A common customer scam in the pressure washing business. This scam is also common in the influencer world. Follow my page to keep up with all sides of pressure washing!
I'd give him a choice,... pay me now or make at least 5 of your friends book a cleaning appointment with me within the next 3 months,.. failing to do so will cost you more than you'd ever wanna pay, so choose wisely. \o/
The easiest way to deal with is say sure, let me call and see if my landlord, bank, credit card company etc will let me pay my bills in "exposure bucks", that usually shuts them up.
Here's what you do. You give your quote for the driveway, and if 10 of his friends/family come to you, saying he referred them, give him a very generous discount or free driveway on his next appointment.
Nope! One can easily get 10 people to agree to their bs scam. Everyone gets a discount after 4 or 5 friends and family agree to a contract for your service. The initial person gets it free-something like that. Otherwise, they can kick rocks.
@@abumansaray7 that's exactly what I mean. I've been doing this with "influencers" for years. They come to me thinking they can get free stuff. They pay up front and I give them their own 10% ish coupon code for my business. If I get 10 or more orders using that particular coupon code, I refund the "influencer's " order. Six years and over 100 coupons issued, I have yet to pay out one refund.
@@abumansaray7no no, if you give the stipulation that 10 contracted/completed jobs will award them a free driveway certificate you can guarantee 10 extra jobs for 1 free… who cares if they are just trying to scam, it still gives you business in the long run
When I had an HVAC business thats exactly how I played it. If I actually got refered business I did give them a credit next time. Though that very seldom happened.
@@BouncyBrownyup. It’s basic referral system. You make the customer work for you by promoting you. In their head they’re thinking that they will get free wash but the business owner gets free promotion rather than paying for it himself.
Call their bluff - Offer them a referral gift for each completed and paid in full jobs - if they don’t immediately agree , you know they had no faith that they could get you additional business !
This ^ was my first thought as well. I'd be worried that the cheapskate's friends and family might be cheapskates too, especially if they heard you're a pushover.
Plus, even if he does, do you want the cheapskate who’s trying to milk you for free work telling all his cheapskate friends and cheapskate family about you giving him free service? Even if he does give referrals, it’s probably just gonna be more people who want free work
I owned an automotive repair business for 18 years and i heard this all the time. " Ive been sending a lot of people up here to get their cars fixed ..so i need a discount ". I told them, thank you and I'm sure your friends are grateful for being referred to an honest and competent mechanic.
@@Good-VS-Evil777 Honestly, nope. I don't understand your ideology because I think you're wrong. The average Gen Z child had a cell phone in their hand at age 8. Raising your children on an iPad makes them into crazy people who constantly need validation and attention. Kids who aren't raised like that don't turn out like TikTok attention whores(MOST aren't. Some are.) Secondly, more and more children are being raised in poverty. This leads to violent crime and gang violence. Hence why crime rates have only gone up since the 2008 market crash. Poverty also causes children to lack higher education, which leads to worse job equality and income. It's also easier than ever to get a gun, even if you're a minor(just ask Kyle Rittenhouse how he got his gun). Lastly, Gen Z hasn't "destroyed the country." If anything, they're trying to save it. The middle class Gen-Z is moving away from age-old tradition in order to appeal to ALL of our futures. Tradition keeps things the same. Innovation is void in a traditional society. They're fighting for OUR rights instead for multi-billion dollar corporations that want to bleed this world dry of all natural resources in order to make a quick buck. Also, there's nothing wrong with being gay. I'm sorry if you disagree with that, but it's really none of my business either way. I'm not going to tell you how you should live your life, however: personally, I would suggest you take a step back and try to view the younger generation with a bit more empathy. They are our future. While I do agree that many are troubled, cringe, jaded, and even monsters; here's just a quick reminder that the VAST majority of Gen-Z are just normal people doing normal things with normal lives. The few have never spoken for the many. P.S. Wouldn't you hate it if your parents told all of their friends that you were going to disappoint them and ruin the world? You're essentially doing that with an entire generation. That's not very Christian of you.
@@fomoranso do the ten people that died in the Bronx due to a fire that was burning that night that killed ten people during a fire and fire officials said that all ten people died from the fire which was burning and too hot for their bodies.
@@elisemiller13 so, to my point, they did NOT want to pay for the driveway but if the business did it for free, they get a long list of cold call customers who are probably just like their “gimmie” friend. OR would they want to NOT give private information and “give EVERYONE the business number” instead? I’ve worked in customer service for a very long time. It’s a very valid question to ask a client. If you won’t pay me except in friends names, what are they going to pay me with…friends names? On the other hand, do all your friends buy everything you tell them to? I damn sure don’t. So, if you feel that the “high road” is needed in this case and free services are needed to soothe a customer’s feathers after quoting what the owner seems a fair price for service, customer service may be a bit much for you. The customer is not always right and in these cases, if he got ONE linked client from this, it would be amazing because it normally doesn’t happen at all.
Why on earth would they offer you a tip???? THIS IS THE PROBLEM BUD… everyone and their grandmas are asking for tips when you have NO BUSINESS doing so for you’re like or work… at least I GUARANTEE you’ll be out of business in 3 years 💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@brianduca2958 Yep. "What?! You charge for driveways? I heard it was included when you pay to get the house done. What a rip off!". Hmm, I wonder where they heard that...
There is that Greek proverb that goes like this "show me your friend and I'll tell you who you are". If you aren't willing to pay, why would your friends be?
@@commenter621 "I don't want work 'given to me' from people who don't pay." It's a little more awkward in this sentence, since 'by people' would be better here, but in the original sentence, this is what they meant by 'from people'.
Same in the art field, and mechanics. Once people know you have a skill, they will try and take advantage of you because "it's easy for you" or because they'll "give you customers". Never under sell your services.
Hate those types of people so much. They feel that because you are able to fix something quick and efficiently and make it look easy that they shouldn't have to pay you what your price was. Like the reason I can do it so quick is because of the years I've spent learning those skills. If it's easy then how about they do it. I had a lady want me to maintenance on her AC, so I told her I'd do it for $60 she got upset and said this other guy always did it for $40. So I said whatever took $20 off. After I was done she said wow you did way more than what the other guy does and she gave me a $5 tip. Absolute slap in the face.
You would be absolutely right, if it were in those fields you just talked about, you know, fields that require ACTUAL SKILL and training. But this guy's services aren't precisely valuable. He just owns a pressure washer.
@@HolywaffleMCthis isnt even deep, it’s just common sense and completely normal to assume. Someone scammed you so their friends, if the customer called them, prob want a free job too
It's always the ones that have the finances that try to beat you. I've had other customers jump in and try to help me and I've had to tell them that they were paying me already. Goes to show you someone's true character.
