They did my boy so dirty, it actually hurts. He's still cool though. (Lowkey I think Sakurai was scared of how big Ridley would have to be, and so I think he intentionally made him bad just to make sure he wouldn't be a problem)
I can't believe I understand all of Coney's 10 added tiers after like 2 minutes of existing. I honestly think all these tiers are needed to get his point across better. Like, how else would you describe Ultimate Villager other than "in the wrong game".
I always kind of laugh when I think about Pit's existance in Smash. He's an honest character with fundamentals up against characters who can kill you at 60, characters who get rewarded for losing, characters with wild gimmicks that can change a match, and characters with a 5.99 price tag (also known as the "all of the above" characters).
In smash brawl, it was meta knight's world and pit was just living in it. In smash 4, he was mid in a game where anyone below top 10 was feeding on scraps and the best were jankily broken In smash ult, he's good in a game that powercreeped him out of high tier and into mid by characters that cost money. Pit is just the average man; fuedal, medieval and modern.
For that reason I always dread going against a Pit player, because they *will* be indignant about how they're honest and you're not. Bro, click another character, please.
I've seen broken Pit mains. In Smash 4 one was out to call Roy the worst character in the game because he couldn't handle the comparisons, even labbed Roy to "deconfirm" stuff, to somehow make Pit look better. Wonder how he did when Ult Roy became a thing and Pit was still Pit. That said, I did play the E3 Smash 4 Pit. Best version of Pit I ever played, I understand why he got nerfed before launch.
Zackray is amazing, I'm a pit main who's believes in the character and I'm glad I can finally point to someone other than RaZe to show the characters good
I work at a liquor store in a fairly rough area of the city I live in. My manager is pretty cool with everything as long as we get the work done right so I’ve been getting to tune in to the coney streams a lot more often lately. On a particularly slow night on my own with hours left on my shift I decided to tune in and watched this live it was a great time. Thank you Coney for helping the slow days go by quicker.
I really wish these tier-list vids are longer, 'cause I fuckin' adore seeing Coney go off about his experience with some characters. Those who say it would be too long & boring are weak.
The stream are genuinely so much better than watching the TH-cam videos and then going back and watching the videos is just like a highlights to laugh at
@@blackbird2937nah the odds of all 4 of their mains being in the lmao tier is like 70%, LMAO tier's only reason for existing is to give Sm4sh characters a home because they were all LMAO characters
21:51 I see Smash 4 Lucas in “Who Is This For?” tier. Well let me tell you. Lucas was the character I played the most in Brawl, but I only started caring about the competitive scene at the beginning of Smash 4. Lucas wasn’t added yet, so I decided to play Mario because I heard he was a good character for beginners. That didn’t last, so for a months I would pick up a new “main” (I just learned that word so I used it a lot) every two weeks or so, drop them, and move on to the next. Everything changed when Lucas was announced. I still have a picture from 2015 of my TV with Lucas’ splash screen on it. To this day, Lucas in Smash 4 is the only dlc character I’ve genuinely been hyped for. I hadn’t played any of the other dlc characters’ games except Steve, who I didn’t want, and Mewtwo, because I didn’t know what it truly meant yet. I watched every Taiheita set. I labbed d throw up air (but not the footstool setups because I’m bad). This character taught me how to space aerials with fair, cross up shields with nair, basically how to play the game. I poured my heart into this character. And then Mewtwo got buffed and I comained Mewtwo Fox for the rest of the game
At first I was like ??? At coney’s PM placements but then he clarified that he’s going by 3.02 and now I’m like “ah, yeah, that makes sense lmao” (mix everyone with a healthy dash of “wow what an asshole” and “lmao”) E: Lucario in fan psyop, ESPECIALLY 3.02 Lucario with 4 less frames on ASC, is *chef’s kiss* and I ABSOLUTELY fell for it. He basically didn’t have a shield tho LOL
Somebody make a mod of Ultimate that patchess every character into the highest tier version of themselves they've been. Melee Fox, Brawl Meta Knight, Sm4sh Bayonetta, the works.
I want to see how Coney would place old Brawl Minus characters, since I know he used to play a lot back in the day when I was the director of the mod :)
Fsmash getting more lag and ftilt getting weaker were really the only nerfs that hurt him. Honestly he would've fallen off even if he weren't nerfed because of how much more there was to learn of the game. Now everyone knows their kill confirms and DLC is out. Pichu doesn't really matter anymore.
Project M has the same problem as Guilty Gear where you'll love your own character but absolutely hate every character that isn't your own because of the BS they can do.
