★★★ *FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VIDEO / FACT UPDATES* ★★★ *1) People are saying they have seen shorter landings and even linking videos to these landings* - To be considered a world record, it needs to be done under the rules and observation of an official that can judge it, such as these planes on the day of this competition. Just because you landed a plane on a runway in a shorter distance once when no one was paying attention, it does not count. *2) The planes landed in like just a few feet, not 9 feet, how are they measuring these landings?* - Here are some STOL competition rules I found. *MEASURING TAKEOFFS* - Take-off distance will be measured to where the furthest main wheel leaves the ground for the last time. *MEASURING LANDINGS* - Landing distance will be measured from the reference line to the main gear. Here is the Valdez Fly-In and Air Show STOL Rules PDF Link - www.valdezflyin.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/2018-Valdez-Fly-In-Rules.pdf
@@joblessalex then you do not get the point of a competition or competition rules, you can't simply go film a landing somewhere with perfect headwinds for a 0 foot landing when no one else got to do it.
Either you have to count any run with natural wind, or none of the runs with natural wind. You can't just say only the wind of a specific area is valid for a world record, it's a WORLD record. These guys just set a local record.
@@accursedcursive4935 The issue with world records is precisely this. Unless every world record attempt is held at exactly the same conditions, you cannot compare those attempts to one another. In this case, they 'validate' the world record by ensuring that each pilot has always faced the same conditions. Other pilots may have landed in shorter distances, but they may end doing far worse in Valdez.
When I was a pilot learning in Chicago, one day we did slow flight in heavy wind conditions. My instructor said "look outside." The headwind was so strong that that my Cessna was going backwards relative to the ground. I'll never forget that
@@redphantom451 There has to have a name for this phenomenon. We've all seen sea gulls fly into the wind and stay virtually stationary, but to see it happen to an aircraft would be interesting.
Same with me. My CFI flew at -11kts, I got it to -2. Any of these STOL birds could land or takeoff going backwards with any significant wind at all. My first trainer Vr was 44kts, and I've flown when it was blowing close to that on the ground
They're doing 'stoppies' like we're used to seeing on motorbikes. So cool to watch. Also, I'm fascinated by the amount of lift created in such short distances.
The wind speeds must’ve help definitely. The area of the wings (underneath) is pretty big, and the plane is light too! Maybe the lift wasn’t THAT much, but the weight of the plane, and the speeds of the wind, did help. One lowers the lift necessary, the other helps generate it!
I know you’re kidding, but my father told me that like 20 years ago (in Portugal) you could grab your ultralight and land it wherever you felt like landing, like at the beach or a backyard.
Vörös Gellért my grandfather used too fly too high school in his father’s Piper J3 Cub. This was back in the 1950’s His father was a crop duster and they lived in a small town. There was a farm field above my grandfather’s school, so he’d land the plane up there. There is photographic evidence of it.
A plane like that would be a good thing if you worked at an airport as all you gotta do is fly it to the airport and fly a nice easy approach and when it’s time to go home in the evening, it’s showtime.
The Americans insist that the inventors of the Airplane were the Wright Brothers, but no Judge specializing in aeronautics witnessed this. Alberto Santos Dumont flew in Paris in front of an audience of thousands of people and dozens of judges specialized in aeronautics. Alberto Santos Dumont is the Inventor of the Airplane
Not possible. Landing length is the length of the plane + any length needed to come to a stop. If it went backwards it would be say 10ft plane + 2 feet rolling = 12 feet landing space required.
I personally watched a Piper take off at Port Elizabeth airport, South Africa, where the plane climbed into a headwind and ended up around 50 metres backwards from the takeoff point at a height of around 100m. Strong winds at sea level.
I remember when I was learning to fly, my instructor decided to show me how wind can seriously affect the aircrafts performance. He pointed us into the wind, dropped all flaps, and then called the tower.. Cessna India Lima Lima, Requesting ground speed check please. There was a slight pause on the radio, then the tower calls back, India Lima Lima, you seem to have turned into a helicopter, we are showing negative 3 knots across the ground.
There can’t be a “Cessna India Lima” in the United States. You can’t have an O or an I in the tail number. They look too much like a zero and a one. It’s in the FARs.
@@hellonwheels9149 Guess what, we do have Cessna's in Australia... I know, I know, shock horror that somewhere other than the USA has Private Aircraft...
@@hellonwheels9149 Simple, in pretty much any other country i can think of besides the US the tail number only consists of letters and not numbers. The way we abbreviate callsigns here is by using the first letter (1 or 2 letters for the nation of registration) and the 2 last letters of the callsign. Therefore India Lima Lima are most likely the last 3 letters of his callsign.
Great video! For those curious about the vehicle featured at 2:17, it's the Wigetworks Airfish 8, a ground-effect vehicle (GEV) that utilizes ground effect over water to operate at extremely low altitudes. The craft takes off and lands like a seaplane, but typically never climbs higher than the upper extent of ground effect (many are unable to, but certain classifications of GEV are able and permitted to climb higher for limited periods of time.) Since they fly so low, they operate according to maritime rules and regulations, but they're a much quicker and smoother journey than one on a ship, not experiencing drag from the water or the rocking of waves. The drawback is that, like seaplanes, rough waters make for uncomfortable (and even dangerous) take offs and landings, and if the seas are too rough they can't operate safely at all.
@0:52 respect for that Cessna pilot, he almost do the same with that "heavy" metal-made aircraft like the others with those probably much lighter composite ultralights.
It really isn't -- at least not in the way we tend to think of precision in things like landing on a carrier or complex aerobatics. The aircraft really does most of the work here. Mind you, this stuff is extremely impressive, but it's more about setting up the aircraft in such a way that these extreme STOL maneuvers are possible. Big wings, vortex generators, good power, and as absolutely lightweight as possible. Once these things are properly set up, piloting them is actually incredibly easy. But getting them dialed in this way takes a ton of skill and dedication. I've been flying small planes for about 20 years now and I've done a few hours in a STOL configured aircraft, and it's just about the most fun I've ever had in a plane.
I'd really really want one of these, so that I can land on top of my workplace (a mall with gigantic rooftop parking). Took me 40 minutes just to drive to this place every morning.
