Back in the early 2000s when many of the old school studio vanguard were pushing the myth that nobody could ever make good sounding recordings without all this super expensive gear, Ethan was one of the lone voices actively trying to debunk those myths rather than take advantage of them. He saved me SO much time and money and anxiety. Thanks Ethan.
Nobody said that, you're lying out your ass. What they were saying is the BEST sounding gear and cabling always produced the BEST sound. All the artists and recording engineers that actually care for the sound of the finished product will attest to that. All the garbage recordings ever made were made on garbage gear cabled with garbage financed by garbage labels. Facts!
Thanks for the videos. Looking forward to the full interview! I appreciate that Ethan doesn't completely dismiss expensive gear by putting it into perspective. When I first started out in bands, I would buy cheap XLR cables and, now and again, one would fail on me. I eventually upgraded to the Van Damme / Neutrik XLR cables and have never had one fail on me in 15+ years. I never noticed the improvement in audio quality, just reliability!
He's absolutely right - very often more expensive becomes diminishing returns. That said, and depending on the product and manufacturer, you might get support and longevity from a more expensive piece of equipment. But overall there is a load of bs and snake oil - after all, firms need to make money!!!!
Good of them to print recommended installation instructions on the body of the cable/connector… You use your fingers to plug in the cable - hence digit. You use all your fingers - hence all That gets you ‘Digit All’ but to save space ‘DIGITAL’.
Back in the bad old days (around 2008-09) when HDMI was first coming around, when I bought my first blu-ray player I was actually convinced to buy a Monster HDMI cable (1 meter long) and paid $300 for it. Granted, I still use it as my main connector. But every now and then when I see it I feel very foolish indeed.
plot twist, cheap hdmi cables can indeed look worse because hdmi signals are fragile and interference etc can mess with the signal and cause the error correction to kick into overdrive. that said a good cable is not so expensive
@@APMasteringIs that true? I always thought the digital HDMI signal only has 2 settings, it works or not. Or is that only with bandwidth discrepancies?
@@nicovandenberg_ On 1080p and up to 30 Hz it's usually fine and you don't have any issues with cheap cables. But HDMI at higher resolution and higher refresh rate has completely different requirements, but since HDMI 1 in 2002 the plug is still the same and compatible. So you can try to run 2160p@60Hz+ and HDR over a cheap cable and even if it's claiming to be according to the required standard i had not much luck. With short cable lengths below 1,5m it can work sometimes, but on days with a full moon and clear sky it randomly just won't work with the wanted resolution or refresh rate and you have to lower it. I ended up with one 1,5m cable for around 40€ and an 10m active optical HDMI cable around 120€ and everything works fine :)
I only buy cables braided out of unicorn hair and dipped in water from mt. olympus. The stereo imaging is incredible. I bought it on Amazon for 2 bucks.
Gold plated cable contacts have NO effect on sound. However, gold plated contacts fare better than the alternatives (silver, nickel) for repeated use in moist environments (outdoor concerts and clubs that keep the door open), because gold plating is more tarnish resistant than other platings. For this reason I build all my cables with Neutrik gold plated connectors even for studio use. I figure a difference in longevity of years in a harsh live sound environment may scale to a difference in longevity of decades in a studio, and for me that longevity and avoided hassle is worth the slightly higher asking price of gold plated connectors.
Same here, I found that especially in the patchbay. Gold plated TT cables fare better than brass or most anything else. But those get a lot of use. Same for switches, when one of the silver plated switches go bad in my console I replace it with the gold version; probably I’ve replaced 400 of the doggone things in my Soundcraft 2400.
So if you're still spending money on gold cables and garbage like that, it's really your own fault. It's obvious that a standard copper cable for a few dollars transmits everything in exactly the same way. You can certainly talk about shielded cables, they have a purpose, everything else is fairy tales.
@@smugler1 sure, get a piece of audio gear and disconnect the output leaving the input to the amplifier plugged in. now get an electric fan or interference producing device and put it near the cable. you'll hear interference. reconnect to the dac or whatever sound source, turn it on and repeat. there will be significantly less or zero detectable interference
I almost never buy cables anymore. Whenever I get new gear I measure how long I need cables to & just make them. Aside from building synths it’s the most liberating thing.
I've been following Ethan Winer since the early 2000s on various internet forums & and his work has really let me stay away from most astrology for audio. Converters, isolation pads and what not. Thank you Mr Winer. You are appreciated.
Converters are astrology? Seems like you are the same like the guys who belief in gold cables. Of course converters make a huge difference that you can hear and dont need to be measured.
Oxygen ‘free’ copper wire is very sensible. It is also barely more expensive. I’ve used OFC bulk wire in my studio builds since the 1970s. That’s long enough so I can see the difference. It’s not even claimed to be a sonic matter.
I still have 4 Realtraps I purchased about 20 years ago from Mr Winer's company. I'd been working as a house engineer for a record company studio and as the industry changed rapidly, the studio sold to one of those AE schools that seems to produce far too many graduates who love the audio woo, so I went freelance and did the bulk of my work from home. Having been spoiled by an Eastlake designed studio and other high end locations with expensive LEDE designs, I was not looking forward to getting consistency in a non bespoke type location. I got lucky in that the house I purchased had a loft room with asymmetrical ceilings and it was built of mostly brick with slate tiles on the top. The floor can still be a problem but a lot of heavy furniture, strategically located heavy rugs and a couple of locally built bass traps deals with the worst. The Realtraps, along with a lot of positional tweaking has led me to having a room that is surprisingly good and it didn't cost multiple 100s of 1000s! Mr Winer, along with Tom Hidley have long been the experts I trust the most in the area of room treatment.
High end HiFi is the best for pointless spending: `The Odin 2 Mains Power cable opens up your system to a new level of performance with excellent depth by eliminating your system's noise floor. This is achieved through the combination of Odin 2's conductors and their construction.` ... only £21,275 for 1.25m of cable ;) Don't forget the fuses: Quantum Science Audio (QSA) Red-Black High-End UK Mains Fuse - 3A, 5A & 13 Amp ... £2,400 incl VAT :o
One of the best Mastering Engineers I know (who will remain nameless) uses Amazon Basic cables and his internationally renowned clients and their fanbases have no complaints 😅
I'd did think your compressor and e.q. videos were bollocks but this was very enjoyable. People need to talk about this more. I've spent fortune on cables due to lack of knowledge over the years. Well done.
not sure what you didn't find convicting in those vids, in part 3 of both the eq so compression videos i just present objective evidence which can't really be argued with
Also a 2020 user. And I also have the Neumanns… so they’re good. Totally agree with the cables. For power adequate gauge and that’s it. Speakers too… have always done the forehead smack over directional speaker wire. For AC? Signal cables: mostly about ease of physical handling. Obviously the shield can’t open up and become compromised but that can be helped by proper coiling. I discovered where to put my money in the studio when I didn’t have a lot. Now that I can afforded things I still don’t waste money. Nice build quality is nice. Lastly: Rupert Neve make quite a few discoveries by taking notes on things that failed on his consoles that sounded better according to the client. Use your ears.
