How to Use Peat Pellet Kits for Seed Starting Cucumbers, Tomatoes & Peppers: No Grow-Lights Needed!
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- This is part of my 2020 seed starting series. I show you how to set up and use compressed peat pellet kits to start cucumbers, tomatoes and peppers. I discuss a no grow-light method and if you use grow-lights, how you can best use them. I also discuss when to start cucumbers, tomatoes and peppers indoors and why.
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Point 1. There is no point at all in using boiling water.. Absolutely no reason that is needed at all.
Point 2: In most countries Peat Pellets are now Coco Coir pellets and no longer contain any peat.
I get ridiculously high germination rates using these. Thanks for sharing, highly recommended!
Thanks for the info. It helps others.
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If you good seeds from the Netherlands 99.9 % generate
This is my first year using them, I got almost 100% germination. I got the 72 pellet tray and the 12. Put them on a heat mat in front of a window that gets sun 10 hours a day. It did great with corn, green beans, peas, a bunch of oregano, and an assortment of flowers. Also did a similar thing with actual peat pots and used sandwich bags to cover them.
I use these all the time and I have great results with all of my tomatoes and my green and red peppers won't use anything else to start my seeds thanks for showing the review hope others will learn just as much as I do
Thanks. That will help others, knowing they work well for you.
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This is the first time I'm starting from pellets. I am glad I revisited this video! Thanks for leaving it up and good luck on your next book. I look forward to it! Thanks for autographing your first book for me :D
Thank you! You get right to it. No bells and whistles! ❤️
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thank you for the great information! I am making 40 small garden boxes with a class, and this is who we will start our seeds perfect video!
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I recieved a pellet kit at a funeral to plant something in the name of the one who was deceased. Thank you so much for this video! It is my first time planting anything.
Glad to help. A nice way to reflect and remember.
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what an amazing tip to label the trays. I have always failed at this task!
So easy to loose track!
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I subscribed as soon as you said you were in MD. Finally someone who has to deal with MD's dysfunctional weather
Its crazy isnt it. My transplants are getting crushed.
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I so appreciate you Realized my lights were too high and just got the pellets. Going to start seeding this way. Thanks so much.
Excellent. Problem solved.
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I like using them peat pellets there really convenient you don't have to worry about disturbing the roots on your plants when planting them In your garden beds
Great point
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Great video Gary. I love using the jiffy pellets.
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Thank you very much, Gary.
Love ya!!! 🥰 You’re Awesome 👏!!
Thank you for your exact info.
Awesome awesome video! Very informative and knowledgable information. Thank you!!
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Thank you ! Answered all of my questions. New to plants
Very glad to help
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Great video just what I was looking for!
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I love the steam!
Cool
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I'm in 🇨🇦, February usually is still cold and freezing, but thanks and happy planting 2020.
Yep, just getting the info out early so people can learn.
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I'm in zone 5ab
Excellent video! Thank you for this info.
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Thanks for the information. This is very helpful!!!
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I needed the instructions for this and fortunately I am from MD too!
Good luck this year.
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I never had good luck with the pellets...now I realize why....never thought to use boiling water to set them up and sterilize them. Gonna have to try them again, using this technique! Thanks for this!!
They need to be watered more too. So keep an eye on it.
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But DONT overwater, they soak up a lot and get soggy and then the seed/seedling will rot. You really have to keep a close eye on these pellets from my experience. God bless!
This helps me so much! I’m a Maryland resident as well
Just follow along.
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Thanks so much
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Thank you for the explanations that you do. 👍👍👍🥰️🌿🌱🌾🌸
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Excellent, very informative.
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This is great Gary! I want to order the larger Peat Pellets. I looked at your links, but I wasn't sure which ones were large. Thank you for all of this great info.
Good luck. The larger are much more useful.
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@Jeanne - The 50mm Peat Pellets are the largest size and are great for the peppers and tomatoes as Gary had mentioned
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I love these. My taproots each grow through the netting without issue, but I also still cut the netting away. I imagine you’re supposed to anyway, it’s only there to hold the peat together before planting.