Every single time. It's always the ones with money who will barter the hell out of you, or ask for free work. I've had customers on both ends, ones with 6 figure salaries and those with A LOT less and live in the poorer side of town, those are the ones who were always the most generous, never bartered and even gave gifts for Xmas etc
What is there to fall for? They asked for free services... Thats not a scam, its entitled, but not something you can "fall for"... Its not a fucking trick of the light or slight of hand, its asking for free stuff
@@OryXityIt's a scam because they very rarely hold up their part in the deal. Chances are they are going to brag about it. "Hey I got this sucker to do my driveway for free!"
The kind of people who appreciate your service enough to make a point of mentioning your name aren't the kind of people who make bogus promises to you.
Just make it universal driveway cleaning care. The government's monopoly on private spending has been proven to reduce prices, increase quality, and provide an overall positive net to society. At least that's what people with zero economic knowledge said.
Not always true. I used to tell upfront to car shops that I drove a ton, and honestly after the shit service from many of them, now I just go to the dealership only cause fuck em small shops. I drive like 40-50k miles a year, so that's me in the shop every 2 months or less.
Yep, usually the case. Same with folks who call in to complain about something - the ones who mention how they've "spent thousands with you" and so deserve special treatment almost always only have a handful of orders on file rarely even breaking $1000 in total sales.
I used to own a small home studio where I would make musical arrangements for people who wanted their lyrics put to music. I'd give them a price per song and they would haggle under the promise they would bring lots more songs to work on down the road. I would then tell them that for every 3 songs they payed at my regular price the next two would have a discount, never free. Some would not come back because they wanted my work for free.
I'm a landlord and occasionally I'll get a comment that almost always starts like this..."hey, so...I'm pretty handy. Would you be interested in me doing work around the apartment and then I could take the money off the rent?" I always say, "no." Literally, just "no." I'm not rude about it, but the last thing I need is an unlicensed and uninsured "contractor" doing unpermitted work that I didnt want done in the first place without the benefit of getting multiple bids, and them then thinking it's worth 5x the actual market value, for inferior work and/or materials that takes 3x longer than it should to be completed. You would not believe the number of people (actually you might, lol) who are offended or act like I'm an @$$h0le for not considerilng this offer. My other favorite is the people who don't qualify, typically for not one, but several metrics, who tell me they plan on making more money IN THE FUTURE and that there's a good chance they'd be willing to pay EVEN MORE than the rent I'm asking...because you know how people always start making more money and then decide to gift it to their landlord when they most likely already lack fiscal responsibility and/or competency. I say most likely because it's possible for anyone to fall on hard times but the people who do, and are responsible typically aren't shopping for apartments they can't afford and promising future income to 3rd parties.
People do that. I had a lawn care client legit tell me that everyone compliments his yard so I should be willing to do the extras, as if it wasn't my work they were complimentary of. He was off my schedule shortly after that conversation. He has yet to find an adequate replacement 😂😂
@@PotatobrianbrainSpfft. DJs will be using AI and machine learning. AI is a tool to bolster their jobs. It’s like when people were saying Zbrush was going to replace Stan Winston Studios. Hahaha. They started using Zbrush in their workflow to make their projects even better. It never replaced them. It became a part of their toolset. Adapt or die.
Im a Visual artist and Clients often say the same thing. If you agree with customer's words, youre only degrading your time and value in front of a person whos just scamming you
Self employed for 30 years in construction. Heard that many times. Also heard they could find someone cheaper. I thanked them for their time and said bye.
If they could find someone cheaper then that's who would be there to start with. I was self employed myself for many many years & my price is my price.
@@1claytoncampbellAt this Type of Business? In these Times? In this Part of the World?😂 Bro, Reality called. Plumbers, Welders, Electricians- Its like printing Money.
As a musician, I get the exact same thing. "We thought you could do it for the exposure, and we'll tell other people about you." Yea, that trick really gets old. I make sure I get every detail in writing and include they pay half up front and half when I get there, not after the performance. It also seems like the richer the person, the more they'll try to scam you.
It happens to me too. I paint, I try to keep my prices competitive. But I stand by all my work and will return if something needs attention. Customer service is most important!!
This dude speaks truth! Im a bathroom/kitchen remodeler and if I had a nickel for every customer who asked for a freebie in exchange for "spreading my name around" I would have a literal ton of nickels lol. People are cheap! 😂
Yeah this isn’t a scam, he just got screwed over by somebody and now he’s mad. This is actually a very legitimate way for a business to grow and well worth a few minutes of your time if possible.
As a former web designer and gfx designer, I feel you. If I had a dollar for every potential client that wanted to pay me in "exposure" and "referrals" I'd be rich af...
Good advice I've used it myself. I'm glad you didn't get swindled my friend I got into sales when I was young and did not approve of their tactics in any way shape or form. I don't like the customer screwing over people like you and I don't like company is screwing over the customer.. more power to you keep up the good work
He has no idea what he's doing. He just overlapped 8" of asphalt on the street when surface cleaning the rain gutter. So, neither you nor him know what you're doing clearly.
I know times are tough but to purposely mug someone off is disgusting. Your workmanship is 2nd to none. I hope your business continues to be successful. 🇬🇧👍🇺🇸
Seen a company do this with influencers and despite saying they will bring thousands of customers they almost always back out 😂 they only needed like 12 referrals to get a full refund on the product too. Just after free stuff 🤷🏻♂️
What I do is simple. When a customer ask for free or discounted work for the promise of a lot of future work, I tell them "I have to charge you full price now, but if you continue to give us work I will give you a discounted rate in the future." They never call back. But it does shut them up
That's exactly what my Ford dealership said to me when I inquired about buying a Ranger. They then proceeded to only offer me a $9,000 trade in & General Motors Holden offered me $15,000 trade in, so of course I went with Holden & I've been driving their car since 2014 & it's been the most reliable & trouble free car I've ever owned.
I am self-employed and I get this all the time as well. I have found that the lower middle class pay the most and refer the most. The upper classes are the worst when it comes to paying for services they request.
Nah he would likely be down to do it if he KNEW he was going to get alot of extra business for it. No shit he still has to do that work too, but it's more paying customers that he likely wouldn't have had. It's not like the "pressure washing driveways" business is in high demand... he probably barely has any customers as it is. Only problem was, like he said, they're probably full of shit and just want a free cleaning.
I used to own a weight loss facility. We used to hear this all the time. "I know a lot of people, give me a discount and I'll refer them". We fell for it a couple times then never did it again. I 100% agree with you!
