I am no longer affiliated with this gym. For those who are interested in visiting me while im in NYC, you can find me at Glory Martial Arts Centre in Bay Ridge!
the contact in here was not expected! you guys exchanged some solid knocks. Gave me a lot of insight into the approach with such a weight difference. Have you ever been to City League Coffee in Bay Ridge?
The bouncer reminds me of a side boss that has that one annoying move you can’t block but only evade and is extremely annoying because one punch you loose half if not all health points
@@NROhvac nick. Your accurate ass breakdown let's any REAL fighter know you're in fact a FIGHTER that loves fighting games. Lol I don't even know you and I can tell. Lol
When pro athletes breakdown their sparring like this, it always reminds me of how massive is the gap between us amateurs (even though I've been training for more than 5 years) and them.
Indeed, the skill gap between untrained, hobbyist, amateur and pro is simply staggering. What's crazier is that even among pros there is yet another huge gap between bottom ladder vs top ranked fighters.
@@jayc5248 BJ is notorious for being the most undisciplined prospect in MMA. Him losing to a guy half his size after so many KO losses, it's not surprising. Sad to see rare talent go to waste
Great breakdown, that’s a good example of a big tough dude. It’s not a beautiful technical back and forth but he seems as dangerous as anybody you’ve been up against. Cool vid thanks as always Jeff!
I think the technique is there, just the athleticism/flexibility to employ them isn’t. If that dude lost 20-30lbs and improved his flexibility, I think his technique would show better
Always scary when a big dude rushes toward you and your strikes don't seem to hurt him as much as his would. Great composure, Jeff. Your movements are beautiful!
When I used to train with Muay Thai atlhetes here on Brazil in King Thai (training center where Amadeu Cristiano came from) my former trainer always saying to me when we used to spar with heavyweight atlhetes : "hit and get out,don't trade"( in brazilian language:"bate e sai,não fica trocando"). Now I know what he was talking about thanks by you Jeff. I have been watching your videos for 3 years,keep it up,U made my sparring sessions better. Be safe,be healthy,wish you the best always!
I’m 6ft and 265, built quite a bit like this guy and train MT. Don’t see much representation of this body type in MT videos so nice example of what some skill can look like at this size.
What sucks about being a smaller, shiftier fighter going against a big guy like this is that they start to go harder when they feel they're losing. As the smaller guy, I land alot more of attacks when we're going like 50%, b/c going 50% usually makes the bigger guy even slower, so then they start to get frustrated when they're landing barely anything and you keep touching them up. In an effort to move faster, they throw harder, and at some point there's a threshold where your like, "hey man, don't kill me" 😂.
You make a great point! I worked at a gym for awhile and one of my coworkers(much smaller than me), wanted to do western boxing sparring. Myself being larger and using kickboxing, figured it was a good way to get better at just hands, so i agreed. I feel bad cause when he started landing alot on me, i decided to just march forward(fast), take whatever he did and just nail him. Welllll, he saw that coming. So everytime i got frustrated, he got really evasive. I remember thinking.."wow is it this obvious to him, what im trying to do when i get frustrated 🤔?"
@@manfrombritain6816 I mean I get it, which is why I have to remind them that this light sparring is fake in a way, but it has its uses (combos, movement, range, timing, etc), but it's lacking that real fight contact which changes everything. The second those big dudes start hitting you for real, you realize how fragile you are 😂
I've been sparring partners that are about 240+ lbs., one of them working in tactical security, and even though they're thankfully controlled, it is yet another reminder of how much size and strength absolutely matter in a fight, which makes total sense why that line of work employs people of that size; you really wouldn't want to mess with them in real life lol for training purposes, it has taught quite a few things that I am working on, not the least of which is being even more disciplined about my guard and defense, while at the same time biting down and attacking under stress and pressure, a feeling one normally wouldn't get sparring smaller partners as one could get away with a lot more with superior height and reach.
I'm a huge 5'-7" behemoth at 137 lbs! Everyone I sparred or fought was always bigger than me! I never fooled myself into that trap where one thinks that just because you train in various martial arts that you'd beat an average person who had size and weight against you. Just sparring untrained people wakes you up to that reality! They are able to hit you because they're awkward and they hit harder because they aren't as controlled. LOL That's why I also train in edged weapons/force multipliers. Use my speed and foot work (if I had to). But mainly drop the ego and never try and get into dumb situations. Anyway, great vid! Much respect to Jeff n the nimble big guy!
Training with bigger guys will always teach you more than a smaller guy. Training vs smaller guy just feeds your ego because it's so easy to dominate them.
Yeah most definitely. But if you’ve got good wrestling and jujitsu. You can use that against a bigger opponent. But I think with striking a bigger guys gonna have an advantage
Man this was really cool to watch. You're both bobbing and weaving fantastically. Both very mobile, both have great endurance. Thanks for sharing with us!
In my utmost humble opinion. What I truly appreciate about Jeff’s proficiency, is his ability to adapt accordingly in regards to his opponents, this again is an testament to his overall experience, we can observe the same with other high level practitioners, Saenchai for one ( He usually fights above his weight class). One of the key factors to be able to “Dominate” An larger/ heavier/ stronger opponent is the ability to absorb/ deflect/ redirect the energy, avoiding direct confrontation:going force against force ( As doing so against a stronger individual will indeed be an losing battle) Many south East Asian systems purport/ encourage this, ie: “ You can’t move him? Then move yourself” A good clincher/ grappler utilizes the same tactics, frame/s/ structural sound foundation with sublime tactility/ sensitivity, to find the path of least resistance, andJeff, again, applies and utilizes the aforementioned tactics impeccably. Always an honor to be able to observe and learn from such an peer as yourself Jeff. Sincere regards. Fellow Martial Artist. Tom Framnes. Norway.