Nice
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Thank you for the video! First year for me in Ontario Canada with the peat pellets, newbie veggie gardener. Started last year with 2 containers for a few peppers and beans, (bought from nursery), they did well, now I have a raised bed for this year. I had a terrible year last year with fungus gnats which I think I inadvertently brought indoors with my plants. I used Miracle Grow soil and didn't know they're notorious for this. I'd put houseplants outside and re-potted them thinking I was doing a good thing, when I brought them back in for winter! Little did I know! So after researching I found these pellets. The boiling water is a good idea. I probably will try the larger ones next time round. It's only for me, so I don't need many. 👍
Any outdoor bagged stuff most likely has fungus gnat eggs. I always make a sterile mix using boiling water and a starting mix. Good luck!
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN thank you, I just wanted to add that last night I did the boiling water on the small peat pucks by Jiffy, I only did 6 for now. When I added the water the water turned dark immediately from the peat and they almost fell apart! The outside 'netting' isn't plastic or netting as I imagined, it's kinda fragile. Maybe I added too much water, but I fished them out as soon as they inflated and had to scrape up the peat from container after draining water, adding it back into each puck! Learning curve!
Really helped me
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starting seeds outdoors...its last week in April San Diego..50s nights 60s to 70s days.... The advice I got from the garden center was to open the top days, water once a day...then they agreed with me to close the cover nights and cover with a folded over blanket...
the cover fogs over during the day if I don't take it off!!
Yeah it will heat up too much with cover on during day
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I’m in zone 6b, I have all my hot peppers germinating In wet paper towels in baggies and in propagation tray, on top of a heat mat , I moved the seeds that germinated into jiffy peat pellets and have them in another propagation tray on top of a heat mat , they sprouted but haven’t yet sprouted in my peat pellets 😭😭😭😭😭
I am doing 24 types of peppers and have 100 hot pepper plants I think I killed lol. I am HOPING since I started germinating them March 10 and it’s now April 1, that maybe by April 30 they will some plant exposed.
I’ve got about 40 tomato plants which are doing great in peat pellets …
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Before I plant mine I put a piece of masking tape along the side and write with a sharpie what is in the cells but for me, I typically have a full row of the same or at least 2 of the same per row. You can draw a line also if you are splitting the row you get the idea.
Great tip. Thanks
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Sir, please do give us tips on storing seeds too!
Air tight container indoors. Should last years.,
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I can never make these work. I seem to have a hard time making them not get leggy.
Watching this video as one last attempt to figure out how to use these (potentially) amazing kits!
Lots of let. Good luck.
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Great tips. On my 9th day with a jiffy kit, I don’t use grow lights, and I am hoping to see some seedlings soon. This is my first time growing so this is my baseline attempt. Sounds like I will be grabbing some grow lights here soon lol. We shall see
If it is 40 or more out give the seedlings some sun as they breakout.
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@Gary Pilarchik so you would recommend putting a young seedling in the sun? Just wondering, as this is my 2nd year gardening and last year (my first year) I was told not to do that and to always keep seedlings in the windowsill because they are too fragile for outdoors quite yet. I live in north Texas zone 8A. We are having sunny 50’s-60’s in the afternoon here. I will be starting my seeds this week indoors. I do have a grow light but it’s nothing fancy and I think I will just move them in and out in their dome.
using the same brand
started seeing growth on day 4!...for some
The small pellets work great for hydro starts,just peel off the net.
I was just told by lady in the shop for (maybe it was just for peppers) that warm soil is more important for germination than light and that close intense light is perfect once it germinates. CONFIRM DENY? Thanks! Just planting pepper seeds today. Watch dozens of your videos!
Well light is always important as without it they plants get leggy. Plants should germinate into light with 24 hours. But warmth is what speeds up germination and that is true. A house at 65 degrees is perfect for germination. Warmer is even better for peppers.
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Hello there! Very educational! Thank you so much for this explanation. Question: when I bring the tray outside during the day, in the sunlight, do they need the plastic lid or not? Thanks again!