Many Audiophiles do not know the fact that copper leads signal equally good in both direction. That gold cables were invented for cold climate/situations and prevents you from breaking the cable in extreme conditions and that a power cord is the worlds best speaker cable. But all Guitar Techs do.... We are able to save you a lot of money!
Audiophile power cables are just laughable. The last few feet/meters after the outlet wouldn't make a dent even if they would make a difference, which they don't. With audio cables, shielding is important, and balanced cables can be a huge improvement, especially on long cable runs. Good built quality is always important, but everything else is pretty much snake oil.
I remember talking to another engineer and he said something about having the fancy power cables plugged straight into the wall outlet, and I said, but the wall outlet has 50m of cable behind it which ends up at the street and from the street its got another 100m of cable on it before it gets to the power line transformer etc....
Nashville has always been its own audio community, adopting digital technology early and embracing other new technologies that pass the muster of consensus. One time during the late 80s the local AES chapter in Nashville had a shootout of speaker cables in a double blind test. Just for fun, the guy setting up the test threw in coat hanger to see what would happen. Oddly enough, in spite of all of these esoteric speaker cables with all of their claims… COAT HANGER WON! No one could believe it, but it was true, measurable and verifiable with data. 😂😂😂
There is some credence to expensive gear. Tube distortion can sound way different than diode clipping and anything involving tubes done right, will be quite expensive. The real question is, will it really make enough of a difference to be worth it on a particular project. Personally the most satisfying distortion effect box I ever used, is available on the aftermarket for round 125 bucks. Physical gear is great but you don't always have to spend a lot.
So your saying my $7k dollar speaker wires that are cryogenically treated wont make my MP3 Ipod sound better !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I agree Although i did spend some money on my sound rooms . Made me feel better but I never really did notice any major difference . I always do choose XLR cables when possible .
We use 13awg copper cables at 10m+ for connecting 4000w per channel amps to large subwoofer arrays for outdoor parties and raves. 10awg copper costs around $10/m wholesale.
Hey man! Really enjoying your vids! Can you do headphones next , I recently watched 100s of videos telling me the hifiman Sundara headphones have such amazing detail and kick and slam but when I got them they just sounded tinny and flat! Are the headphones channels a scam to?
most of those guys don't know what they are on about. ive tried hifi man headphones and some of them are borderline ok but you cant go wrong with sennheiser 6** series. Also most audiophile headphones seem a bit unethical because they use "calf leather" etc. Any time I've worn such headphones in the past I just cant enjoy the music as I'm hyper aware I'm wearing a dead baby animal on my ears.
Oh man... This video made me dig out my old textbook from college. I'm so glad I kept pretty much all of them. If I can read the whole thing and fully understand it, I might have to make the Bob Katz book next on my book purchase list. I remember looking up the K-System before LUFS was a thing & man did this video bring back memories! Can't wait to watch the full video & I subbed to his channel. You haven't missed on a single video yet 🙌🙌🙌🙌
thanks! I'm not a huge fan of bob Katz to be 100% honest, I used to be in like 2005 and he got me interested into mastering but since working as a mastering engineer for 15+ years, I tend to not like his book THAT much any more. I might review it at some point.
@@APMastering Curious to hear your takes on super loud masters for modern EDM. Dan makes a great case for preserving Dynamics, I wonder if you agree on that, disagree, or have a completely different view on it all together. The positive LUFS memes are hilarious, but I would defo love to have your insight and hear your take on everything considering the quality and level of details of your videos so far!
@@5adb0i lufs is essentially just bullshit. if EDM artists want to crush their music to a square wave, then they have every right to. And I have every right not to listen to their square waves
Hardware distortion is less linear due to electric components error. More or less. Less is better, but if error offset is too low, then sound will be too sterile and it become not so pleasurable. Usually components error offset should not be higher than 2-10%.
It's pretty easy to visualize differences with Plugin Doctor's Hammerstein analysis. It works with hardware too (most of the time). Driving at different levels than the default is important.
@@sparella yea but you can see the presence of harmonics on the graph but is there anything about hardware saturation that makes it better sounding? Maybe not - but then why would anyone spend thousands on a culture vulture vs decapitator, for example
@@bradleypower4803 You can listen to hardware vs software demos and decide for yourself, but the answer for me is that hardware saturation almost always wins. Software is great for everything else. To that end, the units in my 500 rack are all saturation modules.
@@bradleypower4803 Because some people loves this particular sound and the gear. Its not about better. Really dont get the point. If I cant afford it I dont buy it and just use something else it will do the job anyway. If I like something I will spend the money they ask for, its that simple.
Me personally using good custom clean pre and an external bic transformer between mic and pre if vocal needs some gentle coloration. Enough for a good record. Simple canare cables.☺️
There is a Colour module version of Ethan's Mojo Maestro circuit. It seems pretty heavy handed for bus use, but probably okay on individual instruments.
@@APMastering You might consider using 2520 format discreet amps (DOAs) where appropriate for further mojo nuance. The CTX Colour is cool in that regard.
@@sparella if I make it, I'll just use standard FETs and opamps, I don't think anyone can tell the difference in clean gain ranges. I could do a blind AB video though
Brilliant interview! Can you answer in one of your videos what the difference is between digital microphones that you plug into the USB port of your computer, and all the non-digital microphones you plug into an audio interface? Is one better than the other? It seems audio equipment is moving progressively toward digital, so why does everyone want a microphone like the one Frank Sinatra was recording on in the 20th century?
good question! i've never tested them. but if you record a session with a band playing live in the studio you will appreciate xlr cables and a mixing console!
@@APMastering You're probably certainly right, but I think most people who watch your TH-cam videos don't have a live band or a studio. They also don't have all that technical junk that has to be plugged into everything else. Good audio interfaces aren't cheap. I think people who watch your videos are not working professional recording technicians or whatever they're called. I think most of us are individual people who just want to know how to record our own vocals, or our own guitar, or both together. I don't know what city you live in, but where I live, a recording studio costs hundreds of dollars an hour to rent. If you want a human technician to set up and operate a bunch of equipment and to make the actual recording, you're looking at more than a thousand dollars for half a day.