Nah fr ive never seen someone (who wasnt ALREADY on the path do that crap) kill someone or sell themselves for weed lmao. That right there is the exact difference. Its WAY better than alcohol and we all know how much of a fit everyone threw when THAT was taken away lmao. you cant compare weed to HEROINE and COKE. thats like comparing apples to..... HEROINE and COKE .
Coney no you forgot about Smash 4 3DS!!! It’s a tooootally different game from Wii U and should have all of its characters represented in this tier list!
After picking up wolf, I can say coney was 100% right. They pretty much fulfill the same function as brawl marth, no match-up is unwinnable, and despite being top tier, they're sick as hell and not painful to play as or against
I almost clicked away in the first 30 seconds, but man I’m glad I didn’t. I forgot how great Coney’s tier lists are. Please keep adding tiers. Great movie
I like to play Mii Gunner because I can use charge shot without feeling the weight of my evil actions weigh on my shoulders every time it kills at 20, and I have a functional forward air / up smash
Referring to Kazuya as “the logical conclusion to man’s folly” is perhaps both the funniest and most accurate way to describe this character
Whats man's folly
@@GingerbreadSoullessFolly: lack of good sense; foolishness.
@@micahfurlow2624 thanks
That's definitely how Heihachi sees him.
100%, it's so accurate
It’s not a Coney tier list moment without “MORE TIERS SkeletonPls.” It’s almost like a tradition at this point. 😅
'I hate to do it..' while Coney has a shit eating grin
Trueeeeee
FELLAS
MORE TIERS
what is pm smash?
i love how everytime coney touches that gear the skeletons pop out from the grave screaming about tiers
I think everyone in chat just has it copied and immediately pastes it in chat as soon as he goes “I hate to do this…”
Fuggin..bars
brawl falcon is a multiversus character
LMAO
“Trained wrong as a joke” fits Ridley so perfectly. Biggest character but a lightweight, has wings but also a shitty recovery, and a useless down-B.
But Skewer is fun so it's okay
They did my boy so dirty, it actually hurts. He's still cool though. (Lowkey I think Sakurai was scared of how big Ridley would have to be, and so I think he intentionally made him bad just to make sure he wouldn't be a problem)
I can't believe I understand all of Coney's 10 added tiers after like 2 minutes of existing. I honestly think all these tiers are needed to get his point across better. Like, how else would you describe Ultimate Villager other than "in the wrong game".
They all made perfect sense, and it's actually insane that he accomplished that
Congrats to the editor for making this 3 hour stream a half hour video
Editor also loves Mario Kart music
I think terry is such a fun hype character because hearing him say “are you okay!?” and sending your ass flying is so incredibly funny
Buster Wolf is the most hype move in every game it's in
8:26 this is the greatest out of context Screenshot
Rent was running low for coney
Who needs pocket money when you have a pocket Dedede in Brawl 🥵🥵🥵🔥🔥🔥
Lol true
It's time for coney does tier lists. So that means MOOOOOOOOOORE TIEEEEEEEEEERS.
I always kind of laugh when I think about Pit's existance in Smash. He's an honest character with fundamentals up against characters who can kill you at 60, characters who get rewarded for losing, characters with wild gimmicks that can change a match, and characters with a 5.99 price tag (also known as the "all of the above" characters).
In smash brawl, it was meta knight's world and pit was just living in it.
In smash 4, he was mid in a game where anyone below top 10 was feeding on scraps and the best were jankily broken
In smash ult, he's good in a game that powercreeped him out of high tier and into mid by characters that cost money.
Pit is just the average man; fuedal, medieval and modern.
For that reason I always dread going against a Pit player, because they *will* be indignant about how they're honest and you're not. Bro, click another character, please.
I've seen broken Pit mains. In Smash 4 one was out to call Roy the worst character in the game because he couldn't handle the comparisons, even labbed Roy to "deconfirm" stuff, to somehow make Pit look better. Wonder how he did when Ult Roy became a thing and Pit was still Pit.
That said, I did play the E3 Smash 4 Pit. Best version of Pit I ever played, I understand why he got nerfed before launch.
@@Tinkererer was a pit main for years, pit is NOT honest, he's just mid
Zackray is amazing, I'm a pit main who's believes in the character and I'm glad I can finally point to someone other than RaZe to show the characters good
Before he mentioned PM I actually though "the one we're not supposed to talk about" was referring to the 3DS version lmao
LMAO
I work at a liquor store in a fairly rough area of the city I live in. My manager is pretty cool with everything as long as we get the work done right so I’ve been getting to tune in to the coney streams a lot more often lately. On a particularly slow night on my own with hours left on my shift I decided to tune in and watched this live it was a great time. Thank you Coney for helping the slow days go by quicker.
"He deserves his own tier list" is the most Coney sentence ever
I really wish these tier-list vids are longer, 'cause I fuckin' adore seeing Coney go off about his experience with some characters. Those who say it would be too long & boring are weak.