Nope lid. The plastic can actually magnify the sun and heat up the plants too much
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Thanks for all your videos, Gary.
My question is: If I "pot up" the pellets do I have to use seed starting soil or can I get away with using regular potting soil? Thanks
You can use potting mix. I only shy away of it indoors cause of gnat risk.
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Hey Gary - what grow lights would you recommend for new seedlings vs. once they're more established? Thanks!
Same lights. I just base mine on kelvin and lumens. When they are established, light get raise some and are on less.
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they sure got filled out fast with the hot water usually takes a bit, cool
Great videos and explanations! I have a question when the seed cells become dry do you water the tops or do you put water in the bottom tray. Thanks again
I fill the tray from the bottom.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN How much do you fill the tray? Basically much much standing water do you keep in the tray at all times??
@mikenkarie good question! I believe you only water them when the soil on the top of the peat pots is dry. If you touch the soil and it sticks to your finger, then it still has moisture in it. I wouldn’t let them sit in water all the time. Once they absorb enough water that the tops of the soil is wet you can empty it if there is still a lot in there, but unless you’re using way too much water, they should just absorb all of it.
Another way to tell if they are dry, is that the soil color will be lighter than when it is wet. And also heavier wet than dry.
I've never started seeds indoors and never used the peat pods, so this video was very informative. Will you tell me how to water these trays please? From the top or in the tray to be absorbed from the bottom up? Also, approximately how wet to keep them and approximately how often will they need water? Thanks again for a very helpful video!
The tops get light brown and thats when you water.
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ha ! the same question i was looking for!
@@THERUSTEDGARDEN Hi and thanks for the video! Can you also tell me if I should pour water on the tray so it gets absorbed from the bottom of the pods OR if I should spray water from the top instead? 🪴
Gary, when will you be starting your peppers inside? I'm in zone 6a so I believe we're pretty close there as far as starting seeds
Technically first week of Feb. I like 10-12 weeks of growth.
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Have you ever considered soil blocks? I know Daniel from Arms Family Homestead seems to have success with those. You can use your own seed starting blend and you don’t have to deal with the netting.
I love soil blocks!
Not yet. Hope too when I get a greenhouse.
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Hi Gary. I have followed your instructions. My light looks similar to yours (mine has 2 30W cool white fluorescent bulbs) My seedling leaves are light green and the veins in the leaves of some are yellow. Could this light be too hot when 2" above seedlings?
What about using distilled water to eliminate the mold and allergy
And plant heating pads underneath trays
And lastly what to add to water to feed
I start my cucumbers and squash in the small pellets every year. I put 2 seeds in each small pellet. You’ll have to up-pot within 2 weeks into a larger container. I start my seeds in front of my patio window, so that’s why I use these pellets. Trays take up a lot more space, and I find the small pellets to be very efficient in starting as many plants as possibly in a very small space compared to trays.
Yep based on your space. The pot up is key. Thanks.
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I have had low.germination because im using old.seeds up..and recycling these..or.trying to..my johny jump ups seem to be able to store really.well so ive been transferring tiny seed starts into them
Some seeds can last years
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I transfer my green house from inside to outside to get light. My little guts have sprouted amazing in only one week
Nice!
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Could not find the large pellets at Wal Mart so I started my tomatoes, peppers and herbs in the small containers. They are growing but I guess I will have to move them to cups in time. Di I make a mistake not using the large pellets.
No the little ones work. Just keep them moist. good luck.
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Hi, thanks for sharing. Do you have to sit the swollen pellets in water constantly, or do you not have to add water till they have poked their first leaves through? Thanks in advance ...
I don't let them sit in water. I water when the tops get light brown
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Leaves have appeared, and there is white mold on it. Do I just transplant it into soil or does the mold harm seedlings?
Can I leave them outside 24/7 as long as the temps are in the 40’s at night ? I’ve left them in direct sun and outside at night since Saturday. Only their 3rd night tonight. I’ll bring them inside if I need to . Thank you for this video! It’s been hard to find any discussion about using these outside. 😊
I have this same question & can’t find any answers - did it work?