@@g.e.miller4335 my personal fav studio costs just a couple of hundred per day but normally you'd need an engineer. As I'm the engineer, I don't have to pay myself, which saves me a lot of money... or makes me a lot of money.... it depends on which hand gives the other hand the money.
I love this content! Thank you. I rather enjoy all the disgruntled comments too 😂 The implementations of all this audio technology is so subjective, it’s nice to hear someone keeping it real.
I have tested- The new basic cables don’t sound as good as the basic cheap Hosa brand of 20+ years ago. there is cheap metal going around. Stick with the brands you know are using higher grade quality metal.
There's so much of it and there are some thing where there is a noticeable difference but the problem is the cost to the amount of difference is criminal. Pure silver cables for instance, will give you a 1% max difference of transparency but cost 17 times more than the next best cable... you're much better off upgrading something else which will give you a better increase of quality. I think if you changes a whole studio to have all pure silver wires it would be a bit better over all and be more noticeable than just one wire... but... it'll cost you the cost of the entire studio again to do that, and again, you'd be best spending that money on things that will make a bigger difference. Then with power cables it makes even less sense, no difference, but lets be generous and say it lasts longer and less likelihood of the power fluctuating due to the wire itself (which barely ever happens), again the price bump doesn't fit that. You again will be better off upgrading the power supply, and that will only make a difference to a point, you can only give something it's most optimal power supply for it's components before upgrading that is worthless. That is only a thing due to companies cutting cost because the power supply difference does make enough difference to make a product more expensive. Only if you want to be obsessive would you need to do that anyway. All of this is basically doing up a entire house from scratch and putting the most amount of money into the skirting boards
Thanks again, Alain. Looking forward to watch the whole interview!!! I hope people go past through the denial phase when they realise all this info is for their own benefit 😂, your channel is making a real difference. 👏👏👏👏
PS Audio make some nice gear, but they are trying to convince the world they need a power regenerator because mains power is so noisy and rough. I love how they can say that, meaning their amps are so shoddily built that their power supplies can’t achieve anywhere near the performance of a $200 PSU for a PC.
i think summing mixers are stupid, isolation pads are like gaffa tape on leaking plumbing and external clocks are for the most part snake oil outside of a few niche applications
Great content! Can you please consider making some videos about the following: Claims such as the old Atari computer is “rock solid on midi” and better than a modern DAW 😅 MPC swing is “magical” and can’t be replicated in your DAW 😅 IsoAcoustics ISO Puck makes your speakers sound better 😅
@@APMastering 😀 This is a throwback joke to when this guy many MANY years ago did just that and complained about the amount of noise it picked up. People skewered him in the comments' section and it took years for him to finally mark the video unlisted/private.
On cheap gear, saturation, etc. I had a local live sound guy compliment my production on a record I did for a local band. He put it on his house music playlist. It was tracked with Samson drum mics, SM57s and 58s on guitars, MXL 990 on vocals, and a behringer interface combined with a focusrite for 10 channels total, some summed even through a hill multimix (actually quite a cool and useful piece of gear for preamp drive). Mixed in pro tools with only free or stock plugins.
@@APMastering Thanks! Working on the next one now, and it's going to sound even better thanks to more cheap microphones and cheap inputs now that I have an X18 digital mixer haha
Also, the part about cassette tapes sounding better than digital. The information about the power cables was spot on but I haven't got to the microphone section yet. If he really did say that LOL.
@@APMasteringit would be an interesting comparison. U47 FET vs.At2020, AT4033 and a more vintage sE.Electronics 2200 if one can be found used. The AT4040 is sibilant garbage... don't bother with it. Same with a stock tube Rode NTK... The amount of people recommending that microphone to me back in the day and then I was so disappointed with the way it sounded...
tbh i'm a real fan of dynamic mics for most things. but i've not recorded for a while now. i was thinking about doing condensors vs dynamic mics as overheads
Anyone believing the nonsense about audiophile power cables almost deserves to be scammed, but anyway. I did laugh about his comment on the HiFi press. Every time I see an article by "Kashfia Kabir" ("audio editor" at What Hifi?) all I can think is "diversity hire". Maybe that makes me sexist and racist, but I'd really love to know what makes this girl some kind of audio expert. Seems to me that her main "qualification" is just journalism. What Hifi could never (would never) employ someone like myself because I'd be brutally honest and not just regurgitate the BS that the advertisers in that magazine want me to write.
I have a couple of cables that sounds like shit, BUT i bought a mogami super quality and sounds much better then I compared it to a pighog and they sound identical, so long story short , cables do matter but you don't need to expend much just be careful and test them
They sound so shiny. I like wooden knobs, they sounds so much more natural and smooth. Just make sure they're sanded the right way or you'll RUIN the soundstage
It’s not fraud! It’s appropriate marketing, to the appropriate audience. And it’s the morally correct thing to do! As per WC Fields: it is morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money.
My intentions are not argumentative. However, I will gladly be the first and take all the shame and bashing that comes along with it in saying, two pieces of audio material that null out perfectly CAN audibly sound different.
yeah the point of a null test is to demonstrate if two signals are identical or not. if they are different, you hear that difference. but even if you can hear the difference in isolation you might not hear the difference in practice
@@RegebroRepairs Not really. I'm a recording engineer and a guitar player and I don't know any fellow guitar player using Behringer effects. One uses a warm audio centavo - but states that it sounds nothing like a Klon. Cheap audio gear is overrated.
The man is wrong though. A twisted pair will reject external EMI, a balanced cable could allow long runs without picking up rf, Silver can offer electrons a less resistive path, while gold can resist oxidation. Mixing metals causes Havok long term. Cable characteristics matter, and honestly, I been watching you post garbage and im contemplating doing an expose. There's so much nuance your looking over, and your mixes aren't.. umm.. good? Foks are better off understanding the nuance, rather be told blanket statements that cables are a fraud...
please do a video exposing all the falsehoods i promote on my channel. you probably want to learn more about electronics if you think you can hear a difference because of the
also afaik, mixing metals is not a problem per se, but if you twin aluminium conductors with steal and copper for electrical installations you get a fire hazard. i lived in an old flat where this was the case. mixing metals can be totally fine otherwise jewellery wouldn't exist
@@APMastering😂....Gold has a lower conductivity......hence...the cables sound " WARM" from that heating up..& "SMOOTH"..because that's how gold feels to the "owners touch"😅😂😂
If an amp is "sensitive" IE the input impedance is very low or something, then different cables could sound different due to parasitics of the output stage of the previous piece of equipment being loaded down etc
Ahahaha.... nice to see you here. Guess you have a different approach on a couple things or did you put your power cables and iso puks to the waste after this video? 😅
So the guy talked and blinked. I saw no more proof than the cable believers. This is not how science is presented. Both sides are full of loud mouths. Once again, science is done by writing a paper and having it run through peer review. Or at least a panel debate to actually look like you’re trying.
