30:33 thank you Elle for saying that it’s cool for new folks to come in but they do rehash and say incorrect points. Been watching the WNBA for a long time and the new folks coming in and being ahistorical and also ignoring the other storylines in the W is frustrating. “This is not specific to Caitlin Clark-you’re just new in this space. So while you’re new…get the lay of the land before you try to fan flames” THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU ELLE
@chicotata as Elle said, if it wasn't for those stories the WNBA wouldn't be where it's at now. Some of us has been here since Cynthia Cooper and Sheryl Swoopes
@@sheba19The truth is that nobody cared because the WNBA didn’t have a majority of women who looked like Angel or Brink. You can say anything you want to say and we can argue if it’s right or wrong but once men start finding the women in the WNBA attractive, that’s when they’ll watch.
@TA-ht4jo it kills me on the internet how people conflate opinions and facts. I was just responding to his "we" statement. Most people do not watch sports based on what men look like. how infantile to base watching a sport on what men think of women's looks. A woman's value is not determined by what men think of them or their looks
@@sheba19 First off, there are plenty of women and I mean plenty of women who watch the NFL and the NBA because they love the way the men look in their tights and shorts. Let's cut the bs. We all know these women can play but we don't want to see a bunch of masculine women running around on the court. They have to be attractive and this cuts across all sports: track and field, volleyball, soccer, etc. You can deny it all you want but the facts are the facts.
I think Elle is right about this. They shouldn't have to bend the knee to Caitlin Clark. They are competitive and they will want to beat the Fever down every time they see them.
@@Cwe-35 Jealousy just has the wrong connotation though. It's competitiveness. It's not that different than when a star gets drafted #1 in the NBA or NFL or any other sport. All the other current stars in the league want to give them that "welcome to the league" moment. Also I don't think she's the richest either even with her advertising deals.
@@Cwe-35 everyone isn't bringing up race and sexuality that play against her. Players are going to test her she's a rookie. the fact that she's the most popular rookie to ever come in means they're going to test her that much more. She's fine. Its you unreasonable fans who are all about to have a stroke. oh, make no mistake...I hate you fans. I love Caitlin. She' balling under a ton of pressure and on a team that isn't very good.
Elle, Caitlin doesnt always step up when the lights are bright, she lost two national championships. maybe she just is coming along at the right time, but Swoops and many others deserved this and never got it. it seems like she just getting it cause shes the white one that is good. i am bias tho i feel like angel reese was the star of the draft
This should be fun. Elle spoke Truth to Power on who’s actually too critical of their players (and it wasn’t the other players) on her show. Really it’s just another season for most of their players, the new media and fans are the only ones throwing gas’s on the fire.
Love the fact that the beautiful Elle Duncan, is defending WNBA players against Caitlin Clark's delusional Fan Base.. and Charles Barkley's very stupid comments..
Thank you for talking about Cam and Alyssa. There are other great players in the W and they deserve coverage. There are also more entertaining storylines, besides Clark. The Vets are the ones who are dominating but you wouldn't know it because mainstream media refuses to cover it.
Yes she just wants to play BUT you can't tell me that players aren't targeting her. It's up to the officials and the owners to control these excessive and dangerous fouls. We are talking about serious professional ending injuries. That collaring put on the floor foul against Angel was brutal and unnecessary.
They are supposed to target rookies, especially if they are highly touted. That's what established vets do. That's part of any sport. The vets want to see if the hype is for real. Nothing new. I got targeted as a high school freshman on the varsity basketball team. Upperclassmen would lick their chops when I guarded them in practice, Give me the business. Same thing happened as a college freshman on the football team. I had to earn their respect. It comes with time and maturity. Now, I do agree with you about the excessive and dangerous fouls, but the rookies being targeted is to be expected.
Its not so much the ENBA players hating CC, its the fans. Who arent even really fans, just people who have an opinion on everything. They voice their opinions as fact and you cant telk them they're wrong. The discourse around her skin color has actually made me sick. And please stop saying its men. Ive seen way more women in threads and comments everywhere on social media hating CC and think its about her skin color.
I kinda wish they would've aired this before the game, since it appears it was recorded today. When this airs tomorrow we're going to want Bo and Elle's thoughts on game 4, not what he and elle think will happen in game 4
@@ChuckAngelHawk i literally just said "I kinda wish". Like the most lukewarm shit ever it wasn't even that serious🤣 I did not mean to speak for anybody else, and I apologize for that. Imagine getting all worked up about a random comment and then telling that person to grow up. Its just incredible. I hope you have the day you deserve lil bro
In Caitlin Clark's last game, her stats were 30 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals, 3 blocks. In the history of the WNBA only 3 other players have ever done that. Also, Clark has reached 100 points and 50 assists faster than any other player in WNBA history.