Ramone has skills and control. Impressive evasion and strikes on your part too! Dodging the numerous strikes in those long combos he threw at you does not look easy.
As a relatively smaller guy (5'9'' 180lbs) I love sparring against the big boys. It always reminds me not to get too big for my britches. Size does matter. I would have no hope, other than fighting EXTREMELY dirty, against Ramone. As you showed, you could be great and dodge 20 punches, and hit with 20, but one from him will equal 20 of ours lol. We have a big guy at our dojo. 6'2'' 260lbs, and when he charges forward, I still get a big scared lol. I have to check his knees or dodge and parry around his backside fast or its over. Great vid as usual Jeff, great to see you back at the JKD school.
It’s rare when a smaller dude can hold his own against a heavyweight, and if they do hold their own it’s because their power is unreal for their size. Canelo is a good example of a small guy who went up too much in weight and tried to overachieve. (Respect to canelo) but size definitely matters
@@1gadena at one point, the amount of power needed to KO or rock any dude has been met, regardless of their size. It's not like they got much bigger HP tank because they are bigger. The offense might be much higher but at one point, the human body can just take so much... a clean punch from Mike Tyson can drop any man on Earth regardless of their size...
This is a great example of what is sometimes required in terms of opponent and intensity, for a quality and rigerous pressure test. Also, it reveals the reality of why we have weight classes in open-trade sports (boxing, mma, etc). Coming from a martial arts background, its exactly this sort of environment and opponent that reveals the challenges that self-defense, "technique based" systems must necissarily come up against when it comes to effective application of skill in extremis. Despite the training, experience, cardio, strength, speed, etc that Jeff has learned and earned...a bigger opponent is more than just a bigger target. When technique levels are closer to similar, there's not a huge reduction in somebodies quickness and reaction speed despite the very real increase in muscle and nerve fiber, bone density, and sheer mass...so no matter what eight winds fist you might practice or whatever dojang guru you learned froms' lineage...its gonna take more than what you might have in terms of literal physical characteristics to overcome. not to say that that their arent any. all this to say that technique and skill are not levels to be matched against physical characteristics directly; but multiplying factors for them running along fine lines of deliniation. Os, Jeff.
Just noticed how astoundingly long the bouncer's arms are! Usually, stocky guys also have average/short reaches. I'm built similarly- 70 inches tall, but nearly 75 inches reach. I'm also a little heavy too, often over 200 lbs. It was refreshing for me to see a spar against someone with a build as awkward (in my opinion). Anyway, great video as usual.
Wow. This is evidence that a big guy with less experience that a lighter pro fighter can be dangerous. Gone are the days when everybody believed that a small martial artist can whip any big guys butt. The reality is different. Good video Jeff, you realy are a true combatant.
I'm a big (old) guy who now trains mainly in boxing and I must say Ramone is rather scary 😟🤗 A big man that has some agility and knowlege/experience. I like the point where you mention being patient and waiting for a punch. That's when I feel most confident and in control of a fight. Calm down, relax and see what's coming. You gotta have something to work with before you know what you're up against, and usually where there is a punch there is also an opening for a counter.
Wow awesome video coach! Being a smaller guy myself and having felt what it’s like to engage with bigger dudes, watching this gave me serious anxiety lol, one clean punch controlled or not is dangerous, great job and great video, very much enjoyed it
I mean if he is fighting someone his size then yeah, but most of the time he probably can just eat the punch, while you are open and counter and you'll be the one KTFO
For sure he moves well he’s explosive, he’ll demolish 99 percent plus of people out there. However he can def up his game by adding some versatility. My bro is 6’3 250, ex college football player and thought he would come in and crush everyone by rushing with straight punches. He got humbled to say the least.
Great video. You were in control of the Boxing round, slipping most of his shots and landing a lot of your own. The Muay Thai round looked a lot closer. For such a big guy, he has fantastic movement and stamina.
Subbed! As an ex amateur boxer I want to comend you on the breakdowns but even more for your respect for your opponent and humbleness that only a true fighteer has (not always obviously).
Nice 👍 I remember training 15 20 years ago in a Muay Thai gym and even the big guys who some had no technique but they're so much mass behind a kick or a punch that s*** would rock ya like a tree trunk falling on you.
The big guy is talented and very heavy handed and fast…..your footwork movement timing and range distance was great….you are also very composed and tough 👍
When i was a teenager for the past 10 years i thought kung fu is the best, BUT After i become an adult I'm interested in the Mixed Martial Arts as the most realistic and dynamic form of fighting. Thanks for the learning you share with us sir 👍
I’d be scared to fight someone big who moves that fast 😆. Jeff this was great! Can we please have more videos of you sparring with guys like this please?
Well done Jeff. Teeping constantly on a guy that runs in always works as well as the peek a boo (tyson) method. Appreciate that you are so honest about your videos no ego there. Great work.