Similar line of work here, but let me advice you to not make it an ego issue and instead see it as marketing cost - and a real opportunity to get easy work. I've been at it for 20 years and doing quite well because of the same clients I met decades ago. Zero need for marketing - most work comes from word of mouth. Freebies can make first-time clients feel like they are getting a great deal... and when they come back, they are more likely to pay full price without hesitation.
@@alcinnovations I couldn't care less if free work can make first-time clients feel like they are getting a great deal. You ask what they want, give them a price and make sure you get paid half of that before you start and half at the end before you deliver. And always with a contract no matter who it is. That way I make sure I don't do a second of free work. They don't have to agree. They can always find someone on fiverr, or someone that likes doing free work, as long as it isn't me
That's why you tell them to give you the names of these friends and family that will be calling you and IF they all call and set up service, you will refund their money for the driveway wash. That way, it gives them an incentive and turns them into one of your salespeople. You can even tell them if they get you xxx amount of other people to sign u for service, you will give them a discount on pressure washing the following year. Work smarter, not harder.
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw You won't find a better advocate or "salesperson" for your business than a happy and satisfied customer. They will sing your praises anytime the need for your business arises.
As a graphic designer, I’ve had so many clients say the same thing when they wanted a discount from my end. And those are the ones who end up never referring you to anyone.
Yup, you could be just a dude working on his own with a pressure washer like a teen mowing lawns in the summer and still say ‘it’s company policy’ Mostly because it’s kinda funny in that context, especially if they live a few houses down from you and know you do this yourself but it’s still true because it’s _your_ company policy Also as I type this I realize how much I overthought this
The customer is always right in matter of taste. That’s the full quote. It means even if you find something unappealing (look wise/taste wise/etc) you don’t say anything because the customer likes it that way. Let them buy it that way and get the sale. Now if they’re trying to cheat the system and get extra value or breaking some sort of policy you can absolutely tell them they’re wrong and handle them accordingly.
Tell them you’re working on a timeline and didn’t have time to do the driveway, but if a relative or friend hires you you’ll come back and do the driveway.
Back in the 80's, had a friend who had a lawn care business. Anyone who tried bargaining or wanted large discounts such as above, he walked away from the customer. If he took on that customer, he only be a continuous problem child, always wanting more, just complaining about everything and/or not paying.
EXACTLY!!!! When they tell me that I politely explain to them if i would have done that for the 30 people ahead of them, that I’d be out of business. Hence NOT BEING AVAILABLE to do their job today. No one goes to the grocery store asking for free eggs, they PAY for what they want
Not only artists. But restaurants, hotels, nail techs, hairdressers, makeup artists. Influencers always want free services for shoutouts. But the influencer has less subscribers than any of the people and businesses that they are trying to scam. A cousin of mine has a beautiful little French cuisine restaurant. And these 3 girls came in and ordered a bunch of food. And someone told my cousin in law to ask before she put the order in. You have money to pay for all this food correct? And the influencers lied and said yes. They did. As she was getting ready to put the order in. One of the girls snuck up to the server window and said don’t bother they don’t have money to pay they were going to try and get you to do it for exposure. Before she went back to her friends. She asked them not to tell them she told the truth. So she brought out the bowl of salad. And she then told them that the owner won’t drop the order until they have the proof that they will get paid for the food. So they have to pay first then he will start cooking. They flipped out and said they were going to pay the main girl said she was disgusted by the insult. Then the 3 girls all pooled their money together and they were able to afford the big salad and appetizer and their coffees. They had $25 between the 3 girls. My cousin made that the house rule. You pay for your tab then he will cook for you. He got stiffed by customers until he realized that they would pay first if he refused to cook until the money was in his hand first. Influencers are the worst.
People do this in every business. Stand your ground and hopefully you’ll never have to deal with that person as a client. You don’t want to deal with them AT ALL.
It's kind of a catch-22 because in some businesses it does actually work I'm a professional reviewer all the time I get requests to review stuff because I have a decent following and I do a good job My cost is the item I don't take payments I don't take commissions I don't charge for it you get the item to me and no cost to me if you want the item back that's fine as well as long as you pay to get it back no cost to me And it works both ways many many times I have to turn down a review item that I really want but their conditions are onerous and would compromise my integrity I'd like to be doing this 10 years from now if I compromise my integrity I'll be done in a year
People try to do that with things like this services where it doesn't quite work that way :-) so in this context he is correct stand your ground politely tell them what it costs because they're not going to be able to bring you enough business with any kind of assurance to recoup your loss if they have any intention of doing so at all
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw I'm sorry I don't understand what you're trying to say I read it many times I tried to figure out which words might be in the wrong place or could be using different words? But I can't understand what you're trying to say can you rephrase it?
Here in Mexico we have a saying: "To trust is good, but not to trust is even better". Don't believe any promises, especially from people you just met, even worse, from clients that are (sometimes on bad faith) procuring for their interests.
Bro we're like this since 300.000 years ago when humans were born. It's literally just how humans are. Self respect as a society? What are you talking about? What society? American society?
Yup. People are complete scumbags and liars. Good for you for standing your ground and not being a sucker. Always disappointing when I hear some poor soul. Paid up front for something and then got ripped off. People, yall have got to be smarter and see the world for the shit hole it is...
Ah, the ol' "Pay you with exposure" line.
Basically, what the IG influences think they are.
Sorry, the landlord doesn't accept exposure for rent!
I'd give him a choice,... pay me now or make at least 5 of your friends book a cleaning appointment with me within the next 3 months,.. failing to do so will cost you more than you'd ever wanna pay, so choose wisely. \o/
The easiest way to deal with is say sure, let me call and see if my landlord, bank, credit card company etc will let me pay my bills in "exposure bucks", that usually shuts them up.
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"do it for free and I'll let everyone know you do free work"
Dang
Exactly
With no 5 star google review as well no doubt
And they expect it every time there after.
Exactly!
One thing I learned growing up. Promises don't pay the bills.
Another old saying: money talks, BS walks
@@_Washing_Machine_ What a sassy appliance you are.
right thank you
Neither does "thank you".
Yep. Told my last boss that "atta boys" don't pay my mortgage. So glad I walked off the job lol.
You should flip it on them. Offer to clean their drive way after you receive 2 jobs referred by them
Honestly that's the best way of saying it
that's a good counter, worst case scenario u owe someone a free cleaning, after 2 jobs. Best case you avoid wasting your time entirely.
Get a sign contract from their friends and family referral and then give them the free driveway wash.
There is a better way. Charge them and promise them a 10% cut of every customer referred by them.
@@kris826330% more fair
Here's what you do. You give your quote for the driveway, and if 10 of his friends/family come to you, saying he referred them, give him a very generous discount or free driveway on his next appointment.