@@APMastering I didn’t see the testing. I can do testing all day long. It means nothing without peer review or a form of certification. At this moment all cable talk is equal to politics. I’m a retired electrician engineer myself from the healthcare industry. I have extensive knowledge of cables and I also know proper data. I can’t say I disagree with any or all of his comments but it’s simply comments from a guy who identifies as someone important. And writing a book isn’t proof of anything. Many people write books. I want to see studies data and verification of both. No TH-cam channel follows that scientific method. That’s why everyone to this day fights about it like politicians. I’m not jumping yours or his butt. I’m pointing out the failure from this audiophile community.
If you're a sound engineer and can't hear the difference then maybe you're not that good. Examples - Bernie grundman and Kevin gray both have their mastering and cutting rooms kitted out with audiophile cables because they hear the improvement.Gilmore of pink Floyd has his whole studio fitted with Kimber because he and other mix engineers can hear the improvements. For this guy in the video to say its all a scam because of what's on the scope is stupid. hifi and sound and production is about hearing yes, maybe he should actually go and hear then....
Nope, ive done these test. Cheap cables can absolutly kill hf response. Also, its not just one cable. When recording 24 tracks the bad cables stack up to be dull. Another completly wrong you tube video.
He's 100% right, I've been using cheap cables in my studio for years, never had a problem.
Back in the early 2000s when many of the old school studio vanguard were pushing the myth that nobody could ever make good sounding recordings without all this super expensive gear, Ethan was one of the lone voices actively trying to debunk those myths rather than take advantage of them. He saved me SO much time and money and anxiety. Thanks Ethan.
he's been doing it literally before I was born ha ha
Nobody said that, you're lying out your ass. What they were saying is the BEST sounding gear and cabling always produced the BEST sound. All the artists and recording engineers that actually care for the sound of the finished product will attest to that. All the garbage recordings ever made were made on garbage gear cabled with garbage financed by garbage labels. Facts!
Appreciate the honesty in this environment of paid sponsors, hype videos, 0-day release demos, etc.
This was literally a hype video for his full length release of the same content. Simp harder!
Thanks for the videos. Looking forward to the full interview! I appreciate that Ethan doesn't completely dismiss expensive gear by putting it into perspective. When I first started out in bands, I would buy cheap XLR cables and, now and again, one would fail on me. I eventually upgraded to the Van Damme / Neutrik XLR cables and have never had one fail on me in 15+ years. I never noticed the improvement in audio quality, just reliability!
He's absolutely right - very often more expensive becomes diminishing returns. That said, and depending on the product and manufacturer, you might get support and longevity from a more expensive piece of equipment. But overall there is a load of bs and snake oil - after all, firms need to make money!!!!
My favourite cable is one I bought from amazon. It's a 3.5mm audio cable that say "DIGITAL" on the side.
lol
You can send MIDI over it, though. 😊 Some gear now has 3.5 mm jacks instead of the traditional MIDI ports.
Good of them to print recommended installation instructions on the body of the cable/connector…
You use your fingers to plug in the cable - hence digit.
You use all your fingers - hence all
That gets you ‘Digit All’ but to save space ‘DIGITAL’.
Back in the bad old days (around 2008-09) when HDMI was first coming around, when I bought my first blu-ray player I was actually convinced to buy a Monster HDMI cable (1 meter long) and paid $300 for it.
Granted, I still use it as my main connector. But every now and then when I see it I feel very foolish indeed.
plot twist, cheap hdmi cables can indeed look worse because hdmi signals are fragile and interference etc can mess with the signal and cause the error correction to kick into overdrive. that said a good cable is not so expensive
@@APMasteringIs that true? I always thought the digital HDMI signal only has 2 settings, it works or not. Or is that only with bandwidth discrepancies?
@@nicovandenberg_ On 1080p and up to 30 Hz it's usually fine and you don't have any issues with cheap cables. But HDMI at higher resolution and higher refresh rate has completely different requirements, but since HDMI 1 in 2002 the plug is still the same and compatible. So you can try to run 2160p@60Hz+ and HDR over a cheap cable and even if it's claiming to be according to the required standard i had not much luck.
With short cable lengths below 1,5m it can work sometimes, but on days with a full moon and clear sky it randomly just won't work with the wanted resolution or refresh rate and you have to lower it.
I ended up with one 1,5m cable for around 40€ and an 10m active optical HDMI cable around 120€ and everything works fine :)
I only buy cables braided out of unicorn hair and dipped in water from mt. olympus. The stereo imaging is incredible. I bought it on Amazon for 2 bucks.
Gold plated cable contacts have NO effect on sound. However, gold plated contacts fare better than the alternatives (silver, nickel) for repeated use in moist environments (outdoor concerts and clubs that keep the door open), because gold plating is more tarnish resistant than other platings.
For this reason I build all my cables with Neutrik gold plated connectors even for studio use. I figure a difference in longevity of years in a harsh live sound environment may scale to a difference in longevity of decades in a studio, and for me that longevity and avoided hassle is worth the slightly higher asking price of gold plated connectors.
agree
Same here, I found that especially in the patchbay. Gold plated TT cables fare better than brass or most anything else. But those get a lot of use. Same for switches, when one of the silver plated switches go bad in my console I replace it with the gold version; probably I’ve replaced 400 of the doggone things in my Soundcraft 2400.
So if you're still spending money on gold cables and garbage like that, it's really your own fault. It's obvious that a standard copper cable for a few dollars transmits everything in exactly the same way. You can certainly talk about shielded cables, they have a purpose, everything else is fairy tales.
even shielded is debatable because low impedance outputs and high impedance inputs shunt interference really well
@@APMastering can you expand on that?