Hey Jeff, love your channel! Great breakdown, very helpful for me as I’m usually the smaller guy. I have a question about your head movement. I see you lean over your waist when dipping. I see a lot of boxers do that too, but I was taught never to do that in Muay Thai because you can eat knees and kicks from there. How do you dip like that while still evading kicks and knees?
Great stuff, as always. It's amazing how weight plays such a crucial role. You are obviously more skilled, but if he decided to go full power, that would be it. You can't "block" strikes with such power/weight behind them....a guy his size cracked my ribs with a body shot during sparring and I had actually blocked by tucking my elbow to my hip...still, the force was enough to cause damage.
@@NYMartialArtsAcademy Yeah, but Jeff couldn't inflict the damage this guy could have inflicted if they went full contact. Weight divisions exist for a reason. For example a normal sized 13 year old, couldn't really knock you out, no matter how fast and skilled they are. I have sparred big guys - leg kicks don't even register, and yes, you could KO them (in theory) if you caught their chin the right way, but it is most likely they will destroy you first before you get the opportunity to do so. Realistically, you could only dominate them on the ground and go for a good choke (as the dynamics change and they can't hit you as easily) but still, it's highly unlikely...
@@panostsak Not necessarily. You have sparred big guys as we all have, but you're not Jeff,. In an actual fight (either street or professional fight) people will do things different than in sparring. I've sparred smaller faster guys that dont hurt me in sparring, but in a real fight at full speed, full force, it takes just one shot to shut out the lights. Dont think that Jeff isnt holding back too here. What makes these sparring rounds so interesting is how talented and skilled Ramone is WITH his size.
As a bigger (and now relatively old) guy (6', 230) in JKD who focuses on speed, power, and accuracy, I am very impressed by this fighter. He has great movement as well as stamina - with a slight waist trimming he would be even more capable. The "punch and run" technique from the "smaller guy" here makes good sense. Thanks for this video.
Man i am shocked at how size neutralizes skill at some point, The largest guys i have sparred thus far are 300-315 pounds, thing is these guys only had good boxing and one had boxing+Bjj down, thing is i have a ton of tactics with big men that i always employ and they work like a system so i was shocked to see you struggling here like legit. Someday i'll meet a 280 pound beast like this guy too though so i will be ready just for incase great vid man.
This dude is a UNIT! I'd imagine with a little more time and technical work, he'd take that size and natural durability into a seriously dangerous set of skills. Cheers, Jeff!
When someone blast forward like that, is sidestepping around him not a better option? Fx stepping to his right or left with your whole body. Forcing him to stop going forward. Especially when he gains momentum it's hard to stop that and just turn to his side where you are now. It could create some new openings to explore. Do it again and again when needed. Either right away or Evade backwards in the beginning and suddenly move around him. There are many ways to do it right, even while striking etc. There is also many ways to screw this up so be careful. I mean sidestepping about or under 90 degrees according to his forward line, perhaps under his strike and small cirkel around him sharply. Just an idea for more counter options against the forward barrage of punches😊. His rear leg is the easiest side to get around him. Bc when he steps with that leg it's harder to get around.
Yeah you got the right idea it’s just hard to do that in the moment especially if your trying to slip punches like Jeff is cause your planting your feet when you slip. That’s why when a guy is moving his head a lot you can usually hit the body pretty’s easily.
@@NYMartialArtsAcademy he quickly understood his opponent and he disturbed Jeff a lot by pressuring him . Jeff lost his ability to compose . We can clearly see that this guy know how to fight even with a superior technical opponent . I guess he got a street fight sight IQ
For a guy his size, Ramon is in fabulous shape and his skills are very good. He'd be a tough guy to beat if a clubber ever started something. Very impressive.
I had a training partner that size that was a lineman in Alabama on a full ride in the early 00's! He too was a bouncer. MMA was still developing, and I was never as good as you, but it was eye opening! Dude's half-hearted jab was like a committed cross from a lot of guys my weight (145lbs fighting and 155 walking around), the difference in our left hooks was hilarious... I could use kick boxing to hold him off for a while. Then, inevitably, I'd wear out.... I wasn't in your shape though; I could make two or three, 2 -3 minute rounds, before he could just run me over and I couldn't avoid his shots or sweeps well enough to be worth while. I'd beg to work with guys closer to my size then... 😆 Off camera, did he try to grapple and ground and pound you more? I know his instructors didn't want him screwing up their seminar, but you have way more skill than I had-- I'd love to see how that would go!
loved the video, cheers Jeff. This opponent had a presence of 'real' and dangerous. Great to see sparring between different body types/weights. Envy both fighters' skills
Strength is very important - especially in a street fight. So yes, lifting more weight makes you a better fighter. Ramsey Dewey spoke about it in his videos a lot.
@@khonyeleaglefergumedov9175 no, I exactly have said, that even without martial arts training a person, who lifts a lot, is going to be far more dangerous in a street fight, that a person without training both. Sometimes even a very strong person can challenge a martial artist in a street fight, but of course there are levels.
This guy is extremely impressive. I’m no where near as heavy as him but there I was coping and thinking I can’t be fast because I’m "too big". Need those reminders☝🏻
Fighting smart and humble big guys is the best. My cousin and I used to spar in boxing and he had about 3 inches and 100-120 pounds on me. I had a lot more experience but despite this he was still able to demonstrate restraint and it was a great learning experience.
I'll tell you something, both of these guys are in good shape! The average person is unaware of the level of conditioning that is required to go a fraction of the time these guys are sparring.