Nope! One can easily get 10 people to agree to their bs scam. Everyone gets a discount after 4 or 5 friends and family agree to a contract for your service. The initial person gets it free-something like that. Otherwise, they can kick rocks.
@@abumansaray7 that's exactly what I mean. I've been doing this with "influencers" for years. They come to me thinking they can get free stuff. They pay up front and I give them their own 10% ish coupon code for my business. If I get 10 or more orders using that particular coupon code, I refund the "influencer's " order. Six years and over 100 coupons issued, I have yet to pay out one refund.
Exactly. Reward action, not words.
@@abumansaray7no no, if you give the stipulation that 10 contracted/completed jobs will award them a free driveway certificate you can guarantee 10 extra jobs for 1 free… who cares if they are just trying to scam, it still gives you business in the long run
What you do is if you get me 10 more jobs at normal cost then I'll give you a discount on your driveway.
Usually, free work leads to free work. Friends would want the same deal!
@@penelopepitstop13huh
From no pay, the very, very best you can expect is very, very low pay. Your time = their money.
Exactly.
“How much did he charge you?”
“Nothing!”
“That’s a great price I’ll definitely call him…”
No doubt!!
soon as a customer offers me that I just packed my s*** up and f****** leave
Offer them a free driveway wash on the next appointment, after you get work from their friends and family.
When I had an HVAC business thats exactly how I played it. If I actually got refered business I did give them a credit next time. Though that very seldom happened.
Not true
It's a scam and most of the time you'll never get referrals from them
@@ChefWrepsThat's the point-- they'll decline this offer because they know their friends won't give him that much business if any at all.
@@BouncyBrownyup. It’s basic referral system. You make the customer work for you by promoting you. In their head they’re thinking that they will get free wash but the business owner gets free promotion rather than paying for it himself.
Call their bluff - Offer them a referral gift for each completed and paid in full jobs - if they don’t immediately agree , you know they had no faith that they could get you additional business !
So true, tell them no and they will leave a negative review.
The only way not to get a negative review is not to be online period,its how I do it.
Take before and after pictures and then respond to the negative review with them, asking what specifically they had an issue with.
@@alphzoupThats a great advice.
@@alphzoupthat's a good advice.
@@alphzoupwhat a good advice.
But if you do it for free, someone is bound to call and tell you
"But you gave Karen a free service why not me?"
This ^ was my first thought as well. I'd be worried that the cheapskate's friends and family might be cheapskates too, especially if they heard you're a pushover.
Thank you for clarifying billy.
Yep!
OMG U ARE SO RIGHT.
Bingo!
Don't assume that the customer actually has any family or friends.
Yeah, Daddy used to scam his kids out of their allowance to bet on horses. "I'll invest this for you, little Bobby."
Plus, even if he does, do you want the cheapskate who’s trying to milk you for free work telling all his cheapskate friends and cheapskate family about you giving him free service? Even if he does give referrals, it’s probably just gonna be more people who want free work
Now THAT , not only being True , is FUNNNNNNY !
True. Especially not people who are that cheap.
Don't assume -that the customer actually has any family or friends- (period)
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I owned an automotive repair business for 18 years and i heard this all the time. " Ive been sending a lot of people up here to get their cars fixed ..so i need a discount ". I told them, thank you and I'm sure your friends are grateful for being referred to an honest and competent mechanic.
This is just common sense.
Yep.you will never hear from them
@@Good-VS-Evil777 Who raised them?
Many people including my self started businesses when we were young. Hungry people fall into poor buisness practices.
@@Good-VS-Evil777 Honestly, nope. I don't understand your ideology because I think you're wrong. The average Gen Z child had a cell phone in their hand at age 8. Raising your children on an iPad makes them into crazy people who constantly need validation and attention. Kids who aren't raised like that don't turn out like TikTok attention whores(MOST aren't. Some are.)
Secondly, more and more children are being raised in poverty. This leads to violent crime and gang violence. Hence why crime rates have only gone up since the 2008 market crash. Poverty also causes children to lack higher education, which leads to worse job equality and income. It's also easier than ever to get a gun, even if you're a minor(just ask Kyle Rittenhouse how he got his gun).
Lastly, Gen Z hasn't "destroyed the country." If anything, they're trying to save it. The middle class Gen-Z is moving away from age-old tradition in order to appeal to ALL of our futures. Tradition keeps things the same. Innovation is void in a traditional society. They're fighting for OUR rights instead for multi-billion dollar corporations that want to bleed this world dry of all natural resources in order to make a quick buck. Also, there's nothing wrong with being gay. I'm sorry if you disagree with that, but it's really none of my business either way. I'm not going to tell you how you should live your life, however: personally, I would suggest you take a step back and try to view the younger generation with a bit more empathy. They are our future. While I do agree that many are troubled, cringe, jaded, and even monsters; here's just a quick reminder that the VAST majority of Gen-Z are just normal people doing normal things with normal lives. The few have never spoken for the many.
P.S. Wouldn't you hate it if your parents told all of their friends that you were going to disappoint them and ruin the world? You're essentially doing that with an entire generation. That's not very Christian of you.
@@Good-VS-Evil777lol, tru
Their friends and family will all expect free work from you, too.
Yeah lol
Right! "Well you did John's driveway for free, why not mine?"
Yeah even if they call you at all.
this is what instantly popped in my head!
"is your family going to want free work too"💩
exactly what I was thinking hah
Artists have a phrase for this: "exposure kills"
So do mountaineering nudists
@@fomoranso do the ten people that died in the Bronx due to a fire that was burning that night that killed ten people during a fire and fire officials said that all ten people died from the fire which was burning and too hot for their bodies.
@@crankfastle3061what??
Was just gonna say something like this.
right, "exposure" is never worth the money you didn't make.
Correct. Do not fall for the more work carrot. It never comes…. Ever
“Why would they be willing to pay me when you aren’t?” would be my response.
@gbooblue They did pay to have the house washed. One is advised to take the high road when dealing with customers.
tell him you are running a business not a charity
@@elisemiller13 so, to my point, they did NOT want to pay for the driveway but if the business did it for free, they get a long list of cold call customers who are probably just like their “gimmie” friend. OR would they want to NOT give private information and “give EVERYONE the business number” instead? I’ve worked in customer service for a very long time. It’s a very valid question to ask a client. If you won’t pay me except in friends names, what are they going to pay me with…friends names? On the other hand, do all your friends buy everything you tell them to? I damn sure don’t. So, if you feel that the “high road” is needed in this case and free services are needed to soothe a customer’s feathers after quoting what the owner seems a fair price for service, customer service may be a bit much for you. The customer is not always right and in these cases, if he got ONE linked client from this, it would be amazing because it normally doesn’t happen at all.