@@smugler1 sure, get a piece of audio gear and disconnect the output leaving the input to the amplifier plugged in. now get an electric fan or interference producing device and put it near the cable. you'll hear interference. reconnect to the dac or whatever sound source, turn it on and repeat. there will be significantly less or zero detectable interference
Pure copper. Better cables have higher copper percentage and less resistance. Everything rest is bullshit.
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Silver cables are used for high precision electronics. To be fair I've never seen them used outside the RF lab
I almost never buy cables anymore. Whenever I get new gear I measure how long I need cables to & just make them. Aside from building synths it’s the most liberating thing.
I've been following Ethan Winer since the early 2000s on various internet forums & and his work has really let me stay away from most astrology for audio. Converters, isolation pads and what not. Thank you Mr Winer. You are appreciated.
he's a legend
Abi selam, seni burada görmek ne güzel 😄
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Converters are astrology? Seems like you are the same like the guys who belief in gold cables. Of course converters make a huge difference that you can hear and dont need to be measured.
@@StotheEtotheB if there's a huge difference you will see it in the measurements
Great stuff! Can´t wait to see the whole interview.
you guys are the Julian Assange and Edward Snowdon of the music world, keep up the great work . . .
So.... a cia psyop...🙄
Both, due to their theft and lies got a family member of mine wounded.
@@EdwinDekker71 Ha ha ha.
@@NuclearDeathWalkI call bullshit.
What are you talking about? Snowden and Assange both literally colluded with foreign agencies.
Oxygen ‘free’ copper wire is very sensible. It is also barely more expensive. I’ve used OFC bulk wire in my studio builds since the 1970s. That’s long enough so I can see the difference. It’s not even claimed to be a sonic matter.
I still have 4 Realtraps I purchased about 20 years ago from Mr Winer's company. I'd been working as a house engineer for a record company studio and as the industry changed rapidly, the studio sold to one of those AE schools that seems to produce far too many graduates who love the audio woo, so I went freelance and did the bulk of my work from home. Having been spoiled by an Eastlake designed studio and other high end locations with expensive LEDE designs, I was not looking forward to getting consistency in a non bespoke type location. I got lucky in that the house I purchased had a loft room with asymmetrical ceilings and it was built of mostly brick with slate tiles on the top. The floor can still be a problem but a lot of heavy furniture, strategically located heavy rugs and a couple of locally built bass traps deals with the worst. The Realtraps, along with a lot of positional tweaking has led me to having a room that is surprisingly good and it didn't cost multiple 100s of 1000s! Mr Winer, along with Tom Hidley have long been the experts I trust the most in the area of room treatment.
High end HiFi is the best for pointless spending:
`The Odin 2 Mains Power cable opens up your system to a new level of performance with excellent depth by eliminating your system's noise floor. This is achieved through the combination of Odin 2's conductors and their construction.` ... only £21,275 for 1.25m of cable ;)
Don't forget the fuses: Quantum Science Audio (QSA) Red-Black High-End UK Mains Fuse - 3A, 5A & 13 Amp ... £2,400 incl VAT :o
21k? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i'd like to see how johnson noise is eliminated with a power cable lol
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The Odin Gold is £31k lol
@@oblitafier Fuses are the cherry on top :D
Great video. I’m looking forward to the full version.
Any audio cable that is less than 5 feet in length and costs more than $500 is a fraud!
8:07 You should have uploaded the full length version in the first place.
why do you think that? i was considering it but the short version got way more views than the uncut version
This is the first time I ever really consciously WANT to be a geek. Thank you for this research and Ethan Winer interview.
One of the best Mastering Engineers I know (who will remain nameless) uses Amazon Basic cables and his internationally renowned clients and their fanbases have no complaints 😅
I'd did think your compressor and e.q. videos were bollocks but this was very enjoyable. People need to talk about this more. I've spent fortune on cables due to lack of knowledge over the years. Well done.
not sure what you didn't find convicting in those vids, in part 3 of both the eq so compression videos i just present objective evidence which can't really be argued with
But it's oxygen free! Which means it hasn't rusted. Yet! 😂😂
Also a 2020 user. And I also have the Neumanns… so they’re good. Totally agree with the cables. For power adequate gauge and that’s it. Speakers too… have always done the forehead smack over directional speaker wire. For AC? Signal cables: mostly about ease of physical handling. Obviously the shield can’t open up and become compromised but that can be helped by proper coiling. I discovered where to put my money in the studio when I didn’t have a lot. Now that I can afforded things I still don’t waste money. Nice build quality is nice. Lastly: Rupert Neve make quite a few discoveries by taking notes on things that failed on his consoles that sounded better according to the client. Use your ears.
Many Audiophiles do not know the fact that copper leads signal equally good in both direction. That gold cables were invented for cold climate/situations and prevents you from breaking the cable in extreme conditions and that a power cord is the worlds best speaker cable.
But all Guitar Techs do.... We are able to save you a lot of money!
Loving these debunked videos man. Found your channel recently and I am learning so much. Liked and subbed brother!!!
nice one
Audiophile power cables are just laughable. The last few feet/meters after the outlet wouldn't make a dent even if they would make a difference, which they don't. With audio cables, shielding is important, and balanced cables can be a huge improvement, especially on long cable runs. Good built quality is always important, but everything else is pretty much snake oil.
I remember talking to another engineer and he said something about having the fancy power cables plugged straight into the wall outlet, and I said, but the wall outlet has 50m of cable behind it which ends up at the street and from the street its got another 100m of cable on it before it gets to the power line transformer etc....
Nashville has always been its own audio community, adopting digital technology early and embracing other new technologies that pass the muster of consensus. One time during the late 80s the local AES chapter in Nashville had a shootout of speaker cables in a double blind test. Just for fun, the guy setting up the test threw in coat hanger to see what would happen. Oddly enough, in spite of all of these esoteric speaker cables with all of their claims… COAT HANGER WON! No one could believe it, but it was true, measurable and verifiable with data. 😂😂😂
There is some credence to expensive gear. Tube distortion can sound way different than diode clipping and anything involving tubes done right, will be quite expensive. The real question is, will it really make enough of a difference to be worth it on a particular project. Personally the most satisfying distortion effect box I ever used, is available on the aftermarket for round 125 bucks. Physical gear is great but you don't always have to spend a lot.
tubes are expensive as far as electronic components go but you can still make a decent tube circuit for less than $100
ETHAN IS THE MAIN MAN.
Kool that you also have discovered him as he is highly respected and a man with good moral character unlike many out there seling SNAKE OIL.