These kind of videos are my inspiration to keep me going! It sure ain't easy for me at 5'11 245 pounds, but guys like Ramon at 280 pounds make it look easy and that gives me strength.
I like how Jeff REALLY urgently tries to get out of the way when Bouncers "searching paw" is on him. If a guy can put his palm on your shoulder or bicep he can FEEL you move before he sees it AND he is also in power striking range.
When he rushes with a barrage of punches you step off line and land a hook to the body with either hand finishing with a hook to his head on that blind side. You look great against the big guy. He’s very fast wow!!!!
I am VERY impressed with the utterly different look, feel, and utility of this kind of production. Fuckin' A!! ✅✅✅ MARVELOUS content, brotha - 👏 - you just got another one. Will continue to tune in now... 👍👍👍
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Jeff this video is one of the most beautifull. Great defense. I wish you would do more of those instead always going for the top dog. :)
the contact in here was not expected! you guys exchanged some solid knocks. Gave me a lot of insight into the approach with such a weight difference. Have you ever been to City League Coffee in Bay Ridge?
The bouncer reminds me of a side boss that has that one annoying move you can’t block but only evade and is extremely annoying because one punch you loose half if not all health points
lmaoo accurate
haha cheers!
@@Boxbeat666 keyboards are very deceptive! Happy Friday
@@NROhvac nick. Your accurate ass breakdown let's any REAL fighter know you're in fact a FIGHTER that loves fighting games. Lol
I don't even know you and I can tell. Lol
Like Abobo from the Double Dragon games lol
When pro athletes breakdown their sparring like this, it always reminds me of how massive is the gap between us amateurs (even though I've been training for more than 5 years) and them.
Indeed, the skill gap between untrained, hobbyist, amateur and pro is simply staggering. What's crazier is that even among pros there is yet another huge gap between bottom ladder vs top ranked fighters.
Lol right? There are levels to it. Super easy for beer belly dudes to say "I could do that"
@@jeffl4663 yeah, crazy world we live in. Sky is the limit.
@@jeffl4663 BJ Penn lost a street fight 🤣
@@jayc5248 BJ is notorious for being the most undisciplined prospect in MMA. Him losing to a guy half his size after so many KO losses, it's not surprising. Sad to see rare talent go to waste
Great breakdown, that’s a good example of a big tough dude. It’s not a beautiful technical back and forth but he seems as dangerous as anybody you’ve been up against. Cool vid thanks as always Jeff!
thanks man!!
👍💪
I think the technique is there, just the athleticism/flexibility to employ them isn’t. If that dude lost 20-30lbs and improved his flexibility, I think his technique would show better
@@BigCountry-df9rj he’s very good, trading head movement with Jeff is no joke.
@@BigCountry-df9rj 20-300 pounds lmao
Always scary when a big dude rushes toward you and your strikes don't seem to hurt him as much as his would. Great composure, Jeff. Your movements are beautiful!
haha yeah! and thanks man!!
Haha
Can’t agree more
Yep, and if they have good footwork or speed they're a bloody nightmare.
The most dangerous opponent out there is a big guy who can do little guy shit.
Pretty impressive how fast and explosive this big guy is, great sparring sessions
thanks for watching!!
Yeah I was so impressed by his head movement as well
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@@jjun2891 🙏💪
not reall big guy is slow
When I used to train with Muay Thai atlhetes here on Brazil in King Thai (training center where Amadeu Cristiano came from) my former trainer always saying to me when we used to spar with heavyweight atlhetes : "hit and get out,don't trade"( in brazilian language:"bate e sai,não fica trocando").
Now I know what he was talking about thanks by you Jeff.
I have been watching your videos for 3 years,keep it up,U made my sparring sessions better.
Be safe,be healthy,wish you the best always!
thank you for the support man!
Brazilian language? You mean Portuguese? 😂
I’m 6ft and 265, built quite a bit like this guy and train MT. Don’t see much representation of this body type in MT videos so nice example of what some skill can look like at this size.
Thank you very much, Ramon is very talented!
I’m 6ft and 175. I’m a cardio machine.
Holy geezus! I wouldn't fight you with a bat!! LOL
@@RoRockerB Lol 😂
@@Gdawg0331 💪💪🥊
What sucks about being a smaller, shiftier fighter going against a big guy like this is that they start to go harder when they feel they're losing. As the smaller guy, I land alot more of attacks when we're going like 50%, b/c going 50% usually makes the bigger guy even slower, so then they start to get frustrated when they're landing barely anything and you keep touching them up. In an effort to move faster, they throw harder, and at some point there's a threshold where your like, "hey man, don't kill me" 😂.
hahahah cheers!