During my time in the German Airforce we had the DO 27 STOL liaison plane. We were told that the DO 27 could land at about 50 km/h and if the head wind is strong enough could start nearly like an elevator.
@@WanganTunedKeiCar i hated that mission. everyone in my family tried it and we all failed XD "and here comes Larry!!" granted, we didnt play very often 😅
@@leow2672 I hated it as well, no I _loathed_ it. Every time, something went wrong. First time, fail to locate the bloody bus; second, come from the wrong direction; third, come from the wrong direction, this time perpendicular to the bus; fourth through seventy-eighth, crash into the bus; then, land it...only for the game to crash because I clipped the tail gear into the platform.
The Americans insist that the inventors of the Airplane were the Wright Brothers, but no Judge specializing in aeronautics witnessed this. Alberto Santos Dumont flew in Paris in front of an audience of thousands of people and dozens of judges specialized in aeronautics. Alberto Santos Dumont is the Inventor of the Airplane
Actually, probably not very many. Pops are driven by the crankshaft, and with no clutch that means that any prop strike requires that you completely take apart the engine and check for damage. Prop strikes very often result in engine replacement, and that's only if the plane strikes the prop and then rocks back without causing any other damage. These guys really don't want to risk that.
what are you on ,you need wind one way or the other to fly or to take off and land you stuck up idiot without an aeroplane,i thought they were cool,much better than your stupid comment,atb from scotland lardass
I live in Alaska and these STOL are common -- and exciting to experience when being flown in and dropped off in wilderness for fishing and hunting expeditions.
Actually, these little ultralights are way more dangerous. Ever tried to land one in choppy air? You get bounced around pretty good. One second you're straight and level and the next, you're over on a wingtip. A heavier aircraft is safer for the same reason a larger sailboat handles better in rough seas. You don't want to be playing among the white caps in a 12' dingy...
Ronald Brown you’re ignoring wind speed in your stall speed calculations. The planes might not look like they are moving, but the air is moving around the plane. Same difference really.
That was me for 4 years until MS Flight sim came out. Also if you're not fortunate enough to have a pc, I'd reccomend X-Plane 10. It has a very limited map selection, but it has the best graphics of any mobile flight sim out there, and it is basically a scaled down pc title from 10 years ago so it has decent physics, a good selection of planes, and fully interactive cockpits in all of them.
A lot of commenters here, fail to appreciate how special and innovative these aircraft are and the level of skill involved. Air speed being variable, these specialized machines could still amaze you in still air, relative to production aircraft. My little sister left the ground in a tornado. No skill involved. Mr. Reynolds on the other hand, built his own airplane and designed many features himself. Quite a guy. I hope that he has many offspring to carry on his spirit and keep life for the rest of us, fun. I hope to meet him.
Absolutely incredible, I wouldn't have believed that was possible 👍👍. The take offs in particular are jaw dropping, but I guess the headwind really helps.
I have been to Valdez and I can honestly say...it is such an amazing place. Genuinely one of the most breathtaking places I've ever been. Imagine an Alaskan version of Mayberry and the bald eagles fly around like nothing. Also fish literally jumping from the water. Crystal clear blue water. Nice people. Genuine Alaska.
Vision_Slayer_525 yes but it’s vector is in the opposite direction compared to a regular landing
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@@shootmkillerxd8101 Yea, but they will still count from when the first wheel touches the ground to where the other wheels stop, so doesn't matter how you stop
Vision_Slayer_525 I didn’t say anything about distance in my comment, just saying it can land going backwards that’s all.
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@@shootmkillerxd8101 Oh sorry, a lot of people are saying the the record can be beaten by a plane going backwards because the distance will be negative, I thought you were saying the same, my bad
Wonderful! BTW, imagine being there to see when the famous Ernst Udet took a Storch up and down on the spot in a strong headwind! He'd have loved this!
well, i heard a story about a guy somewhere in the middle east that strapped a hydra rocket pod to his PZL 104 Wilga and used a rifle scope to aim them....
Almost had that feeling yesterday. And I’m just learning to fly as well. Had a 15MPH headwind at Savannah airport. I was in a 150L. Put in 20 degrees of flaps and you can really slow down and take your landing step by step. Good way to learn. I was doing touch n go’s and reached 500’ on the go before I made it to the end of the runway. Fully loaded. With me and the instructor and fill tanks there’s only 25# to spare.
@@んや-s7z I teach my kids that excellence comes only from dedicated hard work (orientation is very helpful in this). As a parent, part of my job is to help them aspire to worthy pursuits and have the application over time to develop expertise in them that will lead them to being happy, satisfied and productive human beings.
Yup, cold air is thick. you don't need thermals if the air is the right density. If the wind is strong enough, you can hover in one spot. I had already decided to fly my RC piper cub today, but the battery is low, so i came here to kill time while it charges.
I was flying many years ago, from Palm Springs Ca to San Bernardino in a Cessna 150. Flying into a stiff headwind at full throttle, and following Interstate 10, I looked down and trucks in the interstate were passing me. Made for a long trip to San Berdoo.
Well the record holder pilot indeed deservers a salute and a lot of appreciation BUT this guy @0:28 deserves a medal too for almost a vertical take off!!
It's measured from the target line. Goal is to land ON the line, anything past that is included in the measurement. You could land in 4' but if you hit the ground 200' past the line, then your official measurement would be 204'. Only the main gear counts, not the tailwheel/nosewheel. The point isn't solely about shortest distance but also precision to hit the mark.
@@samuelmatheson9655 keep in mind, while this competition is fun, it has its roots in back country flying where landing long could kill you and landing short might be a river, lake, boulder, etc... Precision is key.
I'm not a real pilot, I just play one on my PC. The great thing about flight simulator is being able to set the wind speed and direction. And if you also have aircraft designer you can land on the aircraft carrier if you increase the drag effect of the landing gear so it stops you as if you caught the wire. Most people never get the chance to experience this in real life, so thank you for sharing this with us!
There's another video going around now in which a guy landed his plane against a strong headwind in 0' 0" - just touched down with no forward movement at all. Yes I know it doesn't count, but still, it was far more impressive to watch than these. Sorry, I can no longer find the links to that video.
While you're talking about Ground Effect and having the wing closer to the ground, I can't help but notice the high mounted wings. Mount the wing lower for greater Ground Effect. Also, are they allowed to have pre-compressed springs in the landing gear, when triggered to cause the aircraft to bounce vertically straight up (then gun it) ?