@@play030it is a A TEAM GAME you win as a TEAM and lose as a TEAM **AND** what CCs individual stats shows is that she is doing her part on that team and BALLING THE FUCK OUT as a rookie and that's even while getting face guarded at 96 ft or double n triple teamed but yet media and jealous players old and new wanna downplay her accomplishments bc she gets more attention then they did or ever will so they hate on her and say she's struggling whens SHES not but her team Is and they can't even anticipate and catch her beautiful DIME PASSES and putting on her as TOs when theyre technically not but y'all can keep being mad and jealous that a 22year WHITE girl is the face of all of WBB now and for the last few years AS SHE SHOULD BE bc she's broken every college record known to man, mens or women's, and is inspiring ALL KINDS OF AGES, RACES AND GENDERS to watch her and wbb and instead of everyone who plays college pro or any level being happy shes brought this attention to the game and league and in turn to other wnba players, y'all got to be jealous and whiny and hating that it won't a black or brown player getting this attention before BUT THEY WOULD HAVE GOT THIS SAME ATTENTION IF THEYIR GAME HAD THE UNUSUAL AND EXCITING STYLE OF PLAY WITH DRAINING LOGO 3S LIKE NOTHING AND KILLER ON A DIME PASSING THEN WE WOULD HAVE BEEN DOING THE SAME OVER A BLACK PLAYER like we alllll did with um Michael Jordan or Steph curry and they are black and im white and a woman.. GENERATIONAL great play is great play REGARDLESS OF RACE but that's all ELLE AND THESE RACE OBSESSED WOKE ACTIVISTS SAD VETS WANA FOCUS ON IS RACE 24/7 and how "black n brown players black and brown players dont get their due and they make up more of the league and they this and boohoo that bullshit gimme a break..... If CC Had been a black female doing all that she's doing the last several years y'all would celebrating her all day everyday with YAS QUEEN SLAY GIRL SLAY and if someone had said oh she's only getting all this hype bc shes black y'all would be mad and calling ppl racists as u should bc race has Nothing to do with how good someone is... And if CC were black y'all would be wanting her on the dollar bill and on mt Rushmore and y'all would be naming your babies after her BUT BC SHES WHITE AND FROM MIDDLE AMERICA AND SEEEMINGLY STRAIGHT THEN YALL GOTTA IMMEDIATELY TEAR HER DOWN AND BC SHE DON'T FIT YOUR WOKE ALPHABET MAFIA DEI AGENDA BULLSHIT THEN YOU RESENT HER AND GO ON MAD RANTS IN TV BC Your BIASED AGAINST HER... REMEMBER HOW YALL SAID IMPLICIT AND Complicit AND ALL THEM BIAS TERMS FROM 2020 ARE BAD AND WHITES NEEDED TO LEARN WELL NOW YALL ARE DOING IT AGAINST A WHITE A WHITE GIRL BUT THATS OKAY BC SOMEHOW ITS OKAY IN 2024 TO BE BIASED N HATEFUL TOWARDS WHITE FOLKS... well it's NOT and u need to check your racism cause u look stupid n hypocritical n it's gonna ruin all this newfound attention on the wnba which was almost dead and had to be propped up by the NBA MENS money that y'all hate so bad.... Y'all wanted ppl to watch women's basketball n sports and now that almost exclusively Caitlyn has brought that attention and fandom and record setting attendance and sales BUT SHES NOT BLACK SO HATE ON HER N DIMINISH HER ITS RACIST AND ITS BULLSHIT FOR U TO DO IT AND NOT SEE IT AND KEEP DEFENDING IT... I AM NO LONGER A FAN IF URS, THANK U FOR FINALLY SHOWING ME THE RACE OBSESSED RACIST THAT U REALLY ARE!!!! AND UR DELUSIONAL NOT TO SEE N ACKNOWLEDGE THE HATE FROM PLAYERS MEDIA ETC THAT CC IS GETTING AND DOES NOT DESRVE ANY OF IT... ALL SHE DOES IS BE MATURE MIND HER BUSINESS AND BALL THE FUCK OUT AND U PPL ARE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ALL OF HER LEGIMATE ACCOMPLISHMENTS BC OF UR JEALOUS RACIAL HATE N DELUSION
The woman is a super player but needs some other players to step up every time they are on the floor. She has shown that she is an all around player. This team is a mess and needs to be recast, please.
It's interesting to contrast Caitlin's early struggles with Alyssa Thomas's rising stardom. Alyssa is averaging 14 points and 7 assists, with 4 turnovers per game. Caitlin is averaging 19 points, and 6 assists with 5 turnovers per game. Caitlin is already close to MVP numbers apparently. But the Sun is a really good team, the Fever are a mess.
@justinclark4235 The difference is Alyssa Thomas plays great DEFENSE and Caitlyn Clark does not play any defense. Clark averaging 19 points and every guard she plays against is taking her to school. So that's where they differ.
@@petjunction411 That was last night, what about the other 7 games? Go back and check the tapes, her defense is horrible. Thomas plays hard nose defense every game.
The problem is, let’s use Aja Wilson as an example. She’s great, true. People don’t care to watch her score 30 making lay ups and 5 foot shots. People get excited and watch for full court length passes and 30+ 3s and the potential of seeing something spectacular.
Yes 👏🏽 Elle !!! As a fan of Caitlin she just wants to play ball! Yes the fans and others are adding fuel to the fire. CC is tough!! She is fine!! Elle was spot on!!!