So your saying my $7k dollar speaker wires that are cryogenically treated wont make my MP3 Ipod sound better !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I agree Although i did spend some money on my sound rooms . Made me feel better but I never really did notice any major difference . I always do choose XLR cables when possible .
Dig it. Look forward to the full interview
We use 13awg copper cables at 10m+ for connecting 4000w per channel amps to large subwoofer arrays for outdoor parties and raves.
10awg copper costs around $10/m wholesale.
Ethan nails it again.👍
Anyone that has "technical knowledge" of audio electronics "knows this stuff".
Hey man! Really enjoying your vids! Can you do headphones next , I recently watched 100s of videos telling me the hifiman Sundara headphones have such amazing detail and kick and slam but when I got them they just sounded tinny and flat! Are the headphones channels a scam to?
most of those guys don't know what they are on about. ive tried hifi man headphones and some of them are borderline ok but you cant go wrong with sennheiser 6** series. Also most audiophile headphones seem a bit unethical because they use "calf leather" etc. Any time I've worn such headphones in the past I just cant enjoy the music as I'm hyper aware I'm wearing a dead baby animal on my ears.
@@APMastering I only have a £120 fiio k11 DAC Amp , do you think it makes much of a difference compared to buying a £500 amp for mixing?
@@ajayrajkumar3505 i don't know what that one is specifically
Oh man... This video made me dig out my old textbook from college. I'm so glad I kept pretty much all of them. If I can read the whole thing and fully understand it, I might have to make the Bob Katz book next on my book purchase list. I remember looking up the K-System before LUFS was a thing & man did this video bring back memories!
Can't wait to watch the full video & I subbed to his channel.
You haven't missed on a single video yet 🙌🙌🙌🙌
thanks!
I'm not a huge fan of bob Katz to be 100% honest, I used to be in like 2005 and he got me interested into mastering but since working as a mastering engineer for 15+ years, I tend to not like his book THAT much any more. I might review it at some point.
@@APMastering Curious to hear your takes on super loud masters for modern EDM. Dan makes a great case for preserving Dynamics, I wonder if you agree on that, disagree, or have a completely different view on it all together. The positive LUFS memes are hilarious, but I would defo love to have your insight and hear your take on everything considering the quality and level of details of your videos so far!
@@5adb0i lufs is essentially just bullshit. if EDM artists want to crush their music to a square wave, then they have every right to. And I have every right not to listen to their square waves
@@APMastering 🤣😭🤣😭
@@APMastering Any specific reason as to why? What caused the shift?
I'm extremely curious about plugin saturation vs hardware saturation and if there is a real difference in any measurable way
Hardware distortion is less linear due to electric components error. More or less. Less is better, but if error offset is too low, then sound will be too sterile and it become not so pleasurable. Usually components error offset should not be higher than 2-10%.
It's pretty easy to visualize differences with Plugin Doctor's Hammerstein analysis. It works with hardware too (most of the time). Driving at different levels than the default is important.
@@sparella yea but you can see the presence of harmonics on the graph but is there anything about hardware saturation that makes it better sounding? Maybe not - but then why would anyone spend thousands on a culture vulture vs decapitator, for example
@@bradleypower4803 You can listen to hardware vs software demos and decide for yourself, but the answer for me is that hardware saturation almost always wins. Software is great for everything else. To that end, the units in my 500 rack are all saturation modules.
@@bradleypower4803 Because some people loves this particular sound and the gear. Its not about better. Really dont get the point. If I cant afford it I dont buy it and just use something else it will do the job anyway. If I like something I will spend the money they ask for, its that simple.
Ethan's mojo maestro is the most fun I've had with distortion ever.
Me personally using good custom clean pre and an external bic transformer between mic and pre if vocal needs some gentle coloration. Enough for a good record. Simple canare cables.☺️
There is a Colour module version of Ethan's Mojo Maestro circuit. It seems pretty heavy handed for bus use, but probably okay on individual instruments.
th-cam.com/video/oua_dLgW6i4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=riVOoRmvbw-0Y1jd
i was going to make my own bus processor with transformers, FETs and vactrols but i'm focusing on plugins right now. maybe next year
@@APMastering You might consider using 2520 format discreet amps (DOAs) where appropriate for further mojo nuance. The CTX Colour is cool in that regard.
@@sparella if I make it, I'll just use standard FETs and opamps, I don't think anyone can tell the difference in clean gain ranges. I could do a blind AB video though
@@APMastering Have a listen to the acoustic guitar performance in Professor Dan's 2520 Opamp Shootout and you might change your mind.
Brilliant interview! Can you answer in one of your videos what the difference is between digital microphones that you plug into the USB port of your computer, and all the non-digital microphones you plug into an audio interface? Is one better than the other? It seems audio equipment is moving progressively toward digital, so why does everyone want a microphone like the one Frank Sinatra was recording on in the 20th century?
good question! i've never tested them. but if you record a session with a band playing live in the studio you will appreciate xlr cables and a mixing console!
The primary differences USB microphones have the analog to digital converter built in. They also sometimes have headphone amplifiers built-in as well.
@@RealHomeRecording Thank you. Do you know how the sound quality compares? There is an AT2020xlr and an AT2020usb.
@@APMastering You're probably certainly right, but I think most people who watch your TH-cam videos don't have a live band or a studio. They also don't have all that technical junk that has to be plugged into everything else. Good audio interfaces aren't cheap. I think people who watch your videos are not working professional recording technicians or whatever they're called. I think most of us are individual people who just want to know how to record our own vocals, or our own guitar, or both together. I don't know what city you live in, but where I live, a recording studio costs hundreds of dollars an hour to rent. If you want a human technician to set up and operate a bunch of equipment and to make the actual recording, you're looking at more than a thousand dollars for half a day.
@@g.e.miller4335 my personal fav studio costs just a couple of hundred per day but normally you'd need an engineer. As I'm the engineer, I don't have to pay myself, which saves me a lot of money... or makes me a lot of money.... it depends on which hand gives the other hand the money.
I love this content! Thank you. I rather enjoy all the disgruntled comments too 😂 The implementations of all this audio technology is so subjective, it’s nice to hear someone keeping it real.
I have tested- The new basic cables don’t sound as good as the basic cheap Hosa brand of 20+ years ago. there is cheap metal going around. Stick with the brands you know are using higher grade quality metal.
have you null tested?
You should interview Bob Olhsson. I've worked with him for 22 years and I still can't fit all the knowledge in my puny brain.
email me his contact and i'll see if he's up for it!