Frank Napp paid a visit to Mike Patey recently, and Mike said that anyone expecting Scrappy to outperform Frank's ultra lightweight Piper Cub was going to be disappointed. Will all its 700bhp and carbon fiber construction, Scrappy is going to be far to heavy to compete with Frank's aircraft. Draco did some amazingly short take offs and landings for what was not a small plane, but Frank's Piper Cub is built entirely for STOL, and Scrappy is going to be an all round go and land anywhere plane. In his last video Mike even talked about carrying extra fuel to extend the range of his friend's aircraft. That is totally hard core.
The way Mike built Scrappy, he could hang a STOL cub off of each wingtip and still take off... He built the plane to go anywhere, pick up as much stuff as he can fit in and still fly without overloading the airframe. It's not a STOL, even if the performance is impressive.
I have flown a Cherokee 140 backwards. The wing doesn't care where the relative wind chimes from. As long as it's going over the wing fast enough it'll fly, even if it's going backwards.
watch closely Frank Knapp in the yellow plane, before take off uses the head wind to lift the rear of the plane before even moving, that looked impressive.
Of course the lightest aircraft will do the best at this. I'm surprised they don't do this by weight class. Then you'd see what could be done with aircraft able to carry stuff. A plane that could carry two passengers and 500lbs of gear is likely more useful to a bush pilot than something that you could only fly solo. Not knocking the skills involved, but there are definitely things that add to the challenge.
it is done by weight class, and there are winners in every class, such as at 0:21 you will see the winner of the light touring class, but this story is about a world record setting landing, not the winners of every class.
By your definition would Carrier, take off and landing count? On Warthunder its a bit of a competition to see just how big a plane you can land on a CV.
This is true of most competitions - it is not what is practical, it is what is possible with the best engineering, design, and pilot skills aimed at that one parameter. The same thought as why you'd never want a formula one car as a daily driver, it's not built to be practical, it's meant for being as good as possible in that one competition, and is totally useless at anything else. There are probably other classes for weight, or the most realistic would be "you can use any plane you want with any modifications you want, but you have to carry 500lb of concrete sacks (an easily loadable heavy cargo that might be of use to some remote cabin only accessible by plane.)" Just like I think of truck racing events, while I understand the impracticality of most race events in relation to practical driving (NASCAR, Formula One, drag racing, etc) I think if they're racing semi cabs they should be pulling something as that is a semi truck's purpose - "whoever can pull this tanker trailer fastest 'round this track wins." One question I do ponder, in regards to Seth Thomas' question, is factoring in wind. I think it would make more sense for it to be a zero-wind competition, as in enough wind any plane can takeoff or land vertically, I've heard numerous stories of that. At the very least, wind parameter should be a fixed constant, which it sounds like this place is approximately as the wind is pretty constant there. In which case my strategy would be to build a very light, large wing area plane that could fly as slow as that wind speed, and take off and land vertically. Not even bother to put wheels on it.
2 of my neighbors do these competitions on the grass runway behind my house. So much fun to watch them practice. 7ts0 airport . They barely get out of their hangers before they are gone. We had a T6 Texan out there today doing landings. Fun to hear him take off. Those old radials are Music to my ears.
I remember a STOL competition at the Farnborough International Air Show many moons ago. A variety of aircraft put on their show, and the announcer was about to announce the winner when he interrupted himself with news of a late entrant. A modified Harrier arrived over the runway and proceeded to land backwards with no roll, and take off backwards too. Unbeatable! 😂
When the plane take off it looks like a skater who pop the tail of his board to jump, in this case the back wheel, and then the plane looks like giving a motor kick, like the front foot kick of the skater. Is it like this, or?
Used to tow gliders with 180 horse Supercubs, Got really good at landing short since all flights were averaged 11 minutes. The most I did was 42 landings and take offs in one day.
The pilots who fly student parachutists up are good at that. Cessna 172 (for example), pilot + 4 passengers, all of whom have chutes, helmets, boots etc. Stall warner going all the way up to 2500' (and I don't mean bip-bip-bippety-bip, I mean a full-on unbroken beeeeeeeee all the way). 3 Passengers out (the students on static lines) and then side-slip all the way back down to load up the next 3.
@@dansmith6990 So for a perfect score they want pilots to tap the back wheel down, bounce up, fly backwards a planes length, and land the front wheels on that same spot?
Draco wins on badass points alone. I'm not even a pilot, but anyone with the IQ if a gummy bear can see Draco is something special. Loved the build videos. I was hurt at work and I'm heading into retraining soon. I actually had a appointment yesterday with the composites instructor at a local college. Draco's build videos played a part in that possible choise.
@@ChuckBeefOG Unless you built it around the engine and task...like the Draco. Just saying it's a different beast for a different world of aviation. Different loads for different toads ;)
It seems like the limiting factor in keeping the landing roll short is the tail lifting up when the pilot stands on the brakes. To avoid that, if they had a variable-pitch propeller, and just reversed the pitch upon landing, that wouldn't make the plane want to flip over the way the brakes do.
I was at an air show once in Bavaria where they had a bush plane fly backwards. It worked because he had a good breeze to work with. I was 9 or ten years old. The coolest thing ever.
★★★ *FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VIDEO / FACT UPDATES* ★★★
*1) People are saying they have seen shorter landings and even linking videos to these landings* - To be considered a world record, it needs to be done under the rules and observation of an official that can judge it, such as these planes on the day of this competition. Just because you landed a plane on a runway in a shorter distance once when no one was paying attention, it does not count.
*2) The planes landed in like just a few feet, not 9 feet, how are they measuring these landings?* - Here are some STOL competition rules I found.
*MEASURING TAKEOFFS* - Take-off distance will be measured to where the furthest main wheel leaves the ground for the last time.
*MEASURING LANDINGS* - Landing distance will be measured from the reference line to the main gear.
Here is the Valdez Fly-In and Air Show STOL Rules PDF Link - www.valdezflyin.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/2018-Valdez-Fly-In-Rules.pdf
Gonna have to go with the other guy. If there's footage of it, it counts. Nothing magical about Alaska and their refs.