@@elisemiller13It's over your head, bud.
because im cheap 😏
I hate that response from my clients🤦🏻♂️😤
Even worst when it’s a “influencer” saying they’ll tag me in their social media instead of offering a tip
Ooh
If they are actually popular a shoutout is way more valuable than money as long as u know what to do with it
Why do i have to give you a tip when the paid you to do a job?
@@PTUS44no it’s not
Why on earth would they offer you a tip???? THIS IS THE PROBLEM BUD… everyone and their grandmas are asking for tips when you have NO BUSINESS doing so for you’re like or work… at least I GUARANTEE you’ll be out of business in 3 years 💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Always go for the money, never for the promises.
Please inform the customer that for every neighbour who orders your service, he will receive a 20 percent refund.
that's why you remain a small buisiness ran by nobody. never say never.
even for super models😅
What's a promise? (Sarcasm)
@@ylstorage7085Big businesses didn't make it big by doing labor for no money and instead just taking promises of riches.
When you get a call from their friends or family, expect that some of them will expect a work from you for free too.
Immediately what I thought
no thank you
People always love your work until they have to pay for it.
Seriously
Never worry about seeming "rude" to a rude person who's trying to get you to work for free.
Amen
Yeah its tough to change to that stance, it goes against my grain, but I've learnt to be a prick.
Trust me customers like that , you don't want to do business with their friends and family either
Because everybody wants the free deal
@@brianduca2958 Yep. "What?! You charge for driveways? I heard it was included when you pay to get the house done. What a rip off!". Hmm, I wonder where they heard that...
Deadbeats
@@RandomPerson-nd2eyi mean a driveway is a part of the house, maybe they just thought that it will be included 🤔
As a business owner I heard this a hundred times over. And your right I never heard back from anyone. Lol
"I'm not willing to pay you for your services, but I have friends that will."
Yeah that makes total sense 😳
There is that Greek proverb that goes like this "show me your friend and I'll tell you who you are". If you aren't willing to pay, why would your friends be?
👍
@@stixoimatizontas that's right 👈🏻
same phrases his friends gonna say, boom, he's in a loop of working for free
"I heard good things about you, like you work for free!"
Absolutely true. I do not want work from people who don't want to pay me.
What does work from people mean?
@@commenter621Not complain here!
BBB instead
Exactly, every service has a price, demanding simething for free is just an abuse.
@@commenter621
"I don't want work 'given to me' from people who don't pay."
It's a little more awkward in this sentence, since 'by people' would be better here, but in the original sentence, this is what they meant by 'from people'.
@@commenter621 jes talking about jooz. Only jooz try this scam.
A business is a business, you never work for free unless you're volunteering.
I’m a general contractor and here this all the time. Customers seem to think that their “referrals” are worth so much.
Same in the art field, and mechanics. Once people know you have a skill, they will try and take advantage of you because "it's easy for you" or because they'll "give you customers". Never under sell your services.
Hate those types of people so much. They feel that because you are able to fix something quick and efficiently and make it look easy that they shouldn't have to pay you what your price was. Like the reason I can do it so quick is because of the years I've spent learning those skills. If it's easy then how about they do it.
I had a lady want me to maintenance on her AC, so I told her I'd do it for $60 she got upset and said this other guy always did it for $40. So I said whatever took $20 off. After I was done she said wow you did way more than what the other guy does and she gave me a $5 tip. Absolute slap in the face.
You would be absolutely right, if it were in those fields you just talked about, you know, fields that require ACTUAL SKILL and training. But this guy's services aren't precisely valuable. He just owns a pressure washer.
This is in all the fields.
@whatthefuckallhandlesaretaken I'm an artist and my husband is a mechanic, and I only like speaking to what I know about. But I'm sure you're right.
Even if you do hear from them, the reason they are calling is because they see you as an easy mark
It's not that deep
@@HolywaffleMC if they tell their friends and family they got it for free for referring now the friends and family expect a free price too
@@HolywaffleMCthis isnt even deep, it’s just common sense and completely normal to assume. Someone scammed you so their friends, if the customer called them, prob want a free job too
You'll find out eventually. LOL @@HolywaffleMC
😂😂😂 easy mark
We all in oceans 11 now 😂😂😂
It's always the ones that have the finances that try to beat you. I've had other customers jump in and try to help me and I've had to tell them that they were paying me already. Goes to show you someone's true character.
Ain't that the truth! 💯
Tells you a lot about how they got that money, too.
Every single time. It's always the ones with money who will barter the hell out of you, or ask for free work. I've had customers on both ends, ones with 6 figure salaries and those with A LOT less and live in the poorer side of town, those are the ones who were always the most generous, never bartered and even gave gifts for Xmas etc
@@el.pincheguerorich people tend to be greedy, that’s how they got rich is by scamming and tricking people
@@el.pincheguero just be my slave ffs.
Im with the costumers.
I always say that I don't need the work, I need the money.
EPIC response!
Yes. 100% true. Never fall for this. It’s literally a miracle if they even pass your name on twice lol
Wasting water😅
What is there to fall for? They asked for free services... Thats not a scam, its entitled, but not something you can "fall for"... Its not a fucking trick of the light or slight of hand, its asking for free stuff
@@OryXityIt's a scam because they very rarely hold up their part in the deal. Chances are they are going to brag about it. "Hey I got this sucker to do my driveway for free!"
The kind of people who appreciate your service enough to make a point of mentioning your name aren't the kind of people who make bogus promises to you.
Or they pass their name on but how many people you know want their driveways cleaned at any given time?
If you cleaned it for free, their friends and family would expect their driveway cleaned for free too.
ALL PRESSURE WASHING SHOULD BE CARRIED OUT FOR FREE
@@Professor-Scientist haha
@@Professor-Scientist If you do it yourself Yes Its free! Make sure you plumb into your neighbours water line though. Then its truly free
Just make it universal driveway cleaning care. The government's monopoly on private spending has been proven to reduce prices, increase quality, and provide an overall positive net to society.
At least that's what people with zero economic knowledge said.
@@Professor-Scientistno it shouldn’t, hiring a pressure washer is a privilege for those who can afford it, you don’t need pressure washing to survive
Anytime a customer tells me they're going to have a ton of work I know instantly that they're a one timer.
Not always true. I used to tell upfront to car shops that I drove a ton, and honestly after the shit service from many of them, now I just go to the dealership only cause fuck em small shops. I drive like 40-50k miles a year, so that's me in the shop every 2 months or less.