never have words been spoken more true: around 41:36 kindve paraphrasing #ElleDuncan .. It's not that ppl over-estimated CC's talent, but that they underestimated everyone else's talent (in the W) .. that is a major point that is being looked over, and intentionally it seems by some out here. so much in these conversations today. 🫡 Right Time
If Caitlin coming into the league was hush, hush by the veterans, then nobody would be saying anything about the vets in a negative way. But, everybody has to be honest, even Elle, that it was the vets that started the fight. Now, they realize that they are in over their head, now it's "I'm Black, I'm Brown and that's why they don't choose me." See below a comment that I pasted on another video about Aja Wilson coming at Caitlin, wrongly. "Aja Wilson better be cool! She is now on Team Nike. She joins the ranks of Michael Jordan, LeBron James, and (drum roll) Caitlin Clark. Nike is putting millions of dollars out there to advertise and promote its products. Nike's owners, the shareholders, expect profits from its investments. All Nike-related athletes, whether in basketball, football, soccer, tennis, golf, etc., are to promote Nike's bottom line. All Nike-related players are NIke multimillon dollar investments. Imagine how the Nike shareholders will feel about Aja Wilson if Aja continues to tarnish one of their newest investments (Caitlin Clark) - a multiMillion dollar investment to predominantly sell shoe products to not only national but to international girls around the globe. That's a vast market left untapped even by the likes of Michael Jordan and LeBron James. How long will the shareholders allow Aja to keep her less anticipated profit generating Nike shoe deal? My guess is that it will not be for long, that being, not likely to renew Aja's shoe deal when the contract is up. And, seeing that kind of behavior when with Nike - a lack of loyalty to the brand, what other brands are likely to pick her up in the future? Nobody is teaching our people (Black people) how money works in the entertainment business. You make money for YOU until YOU no longer make money for THEM, whereby "THEM" means whoever controls the purse strings. Athletes are the least informed about the entertainment BUSINESS. Many think that just because he or she has performed well, even better than another in the field, that he or she is deserving of the GREATEST money rewards. What he or she doesn't understand is that YOU don't get to decide what the PEOPLE WANT regardless of how good YOU or your COHORTS think that YOU are compared to ANOTHER in the field. Caitlin PRESENTLY deserves more attention, more accolades, THUS more MONEY than any other WNBA player BECAUSE CAITLIN IS WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT TO SEE, CAITLIN IS WHAT THEY WANT. PERIOD!!!! Unless YOU are buying up all or a substantial amount of the tickets and all or a substantial amount of the merchandise, NOBODY should give a d*mn about what YOU think your performance entitles YOU to. When there is someone else at the time who contributes MORE to those sells, REGARDLESS OF THE REASON, than YOU do, YOUR opinion really only matters to YOU. True story, back a few decades ago my youngest brother and I were attending a "Black Expo" event in a major USA city. Although older, but obvously not wiser, I commented to my youngest brother that it made no sense to me that the majority of the Black patrons present were buying their Tee shirts from the Asian kiosk rather than from one of the Black-owned kiosks. My youngest brother turned to me and said, "They Got What They Want." I almost got mad at him until it dawned on me that, d*mn, he was the one making sense, not me. The take home message is that in business, it doesn't matter that YOU think YOU deserve more, it matters most which of you GOT WHAT "THEY" WANT. At this moment in time it is CAITLIN CLARK who's GOT WHAT THEY WANT!"
Absolutely correct. The players in the WNBA many times lose sight of the fact they are entertainment. This is a business with a product to offer. You wanna let your freak flag fly, fine, but you hurt your product. You don't wanna play hard every game, fine, but you hurt your product. You wanna act in a messy way, fine, but you hurt your product. This is NOT college. No Title IX here.
I don’t watch the WNBA, but I do pay attention to Clarks games. No one else. Clark is the reason and only reason for the WNBAs sudden popularity. The, as it’s been seen in the recent days with their comments, the rest of the WNBA is extremely jealous of her.
I'm sure there are some that are jealous but doing this to rookies with hype is NOT new smh they used to slam jordon out of the air on his back Lol it's been part of the game the only reason it's a big issue now it because she is a small white girl and it's nauseating
The WNBA isnt facing abymore criticism that all men sports get. This isnt about racism. This is about one exciting player CC, and a bunch of other women who have been around for years that weren't exciting enough to watch for years
Catling Clarke ain't struggling for a rookie in their first season, and she's already posting unbelievable stats. She is in a weak team that is up when she is on the court and then can't score when she isn't. This girl has had criticism for being white, hetro, and Christian and from many different directions from the wemon on the View to the free thinkers in the WNBA. Why is she so disliked by the others what could it possibly be. Why is it that someone who is only in the league 5 minutes can generate such hate what makes her so different. 🤔
Elle comes off like a man hater. Aja went after CC for being white and all the woke media followed suit and she wonders why CC’s fans come to her defense. And btw, CC’s fans come in all stripes, not just white people. smh
Agree, she's not struggling. Just want to point out it was one person on the View that had issues with her. Whoopi pretty much countered all the points this one person, I think her name is Sunny, made.
@benjaminsmith2287 You are right it was only Sonny from the View, but my point still is why ? Why her? CC isn't the first exciting prospect to turn up, and her ability is clear to see, but she is definitely getting more abuse than any other player. Jealousy will drive most men on to get better, but with some females, it takes a very different form. Some ladies compartmentalise their anger and rage, so it will manifest in different ways from men. They will look for alliances and form cliks for protection. It looks like shit like that is happening, and it's far from professional behaviour. Behaviour that flew by last year won't work anymore as the levels of attention on the league are up ten, maybe twenty fold. So best behaviour time. Sorry, I got carried away here.
It's a Martin episode where his grade school teacher was hitting on him. The reaction Martin gave when he touched her thigh neat is how I feel about Elle!
I saw a stat where The Phoenix team played a game and no one scored 10 points. The WNBA has had a total of 40 games like that. The game play in the WNBA isnt good or exciting. Thank God for Caitlin Clark. Without her there wouldnt be muvh else to watch in this league
@RushBig0786 In my SpongeBob voice, "three days later" Caitlyn Clark against the New York Liberty has a stat line of 3 points 4 rebounds 3 assists and 3 turnovers. I guess you had a great time watching go 1-7 from behind the 3 points line. So how did you like your girl Caitlyn Clark's stat line since you want to criticize other team's stat lines.
