Smash Player Tries to Guess How Good Street Fighter Characters Are ft.
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Today we're doing a fun exercise - I got a professional Smash player and commentator to try building an Ultra Street Fighter 4 tier list! Will he be able to guess how strong USF4 characters like Chun Li, Elena, El Fuerte, and Dee Jay are?? Let's find out!
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I watched the Elena set after we did this and I'm so sorry you guys had to deal with that
HEALING!
She was broke af when she came out. Now she's just very strong. Not top 5 but def top 7-8. Evil ryu/Akuma/Yun/Seth/cammy/decapre/poison (last 3 are arguable depending on who you talk to) are just so much better.
She was mid tier in SF 3 so they made her a bit better in SF 4 but the Ultra system made her sort of broken
I feel like you guys had to deal with MK in brawl worse than Elena at the end of USF4's lifespan. I'm sorry you had to deal with that
I remember that Top 8 actually being pretty hype. But, it had more to do with knowing and liking the players who made top 8. So, even if Elena matches can be slow they can also be very tense. Especially in EVO top 8. GF was kind of lacking that year, but I remember the rest of top 8 (or at least top 4) was pretty sweet.
Also, I remembered people hating Rolento WAY more back then. The Infiltration vs Gamerbee set (Loser's semi-finals or Loser's finals?), had Infiltration hover over Rolento during a character change and people booed. I believe he said it made him not choose Rolento. But, it was still funny and hype cause after hovering over Rolento the camera cut to Infil laughing and Gamerbee shaking his head at him.
"Smash players LOVE tier lists"
Ok, now I see why he invited CONEY
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He has so many tiers to make
"OOOHH We have this in our game. his name is SONIC THE HEDGEHOG" had me rolling💀
i never thought about that before but fuerte and ssb Sonic do play really similar
15:59 One of my favorite quotes from Coney to date lol
Ult Sonic certainly ran so USFIV El Fuerte could trip.
The collab I didn’t know I wanted, but am very glad to see.
Coney’s reaction to Elena’s “healing” is how everyone feels whenever she lands it
JESUS
I’ve been watching a Hearthstone series following this style where Runeterra players guess how good Hearthstone cards are - this is a fantastic idea!! Looking forward to more videos following this format.
yup I love those videos as well :) shoutouts to @rarran
Don't think it's the same guys, but I saw a series where a yugioh player tries to guess how good MtG cards are
@@GeebusCrust pretty sure that was DuelLogs
@@jmcrofts hey, when you said, "yeah elena is crack". What does that mean? You think ur slang words are cool or practical but they are quite the opposite.
@@shen-long9082 www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cracked
Found out about jmcrofts after Coney talked to him on stream and now I'm a sub despite not playing any fighting games. jmcrofts videos are just that good
Well hey, it's never to late to try them!
I'd say the best videos to watch, if you're not into fighting games, are his combo trial videos, tournament match analysis videos, and his top "blank" videos. Really the videos where he just talks and goes into detail about the subject.
He also does some trivia FGC game shows.
Hey C_Splash, when the bald youtuber was talking about elena & that she's top tier, he also said "yeah elena is crack". Can you plz tell me what does that mean??? This youtuber thinks his slang words are cool or practical but it's quite the opposite.
@@shen-long9082 Damn bro you gonna really shade JMCrofts because he's bald? Lmao 💀
@@shen-long9082 "Cracked" means "on crack", AKA something is supercharged like someone who's on crack cocaine
You should do it the other way around, you guess a smash bros teir list. Maybe for a game like smash 4 bc it’s teir list isn’t well know (well bayo and cloud are known) but the rest of its tier list is unique.
I think any Smash game would be interesting. I don't think crofts has played much Smash at all of any kind. Ultimate is a huge game and there's no way Crofts would know everything.
@@ultimatederp5069 I know Croft didn’t play much smash ultimate but your right any smash game would be cool although he should get like esam or marss (no offence coney) to explain the character or watch a tournament set of the character then guess where they place.
Esam is the last person Id get for giving character breakdowns
@@danielf1833 why, he’s a pro player and if not who would you recommend
@@Lop_123 i know im a month late but esam is known for having... interesting... takes. I'd pick Marss, he knows a lot but he's also pretty funny
Now I need to see this in reverse, jmcrofts doing a Smash Tier List
This video is the definition of “never in my life have I needed something so much and didn’t know until I received it 😏”
i like how you bring out the teeth tier list for the intro there, shit goes crazy.
this is a good idea and very fun. another version could be that you show online/tournament highlights from some of the best players with the character and have someone guess based off that.
Just started the video. How is Coney only gonna work with 5 teirs?!
This is a really sick concept and I would love to see more of it, seeing Coney look at MvC or P4AU would be dope
Id be down to see you try to rank smash characters with coney, this was way too entertaining and i need more
Love this video concept so much, would literally pay money for like a 4 hr stream where you do the entire cast. UMVC3 would be a great other one to do, mostly because I feel like a non-player would think absolutely every character is broken.
God I can't wait to see what Coney says
Edit: no freaking way he did Fuerte like that LMAO
Holy shit, is this a thing for Fighting Games?
I love watching these kinds of videos for CCGs, I'd be DOWN for a lot more of these
I wanna see you guys go over Xrd so I can see his reactions to Elphelt and Johnny.