Even if they did tell others i guarantee they would tell them about the deal they got and thats how you set a precedent of getting cheated.
Exactly cause they have a grievance or grudge to not use you now because you didn’t do what was asked 🤦
Yep, usually the case. Same with folks who call in to complain about something - the ones who mention how they've "spent thousands with you" and so deserve special treatment almost always only have a handful of orders on file rarely even breaking $1000 in total sales.
I used to own a small home studio where I would make musical arrangements for people who wanted their lyrics put to music. I'd give them a price per song and they would haggle under the promise they would bring lots more songs to work on down the road. I would then tell them that for every 3 songs they payed at my regular price the next two would have a discount, never free. Some would not come back because they wanted my work for free.
I'm a landlord and occasionally I'll get a comment that almost always starts like this..."hey, so...I'm pretty handy. Would you be interested in me doing work around the apartment and then I could take the money off the rent?"
I always say, "no." Literally, just "no." I'm not rude about it, but the last thing I need is an unlicensed and uninsured "contractor" doing unpermitted work that I didnt want done in the first place without the benefit of getting multiple bids, and them then thinking it's worth 5x the actual market value, for inferior work and/or materials that takes 3x longer than it should to be completed.
You would not believe the number of people (actually you might, lol) who are offended or act like I'm an @$$h0le for not considerilng this offer.
My other favorite is the people who don't qualify, typically for not one, but several metrics, who tell me they plan on making more money IN THE FUTURE and that there's a good chance they'd be willing to pay EVEN MORE than the rent I'm asking...because you know how people always start making more money and then decide to gift it to their landlord when they most likely already lack fiscal responsibility and/or competency. I say most likely because it's possible for anyone to fall on hard times but the people who do, and are responsible typically aren't shopping for apartments they can't afford and promising future income to 3rd parties.
And if they DO bring you friends & family work, it will all be the same penny-pinching sort of clients. Best to avoid this trap.
Yep, they'll all want a free something lol
Excellent point
You're exactly right
They acting like you should be grateful for work! 😂
People do that. I had a lawn care client legit tell me that everyone compliments his yard so I should be willing to do the extras, as if it wasn't my work they were complimentary of. He was off my schedule shortly after that conversation. He has yet to find an adequate replacement 😂😂
Good I love that. You deserve respect for your work
I'd rather be grateful for having the cash to pay my next bill.
You should be great full for work. But only the work where you get paid full price and the customer ain't trtna scam you
Naw dude, he's just kinda dumb and fell for it. This is how he's trying to save face.
As a DJ I'm very used to getting told "we'll pay you with exposure". So annoying 😂
basically the entire creative industry 😂 they always want the latest shit, cool looking stuff, the WOW effect and not paying a dime for it
Just say no❤
Same here as an artist. Definitely keep up the healthy boundaries because nobody is entitled to your labor for free.
@@PotatobrianbrainSpfft. DJs will be using AI and machine learning. AI is a tool to bolster their jobs.
It’s like when people were saying Zbrush was going to replace Stan Winston Studios. Hahaha. They started using Zbrush in their workflow to make their projects even better. It never replaced them. It became a part of their toolset.
Adapt or die.
take your meds
Im a Visual artist and Clients often say the same thing. If you agree with customer's words, youre only degrading your time and value in front of a person whos just scamming you
Remember kids- nice doesn’t pay the bills. 😊
Edit: holy crap! 6.5k likes?? I definitely wasn’t expecting that much attention lol.
The conversion rate for exposure is the same as Confederate money.
I have to remind that to my brother every time he finishes the job with pennies in his pocket and extremely happy customer added to the list.
and if you are not nice I will sure enough find another person for your job for a next time.
Fr
@@KasparOnTube being nice and being taken advantage of are two different things.
Self employed for 30 years in construction. Heard that many times. Also heard they could find someone cheaper. I thanked them for their time and said bye.
How many times did it happen? I mean at the part where they claimed they can find someone cheaper and real ?
As you struggle to feed your family I bet.
If they could find someone cheaper then that's who would be there to start with.
I was self employed myself for many many years & my price is my price.
@@1claytoncampbellAt this Type of Business? In these Times? In this Part of the World?😂 Bro, Reality called. Plumbers, Welders, Electricians- Its like printing Money.
Let the work speak for itself. If they have friends, they will find you
You live in a fantasy land.. you must’ve been watching too many Alex Hormozi videos.
@@ParkerBGtf is a Alex Hormozi
Its a driveaway cleaning service, aint nobody gonna get amazed and spread ads for you what are you 12
@@alankatsiyev3249jeez why you gotta be so negative
Very true, there's no shortage of scam artists out there, especially with the new generation
As a musician, I get the exact same thing. "We thought you could do it for the exposure, and we'll tell other people about you." Yea, that trick really gets old. I make sure I get every detail in writing and include they pay half up front and half when I get there, not after the performance. It also seems like the richer the person, the more they'll try to scam you.
Th rich people are the cheapest. The average Joe is probably the most generous
It happens to me too. I paint, I try to keep my prices competitive. But I stand by all my work and will return if something needs attention. Customer service is most important!!
I like that. "I stand behind my work.."
This dude speaks truth! Im a bathroom/kitchen remodeler and if I had a nickel for every customer who asked for a freebie in exchange for "spreading my name around" I would have a literal ton of nickels lol. People are cheap! 😂
I read this as "I'm a bathroom/kitchen model" 💀😂😅
Some people have no shame
Yeah i hear it all the time from usually the cheaper customers, some say they are in real estate and they know alot of people
Most people who offer to spread your name don’t even bother. And if they do you get similar cheapskate customers who want freebies.
True with every business. Exposure don’t give you more clients most of the time.
As a plumber, I've met many customers like this, & they're generally, very cheap. They'll just refer you to more like minded cheapskates.
same in Germany
@@erik-benz 👍
@@erik-benz Chicago, Illinois
Yeah this isn’t a scam, he just got screwed over by somebody and now he’s mad. This is actually a very legitimate way for a business to grow and well worth a few minutes of your time if possible.
@@gavindy_Sv2 ok cheapskate.
Promises mean nothing in the business world. Anybody that has ever worked for themselves know that fact.
Only in usa this story. Pepol my contry work by promesse.❤
Ha, same goes for working for a company. Boss man has been give me empty promise for a long time.
Exactly. Never take anything on a promise, it has to be of real tangible value.
On a promise or payments.
Also a written contract and with receipts.
Good for you for having enough honor for yourself to stick to you convictions!
As a former web designer and gfx designer, I feel you. If I had a dollar for every potential client that wanted to pay me in "exposure" and "referrals" I'd be rich af...