It's why I'm watching the VOD. Great stuff, and some hilariously bad takes
@@DeronHargrove Is the VOD for this vid out? If so, where is it available?
@@lancifer_56709 His twitch channel. Just go to past broadcasts and it's the 5-day old one. Should be easy to find by the thumbnail
The stream are genuinely so much better than watching the TH-cam videos and then going back and watching the videos is just like a highlights to laugh at
I don't know what it is, but I could listen to Coney talk about this shit all day, this is hypnotizing
Commentators smh
This is such a good concept, i love coney's takes on characters!
coney ended up picking EVERY MAIN I HAD IN SMASH 4 for the LMAO tier, really says a lot about me
i think it says more about smash 4
I think it says more about you. Reevaluate your life choices
blackbird bro calm down its a fighting game
Same
@@blackbird2937nah the odds of all 4 of their mains being in the lmao tier is like 70%, LMAO tier's only reason for existing is to give Sm4sh characters a home because they were all LMAO characters
As a Shulk main, I’m so happy when people acknowledge the potential argument is nonexistent at this point
Ultimate Sonic is just Smash 4 Sonic but he somehow tricked his parole officer into thinking he cleaned up his act
not even a minute in and there is a new tier added. I wouldnt have it any other way
i loved the part where the tier list had more tiers than characters
16:09 I love how the chat is all just going 🤨
21:51 I see Smash 4 Lucas in “Who Is This For?” tier. Well let me tell you.
Lucas was the character I played the most in Brawl, but I only started caring about the competitive scene at the beginning of Smash 4. Lucas wasn’t added yet, so I decided to play Mario because I heard he was a good character for beginners. That didn’t last, so for a months I would pick up a new “main” (I just learned that word so I used it a lot) every two weeks or so, drop them, and move on to the next. Everything changed when Lucas was announced. I still have a picture from 2015 of my TV with Lucas’ splash screen on it. To this day, Lucas in Smash 4 is the only dlc character I’ve genuinely been hyped for. I hadn’t played any of the other dlc characters’ games except Steve, who I didn’t want, and Mewtwo, because I didn’t know what it truly meant yet.
I watched every Taiheita set. I labbed d throw up air (but not the footstool setups because I’m bad). This character taught me how to space aerials with fair, cross up shields with nair, basically how to play the game. I poured my heart into this character.
And then Mewtwo got buffed and I comained Mewtwo Fox for the rest of the game
64 Kirby had to be a psyop, but in a different way. He was really good because he is Sakurai’s baby, so he mad him awesome
And then they never let him be good again.
9:22 Aah I get it, pit is like frieza in fighterz, would be snapped in any other fighting game but gets outclassed simply by the Environment he's in.
At first I was like ??? At coney’s PM placements but then he clarified that he’s going by 3.02 and now I’m like “ah, yeah, that makes sense lmao” (mix everyone with a healthy dash of “wow what an asshole” and “lmao”)
E: Lucario in fan psyop, ESPECIALLY 3.02 Lucario with 4 less frames on ASC, is *chef’s kiss* and I ABSOLUTELY fell for it. He basically didn’t have a shield tho LOL
what do you think is the best PM patch? I'm curious
Joker is unbelievably well made....to a fault. He's almost a perfect character, he has exactly what you want for EVERY button.
He’s the only top tier I don’t hate for being top tier.
I'd agree, but gun and tetrakarn are too much. Seriously, you can do arsene down gun into up smash; just no.
I'd love this but with coney interspersing with little clips sometimes to showcase what he means for the people who have never seen a game of PM
If he looked at clips he would have to redo his tierlist because the characters changed
Somebody make a mod of Ultimate that patchess every character into the highest tier version of themselves they've been.
Melee Fox, Brawl Meta Knight, Sm4sh Bayonetta, the works.
This is truly a More Tiers™ moment.
17:35 PM Snake: "THERE!"
I think this is the first smash related tier list that coney made that didn't make me mad.
Ultimate puff is very fun. Also Melee puff is so fucking cool
Every time a new Coney vid drops I always make sure to preemptively turn my volume down at LEAST 5 notches in preparation for the FELLAS
18:52 The running away isn't the issue with ult pac man. It's the fsmash. It's the nair. The fair. It's his bloodlust
It's the down air that will catch you at the end of the earth
I want to see how Coney would place old Brawl Minus characters, since I know he used to play a lot back in the day when I was the director of the mod :)
why hasn’t anyone done this before it’s such a good idea
Can't wait for the VOD to come out in August
I need the full VOD
I always thought pichu was crazy because ppl told me that at the start of ultimate and I never saw it get nerfed
Fsmash getting more lag and ftilt getting weaker were really the only nerfs that hurt him. Honestly he would've fallen off even if he weren't nerfed because of how much more there was to learn of the game. Now everyone knows their kill confirms and DLC is out. Pichu doesn't really matter anymore.
