This should be the only suspension how-to on TH-cam. Clear, concise and not over complicated from a guy that actually knows how to rip. Good work as always!
I totally agree. I've watch hundreds of suspension settings and each time I get more confuse. The 3 different settings that April demo really helps to paint a clearer picture.
I'd say i really like the perspective of many, and many have things to contribute. But this one is the best so far. There are a couple of quick setups that show a simplified way to quickly setup your shock, and just following that is not complete, but it enables people who wouldn't do any setup, to at least get it close to performing. So i like that one video for that too. And if the other vids didn't exist, Kyle and April's video might not be as good as it is.
I agree 1000%! Lye & Aprils are usually THE best. And that’s high praise coming from me, Mr TH-cam Critic. I call this phenomena of everyone redoing and rehashing and copy-catting everyone’s video #MetooMTB. I should start my own parity channel…🤔☝️😃 Great job as always K&A!👌
There's nothing worse than paying good money for equipment, providing decent adjustment options to taylor your needs, but then not making use of them ; i.e. running a bad setup and have your rig perform like crap! One might as well opt to run much cheaper pieces of suspension in the first place and save an awful lot of bucks if performance ends up being the same. Thx for your much appreciated efforts to educate novice riders!
Can't WAIT for the detailed 'how to set up' in the parking lot! Of course... that rebound and compression is ALL feel, right? Hope I can find a shop to HOOK a brother up soon! With experience on a sportbike, I know when I get it dialed, it's gonna feel GREAT! Thank you both for the hours you're dedicating to this! :-) Really appreciative of the clear technical descriptions! :-)
Kyle is super at explaining what to do, why, etc. April is great at explaining the learner’s side of things. Powerful instructional duo. Keep em coming!
Another complicated MTB topic that I never understood well...broken down into digestible pieces...with great explanations by Kyle, great real life examples by April, complimented with voice and text overlays. Well done Kyle and April !!
Literally could have called this Goldie Locks and the three bears type of suspension setup! This one's too soft! this one's too hard! This one's just right! Thanks for all the hard work guys.
I agree with all the positive comments. As a brand new mountain bike rider with < 1 month experience, the learning curve is intense. Your videos are 100% understandable and oh-so-helpful. Bike manufacturers should include a DVD with your videos with every new bike purchase. Some people don’t own DVD players anymore but many of us still do. Premium brands like Niner should hire Kyle and April to make a video for each bike model’s basic tune, then throw your skills workshop videos on the DVD for the other chapters. Customers will love it and the bikes will perform better and safer on average. It’s probably not going to happen, but we can dream. Thanks a million!
April, your part of this cannot be overstated. Watching your confidence grow with each video inspires confidence all around. Really pulling for you guys to succeed on every level - on camera and off camera!
@@XqDezzy10 not in my limited experience! I’m not sure if 160mm travel makes a difference or not but I haven’t bottomed out. Definitely helps with the fast/rough patches with the rebound set right.
Hey Andrea, if measured in your descending position I find that 30% is a really good setup but if measured seated it’s a little too soft for most people. If we have dive at all then we will just add some low speed compression
DUDE! I have watched SO MANY videos about setting up front and rear suspension. This is the first video that really translates and makes sense to help with setup. Thank you for making this!
'Think of your compression as a Stink Bug prevention device' - best statement ever lol!! Outstanding vid though. Best description I've ever come across on bike suspension. Great job!
Just purchased a high end Fox 36 with all the compression and rebound adjustability functions. Thought I knew enough to set it up; but, I was clearly wrong after seeing this video. Your descriptions were absolutely perfect and understandable...Far better than all the other videos I had viewed to this point. My heroes for sure! Thank you very much...Again!
I came here intending to watch a couple of minutes, leave a like and then watch the remainder tomorrow. Ended up watching to the end cards because of Kyle's clear, solid gold info and then April's infectious enthusiasm and smile. Great stuff, you two
It is the first video I've ever seen that connects it all very well together. Including practical examples of how things work in real life. Given that, it's not long at all. Thank you.
Hey 👋 Really glad 🙂 to see y’all back on the trails... having fun and helping us understand a little better. Kyle you’re a great teacher.... but always helps when you have a great student. Again, Glad y’all are back !!!!!!!
Bang on again guys. A much needed video by many! Great job as always and keep up the good work, guys! You're definitely affecting a lot of riders positively with your videos!
So many people have a bad MTB experience on their New bike because they don’t setup the suspension. It can be very confusing. I think your video does a great job explaining it and makes one want to go out and adjust it. Can’t wait for the next edit. As always....you guys Rock!
This is definitely one of the best breakdowns/explanations of suspension I've seen. Even people who know suspension well usually go through it too quickly/vague or go overboard with the info (both of which make it hard to grasp). I know people say it a lot, but you really have a way with teaching and breaking things down into easily consumable pieces. Thank you both for the great content, cheers!