It's the nature strip not driveway
he's just described the business model of social media influencers
😂
That is a good example of maintaining healthy boundaries.
Good advice I've used it myself. I'm glad you didn't get swindled my friend I got into sales when I was young and did not approve of their tactics in any way shape or form. I don't like the customer screwing over people like you and I don't like company is screwing over the customer.. more power to you keep up the good work
As someone just starting a small business, I appreciate this type of insight.
Keep on keepin on!
Better to offer them a partial refund for every customer you get from them.
This guy is legit. Most people don't own a 30" surface cleaner. Definitely commercial stuff there. Pay this man and pay him well.
Pay him well because he goes out and buys an oversized second hand buffer? Not gonna happen lol
He has no idea what he's doing.
He just overlapped 8" of asphalt on the street when surface cleaning the rain gutter.
So, neither you nor him know what you're doing clearly.
@@francislutz8027 Yes, you are right. My bad.
Na, I will pay an ilegal for less and perhaps a better quality of work
Everyone’s so nice here on the inter webs…
My grandmother had to deal with that for years in the cleaning industry.
She still does.
Sad 😢
That’s sad:(. She shouldn’t even be working at her age 😢😢😢😢😢💔💔💔. Please take care of her
No Tikky no washy. Oriental cleaners
I know times are tough but to purposely mug someone off is disgusting. Your workmanship is 2nd to none. I hope your business continues to be successful. 🇬🇧👍🇺🇸
Your work will speak for itself.
No need referrals.
yeah sure the clean driveway is shouting out the guys number clownnn
@@Timoteusmusik does him a lot better than some guy just saying he'll tell people about him
Damn, "I'll pay you in exposure" is leaking from the art community.
I blame it on the "influencer" trend
@@s_1408that’s what he’s talking about. Influencers try to get free art and crap saying they will give you tons of exposure
It existed way before influencers, or even the internet existed. @@s_1408
😂for real I used to think they just did this shit to dancers not I’m seeing people don’t want to pay for ANYTHING
Have him pay full price and give him a referral kickback when he does give you work
Seen a company do this with influencers and despite saying they will bring thousands of customers they almost always back out 😂 they only needed like 12 referrals to get a full refund on the product too. Just after free stuff 🤷🏻♂️
Bird Dog fee.
@@minmo2288 this works if the kickback occurs after the referred customer pays in full.
What I do is simple. When a customer ask for free or discounted work for the promise of a lot of future work, I tell them "I have to charge you full price now, but if you continue to give us work I will give you a discounted rate in the future." They never call back. But it does shut them up
Here is a lesson I learned in life. If someone ever says, "I will take care of you" they are lying and are going to cheat you. Don't believe them.
That's exactly what my Ford dealership said to me when I inquired about buying a Ranger. They then proceeded to only offer me a $9,000 trade in & General Motors Holden offered me $15,000 trade in, so of course I went with Holden & I've been driving their car since 2014 & it's been the most reliable & trouble free car I've ever owned.
And never trust someone that says, "trust me".
rule #1 of business: never do it for favors or promises, especially when there's nothing to guarantee that they will keep their word
I am self-employed and I get this all the time as well. I have found that the lower middle class pay the most and refer the most. The upper classes are the worst when it comes to paying for services they request.
same in Germany !
Well done young man. I'm sorry you had to learn that by experience.
Even if their friends/familly call you, You'd still have to work... Nothing's free
What? Work is what he wants. But he wont do it for free
Even if their friends/family call him, that wouldn't eliminate the fact that he'd have worked for no pay. Nothing's free.
Nah he would likely be down to do it if he KNEW he was going to get alot of extra business for it.
No shit he still has to do that work too, but it's more paying customers that he likely wouldn't have had. It's not like the "pressure washing driveways" business is in high demand... he probably barely has any customers as it is.
Only problem was, like he said, they're probably full of shit and just want a free cleaning.
I used to own a weight loss facility. We used to hear this all the time. "I know a lot of people, give me a discount and I'll refer them". We fell for it a couple times then never did it again. I 100% agree with you!
Not surprised you fell for that.
Oh and “weight loss facility”
Probably explains why you’re not in the fitness industry anymore 😂
@@killiancarolan4781 🤣😂
I design websites and have been hearing the same thing for over 15 years. Not sure why they think I would do free work
Similar line of work here, but let me advice you to not make it an ego issue and instead see it as marketing cost - and a real opportunity to get easy work.
I've been at it for 20 years and doing quite well because of the same clients I met decades ago. Zero need for marketing - most work comes from word of mouth. Freebies can make first-time clients feel like they are getting a great deal... and when they come back, they are more likely to pay full price without hesitation.
@@alcinnovations I couldn't care less if free work can make first-time clients feel like they are getting a great deal. You ask what they want, give them a price and make sure you get paid half of that before you start and half at the end before you deliver. And always with a contract no matter who it is. That way I make sure I don't do a second of free work. They don't have to agree. They can always find someone on fiverr, or someone that likes doing free work, as long as it isn't me
Youre ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!! I had a schoolmate and his wife tell me that they would have ALL of their co-workers call me.
“You can’t run a business on a gamble”
Casino :
@@lem2004 But for the Casions its not a gamble, its calculated.
Starting a business is ALWAYS a gamble! DUH!
@@Jake-by9ly Technically yes, but it's more effort, work and consistency than luck.
100% agree, it happens in all trades. Your exactly right, you never hear from them again.
That's why you tell them to give you the names of these friends and family that will be calling you and IF they all call and set up service, you will refund their money for the driveway wash. That way, it gives them an incentive and turns them into one of your salespeople. You can even tell them if they get you xxx amount of other people to sign u for service, you will give them a discount on pressure washing the following year.
Work smarter, not harder.
At what point are we merely salesman and not just honest work for honest $ might as well pick something more profitable if your good at sales
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw You won't find a better advocate or "salesperson" for your business than a happy and satisfied customer. They will sing your praises anytime the need for your business arises.
As a graphic designer, I’ve had so many clients say the same thing when they wanted a discount from my end. And those are the ones who end up never referring you to anyone.
You gotta tie in the work to an effort. Referral programs work, always have
“Never let someone promise you a job.”
One of the best pieces of advice a former boss gave me.
I tell them that I will either give them a discount next time or a referral fee.
''Sorry, I can't pay my rent in exposure''
Wym bro??? I exposed myself to my landlord and I got a month free
Skill issue
@@wynoglia😂😂😂😂😂 lmfao
@@wynoglia🤦
NEVER TELL THEM THAT YOU OWN IT...JUST SAY ITS AGAINST COMPANY POLICY..