I'm need the full video, I'm really curious what the takes were for characters like link and sephiroth
Love the tier list videos
"He has his own game plan and it involves cheating"
So just Wario
Does Coney still do tier list Tuesday? Because I live for these
Your descriptions of Kazuya, Hero, and Melee Doc have me convinced that us casting at G8 was destined lmaoo
Him not even putting his steve defense in the video is peak.
With this many characters, gonna have to watch the vod AND this video
Project M has the same problem as Guilty Gear where you'll love your own character but absolutely hate every character that isn't your own because of the BS they can do.
You did great coney. Started with 5 tiers, Ended with too many. But you missed Bowser. How on earth did that happen.
Thank you coney for this awesome video particularly the part where you played Maple Treeway from MKWii that shit is my jam.
Coney will never start out with enough tiers
Such a great video idea, glad he did it Justice
1:29 OK there is a ginormous difference between weed and heroine
Found the junkie
Nah fr ive never seen someone (who wasnt ALREADY on the path do that crap) kill someone or sell themselves for weed lmao. That right there is the exact difference. Its WAY better than alcohol and we all know how much of a fit everyone threw when THAT was taken away lmao. you cant compare weed to HEROINE and COKE. thats like comparing apples to..... HEROINE and COKE .
Steve is 100% a psyop. I do not believe for a second that they didn't know what they were creating.
coneys videos always make me grin from ear to ear i look psychotic
As a melee sheik and PM Zelda I can confirm I am an asshole
I think coney has an addiction to adding more tiers
re: Plant in "Who is this for?"
Me. I was very surprised to learn this when I tried him but it's true.
Melee Fox and Falco canonically do drugs
Hero is 100% chemical X. In the most balanced and fair Smash game, they made a DLC character with RNG
I can't wait until Coney makes a tier list with more tiers than entries.
The first thing he puts up is already not a tier list at all. Love coney
Coney no you forgot about Smash 4 3DS!!! It’s a tooootally different game from Wii U and should have all of its characters represented in this tier list!
“Falco is good in moderation, never do fox” is what I want in my epitaph
I think Smash 4 Roy is the epitome of "in the wrong game". They barely changed him for Ultimate and he soars now.
Sora deserves the "YIPPEEEEEE" tier and you can't change my mind
man i just like to hear coney talk about things
Duck hunt is mad fun tho
Funny how Smash 4 Lucas, Ult Wii Fit and Piranha Plant are all in who is this for despite me sticking with them for a while now
LMAO gotta be my new favorite tier in any Coney tier list
After picking up wolf, I can say coney was 100% right. They pretty much fulfill the same function as brawl marth, no match-up is unwinnable, and despite being top tier, they're sick as hell and not painful to play as or against
I was not expecting my boi melee doc to be perfect tier
Putting ult jr in bad is genuinely psychotic behavior
MORE TIERS
What a hell of a long tier list
Getting validated as a Hero Main let’s go
I almost clicked away in the first 30 seconds, but man I’m glad I didn’t. I forgot how great Coney’s tier lists are. Please keep adding tiers. Great movie
Joker is so cool
Can someone please tell me the background song at 23:14 ?
Where was the stream on twitch?
This is the most coney video I've ever watched
Can somebody please send a link to this tweet for the image?
What's the first song that plays in the background?
What's the song on the majority of the video, at 13:00 for example? It sounds so familiar, but I just don't remember where I've heard it.
Maple Treeway- Mario Kart Wii
@@lewismax4056 Thanks a bunch, no wonder it was familiar. I never realized how well the tracks fits as background music
I like to play Mii Gunner because I can use charge shot without feeling the weight of my evil actions weigh on my shoulders every time it kills at 20, and I have a functional forward air / up smash
I statted maining bowser in 4, fucking love that character
never ask a coney viewer who he raided after this stream ☹️
Aware
who?
@@grunkleg.2934 oh no
Do any of y’all know where the vod of this video is?
Does anyone know the music that plays at the very beginning of the video?
where can i watch the full tier list stream?
What stream is this from, I can't find it.
the first coney video to reach infinite views
"So i did the math"
*counting*
Hi twitch chat! Happy to see you guys you all look great!😄
Fellas.
I’d like to argue that Ultimate DK is good ending lifestyle choice
Somehow this has less tiers than most coney tier lists
*Most Replayed* Brawl ZSS, y'all know what you're doing.
I totally get Plant being in the Who Is This For? tier but it at least still got the most LMAO reveal