@@realtalk423 obviously you missed the point being made. The WNBA had 40 games where NO ONE on the team scored over 10 points. You won't find a post of me saying she's the best player in the WNBA. What I always said is she's the ONLY exciting player and the one player that's drawing all the attention
(38:42) No one is asking Elle to "Give You This" No one is asking anyone to "let her win" Clark will take wins when she can and lose when she can't win. Try a little honesty Elle, Clark has the attention and the others want it. A story as old as time.
@@Blaster216 Clark is a rookie with the resentment of the league on her shoulders, rather like Larry Bird in the 1979-80 NBA season. Clark can only hope to play like Larry Bird.
So, we have two Black Superstar Men Players calling out the WNBA "VETS", not just black and brown players, on their pettiness! Two biggest offenders Taurasi and Stewart are not players of color. If Barkley & LeBron are noticing and it is so bad that they feel like commenting on it THEN there is a problem. Elle may dismiss it BUT come on people aren't blind Elle! The pettiness is obvious! Women should be competitive, but they don't need to be petty and jealous!
@@Mdmeskywlkr007but nobody was beating up on rookies even the chosen ones. I remember seeing Lebron’s rookie season and Wemby’s . Nobody tried to injure them unlike what’s happening to the WNBA
To say that none of the narrative exists is pretty naive there is some of it going on, it’s impossible for it not to in this day and age! Sorry but facts
Xena's warrior princesses. The Las Vegas aces look like a continuation of Xena. Becky looks like an older queen version of the warrior princess whose no longer physically going into the battle. Kelsey plumb has the crazy jokes and smile. But aja Wilson. With the one arm and one leg covered is straight out of a swords and sandles movie. Don't know who Xena's warrior princesses are fighting. But we need that show.
Super articulate lady. As a conservative man, I don’t fully agree with her assessment about the hurdles women in the WNBA face. But she’s reasonable and logical with her arguments. So props. I’d listen to her.
The best thing anyone ever said about Cameron Brink was that "The Cameron Diaz factory decided to make a Kevin Durant."
Bomani we got Foxworth on Fridays we absolutely need a day for Duncan 🙏🏿💯🔥👏🏿
Yesssss! We need Elle Duncan Wednesday
Yes I agree! Elle Wednesday
She has to get a day fam
I agree!!!
Yeah I agree
Mina Mondays
Elle Wednesdays
Foxworthy Fridays.
Let's make this a regular occurrence Bo!
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ESPN might as well have kept him with that lineup lolol
I ain't mad at it! Two baddie milfs that know their shit and can have a potty mouth 😂💯🔥 That's always a win for me!
This the way
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Always a good episode with Bo and Elle.
30:33 thank you Elle for saying that it’s cool for new folks to come in but they do rehash and say incorrect points. Been watching the WNBA for a long time and the new folks coming in and being ahistorical and also ignoring the other storylines in the W is frustrating. “This is not specific to Caitlin Clark-you’re just new in this space. So while you’re new…get the lay of the land before you try to fan flames”
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU ELLE
Nobody cares about those stories. That’s where y’all wrong. If we cared we would’ve been here long ago.
@chicotata as Elle said, if it wasn't for those stories the WNBA wouldn't be where it's at now. Some of us has been here since Cynthia Cooper and Sheryl Swoopes
@@sheba19The truth is that nobody cared because the WNBA didn’t have a majority of women who looked like Angel or Brink. You can say anything you want to say and we can argue if it’s right or wrong but once men start finding the women in the WNBA attractive, that’s when they’ll watch.
@TA-ht4jo it kills me on the internet how people conflate opinions and facts. I was just responding to his "we" statement. Most people do not watch sports based on what men look like. how infantile to base watching a sport on what men think of women's looks. A woman's value is not determined by what men think of them or their looks
@@sheba19 First off, there are plenty of women and I mean plenty of women who watch the NFL and the NBA because they love the way the men look in their tights and shorts. Let's cut the bs.
We all know these women can play but we don't want to see a bunch of masculine women running around on the court. They have to be attractive and this cuts across all sports: track and field, volleyball, soccer, etc. You can deny it all you want but the facts are the facts.
Elle is the best! I couldn’t believe she said The Dalmatians and the Cari conversation was hilarious but so true. 😂
I think Elle is right about this. They shouldn't have to bend the knee to Caitlin Clark. They are competitive and they will want to beat the Fever down every time they see them.
They are jealous of Caitlin getting the most attention and being the richest.
@@Cwe-35 Jealousy just has the wrong connotation though. It's competitiveness. It's not that different than when a star gets drafted #1 in the NBA or NFL or any other sport. All the other current stars in the league want to give them that "welcome to the league" moment.
Also I don't think she's the richest either even with her advertising deals.
@@MrTevens it’s not competitiveness when they are bringing up Race and sexuality.
It’s clearly hatred
@@Cwe-35 everyone isn't bringing up race and sexuality that play against her. Players are going to test her she's a rookie. the fact that she's the most popular rookie to ever come in means they're going to test her that much more. She's fine. Its you unreasonable fans who are all about to have a stroke.
oh, make no mistake...I hate you fans. I love Caitlin. She' balling under a ton of pressure and on a team that isn't very good.
@@Cwe-35if so the jealousy didn’t stop MJ. He wasn’t scoring 3points in a game because his peers were jealous of him!
Elle, Caitlin doesnt always step up when the lights are bright, she lost two national championships. maybe she just is coming along at the right time, but Swoops and many others deserved this and never got it. it seems like she just getting it cause shes the white one that is good. i am bias tho i feel like angel reese was the star of the draft
Elle Duncan is an American treasure
pre-emptive thumbs up b/c homegirl ELLE is always bringing the heat.