This is such good content! You did a great job giving Coney enough info to make educated guesses, while letting him figure things out on his own. Really informative!
(I've followed you intermittently since seeing you post on the SA games forum ages ago. It's crazy to see how you've blown up!)
That was great. I feel like I learned a bunch about sf4 and it was a fun watch. Great content!
Now I want to see coney test jmcrofts on smash ultimate tierlists
This was pure awesomness, I'd definitely love to see more.
This is so great and fun!!! Ty so much for including us smashers in the convo
Funny that Coney didn't say "He's good but I think it's somewhere between" and then makes 20 tiers between Middle and Low all with very specific titles like "Worse than Guile LOL" and "Okay for casuals but not good by any other means"
I would love to see more of this kind of content it was super interesting to watch.
I would LOVE to see the other side of this where you guess a smash tier list
Now do this with various content creators and rank them in a tier list according to their tier list abilities
Can we PLEASE get the inverse of this I would love to see Jmcrofts try to judge how good smash characters are while Coney has the answers.
You should do more videos like this. I love this concept
We need CONEY to get jmcrofts to do a smash tier list now
It takes a lot of imagination to come up with a fun video like this! Keep it up :)
I would love to see the inverse, Coney shows you smash characters and you try to rank them. Would make for some fun content
I’d love something like this for Guilty Gear XX. They kinda all sound god tier out of context which makes trying to rank them weird
Two amazing content creators
I like this concept mate! you should deff keep doing similar stuff! =D
Really cool content guys - congrats!
You spoke it into existance. We need you ranking smash characters
This was a great idea, loved the video. Gotta bring Rarran for the next one
I’d love to see this in the reverse where jmcrofts tries to guess where characters are on the tier list in smash games
I loved this! I play smash and played FGs a long time ago, this is some fun content.
After watching the end of the video, I will say that the reverse of this with you doing a smash tier list and coney hosting would be very entertaining.
Excellent and interesting content as always 😁
Awesome collab, very funny and entertaining.
I NEED to see you do the Ultimate tier list haha. Even Ultimate players can't agree on who's in what tier.
What a great collab, two GOATS
The collab I never knew I needed
Love this idea, super fun video concept
Love how you're playing the SF6 Ryu theme
I mained Dee Jay in USF4 (got to B Rank) and between him being a charge character and having that crouch medium 1 frame link, I did consider even right to if not worse than Dan. Don't get me wrong, DJ had a lot of cool stuff (Super cancels into Ultra 1 for high damage or insane chip, machine gun upper into dash/walk Ultra 2) but his core gameplay was just not as good as other characters. I love that character though and would love to see him make a strong return.
Been waiting for this vid ever since I saw coney do this live
Pleasantly surprised with this collab
More of this please! Id love to see Coney look at Marvel vs Capcom
If you do this sort of video again in the future, you should leave characters placed on the tier list wherever the guest thinks they should go so that we can see the tier list they have come up with at the end.
This is a collab I didn’t know I needed
Please do more of these!
This was really fun to watch
We need more of these
Honestly do this for more games other than Street Fighter this was so fun to watch
Jm finally got ludwig on no way dude
Sick collab
Coney on the channel? Such a dub
didn't know i needed this thanks 😂
Such a fun collab!
First Jwong and now Coney? JM the crossover god
Considering how close Coney got with this tier list, I bet would probably enjoy playing other fighters
bro called T Hawk Mexican 🤣😭😭
Two dope content creator I'm glad to see collab
Would love to see the reverse of Coney making you guess Smash characters
I think we NEED this video in vice versa
This was a good watch.
very good quality video. much love
Coney and Uncle are a hoot! More please!
Yooooo my current two favorite fighting game content creators.
During the intro when you mentioned the vod I immediately head over to twitch
Crossover bigger than Street Fighter and Tekken: JMxConey
Coney invading traditional FGC is what I need
This is a very fun format, would love to see this done with other games.
omg what a crossover how awesome I love JMConey
Ayyy what a great collab
Tier lists. And Coney. I love a good garbage fire in the morning.
“Smash players love tier lists… and fighting game players love tier lists too!” Daaaayum shots fired, lol.
I sometimes wake up in the cold of the night to El Fuerte noises.
Dj knee can hits meaty af..wow the active frames are crazy
This is a cool video! You should try and rank brawl/smash 4 characters :)
Now you have to make a tier list for smash
this is the crossover of the century
To describe Elena to a smash player, just say Wii Fit Trainer
Was this inspired by Rarran's Heartstone vids by chance? Been loving those.
It’s true between Coney’s mentally unstable tiers and Leffen’s old ultimate tier lists for best dressed nothing will ever satisfy the craving for more tier lists
Is there an inverse of this? SF player guessing Smash chars?
now i want to see coney quiz jm on smash 4
Would be great to see you doing one for Smash and see how you do.
What's the song that played during T Hawk's segment?
You should definitely do this but the other way around for brawl
Of course the example tier list of Coney’s was the Teeth Tier List
Second part plz. Very good video
this was great
Great video
I would love to see this the other way around, even if JM doesn't know anything about Smash. Just do it off of what Coney says like reverse of this video