@@joblessalex then you do not get the point of a competition or competition rules, you can't simply go film a landing somewhere with perfect headwinds for a 0 foot landing when no one else got to do it.
Either you have to count any run with natural wind, or none of the runs with natural wind. You can't just say only the wind of a specific area is valid for a world record, it's a WORLD record. These guys just set a local record.
@@accursedcursive4935 no they set a world record with officials, but i see I am having trouble explaining it, so you just think what ever you want.
@@accursedcursive4935 The issue with world records is precisely this. Unless every world record attempt is held at exactly the same conditions, you cannot compare those attempts to one another.
In this case, they 'validate' the world record by ensuring that each pilot has always faced the same conditions.
Other pilots may have landed in shorter distances, but they may end doing far worse in Valdez.
When I was a pilot learning in Chicago, one day we did slow flight in heavy wind conditions. My instructor said "look outside." The headwind was so strong that that my Cessna was going backwards relative to the ground. I'll never forget that
That sounds really cool. In Arizona we don’t really get wind conditions like that. Might be worth taking a trip up to Chicago just to see that lol
Is this condition also considered stall?
@@redphantom451 There has to have a name for this phenomenon. We've all seen sea gulls fly into the wind and stay virtually stationary, but to see it happen to an aircraft would be interesting.
Same with me. My CFI flew at -11kts, I got it to -2. Any of these STOL birds could land or takeoff going backwards with any significant wind at all. My first trainer Vr was 44kts, and I've flown when it was blowing close to that on the ground
@@jrow84 -2?
Holy shit! You were in reverse gear in a airplane!😆 Amazing story!
why the need for US Navy aircraft carriers? this guys could operate from my kayak
You got a kayak?
kkkkk
@Mauricio Morro dang that's a pretty big kayak you got there
To be fair there was a guy in ww2 that used a j3 as a tank buster, he strapped bazookas on the wings and basically dive bomber them
@@justinvang6338 That's what she said.
They're doing 'stoppies' like we're used to seeing on motorbikes. So cool to watch. Also, I'm fascinated by the amount of lift created in such short distances.
The wind speeds must’ve help definitely. The area of the wings (underneath) is pretty big, and the plane is light too! Maybe the lift wasn’t THAT much, but the weight of the plane, and the speeds of the wind, did help. One lowers the lift necessary, the other helps generate it!
These guys can just go home and land their planes in the garden lol
I know you’re kidding, but my father told me that like 20 years ago (in Portugal) you could grab your ultralight and land it wherever you felt like landing, like at the beach or a backyard.
@@andregoncalves5200 if youre going down permission is the last thing on your mind
Clyde Frog He means people who keep their planes in their yard not for emergency landings
Vörös Gellért my grandfather used too fly too high school in his father’s Piper J3 Cub.
This was back in the 1950’s
His father was a crop duster and they lived in a small town. There was a farm field above my grandfather’s school, so he’d land the plane up there.
There is photographic evidence of it.
A plane like that would be a good thing if you worked at an airport as all you gotta do is fly it to the airport and fly a nice easy approach and when it’s time to go home in the evening, it’s showtime.
To put that in perspective, that's almost two Danny Devitos long.
Thank you, i needed help visualizing 9' 5".
Isn’t that 69 gallons Long??!
Americans will go out of their way to measure in anything but metric
@@npc6817 Because having more than one option is nicer than the Euro way. Sorry, we don't like being brexit'd to one bs thing.
ghostgunner11 the only units of measurement that matters
1:00 That's not an airplane. That's a horizontal helicopter.
F 35 remastred
Is there a vertical helicopter too?😏
The Americans insist that the inventors of the Airplane were the Wright Brothers, but no Judge specializing in aeronautics witnessed this.
Alberto Santos Dumont flew in Paris in front of an audience of thousands of people and dozens of judges specialized in aeronautics.
Alberto Santos Dumont is the Inventor of the Airplane
@@alphasigmasezon8597 No one cares, stfu. 😒
@@alphasigmasezon8597 that was in 1906. Wright brothers first flew in 1903.
With enough head wind, someone may have a negative number for take off and landing
Lol
Not possible. Landing length is the length of the plane + any length needed to come to a stop. If it went backwards it would be say 10ft plane + 2 feet rolling = 12 feet landing space required.
@@BoopSnoot ha ha ha, you just discribe it as possible; just that the number is always positive
@@AdrianJNyaoi
That's the point: length is a scalar not a vector, thus always positive.
I personally watched a Piper take off at Port Elizabeth airport, South Africa, where the plane climbed into a headwind and ended up around 50 metres backwards from the takeoff point at a height of around 100m. Strong winds at sea level.
@@Kanglar Scalars can be negative
I remember when I was learning to fly, my instructor decided to show me how wind can seriously affect the aircrafts performance. He pointed us into the wind, dropped all flaps, and then called the tower.. Cessna India Lima Lima, Requesting ground speed check please. There was a slight pause on the radio, then the tower calls back, India Lima Lima, you seem to have turned into a helicopter, we are showing negative 3 knots across the ground.
There can’t be a “Cessna India Lima” in the United States. You can’t have an O or an I in the tail number. They look too much like a zero and a one. It’s in the FARs.
@@hellonwheels9149 Guess what, we do have Cessna's in Australia... I know, I know, shock horror that somewhere other than the USA has Private Aircraft...
Vindicator Jones what does that have to do with a tail number “India Lima”
@@hellonwheels9149 Simple, in pretty much any other country i can think of besides the US the tail number only consists of letters and not numbers. The way we abbreviate callsigns here is by using the first letter (1 or 2 letters for the nation of registration) and the 2 last letters of the callsign.
Therefore India Lima Lima are most likely the last 3 letters of his callsign.
@@VindicatorJones you criminal aussies are allowed to have airplanes? how come when its an air disaster video 25 percent of the time its Quantas?
Great video! For those curious about the vehicle featured at 2:17, it's the Wigetworks Airfish 8, a ground-effect vehicle (GEV) that utilizes ground effect over water to operate at extremely low altitudes. The craft takes off and lands like a seaplane, but typically never climbs higher than the upper extent of ground effect (many are unable to, but certain classifications of GEV are able and permitted to climb higher for limited periods of time.) Since they fly so low, they operate according to maritime rules and regulations, but they're a much quicker and smoother journey than one on a ship, not experiencing drag from the water or the rocking of waves. The drawback is that, like seaplanes, rough waters make for uncomfortable (and even dangerous) take offs and landings, and if the seas are too rough they can't operate safely at all.