You make a great point! I worked at a gym for awhile and one of my coworkers(much smaller than me), wanted to do western boxing sparring. Myself being larger and using kickboxing, figured it was a good way to get better at just hands, so i agreed. I feel bad cause when he started landing alot on me, i decided to just march forward(fast), take whatever he did and just nail him. Welllll, he saw that coming. So everytime i got frustrated, he got really evasive. I remember thinking.."wow is it this obvious to him, what im trying to do when i get frustrated 🤔?"
so the big guy can't use his advantage but you can use yours? sparring much smaller ppl kinda sucks sometimes
@@manfrombritain6816 I mean I get it, which is why I have to remind them that this light sparring is fake in a way, but it has its uses (combos, movement, range, timing, etc), but it's lacking that real fight contact which changes everything. The second those big dudes start hitting you for real, you realize how fragile you are 😂
@@dylan112588 I see alot of this in the video. I don't like to fight with these big guys, go for a choke leave them on the floor 😂
I've been sparring partners that are about 240+ lbs., one of them working in tactical security, and even though they're thankfully controlled, it is yet another reminder of how much size and strength absolutely matter in a fight, which makes total sense why that line of work employs people of that size; you really wouldn't want to mess with them in real life lol for training purposes, it has taught quite a few things that I am working on, not the least of which is being even more disciplined about my guard and defense, while at the same time biting down and attacking under stress and pressure, a feeling one normally wouldn't get sparring smaller partners as one could get away with a lot more with superior height and reach.
I'm a huge 5'-7" behemoth at 137 lbs! Everyone I sparred or fought was always bigger than me! I never fooled myself into that trap where one thinks that just because you train in various martial arts that you'd beat an average person who had size and weight against you.
Just sparring untrained people wakes you up to that reality! They are able to hit you because they're awkward and they hit harder because they aren't as controlled. LOL
That's why I also train in edged weapons/force multipliers. Use my speed and foot work (if I had to). But mainly drop the ego and never try and get into dumb situations. Anyway, great vid! Much respect to Jeff n the nimble big guy!
haha yeah definitely!!!
Training with bigger guys will always teach you more than a smaller guy. Training vs smaller guy just feeds your ego because it's so easy to dominate them.
Yeah most definitely. But if you’ve got good wrestling and jujitsu. You can use that against a bigger opponent. But I think with striking a bigger guys gonna have an advantage
When you get to be 77 years old like me you just carry an equalizer.
Man this was really cool to watch. You're both bobbing and weaving fantastically. Both very mobile, both have great endurance. Thanks for sharing with us!
thanks for watching!!
In my utmost humble opinion.
What I truly appreciate about Jeff’s proficiency, is his ability to adapt accordingly in regards to his opponents, this again is an testament to his overall experience, we can observe the same with other high level practitioners, Saenchai for one
( He usually fights above his weight class).
One of the key factors to be able to “Dominate” An larger/ heavier/ stronger opponent is the ability to absorb/ deflect/ redirect the energy, avoiding direct confrontation:going force against force
( As doing so against a stronger individual will indeed be an losing battle) Many south East Asian systems purport/ encourage this, ie:
“ You can’t move him? Then move yourself” A good clincher/ grappler utilizes the same tactics, frame/s/ structural sound foundation with sublime tactility/ sensitivity, to find the path of least resistance, andJeff, again, applies and utilizes the aforementioned tactics impeccably.
Always an honor to be able to observe and learn from such an peer as yourself Jeff.
Sincere regards.
Fellow Martial Artist.
Tom Framnes.
Norway.
thank you for your support my friend!
Ramone has skills and control. Impressive evasion and strikes on your part too! Dodging the numerous strikes in those long combos he threw at you does not look easy.
he is very skilled!!
Thank you. Ramon loves martial arts and is a great guy. 👍💪🥊💯
As a relatively smaller guy (5'9'' 180lbs) I love sparring against the big boys. It always reminds me not to get too big for my britches. Size does matter. I would have no hope, other than fighting EXTREMELY dirty, against Ramone. As you showed, you could be great and dodge 20 punches, and hit with 20, but one from him will equal 20 of ours lol.
We have a big guy at our dojo. 6'2'' 260lbs, and when he charges forward, I still get a big scared lol. I have to check his knees or dodge and parry around his backside fast or its over.
Great vid as usual Jeff, great to see you back at the JKD school.
thank you brother :)
It’s rare when a smaller dude can hold his own against a heavyweight, and if they do hold their own it’s because their power is unreal for their size. Canelo is a good example of a small guy who went up too much in weight and tried to overachieve. (Respect to canelo) but size definitely matters
Mike Tyson has entered the chat 🤣 5" 10 220 KOing 6"6 270 lb monsters on the daily
@@1gadena at one point, the amount of power needed to KO or rock any dude has been met, regardless of their size. It's not like they got much bigger HP tank because they are bigger. The offense might be much higher but at one point, the human body can just take so much... a clean punch from Mike Tyson can drop any man on Earth regardless of their size...
"Some spice, as the Argentinas call it"
That was a good episode 😂 I hope I'm not the only one that caught that reference 💯
LOL you are awesome !
@@MMAShredded I'm a huge fan bro. I've learned a lot from watching your videos 👊🏼 keep up the great work 💯😤
@@ramirezkid112 Us too.
Great reference lol.
Jajajaja
This is a great example of what is sometimes required in terms of opponent and intensity, for a quality and rigerous pressure test. Also, it reveals the reality of why we have weight classes in open-trade sports (boxing, mma, etc). Coming from a martial arts background, its exactly this sort of environment and opponent that reveals the challenges that self-defense, "technique based" systems must necissarily come up against when it comes to effective application of skill in extremis. Despite the training, experience, cardio, strength, speed, etc that Jeff has learned and earned...a bigger opponent is more than just a bigger target. When technique levels are closer to similar, there's not a huge reduction in somebodies quickness and reaction speed despite the very real increase in muscle and nerve fiber, bone density, and sheer mass...so no matter what eight winds fist you might practice or whatever dojang guru you learned froms' lineage...its gonna take more than what you might have in terms of literal physical characteristics to overcome.
not to say that that their arent any. all this to say that technique and skill are not levels to be matched against physical characteristics directly; but multiplying factors for them running along fine lines of deliniation.