Soooo much better than reading forums and researching suspension set ups for hours on end!! 🤘 I wish I could applaud more cause I learned so much! THANK YOU 💙
During the pandemic, I built up a new Orange stage 5 with the Durolux 36 29er. Since then i've switched all my forks over to the Durolux, so nice to easily adjust travel. I don't have to fiddle with a open-trail-lockout toggle, just set it up and forget it.
I just started watching and it's so cool having just watched the older videos of April learning tricks/techniques- and now they're in the intro! I'm getting so motivated to get on a bike.
They have great energy, as does does Blake, but i also love to watch Joy of Bike. Those guys are great and have a different approach. Get someone serious, add Kyle and April and add Joy of Bike, maybe gmbn and it's a pretty complete mix. There are a couple of other people who do thorough jobs too. I still have trouble with drops, i get it, then a week goes by, i get confused, lack confidence, watch some videos, go out and screw up again lol. It looks like everyone is hitting the drop the same, if you mute their sound, but the way they describe what they are doing is different, and that makes it confusing. I wish i had the drops that some of these guys have to practice on, they took the nearest ones down. I got some coaching but wiped out off a boulder in squamish and that set me back months.
Finding a “teacher” that you get how they teach is critical to really learning something efficiently. For me, how Kyle teaches is ideal. I think that’s a innate ability, part of someone’s personality…who they are and not necessarily taught. I think more people need to be exposed to these types of teachers and instructors. It’s really cool to be able to find this type of content on TH-cam. I hope the Myocarditis fades away and does it quickly. Love these videos. Can’t wait to see what’s next. I spied Kyle & April on video at Berm Peak opening day. I got my fingers crossed for a video drop soon. 🤞🏼🙏🤘🏻
I finally decided to try and set up my suspension with your guidance and tried it out this morning. It took some time, but I finally got it. Wow!! My bike rides so much better. All I can say is thank you for your TH-cam video. I have learned so much from you and April. Keep up the good work.
Amazing job explaining/demo'ing suspension concepts and variables!!! Please never apologize for making a longer vid...this is some serious gold you guys put much effort into sharing with everyone. You guys are willing to risk body & bike to demo the consequences of incorrect technique...Kyle, that was a serious take-one-for-the-team intentional front wheel washout in your braking skills vid...your explanation has likely saved many of us from losing our front ends while cornering. Now April's intentionally using incorrect bike set-up and enduring super-sketchy rock garden sessions for our benefit...huge respect for doing this to help us understand proper vs. incorrect set-up! You guys bring a ton of genuine positivity & knowledge to the MTB community...thanks for all! Stay safe, happy riding, & cheers from Chico :)
Shout out to your channel along with Syd and Mackey, I got into Niner because of you guys. I wasn't familiar with them prior, so thanks for all the great content.
Hi. Thanks for the video. I have a 26" hardtail, and was gifted an older Santa Cruz Bullit. The first thing I did was press the air valves - of course- and didn't realize I needed to pump air into the shock haha. I am learning and look forward to tuning the suspension.
DANG... How HARD is it to find someone to set up your suspension and teach alllll this 'on the trail'? Man - it sounds so simple... 30%... soft enough, and fast enough... LOL Oh man - you KNOW 20:10 - I WANT IT! lol - you guys rock! Thanks Kyle!! I love your detailed explanations!!! Thank you!! :)
I've watched COUNTLESS suspension vids and this is one of the best for sure. Thanks Kyle and April. Happy to know my bike is pretty dialed. Only problem I've been having lately is learning how to jump with the right set up. My local trails just built some pretty big jumps and I'm not sure what if any settings I should change. Maybe part 2 can have a chapter on setting up for medium to big jumps and drops.
Hey! Yeah that would be awesome to add in there! If anything I would just add a couple clicks of high speed compression and rebound if you have the option or if not than maybe 1 volume spacer in the fork and shock to help the bike resist bottoming!
Excellent video , now I just have to go back and rewatch a couple of more times so my brain can absorb what you're saying. I know it's not rocket science but there's alot there , which is a good thing. Thanks 👍
Kyle this was the best video on the subject I have ever watch to date. Your are one of the best mountain biking instructors out there. You are taking us to a whole different level of knowledge with simple and effective approach. We appreciate you guys hard work. 👍👍
This was REALLY helpful. I have been riding for many years but recently got my first FS and am pretty confounded by all the lingo. Bike shop has been great with setting up but now I understand better what is going on. And again, your relationship with April is just fun to watch, you both seem to really enjoy being together and that adds enjoyment to you videos. Wishing you both the best.
Some companies now provide more adjustments for the user. LSC, HSC, LSR, HSR and I have an old shock from 5th element with "progressivity" adjustment lol. Love your tutorials!
its a good thing you had to make 2 parts ; its a lot to take in! i already been learning about suspension, this vid came at the right time to help clarify it some more. really looking forward to part 2!