There was a giant Soviet plane that used that same technique.
Ekranoplanes?
very interesting thanks for the share
In the Soviet Union, these technologies were at a fairly high level
We put a string on them and call them kites
Thats kinda canadian
:-)
@@zanpekosak2383 3m is 9ft, barely less than what the pilots need to land planes in this video. Also, your reply is entirely unrelated to the comment.
Omg 😂😂🤣
😂😂😂
Came here expecting a clickbaity / bs channel based on the name and profile picture. Was pleasantly surprised.
Jep
Kyllä saakeli perkele
racist
That it's more clickbaity than you thought? Three minutes for a landing taking seconds is fucking absurd.
@@notmyrealname5473 not really Koska minä olen suomalainen.
This actually looks like a game with poor flying physics
For when you have a helipad but need a plane.
the smallest standard helipad is 50ft. Basically is a massive runway for these guys.
hahaha. Yes.
I watched a video of somone landing on a helipad in Dubai the other day.
That could land on my dining table! impressive.
Classiest humble-brag I ever heard.
Dick Taylor impressive most impressive
weird flex
Oh yeah? That could land on my dick.
@@schizosndwch shut up tiko
Guy: permission to land at helipad
ATC: what but your a plen
Guy: observe'
edit: I did this wrong out of spite on the comment people
*you're
@@DBDenzz so?
@@pixynowwithevenmorebelkanb6965 so next time you'll use the correct contraction
@@DBDenzz Who cares?
@@davecrupel2817 I do
Just nose-dive straight down and you'll win.
EZ
I am sure somebody done that.
You are a genius!
Just send the pilot's family his regards
suthobay uhm ackchewally...
Why not put parachutes on the plane? Stall vertical over the target, then release! Perfect STOL every time!
You have to also start again, you know.
"that's the shortest runway i've ever seen"
"yea, but look how wide it is!"
Well, from what we're seeing here, they COULD land on the runway crossways!
I think they actually just use the taxiway instead of the runway. Now I've got to go see it in person.
How many cessnas fit on the head of a needle?
@@kenhurley4441 might as well just take off out of the hanger lol
LoL love that joke! Oldey but goody.
This is amazing! My favorite uncle was a pilot and loved taking people up. I miss him dearly.
See you guys in 6 years when this gets recommended for no reason
I guess this line will be perfect then
_It’s been a long day without you, my friend..._
celestialappetite Yep, take care.
yeah yeah
All hail the algorithm
Berdy stfu
I’ll just show up next year with a helicopter disguised as a small bush plane. Muhahahaha
🤘
Hahah
Show up in a V22 Osprey
@@RileyTech fuck it. harrier jet
"What's that loud helicopter sounding noise?"
"I don't know!"
@0:52 respect for that Cessna pilot, he almost do the same with that "heavy" metal-made aircraft like the others with those probably much lighter composite ultralights.
Nobody:
Every plane in every GTA game ever:
Yeah but have you seen Just Cause 3/4-
The thunderhawk / albatross in JC3 though...
except Starling ngl, try to land it within 50 Metres
And far cry 5
Absolutely amazing. The precision required to make landings like these must be enormous.
It really isn't -- at least not in the way we tend to think of precision in things like landing on a carrier or complex aerobatics. The aircraft really does most of the work here.
Mind you, this stuff is extremely impressive, but it's more about setting up the aircraft in such a way that these extreme STOL maneuvers are possible. Big wings, vortex generators, good power, and as absolutely lightweight as possible. Once these things are properly set up, piloting them is actually incredibly easy. But getting them dialed in this way takes a ton of skill and dedication.
I've been flying small planes for about 20 years now and I've done a few hours in a STOL configured aircraft, and it's just about the most fun I've ever had in a plane.
The takeoff is more dangerous and difficult!
Absolute rubbish!! The plane literally stalls itself onto the ground
Really - how so?@@puddingleaf
I'd really really want one of these, so that I can land on top of my workplace (a mall with gigantic rooftop parking). Took me 40 minutes just to drive to this place every morning.
During my time in the German Airforce we had the DO 27 STOL liaison plane. We were told that the DO 27 could land at about 50 km/h and if the head wind is strong enough could start nearly like an elevator.
They could use a pickup truck as as aircraft carrier.
I used a bus in FSX...
@@WanganTunedKeiCar i hated that mission. everyone in my family tried it and we all failed XD
"and here comes Larry!!"
granted, we didnt play very often 😅
@@leow2672 I hated it as well, no I _loathed_ it. Every time, something went wrong. First time, fail to locate the bloody bus; second, come from the wrong direction; third, come from the wrong direction, this time perpendicular to the bus; fourth through seventy-eighth, crash into the bus; then, land it...only for the game to crash because I clipped the tail gear into the platform.
They do that at air shows. Search "Jelly Belly" airplane
Just take the canopy and couches off of a pontoon boat you’re good to go
That take off at 1:00 is hilarious ! lol :)
It's like some cute bee taking off from some flower. xD
Helicopters are like: am I a joke to you?
Pretty sure that tail "bump" was intentional to get lift sooner. That's skill!
The Americans insist that the inventors of the Airplane were the Wright Brothers, but no Judge specializing in aeronautics witnessed this.
Alberto Santos Dumont flew in Paris in front of an audience of thousands of people and dozens of judges specialized in aeronautics.
Alberto Santos Dumont is the Inventor of the Airplane
It was beautiful.
0:33 smoothest ryanair landing
How many ruined propellers had to happen before these pilots perfected the braking force.
Like spark plugs to a dragster...
@@sandspar they still ruin their spark plugs to this day.
Actually, probably not very many. Pops are driven by the crankshaft, and with no clutch that means that any prop strike requires that you completely take apart the engine and check for damage. Prop strikes very often result in engine replacement, and that's only if the plane strikes the prop and then rocks back without causing any other damage. These guys really don't want to risk that.
Looks like they can keep the tail flying with the prop wash with the brakes mashed.
I was Also wondering about tail wheels... ;)
If there is enough wind, planes can take off vertically.