@@APMastering or interview @EdPettersen 22 years is a lot 🙂
@@APMastering Will do!
Bob is THE man
@@mirkomarkovic3438 You ain't kidding!
can’t wait! GREAT content!
There's so much of it and there are some thing where there is a noticeable difference but the problem is the cost to the amount of difference is criminal.
Pure silver cables for instance, will give you a 1% max difference of transparency but cost 17 times more than the next best cable... you're much better off upgrading something else which will give you a better increase of quality.
I think if you changes a whole studio to have all pure silver wires it would be a bit better over all and be more noticeable than just one wire... but... it'll cost you the cost of the entire studio again to do that, and again, you'd be best spending that money on things that will make a bigger difference.
Then with power cables it makes even less sense, no difference, but lets be generous and say it lasts longer and less likelihood of the power fluctuating due to the wire itself (which barely ever happens), again the price bump doesn't fit that.
You again will be better off upgrading the power supply, and that will only make a difference to a point, you can only give something it's most optimal power supply for it's components before upgrading that is worthless.
That is only a thing due to companies cutting cost because the power supply difference does make enough difference to make a product more expensive.
Only if you want to be obsessive would you need to do that anyway.
All of this is basically doing up a entire house from scratch and putting the most amount of money into the skirting boards
If you can’t hear a difference in audio cable you should stick with the cheap stuff. That’s the right gear for you.
if you don't understand what a null test is then the expensive ones are the right gear for you.
My friend look into quantum audio@@APMastering
Null test does not work there
Thanks again, Alain. Looking forward to watch the whole interview!!!
I hope people go past through the denial phase when they realise all this info is for their own benefit 😂, your channel is making a real difference. 👏👏👏👏
thanks! i will balance it with more music production stuff soon too
He is talking about power cables , not audio cables right?
both but mainly power cables
@@APMastering Looking forward to the full interview to hopefully understand it better
Other music channels really hate this guy 😂😂😂😂
"I like distortion" if this man wasn't 3 times my age I'd make him my best friend
I mean guitar cables make a difference. Impedance, noise, and how long they last.
Power cables, he's correct.
he mentions guitar cables in the full interview
PS Audio make some nice gear, but they are trying to convince the world they need a power regenerator because mains power is so noisy and rough.
I love how they can say that, meaning their amps are so shoddily built that their power supplies can’t achieve anywhere near the performance of a $200 PSU for a PC.
exactly! good power supplies don't have to be too expensive. even manley are turning to switching power supplies.
Someone should go after summing mixers, monitor isolation pads and external clocks too.
i think summing mixers are stupid, isolation pads are like gaffa tape on leaking plumbing and external clocks are for the most part snake oil outside of a few niche applications
Dan Worral has a good video on analog vs digital summing.
Great content! Can you please consider making some videos about the following:
Claims such as the old Atari computer is “rock solid on midi” and better than a modern DAW 😅
MPC swing is “magical” and can’t be replicated in your DAW 😅
IsoAcoustics ISO Puck makes your speakers sound better 😅
those are some good ones! mpc and artari myths were big when i was a teenager in the late 90s
Nice. Audio esotericism is one of my pet peeves.
For a second i thought this was a Ethan Winer takedown video and I was so confused
ha ha no you can't take ethan down
Didn't think so
Please do a video with studio microphones being all the same. 😃
they aren't though
Cheap coat hangers work just as well as $1000 speaker wire.
i normally use lamp cord. i have some more expensive cable for my mastering speakers that i got from a friend for free many years ago
I dare you to plug a speaker cable into a guitar and guitar amp though. 😂
@@RealHomeRecording yeah it's too heavy gauge and guitar pickups are too low impedance so the effect is huge compared to most other gear
@@APMastering 😀
This is a throwback joke to when this guy many MANY years ago did just that and complained about the amount of noise it picked up. People skewered him in the comments' section and it took years for him to finally mark the video unlisted/private.
NICE! Ethan's awesome.
Used to watch Ethan a lot
Upu only need durable cables if players step on them, especially heels.
On cheap gear, saturation, etc. I had a local live sound guy compliment my production on a record I did for a local band. He put it on his house music playlist. It was tracked with Samson drum mics, SM57s and 58s on guitars, MXL 990 on vocals, and a behringer interface combined with a focusrite for 10 channels total, some summed even through a hill multimix (actually quite a cool and useful piece of gear for preamp drive). Mixed in pro tools with only free or stock plugins.
nice!
@@APMastering Thanks! Working on the next one now, and it's going to sound even better thanks to more cheap microphones and cheap inputs now that I have an X18 digital mixer haha
At2020 sounds like a u47? Dude some of this stuff is so hard to stomach lol. I've spent hours EQing those hot spots out of at2020 recordings
Also, the part about cassette tapes sounding better than digital.
The information about the power cables was spot on but I haven't got to the microphone section yet. If he really did say that LOL.
i have no experience with that particular mic tbf. i could do an AB at some point if i buy one and visit a nice studio with nice mics
@@APMasteringit would be an interesting comparison. U47 FET vs.At2020, AT4033 and a more vintage sE.Electronics 2200 if one can be found used.
The AT4040 is sibilant garbage... don't bother with it. Same with a stock tube Rode NTK... The amount of people recommending that microphone to me back in the day and then I was so disappointed with the way it sounded...
tbh i'm a real fan of dynamic mics for most things. but i've not recorded for a while now. i was thinking about doing condensors vs dynamic mics as overheads
Billie Eilish recorded Ocean Eyes on the AT2020 and it has a billion and half streams on Spotify alone.
u need to interview jim lil if we're talking evidence based audio
never heard of him will look now
oh the mic video guy. video was great
Thank you brother
Omg now hes coming for my gold tipped usb cables!
I agree with him 100%.
Cables even look like Snakes
Anyone believing the nonsense about audiophile power cables almost deserves to be scammed, but anyway. I did laugh about his comment on the HiFi press. Every time I see an article by "Kashfia Kabir" ("audio editor" at What Hifi?) all I can think is "diversity hire". Maybe that makes me sexist and racist, but I'd really love to know what makes this girl some kind of audio expert. Seems to me that her main "qualification" is just journalism. What Hifi could never (would never) employ someone like myself because I'd be brutally honest and not just regurgitate the BS that the advertisers in that magazine want me to write.