It's day 4 now since I've done this, the cucumbers were already 2 to 3 inches, tomatoes barely popped out lastnight, still waiting for the bells and jalapeno.... I'm new to this too so hope all goes well
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Thank you. I have had green and white mold before and I was very concerned. I was wondering about the netting. In the future, I will remove the netting before transplanting or potting up.
That works.
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Hi! I’m a beginner and used these to grow some sprouts, and I’m experiencing a bit of the white and green moss too... did yours grow regardless? I’m worried that they’ll die and that I should restart
@@emmafortin9033 Hello, yes, most of my seeds germinated and did well. What I didn't do is plant more than one seed per pellet, lesson learned.
Can I double my small jiffy pallets for peppers to make bigger?
First time grower here, my squash have been in peet pots for about a week and a half. These babies are at 3 inches already and roots are coming out of netting like crazy! Gary, should I upgrade them to a small cups? Or leave as is? Please help thank you!!
Yep pot them in a bigger cup. Nice work
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Am I doing ok boiling my rainwater instead of tap?
Hi Gary,
I'm growing peppers using the same brand of kit, living in zone 10 and starting indoors. I'm trying to fight a sort of white mold/hairy white fungus on the tops.
I just got a heating mat today and I've started to leave the lid off. I'm just under one week elapsed. Any advice? Thanks!
EDIT: Also have begun using an LED grow lamp today as well. Previously I had indirect sunlight.
Lamps are key. Let the tops of them dry as much as you can between watering. And if you just started.... on a day over freezing light some direct sun outdoors cleanse the tops. 30 minutes of sun help manage fungus but only if it is early at germination.
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2 questions Gary... (1) why don't you recommend using a humidity dome under grow lights? (2) Are your grow lights really low power? Surely putting the lights that close runs the real risk of leaf curl and damaging the seedlings from the get-go? Thanks
Should we water the plants ?
Can anyone tell me if a 36 " t5 which is 39 watts and 6400k (whatever that is) is no good or good enough or perfect for germination and beginning just like what is in this video. To Garry the maker of this video thank you so much for all your video's you do. They are helping me tons as I have never did this sort of thing. Now in my retirement I had to get doing something, last year I purchased mostly store bought plants and it cost me a fortune. Sooooooo here I am having fun with hundreds of seeds I've bought. Happy growing to everyone this year and God bless.
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Cool. Going to start cucumbers soon. Can I wait 3 weeks to pot them, and put 3 plants per pot if it's a good size ?
It has to be really big. When large they will suck the water out fast and if they dry out the plant is damaged.
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Can I put theses pods in my hydroponic lettuce grow
Looks like you didn’t use the lid. Ok to remove my lid? I’ve had it on for 6 days.
What does thin to the strongest plant mean?
What does it mean when you say thin them to a single plant? I’m new to this! Also, do you have any tips for the white webs that I seem to get daily over some of my pods? Is that fungus?
Some ppl sow more than one seed in a cell/pod. When someone does this, they are just increasing the chance of something germinating. If they all germinate in that cell, that's great but chances are they're going to compete for root space/nutrients. So after germinating, you would need to thin or get rid of the other germinated seedlings that look weak or not as nice. It hurts to get thin, but it's in your plant's best interest 😭
Did you use any liquid fertilizer..?
When is the next time you add water to the large compresed?
A week later?
When you transplant to a pod?
Nope it varies. When the turn light brown on top.
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hey gary how often do you water the seed pod trays ? is to much water a no go ? great videos been watching for years off and on , thanks👍👍👍
As the plants get bigger it will change but you want the tops to lightly dry brown and then water.. Almost daily once plants get large
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So if my house is around 78 degrees should I keep the lid off and my seed heat mat off as well?
Yep
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I just planted seeds in my pellets but the directions said to keep the tray out of direct sunlight? I’m confused,does that mean until they start to sprout up from the pellets then they can get direct sunlight from a window or outside? Thanks
I dont know what it would say that to be honest. Once planted they need direct light or sun or they grow very poorly.