The record is meaningless unless it is done without wind.
what are you on ,you need wind one way or the other to fly or to take off and land you stuck up idiot without an aeroplane,i thought they were cool,much better than your stupid comment,atb from scotland lardass
It’s for fun, take the stick out of your ass and just enjoy.
In a non official capacity you're in charge of finding such a place please report your findings in a timely manner
@@michaelevans386 Question, do you reside in Texas and just take a trip to Costa Rico where you were almost stranded because of the 737MAX?
@phuc eweand it only needs 2 attempts
bush pilots be like: "throttling to one hun- rotating"
"VR" 3 minutes later "V1"
Stupid joke.
V ontrotate
Lol
Who needs a flying car? Just do like these planes.
@JBryan314 it's a lot more like a flying ship
A flying plane
Too dangerous cuz of the blades speeeeeeeeeeeeed and strength of the be like worst stonks
I live in Alaska and these STOL are common -- and exciting to experience when being flown in and dropped off in wilderness for fishing and hunting expeditions.
pilot: "requesting land to the ramp"
twr: "wind calm and cleared to land on the ra- wait what?"
Amazing. Looks like a safe airplane to learn to fly in with a stol speed somewhere around the speed of a pissed off frog !
In years to come itll be a contented frog!
@@Mark13091961 lol 😁👍
That's what I thought: Wouldn't it be nice to fly such a plane on a warm summer day - it looks safe enough to be comfortable.
Actually, these little ultralights are way more dangerous. Ever tried to land one in choppy air? You get bounced around pretty good. One second you're straight and level and the next, you're over on a wingtip.
A heavier aircraft is safer for the same reason a larger sailboat handles better in rough seas. You don't want to be playing among the white caps in a 12' dingy...
Ronald Brown you’re ignoring wind speed in your stall speed calculations. The planes might not look like they are moving, but the air is moving around the plane. Same difference really.
Nobody:
Not a single soul on this world:
Mobile flight Sims when you take off: 2:49
Lmao
That was me for 4 years until MS Flight sim came out. Also if you're not fortunate enough to have a pc, I'd reccomend X-Plane 10. It has a very limited map selection, but it has the best graphics of any mobile flight sim out there, and it is basically a scaled down pc title from 10 years ago so it has decent physics, a good selection of planes, and fully interactive cockpits in all of them.
Sea harrier : “am I a joke to you”
F-35B : hold my beer
Those are vtol
These are stol
Sea harrier is a joke, i agree with the STOLs.
It can take off and land vertical but yeah its joke
Ever heard of the F-35B?
Edit: Oh, someone already said that
0:13
'...Held in Valdez, Alaska.'
*BAD COMPANY 2 INTENSIFIES* (╬ಠ益ಠ)
As someone whose been to Valdez, Alaska, that map was funny asf to me lmao
Gta Style Landing/Takeoff XD
Reminds me of those people that can somehow land the Titan on top of the Maze Bank tower lol
hail hydra :))
Mostly Dodo
@@cpufreak101 i can lol
@@cpufreak101 Easy peasy
A lot of commenters here, fail to appreciate how special and innovative these aircraft are and the level of skill involved. Air speed being variable, these specialized machines could still amaze you in still air, relative to production aircraft. My little sister left the ground in a tornado. No skill involved. Mr. Reynolds on the other hand, built his own airplane and designed many features himself. Quite a guy. I hope that he has many offspring to carry on his spirit and keep life for the rest of us, fun. I hope to meet him.
I want to see a competition like this with Boeing 7-47’s.😂
Check out "fat albert". He's a c130 but cool nonetheless
@@jeremymcadam7400 How dare you insult Albert. He's a good man
I wanna see a Piper Club land on a 747!
@@jackiecs8190 Yes!
Absolutely incredible, I wouldn't have believed that was possible 👍👍. The take offs in particular are jaw dropping, but I guess the headwind really helps.
Yes, I would like to know the wind speed
Look at those mountains... such a beautiful place!
I have been to Valdez and I can honestly say...it is such an amazing place. Genuinely one of the most breathtaking places I've ever been. Imagine an Alaskan version of Mayberry and the bald eagles fly around like nothing. Also fish literally jumping from the water. Crystal clear blue water. Nice people. Genuine Alaska.
Technically possible to land in reverse if there’s enough wind
But it won't be shorter than the length of the plane, a distance doesn't care from where you measure it, it will always grow
Vision_Slayer_525 yes but it’s vector is in the opposite direction compared to a regular landing
@@shootmkillerxd8101 Yea, but they will still count from when the first wheel touches the ground to where the other wheels stop, so doesn't matter how you stop
Vision_Slayer_525 I didn’t say anything about distance in my comment, just saying it can land going backwards that’s all.
@@shootmkillerxd8101 Oh sorry, a lot of people are saying the the record can be beaten by a plane going backwards because the distance will be negative, I thought you were saying the same, my bad
Wonderful! BTW, imagine being there to see when the famous Ernst Udet took a Storch up and down on the spot in a strong headwind! He'd have loved this!
Anything like a 9 foot takeoff that gets the peanuts, drinks, and inflight movie going sooner is A-ok in my book.
Royal Gopnik Yes!! The captain next to you will have to turn off the “seatbelt sign” as well so you can crawl about the cabin : )
Now strap a mini gun on it and sell it to the navy.
*fires mini gun and plane does a backflip then continues into a flatspin*
One guy in WW2 strapped some Bazookas to the wing struts on a Piper Cub and used it to successfully take down 14 tanks throughout the war
@@nickfury1279 Ah, back when safety didn't fully kill any dumb but awesome ideas & lads had the balls too do them!
Too good for the Navy. To Marines it goes.
well, i heard a story about a guy somewhere in the middle east that strapped a hydra rocket pod to his PZL 104 Wilga and used a rifle scope to aim them....
That`s amazing. 20 seconds of this and I woke up on the chair in the morning.
in 1980 I landed a Cessna 150 with no forward motion, by accident I was learning how to fly
I believe that, too. Since this record doesn’t account for wind, the plane could do exactly this.
i believe ... LORD ! help Thou mine un_believf
Almost had that feeling yesterday. And I’m just learning to fly as well. Had a 15MPH headwind at Savannah airport. I was in a 150L. Put in 20 degrees of flaps and you can really slow down and take your landing step by step. Good way to learn. I was doing touch n go’s and reached 500’ on the go before I made it to the end of the runway. Fully loaded. With me and the instructor and fill tanks there’s only 25# to spare.