Os, Jeff.
well said brother, thank you for watching!!
Just noticed how astoundingly long the bouncer's arms are! Usually, stocky guys also have average/short reaches. I'm built similarly- 70 inches tall, but nearly 75 inches reach. I'm also a little heavy too, often over 200 lbs. It was refreshing for me to see a spar against someone with a build as awkward (in my opinion). Anyway, great video as usual.
Wow. This is evidence that a big guy with less experience that a lighter pro fighter can be dangerous. Gone are the days when everybody believed that a small martial artist can whip any big guys butt. The reality is different.
Good video Jeff, you realy are a true combatant.
His stamina and skill are surprising. So many good fighters out in the world that not many would know about.
Oh yeah def. Love seeing talent no matter what martial art.
yes!
The big guy moves very well for his size and it is nice to see a bouncer who still keeps himself fit and trained.
cheers!
Looked like a good dude. Good sparring rounds. Your head movement is sick, Jeff!
thanks man!!
Ramon is awesome and yes Jeff is a slippery fish!
I'm a big (old) guy who now trains mainly in boxing and I must say Ramone is rather scary 😟🤗 A big man that has some agility and knowlege/experience.
I like the point where you mention being patient and waiting for a punch. That's when I feel most confident and in control of a fight. Calm down, relax and see what's coming. You gotta have something to work with before you know what you're up against, and usually where there is a punch there is also an opening for a counter.
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Wow awesome video coach! Being a smaller guy myself and having felt what it’s like to engage with bigger dudes, watching this gave me serious anxiety lol, one clean punch controlled or not is dangerous, great job and great video, very much enjoyed it
Yup, Ramon is scary :)
thanks for watching brother!
The effort and time that you spent for the details of your videos are just impressive! Keep it up! Love your channel, man!
thank you man!!
Blitz master. Could be some heavy consequences in a real fight with his head is left wide open
If you set it right, it'll be fine
I mean if he is fighting someone his size then yeah, but most of the time he probably can just eat the punch, while you are open and counter and you'll be the one KTFO
A guy his size can probably get away with it against anyone under 200 lbs
Big guy knows his stuff. A regular guy may not be able to hit him easily
For sure he moves well he’s explosive, he’ll demolish 99 percent plus of people out there. However he can def up his game by adding some versatility.
My bro is 6’3 250, ex college football player and thought he would come in and crush everyone by rushing with straight punches. He got humbled to say the least.
When Jeff sparrs with big guys, it looks as if he spares them. It's crazy how good you are, man!
thanks man!
Great video. You were in control of the Boxing round, slipping most of his shots and landing a lot of your own. The Muay Thai round looked a lot closer. For such a big guy, he has fantastic movement and stamina.
Ramon was a football player in college and is currently a stunt man in some very well known productions, especially one of Jeff’s favorite, Power.
thanks man!
Subbed! As an ex amateur boxer I want to comend you on the breakdowns but even more for your respect for your opponent and humbleness that only a true fighteer has (not always obviously).
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Nice 👍 I remember training 15 20 years ago in a Muay Thai gym and even the big guys who some had no technique but they're so much mass behind a kick or a punch that s*** would rock ya like a tree trunk falling on you.
haha cheers!
Bouncer is light on his feet for such a big guy. Impressively explosive movement and power
Love watching these breakdowns, I learn something new every time 😌🤙🏿
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Love Jeff’s breakdowns. Super informative.
The big guy is talented and very heavy handed and fast…..your footwork movement timing and range distance was great….you are also very composed and tough 👍
When i was a teenager for the past 10 years i thought kung fu is the best, BUT After i become an adult I'm interested in the Mixed Martial Arts as the most realistic and dynamic form of fighting. Thanks for the learning you share with us sir 👍
cheers!!
kung fu+kyokushin+muay thai
You are the man, incredible job on your part! How do you even fight a monster like that?!! Wicked job steering clear of those massive arms!
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I’d be scared to fight someone big who moves that fast 😆. Jeff this was great! Can we please have more videos of you sparring with guys like this please?
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I loved it Jeff so awesome. Nice work keeping it playful and technical!
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Well done Jeff. Teeping constantly on a guy that runs in always works as well as the peek a boo (tyson) method. Appreciate that you are so honest about your videos no ego there. Great work.
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thanks man!
@@MMAShredded you're welcome
Jeff, I am amazed! U da man! Taking on all kinds of sizes, styles and high level artists...... Bravo!!!!
Hey Jeff, love your channel! Great breakdown, very helpful for me as I’m usually the smaller guy.
I have a question about your head movement. I see you lean over your waist when dipping. I see a lot of boxers do that too, but I was taught never to do that in Muay Thai because you can eat knees and kicks from there. How do you dip like that while still evading kicks and knees?
it is definitely risky but try not to repeat the same pattern . Dominick cruz does it a lot too but he mixes it up!
@@MMAShredded Thank you!
@@MMAShredded 💯💥
I love your channel. The fact that you are respectful and explaining what is going on is great. Thank u, sir.🙏
thank you!!