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I have a question to anyone who can answer I bought the jiffy one for my herbs such as chamomile rosemary lemon balm and peppermint. The directions say away from sunlight until germination but here it’s directly under light immediately after putting in your seeds. I’m so confused which one is correct ? I have them in little light with dome. I just planted about an hour ago and it’s my first time. Thanks !!
IMO disregard the directions. That is because if you have them away from light, and miss getting them under the light, they get leggy. They are looking for light. So I error on having the light present. No harm.
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Should the pods continually have water around the bottom of them? Should they remain soaked or can you even have too much water?
Yes you can have too much water. They need to dry a bit between watering and water should not sit in bottom 24/7.
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Do I pot tomato seedlings up with the larger peat pellets or just wait to transplant them?
Depends on the timing and the weather outside. You might have to but can just drop them as is into a container and fill around the pellet.
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Gary, good morning. I've got these large peat pods growing beautifully. Tomatoes/peppers mainly. There are two plants in each pod. One in each corner. I'd like to split these large pods into two plants , and keep each. Are there any special considerations when doing this? I figure I will gently remove the netting and genyly roll the dirt out to separate the root systems. Can you offer advice or maybe do a 2 min video? Thanks brother. Big fan of your channel. Also in Md. Have a great day.
Thanks. I am not growing in them but you idea works. For tomatoes if the are well spaced, you can cut the pod down the middle. Good luck. And thanks for watching
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Just 3 days after germination my leaves are touching the plastic top. Should I take it out and add water if the soil gets dry?
I would remove the plastic. I never use it. I keep an eye on moisture and add water regularly.
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how much water do you add to the tray after putting your seeds in the pods? Do you water regularly, or about how often?
That varies greatly based on the size of the plants. You have to water regularly so the pod stays a dark brown.
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If I'm using a pot outdoors for Cucumbers instead of the ground, can I use the same timeline (3-4 weeks before going outdoors) ?
Generally yes.
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*I have a question* I started my fiffy container with cucumbers ,tomatoes ,watermelon and cilantro. My cucumbers have sprouted reaching to the top of the lid but the others are behind tomatoes are at half that length. Now since the cucumber sprouts are reaching to the top should I remove them from the humidity dome and just place them next to the container? 👋🏽Fellow friend from Maryland . 💚
It was too early for cucumbers. They grow really fast and I am going to start mine beginning of April.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN *An update* everything has magically sprouted overnight watermelons are about 3 inches difference in length from tomatoes. Now I know you said it’s too early for cucumbers will I be able to continue to grow them indoor until mid April ?
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How does one water these after the seeds sprout, I’m having trouble 😅. Seems like it’s not as easy as a conventional seed cells I’ve had luck with in the past
You have to go slower cause there is not a lot of space.
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Would the peat pellets work for ornamental grasses? Have you tried? Thanks.
I havent tried but it should work fine.
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ok, so i broke my schedule yesterday, and started my peppers. is it too early? what if i top off?
You can top them off. Also if they are hot peppers, they might take longer to germinate and seem to grow more slowly.
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Gary, when not using the lid do you need to occasionally add water? Thanks
I never use the lid as it breeds mold. But you have to water regularly yes.
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What veggies do you recommend growing in the smaller pellets?
Just not the big seeds. Herbs do well.
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What size are the larger ones in this video, 42mm?
Yep.
Hey Gary, been awhile, can I do this with grow lamps, a heating pad and the lid to germinate or do you suggest I remove the lid? I've found the specialized heating pad speeds germination. 'd remove the lid once germinated of course. Would there be any benefit to moving them outside in the day when I already use quality grow lamps? Thanks much
I never use the lid. Too much humidity and mold and fungus growth. If you remove it that is fine but I never found it did much.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN Hey Gary, nobody ever talks about this, After your pods get going, do you move them into larger pots, say the 1 gallon size? Too soon to put them in the earth, too big for the tray. Thank you my friend
how much sunlight or electric light do you use per day? do you use a heating mat?
I dont know what the cost is but the LED lights are like really really cheap.
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