Are you saying you crashed?
@@rajgill7576 a very very gentle crash.
Im calling hacks on that yellow plane. He filled his plane with helium
I think so too
You need 1liter helium to lift one gramm
@@peterzingler6221 r/wooosh
It's the same magic trick that got banned in F1 from 1983
That 1939 little piper cub has got to be the cutest lil' aircraft I've ever seen!🥰
that some amazing control on planes there
Not easy at all. These guys have real talent.
I'd say 10% "talent" and 90% dedication and hard work - like most things in life. Perhaps I'd even substitute "orientation" for talent... :-)
deldridg pretty much
@@んや-s7z I teach my kids that excellence comes only from dedicated hard work (orientation is very helpful in this). As a parent, part of my job is to help them aspire to worthy pursuits and have the application over time to develop expertise in them that will lead them to being happy, satisfied and productive human beings.
@@んや-s7z aay its you again the odds
I am not into aircrafts, but this was in my recommended when i woke up at 3 am for pee. Now i reading about ultralights and etc. I don't regret it.
I guess he "STOL" the competition
Yup, cold air is thick. you don't need thermals if the air is the right density. If the wind is strong enough, you can hover in one spot. I had already decided to fly my RC piper cub today, but the battery is low, so i came here to kill time while it charges.
I was flying many years ago, from Palm Springs Ca to San Bernardino in a Cessna 150. Flying into a stiff headwind at full throttle, and following Interstate 10, I looked down and trucks in the interstate were passing me. Made for a long trip to San Berdoo.
@@kentbullard6917 hahahah Kent that sounds funny and a little bit scary and helpless. Lots of luck when flying mate ;)
moi toi Why didn't I think of that? Where were you 45 years ago?
Kent Bullard 45 years ago I was in Viêt Nam fighting the VC.
moi toi At that time I had already completed my military service, Air Force, but thank you for your service.
This is just AMAZING!!
Hats off to you guys you know what you're doing.
Masters of machines.
First his success with Imagine Dragons and now a world record?! Congrats Dan Reynolds!!
/S
Lol I read that too
Pilot : V1
Co : But sir we haven't roll on the runw -
Pilot : RoTatE
Just when I thought aviation was running out of feats to make me smile...
Plane: I stopped in 10ft
Other plane: I stopped in 9ft
Helicopter: Amateurs
The harriers and F-35 are laughing.
Osprey tilt rotor: sameeeee
Helicopter: Amateurs + Oh shit, massive head wind I'm outta here.
@@no-kf8yy a F-35 is 50 ft long
@@SergioElDeAlemania So? This is about the shortest takeoff and landing, not the overall size of the aircraft.
Well the record holder pilot indeed deservers a salute and a lot of appreciation BUT this guy @0:28 deserves a medal too for almost a vertical take off!!
These planes don’t need any runway to take off or land just amazing
They can use a road.
Not along it, across it!
The only reason the landing was so long was the length of the plane. Wheels only travelled about a foot!
It's measured from the target line. Goal is to land ON the line, anything past that is included in the measurement. You could land in 4' but if you hit the ground 200' past the line, then your official measurement would be 204'. Only the main gear counts, not the tailwheel/nosewheel. The point isn't solely about shortest distance but also precision to hit the mark.
@@RussellTelker what is I land before the line?
@@samuelmatheson9655 if the main gear hits the ground before the line it's a DQ.
@@RussellTelker ooof
@@samuelmatheson9655 keep in mind, while this competition is fun, it has its roots in back country flying where landing long could kill you and landing short might be a river, lake, boulder, etc... Precision is key.
This feels like speedrun any% except it's irl planes.
video games are like reality except they're video games
reality is like video games except it's reality
I love how he is standing still and his tail comes up
Pretty impressive! There's a few helicopters out there that would have a bit of trouble landing in a 9 foot circle!😁👍
I'm not a real pilot, I just play one on my PC. The great thing about flight simulator is being able to set the wind speed and direction. And if you also have aircraft designer you can land on the aircraft carrier if you increase the drag effect of the landing gear so it stops you as if you caught the wire. Most people never get the chance to experience this in real life, so thank you for sharing this with us!
2:52- That pitch is absolutely insane
I’m glad to hear Korg found work after endgame.
Kidding. Love you, man.
There's another video going around now in which a guy landed his plane against a strong headwind in 0' 0" - just touched down with no forward movement at all. Yes I know it doesn't count, but still, it was far more impressive to watch than these. Sorry, I can no longer find the links to that video.
Yep, I can confirm I saw it as well. I looked through my youtube history but didn't see it, i wonder if it was removed?
That's pretty cool, great pilots flying those planes, they understand the wind along with there machine/plane very well. Great JOB. 🎖🛫🛬
Well boys, the TH-cam algorithm is at it again.
That takeoff at 1:02 is one of the funniest things I've ever seen lol 😂😂
After my 5hr silver C flight I landed my glider backwards. The ground crew had to assist to keep it from blowing away in reverse.
What kind of glider?
@@Perktube1 A Slingsby Tutor.
While you're talking about Ground Effect and having the wing closer to the ground, I can't help but notice the high mounted wings. Mount the wing lower for greater Ground Effect. Also, are they allowed to have pre-compressed springs in the landing gear, when triggered to cause the aircraft to bounce vertically straight up (then gun it) ?
Frank Napp paid a visit to Mike Patey recently, and Mike said that anyone expecting Scrappy to outperform Frank's ultra lightweight Piper Cub was going to be disappointed. Will all its 700bhp and carbon fiber construction, Scrappy is going to be far to heavy to compete with Frank's aircraft. Draco did some amazingly short take offs and landings for what was not a small plane, but Frank's Piper Cub is built entirely for STOL, and Scrappy is going to be an all round go and land anywhere plane. In his last video Mike even talked about carrying extra fuel to extend the range of his friend's aircraft. That is totally hard core.
The way Mike built Scrappy, he could hang a STOL cub off of each wingtip and still take off...