Elle needs a monthly guest spot at the minimum
I usually only listen to Bo’s show but ANYTIME Elle is on I gotta pull up TH-cam 😄
Miss Duncan got me clipping my fingernails right now. She’s gold. Great show today
This should be fun. Elle spoke Truth to Power on who’s actually too critical of their players (and it wasn’t the other players) on her show.
Really it’s just another season for most of their players, the new media and fans are the only ones throwing gas’s on the fire.
You guys have really great chemistry.
Humor is seamless.
Lord, Elle Duncan, Elle Duncan, Elle Duncan...that is all.
On God
Eh don’t be out here searching “Elle Duncan thigh meat” 😂😂
Church!!!!
@@takeithrasher9488 Is that a thing?!? I won't search I swear!!!
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The Elle episodes are always my favorite. Pure entertainment.
Thanks, Bo, for having Elle visit to talk W. This was an excellent conversation.
Really enjoyed you 2 guys , thank you!!
Elle gotta be in the regular rotation when the schedule allows. Spencer needs a regular spot too.
I'm thankful any time I can see Elle Duncan. Beautiful lady, and very down to earth. Thanks Bomani Jones!
Love the fact that the beautiful Elle Duncan, is defending WNBA players against Caitlin Clark's delusional Fan Base.. and Charles Barkley's very stupid comments..
Duncan is absolute gold!!! One of the best in the business.
“Before you put your f**king feet on my couch” 😂
53:20 “we are gonna have to fight to get the light skinned attitude out of him”😂I’m laughing in real life over that
Thank you for talking about Cam and Alyssa. There are other great players in the W and they deserve coverage. There are also more entertaining storylines, besides Clark. The Vets are the ones who are dominating but you wouldn't know it because mainstream media refuses to cover it.
A Great Convo with excellently, articulated perspectives presented from both parties
Yes she just wants to play BUT you can't tell me that players aren't targeting her. It's up to the officials and the owners to control these excessive and dangerous fouls. We are talking about serious professional ending injuries. That collaring put on the floor foul against Angel was brutal and unnecessary.
They are supposed to target rookies, especially if they are highly touted. That's what established vets do. That's part of any sport. The vets want to see if the hype is for real. Nothing new. I got targeted as a high school freshman on the varsity basketball team. Upperclassmen would lick their chops when I guarded them in practice, Give me the business. Same thing happened as a college freshman on the football team. I had to earn their respect. It comes with time and maturity. Now, I do agree with you about the excessive and dangerous fouls, but the rookies being targeted is to be expected.
elle absolutely needs to be a regular, she might be the guest with whom he has the best chemistry (either her or foxworth)
Elle fkn Duncan😍😍😍
WONT HE DO IT
I want a pod segment of Elle just telling stories of these "manish" boys trying to holla at her lol 😂
When I tell you I needed this laughed so badly. Thank you. Please make Elle a recurring guest
Whenever Elle is on it's always gonna be good!! Elle has that perfect combination of Atlanta class and Atlanta Sass. ❤
Wnba season has been great so far
Easily one of the 3 most enjoyable podcasts I've seen.
Good show man. Good guest too, she’s smart as hell, and quick
This was so fun to listen to and some great insights on the W. Have her back on more often!
Elle being on the show needs to be a weekly occurance this was great
I love the chemistry! Y'all look good together
Its not so much the ENBA players hating CC, its the fans. Who arent even really fans, just people who have an opinion on everything. They voice their opinions as fact and you cant telk them they're wrong. The discourse around her skin color has actually made me sick. And please stop saying its men. Ive seen way more women in threads and comments everywhere on social media hating CC and think its about her skin color.
This was a great episode towards the end was laughing non stop.
Bo and Elle is always a treat. It is a come together of A'lanna and Atlanta/Gwinnette, and we are all better for it.
Man....Every time she's on the show it's all over the place....and funny as hell!!!
I kinda wish they would've aired this before the game, since it appears it was recorded today. When this airs tomorrow we're going to want Bo and Elle's thoughts on game 4, not what he and elle think will happen in game 4
@@ChuckAngelHawk lol my bad for wanting Bo's fresh takes on the twolves/mavs after watching his reactions on the watchalong last night
@@ChuckAngelHawk i literally just said "I kinda wish". Like the most lukewarm shit ever it wasn't even that serious🤣 I did not mean to speak for anybody else, and I apologize for that. Imagine getting all worked up about a random comment and then telling that person to grow up. Its just incredible. I hope you have the day you deserve lil bro
Shit talking IS a love language! Thank you!
If y’all want some great WNBA takes, since y’all both in Atlanta, y’all should talk to Mel Mitchell! She’s having fun with it and being informative.
In Caitlin Clark's last game, her stats were 30 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals, 3 blocks. In the history of the WNBA only 3 other players have ever done that. Also, Clark has reached 100 points and 50 assists faster than any other player in WNBA history.
Source. And it hasn't translated to wins.
Pretty dam good for someone people is saying is struggling 😂
@@play030Like when Aja and most other big time rookies got started? Team game.