Great stuff, as always. It's amazing how weight plays such a crucial role. You are obviously more skilled, but if he decided to go full power, that would be it. You can't "block" strikes with such power/weight behind them....a guy his size cracked my ribs with a body shot during sparring and I had actually blocked by tucking my elbow to my hip...still, the force was enough to cause damage.
haha yeah !!!
Size matters but speed kills too. Jeff’s very dangerous as well.
The best thing is to have both size and good speed.
@@NYMartialArtsAcademy Yeah, but Jeff couldn't inflict the damage this guy could have inflicted if they went full contact. Weight divisions exist for a reason. For example a normal sized 13 year old, couldn't really knock you out, no matter how fast and skilled they are. I have sparred big guys - leg kicks don't even register, and yes, you could KO them (in theory) if you caught their chin the right way, but it is most likely they will destroy you first before you get the opportunity to do so. Realistically, you could only dominate them on the ground and go for a good choke (as the dynamics change and they can't hit you as easily) but still, it's highly unlikely...
@@panostsak Not necessarily. You have sparred big guys as we all have, but you're not Jeff,. In an actual fight (either street or professional fight) people will do things different than in sparring. I've sparred smaller faster guys that dont hurt me in sparring, but in a real fight at full speed, full force, it takes just one shot to shut out the lights. Dont think that Jeff isnt holding back too here. What makes these sparring rounds so interesting is how talented and skilled Ramone is WITH his size.
As a bigger (and now relatively old) guy (6', 230) in JKD who focuses on speed, power, and accuracy, I am very impressed by this fighter. He has great movement as well as stamina - with a slight waist trimming he would be even more capable. The "punch and run" technique from the "smaller guy" here makes good sense. Thanks for this video.
Perfect example of size in a fight. It’s a legit variable outside of sports. Love the channel man!
Exactly, people forget there are no weight classes or rules in a fight outside.
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Proves Bruce could face bigger opponents. This dude is not only big but has moves. Jeff's a beast.
Man i am shocked at how size neutralizes skill at some point, The largest guys i have sparred thus far are 300-315 pounds, thing is these guys only had good boxing and one had boxing+Bjj down, thing is i have a ton of tactics with big men that i always employ and they work like a system so i was shocked to see you struggling here like legit. Someday i'll meet a 280 pound beast like this guy too though so i will be ready just for incase great vid man.
thanks for watching man!
Them heavyweights are no joke man😂
This dude is a UNIT! I'd imagine with a little more time and technical work, he'd take that size and natural durability into a seriously dangerous set of skills. Cheers, Jeff!
thanks for watching!!
When someone blast forward like that, is sidestepping around him not a better option? Fx stepping to his right or left with your whole body. Forcing him to stop going forward. Especially when he gains momentum it's hard to stop that and just turn to his side where you are now. It could create some new openings to explore. Do it again and again when needed. Either right away or Evade backwards in the beginning and suddenly move around him. There are many ways to do it right, even while striking etc. There is also many ways to screw this up so be careful. I mean sidestepping about or under 90 degrees according to his forward line, perhaps under his strike and small cirkel around him sharply. Just an idea for more counter options against the forward barrage of punches😊. His rear leg is the easiest side to get around him. Bc when he steps with that leg it's harder to get around.
Yeah you got the right idea it’s just hard to do that in the moment especially if your trying to slip punches like Jeff is cause your planting your feet when you slip. That’s why when a guy is moving his head a lot you can usually hit the body pretty’s easily.
OR......as soon as he rushes forward you can stop him dead in his tracks with a sidekick to the face 🤷. I've ended fights like this
@@JNIGHTification 2 things. First, not as easy you make it sound, 2nd you land a big head kick and its gym war
@@cameronpenoyer3242 That dude has never fought lmao. Doesn't even know the first thing about sparring.
When someone blasts like that with chin high in the air, hands low that is easy KO. You just wait for him and counter with big right hand.
I really like your sparring breakdowns man
thank you!!
The rythm of the big dude is a reason of why he's so effective
Yes, Ramon is a smart fighter who uses broken rhythm, speed and power to his advantage.
@@NYMartialArtsAcademy he quickly understood his opponent and he disturbed Jeff a lot by pressuring him . Jeff lost his ability to compose . We can clearly see that this guy know how to fight even with a superior technical opponent . I guess he got a street fight sight IQ
cheers!
this was by far one of your greatest videos . much love Jeff
thank you brother!
4:04 There was an opportunity for a knee right there Champ!
In a street fight a bouncer that has skills from 3 techniques is priceless. His strength alone gives him great value in his field.
great video my dude...props to your opponent he has great cardio for someone his size...👍🏻
yeah!! hes amazing!!
Yes and since this video he has lost 15-20lbs. He jogs and trains. We’re proud of his progress
For a guy his size, Ramon is in fabulous shape and his skills are very good. He'd be a tough guy to beat if a clubber ever started something. Very impressive.
I had a training partner that size that was a lineman in Alabama on a full ride in the early 00's! He too was a bouncer. MMA was still developing, and I was never as good as you, but it was eye opening!
Dude's half-hearted jab was like a committed cross from a lot of guys my weight (145lbs fighting and 155 walking around), the difference in our left hooks was hilarious... I could use kick boxing to hold him off for a while. Then, inevitably, I'd wear out....