He built the plane to go anywhere, pick up as much stuff as he can fit in and still fly without overloading the airframe. It's not a STOL, even if the performance is impressive.
I have flown a Cherokee 140 backwards. The wing doesn't care where the relative wind chimes from. As long as it's going over the wing fast enough it'll fly, even if it's going backwards.
Not bigger planes tho.
I imagine the skills to do that must be incredible.
watch closely Frank Knapp in the yellow plane, before take off uses the head wind to lift the rear of the plane before even moving, that looked impressive.
gday chris here and welcome back to clickspring
Fun fact: in russian 'stol' literally means table
To be fair, I've seen tables longer than his takeoff run and DEFINITELY longer than his landing!
yea. but in russian we havnt using STOL in terms of aviation
Of course the lightest aircraft will do the best at this. I'm surprised they don't do this by weight class. Then you'd see what could be done with aircraft able to carry stuff. A plane that could carry two passengers and 500lbs of gear is likely more useful to a bush pilot than something that you could only fly solo.
Not knocking the skills involved, but there are definitely things that add to the challenge.
it is done by weight class, and there are winners in every class, such as at 0:21 you will see the winner of the light touring class, but this story is about a world record setting landing, not the winners of every class.
By your definition would Carrier, take off and landing count? On Warthunder its a bit of a competition to see just how big a plane you can land on a CV.
This is true of most competitions - it is not what is practical, it is what is possible with the best engineering, design, and pilot skills aimed at that one parameter. The same thought as why you'd never want a formula one car as a daily driver, it's not built to be practical, it's meant for being as good as possible in that one competition, and is totally useless at anything else. There are probably other classes for weight, or the most realistic would be "you can use any plane you want with any modifications you want, but you have to carry 500lb of concrete sacks (an easily loadable heavy cargo that might be of use to some remote cabin only accessible by plane.)" Just like I think of truck racing events, while I understand the impracticality of most race events in relation to practical driving (NASCAR, Formula One, drag racing, etc) I think if they're racing semi cabs they should be pulling something as that is a semi truck's purpose - "whoever can pull this tanker trailer fastest 'round this track wins."
One question I do ponder, in regards to Seth Thomas' question, is factoring in wind. I think it would make more sense for it to be a zero-wind competition, as in enough wind any plane can takeoff or land vertically, I've heard numerous stories of that. At the very least, wind parameter should be a fixed constant, which it sounds like this place is approximately as the wind is pretty constant there. In which case my strategy would be to build a very light, large wing area plane that could fly as slow as that wind speed, and take off and land vertically. Not even bother to put wheels on it.
You saw the c185’s at the beginning doing the job
2 of my neighbors do these competitions on the grass runway behind my house. So much fun to watch them practice. 7ts0 airport . They barely get out of their hangers before they are gone. We had a T6 Texan out there today doing landings. Fun to hear him take off. Those old radials are Music to my ears.
So you telling me it could land on a helicopter pad.
I will used Boeing 747-8 for doing this challenge
I remember a STOL competition at the Farnborough International Air Show many moons ago. A variety of aircraft put on their show, and the announcer was about to announce the winner when he interrupted himself with news of a late entrant.
A modified Harrier arrived over the runway and proceeded to land backwards with no roll, and take off backwards too. Unbeatable! 😂
When the plane take off it looks like a skater who pop the tail of his board to jump, in this case the back wheel, and then the plane looks like giving a motor kick, like the front foot kick of the skater.
Is it like this, or?
Used to tow gliders with 180 horse Supercubs, Got really good at landing short since all flights were averaged 11 minutes. The most I did was 42 landings and take offs in one day.
That’s a lot of takeoffs. I’ve done ten touch and goes per hour with student pilots but that’s different and not 42 in a day.
DumbDuck44 he he, I was a crop duster for seventeen years after too- the ditch diggers of aviation.
👌
The pilots who fly student parachutists up are good at that. Cessna 172 (for example), pilot + 4 passengers, all of whom have chutes, helmets, boots etc. Stall warner going all the way up to 2500' (and I don't mean bip-bip-bippety-bip, I mean a full-on unbroken beeeeeeeee all the way).
3 Passengers out (the students on static lines) and then side-slip all the way back down to load up the next 3.
Amazing shortest landings and takeoffs.
I’ve been to this competition. I went this year actually.
I’m confused, it looks like the landing is about 3 foot not 10 foot
When the rear wheel touched, his landing officially started.
Counting where the rear wheel touched up to the front of the plane.
@@denimchicken104 that seems dumb though, because the minimum landing would be the length of the aircraft (from wheel to wheel)
@@dansmith6990 I agree
@@dansmith6990 So for a perfect score they want pilots to tap the back wheel down, bounce up, fly backwards a planes length, and land the front wheels on that same spot?
I think the take offs were more impressive. Wow.
Don't think Trent Palmer in his Kit Fox or Mike in DRACO could beat that one lol
They did win Oshkosh last year, without the steady headwind. Would be interesting to see what those two could do with similar conditions.
Their planes are not optimised for such compition. STOL drag is what they are into.
Draco wins on badass points alone.
I'm not even a pilot, but anyone with the IQ if a gummy bear can see Draco is something special.
Loved the build videos.
I was hurt at work and I'm heading into retraining soon. I actually had a appointment yesterday with the composites instructor at a local college.
Draco's build videos played a part in that possible choise.
A would take a carbon cub over Draco any day. No one wants a heavy turbo prop in a bush plane.
@@ChuckBeefOG Unless you built it around the engine and task...like the Draco. Just saying it's a different beast for a different world of aviation. Different loads for different toads ;)
ATC: all runways are being used
STOL pilots: *lands in hangar*
ATC: oh well that's smart
It seems like the limiting factor in keeping the landing roll short is the tail lifting up when the pilot stands on the brakes. To avoid that, if they had a variable-pitch propeller, and just reversed the pitch upon landing, that wouldn't make the plane want to flip over the way the brakes do.
This guy could probably parallel park and land the plane at the same time
Otto Skorzeny invented this competition, when he landed his Fieseler Storch on a mountain to evade Benito Mussolini
To be fair, Fieseler Storch was developed before he used it :)
I was at an air show once in Bavaria where they had a bush plane fly backwards. It worked because he had a good breeze to work with.
I was 9 or ten years old. The coolest thing ever.