@@play030it is a A TEAM GAME you win as a TEAM and lose as a TEAM **AND** what CCs individual stats shows is that she is doing her part on that team and BALLING THE FUCK OUT as a rookie and that's even while getting face guarded at 96 ft or double n triple teamed but yet media and jealous players old and new wanna downplay her accomplishments bc she gets more attention then they did or ever will so they hate on her and say she's struggling whens SHES not but her team Is and they can't even anticipate and catch her beautiful DIME PASSES and putting on her as TOs when theyre technically not but y'all can keep being mad and jealous that a 22year WHITE girl is the face of all of WBB now and for the last few years AS SHE SHOULD BE bc she's broken every college record known to man, mens or women's, and is inspiring ALL KINDS OF AGES, RACES AND GENDERS to watch her and wbb and instead of everyone who plays college pro or any level being happy shes brought this attention to the game and league and in turn to other wnba players, y'all got to be jealous and whiny and hating that it won't a black or brown player getting this attention before BUT THEY WOULD HAVE GOT THIS SAME ATTENTION IF THEYIR GAME HAD THE UNUSUAL AND EXCITING STYLE OF PLAY WITH DRAINING LOGO 3S LIKE NOTHING AND KILLER ON A DIME PASSING THEN WE WOULD HAVE BEEN DOING THE SAME OVER A BLACK PLAYER like we alllll did with um Michael Jordan or Steph curry and they are black and im white and a woman.. GENERATIONAL great play is great play REGARDLESS OF RACE but that's all ELLE AND THESE RACE OBSESSED WOKE ACTIVISTS SAD VETS WANA FOCUS ON IS RACE 24/7 and how "black n brown players black and brown players dont get their due and they make up more of the league and they this and boohoo that bullshit gimme a break..... If CC Had been a black female doing all that she's doing the last several years y'all would celebrating her all day everyday with YAS QUEEN SLAY GIRL SLAY and if someone had said oh she's only getting all this hype bc shes black y'all would be mad and calling ppl racists as u should bc race has Nothing to do with how good someone is... And if CC were black y'all would be wanting her on the dollar bill and on mt Rushmore and y'all would be naming your babies after her BUT BC SHES WHITE AND FROM MIDDLE AMERICA AND SEEEMINGLY STRAIGHT THEN YALL GOTTA IMMEDIATELY TEAR HER DOWN AND BC SHE DON'T FIT YOUR WOKE ALPHABET MAFIA DEI AGENDA BULLSHIT THEN YOU RESENT HER AND GO ON MAD RANTS IN TV BC Your BIASED AGAINST HER... REMEMBER HOW YALL SAID IMPLICIT AND Complicit AND ALL THEM BIAS TERMS FROM 2020 ARE BAD AND WHITES NEEDED TO LEARN WELL NOW YALL ARE DOING IT AGAINST A WHITE A WHITE GIRL BUT THATS OKAY BC SOMEHOW ITS OKAY IN 2024 TO BE BIASED N HATEFUL TOWARDS WHITE FOLKS... well it's NOT and u need to check your racism cause u look stupid n hypocritical n it's gonna ruin all this newfound attention on the wnba which was almost dead and had to be propped up by the NBA MENS money that y'all hate so bad.... Y'all wanted ppl to watch women's basketball n sports and now that almost exclusively Caitlyn has brought that attention and fandom and record setting attendance and sales BUT SHES NOT BLACK SO HATE ON HER N DIMINISH HER ITS RACIST AND ITS BULLSHIT FOR U TO DO IT AND NOT SEE IT AND KEEP DEFENDING IT... I AM NO LONGER A FAN IF URS, THANK U FOR FINALLY SHOWING ME THE RACE OBSESSED RACIST THAT U REALLY ARE!!!! AND UR DELUSIONAL NOT TO SEE N ACKNOWLEDGE THE HATE FROM PLAYERS MEDIA ETC THAT CC IS GETTING AND DOES NOT DESRVE ANY OF IT... ALL SHE DOES IS BE MATURE MIND HER BUSINESS AND BALL THE FUCK OUT AND U PPL ARE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ALL OF HER LEGIMATE ACCOMPLISHMENTS BC OF UR JEALOUS RACIAL HATE N DELUSION
The woman is a super player but needs some other players to step up every time they are on the floor. She has shown that she is an all around player. This team is a mess and needs to be recast, please.
It's interesting to contrast Caitlin's early struggles with Alyssa Thomas's rising stardom. Alyssa is averaging 14 points and 7 assists, with 4 turnovers per game. Caitlin is averaging 19 points, and 6 assists with 5 turnovers per game. Caitlin is already close to MVP numbers apparently. But the Sun is a really good team, the Fever are a mess.
@justinclark4235 The difference is Alyssa Thomas plays great DEFENSE and Caitlyn Clark does not play any defense. Clark averaging 19 points and every guard she plays against is taking her to school. So that's where they differ.
Sort of like winning is important 🤷🏾♂️ a lot of stats on a bad team are empty to most people.
@@realtalk423 CC had 3 blocks and 3 steals last night, but she doesn't play defense? Ok.
@@petjunction411 That was last night, what about the other 7 games? Go back and check the tapes, her defense is horrible. Thomas plays hard nose defense every game.
@@realtalk423that’s a bit overblown considering who Thomas has on her team and back line. Not saying Thomas is a bad defender but context matters.
Elle Duncan knows about the slow mo leg videos…..which means all the sports girls probably do 😂😂😂😂
The problem is, let’s use Aja Wilson as an example. She’s great, true. People don’t care to watch her score 30 making lay ups and 5 foot shots. People get excited and watch for full court length passes and 30+ 3s and the potential of seeing something spectacular.
Not true. That’s you. And it’s clear you haven’t seen her play because she plays with a ton of emotion and intensity.
Why have the Aces sold-out for seasons straight going on 4? Remember the 3 was BEFORE clark.
Elle would make a good guest host for The Right Time. We’ve already had Dominique and Spencer-I want to see what Elle and Sean would be like.
Thanks Elle for bringing the light-skinned parents struggle. Gotta get these minds right!
THANK YOU ELLE!!!🔥🔥🔥
This show made me excited to check out Cameron Brink!