I wasn't in your shape though; I could make two or three, 2 -3 minute rounds, before he could just run me over and I couldn't avoid his shots or sweeps well enough to be worth while. I'd beg to work with guys closer to my size then... 😆
Off camera, did he try to grapple and ground and pound you more? I know his instructors didn't want him screwing up their seminar, but you have way more skill than I had-- I'd love to see how that would go!
haha no he was a very nice guy!
loved the video, cheers Jeff. This opponent had a presence of 'real' and dangerous. Great to see sparring between different body types/weights. Envy both fighters' skills
thank you!!
The big guy has amazing cardio for his size!
Yup, Ramon is a freak
yeah!!
Ramone has the goods to take care of business , sir you have the elusiveness like mayweather . Great vid. Thanks for sharing.
The Bouncer was actually really fast at regrouping / countering. I kept being surprised at how often he matched Jeff step for step.
yeah he is so fast!!
Dude's probably good at his job then
@@Lorendrawn oh yeah. Works best clubs in NYC
@@MMAShredded Lol big mamajamma can move.
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Jeff, you are so good. Wonderful video as always!
Usually big guys can't really fight.
But if you meet a big guy who can fight as well (like this one), you are f**ed... :S :D
he is dangerous af!!!
Yup
Your breakdowns are legendary.
Many times, we don't have the opportunity of perspective
thank you brother!!
Yup.
that was a trained bouncer, and some guys act like lifting more weight can make them fight better lol
cheers!
Strength is very important - especially in a street fight. So yes, lifting more weight makes you a better fighter. Ramsey Dewey spoke about it in his videos a lot.
@@smokinjoe1264 lol, you miss the point, i said without training lifting weight will not get you better at fighting than shitting in a toilet
@@khonyeleaglefergumedov9175 no, I exactly have said, that even without martial arts training a person, who lifts a lot, is going to be far more dangerous in a street fight, that a person without training both. Sometimes even a very strong person can challenge a martial artist in a street fight, but of course there are levels.
This guy is extremely impressive. I’m no where near as heavy as him but there I was coping and thinking I can’t be fast because I’m "too big". Need those reminders☝🏻
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Fighting smart and humble big guys is the best. My cousin and I used to spar in boxing and he had about 3 inches and 100-120 pounds on me. I had a lot more experience but despite this he was still able to demonstrate restraint and it was a great learning experience.
I'll tell you something, both of these guys are in good shape! The average person is unaware of the level of conditioning that is required to go a fraction of the time these guys are sparring.
These kind of videos are my inspiration to keep me going! It sure ain't easy for me at 5'11 245 pounds, but guys like Ramon at 280 pounds make it look easy and that gives me strength.
cheers!
Man that bouncer isn’t just strong he’s technical as well. This was an entertaining sparring match . 👏🏾
yeah!! cheers!
I like how Jeff REALLY urgently tries to get out of the way when Bouncers "searching paw" is on him. If a guy can put his palm on your shoulder or bicep he can FEEL you move before he sees it AND he is also in power striking range.
Great video, excellent commentary.
Really interesting sparring session. The weight difference really exposes something we should know about.
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Very nice. That guy is real quick for a huge dude and has great skills. That's an opponent!
Jabbing to the body is overlooked!!! NEVER go backward in a straight line.
its always great to see sparring with active resistance from the opponent because its much more effectively applied to real life situations.
These videos really highlight how technical and analytic fighting is. I love it!!
Jeff’s fight IQ is through the roof
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Wow he’s a fast and accurate fighter. Gj to you both
cheers!
Didn’t used to be your biggest fan, but wow, you have grown, great spar👍🙏
thanks lol
That’s not a regular bouncer. He actually has skill and a gas tank.
yeah!
this was awesome, nice editing and breakdown, subscribing
thank you!!
Great video and commentary. A lot of good points
Jeff! Jeff! We are not worthy! Thanks for the video. You crazy man!
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Man you are a ballerina out there. Love the head movement and footwork
thank you!!
He has great cardio for how heavy he is! He blitzed a whole lot and didn’t look that tired
I appreciate your humility, Jeff.
thanks man!!
Your ability 2 slide away from punches is excellent
Great sparring Ramon is in great shape
Ramon has fantastic movement, but even more so for 280lbs!
Lovely session Jeff thanks for posting.
Thanks man!
bid dude had great stamina as well for his size
When he rushes with a barrage of punches you step off line and land a hook to the body with either hand finishing with a hook to his head on that blind side.
You look great against the big guy. He’s very fast wow!!!!
I am VERY impressed with the utterly different look, feel, and utility of this kind of production. Fuckin' A!! ✅✅✅
MARVELOUS content, brotha - 👏 - you just got another one.
Will continue to tune in now... 👍👍👍
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Good sparring. Ramoan seems like such a nice guy lol
That low kick after the right cross is definitely one of you signature strikes 👍
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So respectful. Very nice to see!
cheers!
Nice work Jeff! Dude is a beast! I love watching you spar man, great video and breakdown. Keep em comin
thank you bro!!
I knew this bouncer did karate just by looking at his straight punches.
Compared to everyone who isn’t an elite MMA fighter/pro boxer, These guys are both very skilled fighters actually. Always looks easy if your not in it
If he was fighting somebody his size he wouldn’t be blitzing like that.
Big guy moves like a light weight. Awesome video!
ramon cardio is good for being 280lbs going at it like that being so composed.
he is very good~
Watching your sparing is better than most of fights in TV
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Jeff!!! You dont do boring videos🤣 Another great job!
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thank you!!