We all have our opinions. I believe that Spy is an amazing role in my opinion. It has the ability to catch many hidden evils that people may not know are in play especially in game modes such as all any. I can see how it can be less fun in ranked or town traitor.
@@dexterlily3266 honestly we got Invest percept for one night only visits, while Spy is like "checks every evildoer who visited them or something evil related effect such as Arsonist douse or Plague". I don't like playing Spy but I can see the merits of having a spy is just to check if every informer role or town protective is saying the truth
To be honest I am very disappointed in seeing that there are no Amnesiac changes. It is a very swingy role that needs a good town role to die in order to help the town more. I also feel that the uncertainty of the role an Amnesiac will be come when multiple non-town power town roles die such as becoming Sheriff over Vigilante.
I think Amnesiac is fine as it is when thinking about fixed role lists specifically. its a "support" role, so its going to be a swingy role by design. Retributionist has the same issue that amnesiac has too, but to a lesser extent. the issue with Amnesiac is that it SUCKS in All Any, by design its meant to be a failsafe role that stops town from lacking something because of an unlucky N1 death. this can happen in AA, but AA already throws you into super odd situations so amnesiac is only ever good in AA when a TPow or Deputy dies (because it allows town to have two unique roles). Amnesiac essentially just roleblocks itself N1 and that's about it. Its good in normal fixed lists and does its job as support well, but in AA or other chaos lists its really bad. theres not really much that can be done to change Amne besides maybe allowing them to remember a specific role during the day as a day ability and becoming that new role at the start of night
These are my theories: Jester: get permanent 1 defense and maybe can do a "fake visit" Exe: can see whether their target is sus or not in order to be able to fake claim sheriff Pirate: search other people's home for their stealed treasure and once they find it they leave, so no more attacks or RNG NA: probably gonna have to do with how they transform and technical stuff Socialite: can see the exact role of the target ONLY if nobody else is in party So yeah, kinda of a bummer they didnt try to fix Dreamweaver or Shroud since they are objectively the worst roles in the game but oh well
My guess is that exe, dep, lo, pirate, pb, sc, spy, and invest will just have their btos changes, necro and ret will have priority reworks, soc will be more like btos crusader, and idk for the rest
I don’t see why people hate shroud yeah sure it can be annoying but you have kill potential isn’t that fun? Besides you get to screw over anyone for not visiting or visiting the wrong people besides NK is fun no teammates to hold you down
Spy changes!! Yesss, I freaking hate that role
We all have our opinions. I believe that Spy is an amazing role in my opinion. It has the ability to catch many hidden evils that people may not know are in play especially in game modes such as all any. I can see how it can be less fun in ranked or town traitor.
@@dexterlily3266 honestly we got Invest percept for one night only visits, while Spy is like "checks every evildoer who visited them or something evil related effect such as Arsonist douse or Plague".
I don't like playing Spy but I can see the merits of having a spy is just to check if every informer role or town protective is saying the truth
I hope they don’t screw up the roles that most are already content with like poisoner and witch.
yea, i have no idea what they're doing with those roles so im hoping its like a minor change to how they play and nothing too crazy
To be honest I am very disappointed in seeing that there are no Amnesiac changes. It is a very swingy role that needs a good town role to die in order to help the town more. I also feel that the uncertainty of the role an Amnesiac will be come when multiple non-town power town roles die such as becoming Sheriff over Vigilante.
But I’m happy to see what’s going on and an excited for these reworks/balances.
I think Amnesiac is fine as it is when thinking about fixed role lists specifically. its a "support" role, so its going to be a swingy role by design. Retributionist has the same issue that amnesiac has too, but to a lesser extent.
the issue with Amnesiac is that it SUCKS in All Any, by design its meant to be a failsafe role that stops town from lacking something because of an unlucky N1 death. this can happen in AA, but AA already throws you into super odd situations so amnesiac is only ever good in AA when a TPow or Deputy dies (because it allows town to have two unique roles). Amnesiac essentially just roleblocks itself N1 and that's about it.
Its good in normal fixed lists and does its job as support well, but in AA or other chaos lists its really bad. theres not really much that can be done to change Amne besides maybe allowing them to remember a specific role during the day as a day ability and becoming that new role at the start of night
These are my theories:
Jester: get permanent 1 defense and maybe can do a "fake visit"
Exe: can see whether their target is sus or not in order to be able to fake claim sheriff
Pirate: search other people's home for their stealed treasure and once they find it they leave, so no more attacks or RNG
NA: probably gonna have to do with how they transform and technical stuff
Socialite: can see the exact role of the target ONLY if nobody else is in party
So yeah, kinda of a bummer they didnt try to fix Dreamweaver or Shroud since they are objectively the worst roles in the game but oh well
My guess is that exe, dep, lo, pirate, pb, sc, spy, and invest will just have their btos changes, necro and ret will have priority reworks, soc will be more like btos crusader, and idk for the rest
great theories, though i feel like pirate is going to remain a killing role, but they're gonna rework the condition for when/how they kill
I'm thinking Pirate just steals their ability or something idk, like what the BTos2 does using the Auditor
@@blatantslander nah it's confirmed pirate is just Inquisitor now
I don’t see why people hate shroud yeah sure it can be annoying but you have kill potential isn’t that fun? Besides you get to screw over anyone for not visiting or visiting the wrong people besides NK is fun no teammates to hold you down
No ww rework/buff sucks :(
maybe next season, but i do think WW is in a great spot as is with their fake claim potential