Yes 👏🏽 Elle !!! As a fan of Caitlin she just wants to play ball! Yes the fans and others are adding fuel to the fire. CC is tough!! She is fine!! Elle was spot on!!!
Great pod! And good takes on the WNBA
Elle and Bo classic fasho. Love when they link up
never have words been spoken more true:
around 41:36 kindve paraphrasing #ElleDuncan .. It's not that ppl over-estimated CC's talent, but that they underestimated everyone else's talent (in the W) ..
that is a major point that is being looked over, and intentionally it seems by some out here. so much in these conversations today.
🫡 Right Time
If Caitlin coming into the league was hush, hush by the veterans, then nobody would be saying anything about the vets in a negative way. But, everybody has to be honest, even Elle, that it was the vets that started the fight. Now, they realize that they are in over their head, now it's "I'm Black, I'm Brown and that's why they don't choose me." See below a comment that I pasted on another video about Aja Wilson coming at Caitlin, wrongly.
"Aja Wilson better be cool! She is now on Team Nike. She joins the ranks of Michael Jordan, LeBron James, and (drum roll) Caitlin Clark. Nike is putting millions of dollars out there to advertise and promote its products. Nike's owners, the shareholders, expect profits from its investments. All Nike-related athletes, whether in basketball, football, soccer, tennis, golf, etc., are to promote Nike's bottom line. All Nike-related players are NIke multimillon dollar investments. Imagine how the Nike shareholders will feel about Aja Wilson if Aja continues to tarnish one of their newest investments (Caitlin Clark) - a multiMillion dollar investment to predominantly sell shoe products to not only national but to international girls around the globe. That's a vast market left untapped even by the likes of Michael Jordan and LeBron James. How long will the shareholders allow Aja to keep her less anticipated profit generating Nike shoe deal? My guess is that it will not be for long, that being, not likely to renew Aja's shoe deal when the contract is up. And, seeing that kind of behavior when with Nike - a lack of loyalty to the brand, what other brands are likely to pick her up in the future?
Nobody is teaching our people (Black people) how money works in the entertainment business. You make money for YOU until YOU no longer make money for THEM, whereby "THEM" means whoever controls the purse strings.
Athletes are the least informed about the entertainment BUSINESS. Many think that just because he or she has performed well, even better than another in the field, that he or she is deserving of the GREATEST money rewards. What he or she doesn't understand is that YOU don't get to decide what the PEOPLE WANT regardless of how good YOU or your COHORTS think that YOU are compared to ANOTHER in the field.
Caitlin PRESENTLY deserves more attention, more accolades, THUS more MONEY than any other WNBA player BECAUSE CAITLIN IS WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT TO SEE, CAITLIN IS WHAT THEY WANT. PERIOD!!!! Unless YOU are buying up all or a substantial amount of the tickets and all or a substantial amount of the merchandise, NOBODY should give a d*mn about what YOU think your performance entitles YOU to. When there is someone else at the time who contributes MORE to those sells, REGARDLESS OF THE REASON, than YOU do, YOUR opinion really only matters to YOU.
True story, back a few decades ago my youngest brother and I were attending a "Black Expo" event in a major USA city. Although older, but obvously not wiser, I commented to my youngest brother that it made no sense to me that the majority of the Black patrons present were buying their Tee shirts from the Asian kiosk rather than from one of the Black-owned kiosks. My youngest brother turned to me and said, "They Got What They Want." I almost got mad at him until it dawned on me that, d*mn, he was the one making sense, not me.
The take home message is that in business, it doesn't matter that YOU think YOU deserve more, it matters most which of you GOT WHAT "THEY" WANT. At this moment in time it is CAITLIN CLARK who's GOT WHAT THEY WANT!"
Absolutely correct. The players in the WNBA many times lose sight of the fact they are entertainment. This is a business with a product to offer. You wanna let your freak flag fly, fine, but you hurt your product. You don't wanna play hard every game, fine, but you hurt your product. You wanna act in a messy way, fine, but you hurt your product.
This is NOT college. No Title IX here.
@@lloydspence7114
Excellent summary!!🎉
Yeah aiite. You just like to read all this cap 🧢 u put out I see
Also the Jeff Teague take was the one going viral where he said people should take it easy on CC.
Jeff is an unserious person
Taurasi was absolutely dismissive " Paige, next question"
That’s more about being a UCONN alumni than hate. This is such a reach lol😊
@@88til_infthank you, as if DT was going to choose the non UCONN girl over UCONN when especially when she's going against UCONN.
@@baller0724 they lose all sense when it comes to her
Colin Cowherd is the one who said they should let her win. It was dumb and condescending.
I don’t watch the WNBA, but I do pay attention to Clarks games. No one else. Clark is the reason and only reason for the WNBAs sudden popularity. The, as it’s been seen in the recent days with their comments, the rest of the WNBA is extremely jealous of her.
I'm sure there are some that are jealous but doing this to rookies with hype is NOT new smh they used to slam jordon out of the air on his back Lol it's been part of the game the only reason it's a big issue now it because she is a small white girl and it's nauseating
When Bo said, "butters," I thought he was talking about Timbs at first. I was about to have questions!
I love both of you!!
the convo at the 12:00min mark = Im weak
elle duncan thigh meat? - nice to know lol
We need Bomani’s skin care routine!
Love Elle Duncan.
If she wanted it, I believe that Elle could be an elite stand-up comedian.
The WNBA isnt facing abymore criticism that all men sports get. This isnt about racism. This is about one exciting player CC, and a bunch of other women who have been around for years that weren't exciting enough to watch for years
These two don't miss when on the pod.