Yup, you could be just a dude working on his own with a pressure washer like a teen mowing lawns in the summer and still say ‘it’s company policy’
Mostly because it’s kinda funny in that context, especially if they live a few houses down from you and know you do this yourself but it’s still true because it’s _your_ company policy
Also as I type this I realize how much I overthought this
Never a lie for a lie, always tell the truth and be honest. All you have in this life is your integrity, never lose it.
@@kzoll3546If it’s your company just put a policy in place, then it wouldn’t be a lie 🤷♂️
@@kzoll3546 it doesnt have to be a lie. it can actually be in the company policy, and sole proprietorships are also companies
Clever
Because the customer is NOT always right! In fact, after 20 years in grocery retail, I have concluded that the customer is almost NEVER right!
The customer is always right in matter of taste. That’s the full quote. It means even if you find something unappealing (look wise/taste wise/etc) you don’t say anything because the customer likes it that way. Let them buy it that way and get the sale.
Now if they’re trying to cheat the system and get extra value or breaking some sort of policy you can absolutely tell them they’re wrong and handle them accordingly.
Tell them you’re working on a timeline and didn’t have time to do the driveway, but if a relative or friend hires you you’ll come back and do the driveway.
In the service industry like this, the most horrible customers are always the cheapest.
yep
You are absolutely correct. I’ve fallen for this atleast a hundred times and guess what? None of there friends or family called me for more work
"If you are going to be dumb, you better be tough." I hope you are tough......
@@user-cg7dg7uv8fSome people are just too nice.
Back in the 80's, had a friend who had a lawn care business. Anyone who tried bargaining or wanted large discounts such as above, he walked away from the customer. If he took on that customer, he only be a continuous problem child, always wanting more, just complaining about everything and/or not paying.
musicians and artists know this feeling well. "we can't Pay you, but think of the exposure you'll get"
Ain't that the truth. Kudos, they say.
One of my favorite responses to this sort of thing, "So you're willing to write a contract, guaranteeing me a certain numbers of new customers?"
It’s so hard to not lose faith in humanity when you run your own business. I’m learning this right now in life.
Between that and the internet and social media, it is now obvious how messed up so many people are.
EXACTLY!!!! When they tell me that I politely explain to them if i would have done that for the 30 people ahead of them, that I’d be out of business. Hence NOT BEING AVAILABLE to do their job today. No one goes to the grocery store asking for free eggs, they PAY for what they want
Basically the artist industry in a nutshell
Not only artists. But restaurants, hotels, nail techs, hairdressers, makeup artists. Influencers always want free services for shoutouts. But the influencer has less subscribers than any of the people and businesses that they are trying to scam. A cousin of mine has a beautiful little French cuisine restaurant. And these 3 girls came in and ordered a bunch of food. And someone told my cousin in law to ask before she put the order in. You have money to pay for all this food correct? And the influencers lied and said yes. They did. As she was getting ready to put the order in. One of the girls snuck up to the server window and said don’t bother they don’t have money to pay they were going to try and get you to do it for exposure. Before she went back to her friends. She asked them not to tell them she told the truth. So she brought out the bowl of salad. And she then told them that the owner won’t drop the order until they have the proof that they will get paid for the food. So they have to pay first then he will start cooking. They flipped out and said they were going to pay the main girl said she was disgusted by the insult. Then the 3 girls all pooled their money together and they were able to afford the big salad and appetizer and their coffees. They had $25 between the 3 girls. My cousin made that the house rule. You pay for your tab then he will cook for you. He got stiffed by customers until he realized that they would pay first if he refused to cook until the money was in his hand first. Influencers are the worst.
@@Idontwant1 agreed
"Influencers" are the scourge of the internet age.
Indeed, Exposure dollars. This also goes with photographers, web and graphic designers as well.
Never knew that.
People do this in every business. Stand your ground and hopefully you’ll never have to deal with that person as a client. You don’t want to deal with them AT ALL.
It's kind of a catch-22 because in some businesses it does actually work I'm a professional reviewer all the time I get requests to review stuff because I have a decent following and I do a good job My cost is the item I don't take payments I don't take commissions I don't charge for it you get the item to me and no cost to me if you want the item back that's fine as well as long as you pay to get it back no cost to me
And it works both ways many many times I have to turn down a review item that I really want but their conditions are onerous and would compromise my integrity I'd like to be doing this 10 years from now if I compromise my integrity I'll be done in a year
People try to do that with things like this services where it doesn't quite work that way :-) so in this context he is correct stand your ground politely tell them what it costs because they're not going to be able to bring you enough business with any kind of assurance to recoup your loss if they have any intention of doing so at all
@@nerys71what do you mean? A product that may be produced or a brand item like a new phone ☎️ and your pay would be that phone your reviewing?
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw I'm sorry I don't understand what you're trying to say I read it many times I tried to figure out which words might be in the wrong place or could be using different words? But I can't understand what you're trying to say can you rephrase it?
Here in Mexico we have a saying: "To trust is good, but not to trust is even better".
Don't believe any promises, especially from people you just met, even worse, from clients that are (sometimes on bad faith) procuring for their interests.
same thing in italy, "fidarsi è bene, ma non fidarsi è meglio",
"to trust is good, to not trust is better"
Kudos to you for sticking to your standards 💯
Artists are asked to work for "exposure" all the time; good to see they aren't the only ones it happens to. Good on you for holding your ground.
If I wanted exposure, there are traditional and modern social media :P
You're so right and it's so sad that we take advantage of each other ...just shows how we have given up our self respect as a society
Demons lie to get ahead.
We?
Bro we're like this since 300.000 years ago when humans were born. It's literally just how humans are. Self respect as a society? What are you talking about? What society? American society?
Not we. I’m not in that percentage 🤨
Wild assumption to draw after listening to a guy with a pressure washer for 20 seconds
Been there. When I started my business I was naive enough to believe in customer's promises... then I learnt.
You are exactly right! You wont get any calls from friends n family. Thats bullshit!!
That's when you tell them you'll give them credit for each new customer toward future services.
Amen
^ this! 100%
Exactly or just a straight up 3-5% referral fee.
Even if you do hear from their referrals, it’s only gonna be “They said you did their driveway for free, so that’s what I want.”
So true. Greedy customers only want free
I've heard this so many times. I don't need your exposure. My art is already known.
So you’re saying you wouldn’t want a clean driveway for free?
Can’t blame them
@buabua-uf5jn nope I pay people for their services
Corrrect..
N selfish bullying..
Yup. People are complete scumbags and liars. Good for you for standing your ground and not being a sucker. Always disappointing when I hear some poor soul. Paid up front for something and then got ripped off. People, yall have got to be smarter and see the world for the shit hole it is...