I have a couple of cables that sounds like shit, BUT i bought a mogami super quality and sounds much better then I compared it to a pighog and they sound identical, so long story short , cables do matter but you don't need to expend much just be careful and test them
sure if one is the wrong gauge or something it can make a difference
But gold fuses are cool, right? 😂
They sound so shiny. I like wooden knobs, they sounds so much more natural and smooth. Just make sure they're sanded the right way or you'll RUIN the soundstage
New drinking game, take a shot everytime Ethan blinks.
Now here we agree, heh. Hate the expensive cable weirdos.
Legend
It’s not fraud! It’s appropriate marketing, to the appropriate audience. And it’s the morally correct thing to do! As per WC Fields: it is morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money.
All he says it's great and I believe he's a great guy, but what is up with his eyes?
dunno, some people have stuff like that i guess, i just focus in his message
I'm completely on board with the sentiments expressed here, but here's a correction... The AT2020 is NOT an LDC. The diaphragm is closer to an SDC....
Ego food for moneyless mediocres.
My intentions are not argumentative. However, I will gladly be the first and take all the shame and bashing that comes along with it in saying, two pieces of audio material that null out perfectly CAN audibly sound different.
😅😂 If it nulls they ARE the same. If you think you hear a difference it’s entirely in your head. A null test is mathematical. As accurate as 1-1=0.
@@pillowhead4000 like I said. Sure.
Sure, in your head
yeah the point of a null test is to demonstrate if two signals are identical or not. if they are different, you hear that difference. but even if you can hear the difference in isolation you might not hear the difference in practice
If signals that null sound different, then there is an additional variable after the signal that is unaccounted for.
Yup Ive been agreeing with Ethan for many, many years. Way back from the late 90' early 2000ish. There is soo much "mojo" and lies out there.. 👍
I really do miss seeing his posts on the gear space forums. 5:02
“Audiophilia” is all about eyes. Not ears.
It's magic crystals for guys.
No, it's not. Or else everybody would use Behringer and Warm Audio.
@@Sagerydian 1. That's not audiophilia, that's music recording. 2. Everyone else are using Behringer and Warm Audio.
@@RegebroRepairs Not really. I'm a recording engineer and a guitar player and I don't know any fellow guitar player using Behringer effects. One uses a warm audio centavo - but states that it sounds nothing like a Klon. Cheap audio gear is overrated.
@@Sagerydian Mmmm, give him some magic crystals for xmas.
The man is wrong though. A twisted pair will reject external EMI, a balanced cable could allow long runs without picking up rf, Silver can offer electrons a less resistive path, while gold can resist oxidation. Mixing metals causes Havok long term. Cable characteristics matter, and honestly, I been watching you post garbage and im contemplating doing an expose. There's so much nuance your looking over, and your mixes aren't.. umm.. good? Foks are better off understanding the nuance, rather be told blanket statements that cables are a fraud...
please do a video exposing all the falsehoods i promote on my channel. you probably want to learn more about electronics if you think you can hear a difference because of the
also afaik, mixing metals is not a problem per se, but if you twin aluminium conductors with steal and copper for electrical installations you get a fire hazard. i lived in an old flat where this was the case. mixing metals can be totally fine otherwise jewellery wouldn't exist
Do it.
@@APMastering😂....Gold has a lower conductivity......hence...the cables sound " WARM" from that heating up..& "SMOOTH"..because that's how gold feels to the
"owners touch"😅😂😂
@@analoghardwaretops3976 exactly
Mogami makes the best cables bar none.. good shielding..
have you null tested? I find that the build quality is perfectly fine but the prices are a bit high.
STOP! ENOUGH! Stop to make this type of videos, this is not the correct path to greatness or to be famous. Go to make music!
You are one of those tree-huggers, aren't you?
use a null test on a sensitive amp and a cheap cable.
If an amp is "sensitive" IE the input impedance is very low or something, then different cables could sound different due to parasitics of the output stage of the previous piece of equipment being loaded down etc
I did a few videos with Ethan. To me he is the James Randi of audio!
Ethan has been debunked many times over the past 20 years for some of his claims. I take anything he claims with a grain of salt
which claims? by who?
@@APMastering Just look at his hilarious converter shoot out that said a Lavry is the same like a Soundblaster pro.
His blinking is doing my head in...I'll skip the full length I might have a seizure :)
Ahahaha.... nice to see you here. Guess you have a different approach on a couple things or did you put your power cables and iso puks to the waste after this video? 😅
So the guy talked and blinked. I saw no more proof than the cable believers. This is not how science is presented. Both sides are full of loud mouths. Once again, science is done by writing a paper and having it run through peer review. Or at least a panel debate to actually look like you’re trying.
he's done the tests and was discussing those tests
@@APMastering I didn’t see the testing. I can do testing all day long. It means nothing without peer review or a form of certification. At this moment all cable talk is equal to politics. I’m a retired electrician engineer myself from the healthcare industry. I have extensive knowledge of cables and I also know proper data. I can’t say I disagree with any or all of his comments but it’s simply comments from a guy who identifies as someone important. And writing a book isn’t proof of anything. Many people write books. I want to see studies data and verification of both. No TH-cam channel follows that scientific method. That’s why everyone to this day fights about it like politicians.
I’m not jumping yours or his butt. I’m pointing out the failure from this audiophile community.
GO BACK TO ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING STUDIES @@Pksparty2112
Does this guy blabbing have one hit song on the radio?
yes
hell thats a lot of blinking
If you're a sound engineer and can't hear the difference then maybe you're not that good. Examples - Bernie grundman and Kevin gray both have their mastering and cutting rooms kitted out with audiophile cables because they hear the improvement.Gilmore of pink Floyd has his whole studio fitted with Kimber because he and other mix engineers can hear the improvements. For this guy in the video to say its all a scam because of what's on the scope is stupid. hifi and sound and production is about hearing yes, maybe he should actually go and hear then....
he built a cable null tester and most of the cables he tested nulled so completely that johnson noise was the limiting factor
@@APMastering looking at a scope to hear the difference dosent work......listening does though...do some of that instead.
@@richardtaylor8363 did you listen to what ethan said in the video?
@@APMastering I did yes, that's why I'm commenting
@@richardtaylor8363 so you'd know he's not looking through a scope and is listening (to delta)
Nope, ive done these test. Cheap cables can absolutly kill hf response. Also, its not just one cable. When recording 24 tracks the bad cables stack up to be dull. Another completly wrong you tube video.
stacking is debunked. with a short balanced cable of decent gauge there's no audible difference
I never liked Ethan Winer. Condescending and holier than thou attitude.
Damn, Blinky
Neurological issues here?