Catling Clarke ain't struggling for a rookie in their first season, and she's already posting unbelievable stats. She is in a weak team that is up when she is on the court and then can't score when she isn't.
This girl has had criticism for being white, hetro, and Christian and from many different directions from the wemon on the View to the free thinkers in the WNBA.
Why is she so disliked by the others what could it possibly be. Why is it that someone who is only in the league 5 minutes can generate such hate what makes her so different. 🤔
Elle comes off like a man hater. Aja went after CC for being white and all the woke media followed suit and she wonders why CC’s fans come to her defense. And btw, CC’s fans come in all stripes, not just white people. smh
Agree, she's not struggling. Just want to point out it was one person on the View that had issues with her. Whoopi pretty much countered all the points this one person, I think her name is Sunny, made.
@benjaminsmith2287
You are right it was only Sonny from the View, but my point still is why ? Why her? CC isn't the first exciting prospect to turn up, and her ability is clear to see, but she is definitely getting more abuse than any other player.
Jealousy will drive most men on to get better, but with some females, it takes a very different form. Some ladies compartmentalise their anger and rage, so it will manifest in different ways from men. They will look for alliances and form cliks for protection. It looks like shit like that is happening, and it's far from professional behaviour. Behaviour that flew by last year won't work anymore as the levels of attention on the league are up ten, maybe twenty fold. So best behaviour time.
Sorry, I got carried away here.
The shorts and the pizza was hilarious. 😂😂😂
No you already know they be having fun behind the scenes @ tnt!
It's a Martin episode where his grade school teacher was hitting on him. The reaction Martin gave when he touched her thigh neat is how I feel about Elle!
Good chemistry as always
So many one-liners from this show…just like a good movie
You two together are ☄️🔥
I am dying laughing
Elle Duncan on the right time is better than SC elle Duncan. 👍🏾
I saw a stat where The Phoenix team played a game and no one scored 10 points. The WNBA has had a total of 40 games like that. The game play in the WNBA isnt good or exciting. Thank God for Caitlin Clark. Without her there wouldnt be muvh else to watch in this league
@RushBig0786 In my SpongeBob voice, "three days later" Caitlyn Clark against the New York Liberty has a stat line of 3 points 4 rebounds 3 assists and 3 turnovers. I guess you had a great time watching go 1-7 from behind the 3 points line. So how did you like your girl Caitlyn Clark's stat line since you want to criticize other team's stat lines.
@@realtalk423 obviously you missed the point being made. The WNBA had 40 games where NO ONE on the team scored over 10 points. You won't find a post of me saying she's the best player in the WNBA. What I always said is she's the ONLY exciting player and the one player that's drawing all the attention
(38:42) No one is asking Elle to "Give You This" No one is asking anyone to "let her win" Clark will take wins when she can and lose when she can't win. Try a little honesty Elle, Clark has the attention and the others want it. A story as old as time.
Clark is cool, but not the greatest thing since sliced bread. Pump the breaks
@@Blaster216 Clark is a rookie with the resentment of the league on her shoulders, rather like Larry Bird in the 1979-80 NBA season. Clark can only hope to play like Larry Bird.
Thee Stallion told y'all in January that Drake be posted up like a bad bitch 😂
I'm curious where people re getting the idea that Clark is "struggling". For a new rook on a bad team, I think she's playing very well.
57:42 My kids love both Homeward Bound movies 😊
I just love Elle Duncan!
So, we have two Black Superstar Men Players calling out the WNBA "VETS", not just black and brown players, on their pettiness! Two biggest offenders Taurasi and Stewart are not players of color. If Barkley & LeBron are noticing and it is so bad that they feel like commenting on it THEN there is a problem. Elle may dismiss it BUT come on people aren't blind Elle! The pettiness is obvious! Women should be competitive, but they don't need to be petty and jealous!
Wnba players are competitors.
Were any NBA vets bowing down to Lebron his rookie yr??
No. Athletes compete. Get over it
@@Mdmeskywlkr007but nobody was beating up on rookies even the chosen ones. I remember seeing Lebron’s rookie season and Wemby’s . Nobody tried to injure them unlike what’s happening to the WNBA
Elle and Bo = instant classic
Bring Elle Back!!
To say that none of the narrative exists is pretty naive there is some of it going on, it’s impossible for it not to in this day and age! Sorry but facts
“No grip” - Elle Duncan 😂😂 love her
I don't understand Elle's point AT ALL. i don't even understand what there is to be angry about. We have eyes.
I love Bo and Elle’s chemistry, you can tell he has a crush on her
Bruh I’m tired of hearing Bomani talk about Drake 🤣 he can’t even hide the disdain and i do not understand people
Is it me or did Elle hit the blunt before doing the episode? Can’t keep her eyes open… LOL
12:20 Let me go make my nail appointment 🤣💀
Xena's warrior princesses.
The Las Vegas aces look like a continuation of Xena. Becky looks like an older queen version of the warrior princess whose no longer physically going into the battle. Kelsey plumb has the crazy jokes and smile. But aja Wilson. With the one arm and one leg covered is straight out of a swords and sandles movie. Don't know who Xena's warrior princesses are fighting. But we need that show.
she pretty..
So...who else went to check out the validity of the "Thigh Meat" specials after Elle dropped the knowledge? Cari is the Champion 😂😂😅
My favorite parts of the podcast are always the off-topic conversation with the guest.
You guys are not going to make me hate the WNBA no matter how hard you try
Super articulate lady. As a conservative man, I don’t fully agree with her assessment about the hurdles women in the WNBA face. But she’s reasonable and logical with her arguments. So props. I’d listen to her.