You have a way with explaining stuff that even a novice like me can understand and follow. Everything you explained I understood. I am thinking of getting a full suspension bike for leisure riding on NYC roads which are awful. I thought that maybe with dual S. it would make the ride better but now I see it has to be fine tuned for optimum benefit. With your guidance I think I can probably figure out what is best instead of just going with what the bike shop sets up for me. Thanks!!!
Today I wanted to set up my suspension for the first time. I just watched some videos but wasn't really getting it. This one is the last one I had to watch - thank you so much! I will go and play a bit and experiment with my suspension. Hopefully the next video is on its way, because I'm pretty sure I'll need it to fix my set up after trying it on my own :)
You guys are the best bike colleague ever!!! And so much fun ... thank you for sharing, keep doing what you love, i can see how you guys enjoy making these videos... 🚲 can’t wait to get my Santa Cruz to apply these knowledge...
Always loved the way you make things simpler to understand. Thanks again guys. I’ve shared the video with my friends as well hopefully it will help them lots. The biggest problem with suspension is suspension lol. And most guys just ride and purely set their sag and leave it there even with a high end shock that has 4 points of adjustments. Adjustments are key to ensure you enjoy your ride more. Now need to go find a coil shock that fits my bike. My air shock is driving me nuts.
Very useful video regarding the suspension. Right now, as I just restarted MTbiking after 30 years, I am still learning my bike so I can't be sure of my setup yet. I do not feel it enough when I make changes. If you guys continue to make instructive video like this, as a beginner, I'd like to learn more about the PSI in my tires, better use of my dropper, when to set my suspension to hard.- medium or low. tks guys for trying to make our life easier! :) Cheers!
Thank you for the great explanatory video of how suspension works! I only had a very superficial understanding of how it all worked before, but your video made it easy to understand. Looking forward to the follow-up on suspension set up! It will come in handy when I get my new full-suspension bike (currently on order).
Good stuff! Great channel and I always learn something. One addendum to the “soft and slow” setting. For those new to this, note the total lack of available travel in the fork as she’s riding by. That thing was done providing any useful suspension well before the corner.
What Kyle says here about rebound and bucking is really important. I might just add that if your shock only has low speed rebound adjustment and you still feel like you're getting bucked, you could take a couple psi out of the shock and maybe run just a little more sag to help fix that. Rebound damping rate is directly related to spring pressure. A lower spring rate (i.e. lower air pressure in the can) with the same rebound setting will result in a more damped spring. Hope this helps someone out there to not have to learn the hard way like I did.
Super good explanations of how suspension works! It is hard to diagnose issues because there are so many factors at work but your examples and demo really help. :)
This is one of the best "suspension" explanations ever! It would be great if you could explain how best to optimize different types of suspension (brands and levels within a brand) and of different types of terrains and trail features.
My first full suspension bike will arrive in a couple of weeks so I'll be anxiously waiting for that setup video in order to have it setup properly! Keep it up, guys!!! Cheers from Peru 🙌🚴♂️
Great video with all details explained. Some videos I watched to set up my rebound explained to tune it until it feels it works best. As a beginner I didn’t what how the best feels like. Now I understand what to look for. Thanks.
Excellent! I believe you mentioned the goals for the suspension is for acceleration and braking, you also should add it is crucial in flat and off camber turns to keep tire in contact with the ground. Nice job comparing coil and air shocks, it is a bit tough to do...but roughly speaking static sag is handled by the initial air pressure vs the threaded collar on a coil shock. Spring rate is done with volume spaces in an air shock versus spring swaps on a coil shock.
damn man.... FINALLY a real good video on yt about setting suspension!!!! Nice work...really. In particular, things like show us HOW a bad settings work (every other video talk about how a good setting work) and WHY it's good to have one setting beside other... and again, you don't only focus on top fork or shocks that have low/high speed comp click , but you talk for other folks like me, that have a fork with only rebound and grip damper open/close (like fox rhythm) . Super video.... looking for part two, with things like volume spacers and other. Keep it up :)
Thank you so much Andrea! We love sharing this info with you guys and trying to help people get the most fun and stable setup! Part 2 is going to be really fun!
You guys have the very best instructional vids. Kyle is an awesome teach and amazing rider! Thank you for that. Would love a vid on tail whips sometime!!
Great job Kyle. Excellent explanation of suspension and geometry of it all. Oddly enough completely revelant to vehicle suspension with the whole anti sqaut, etc. Awesome channel bubba, great information and your women is absolutely killing it. Your 150% positive vibe has always been mint.
Great videos! Each and every one of them. I was getting tired of all the ride-along videos and really wanted something more technical that explains the how, the why, and the why not. You deliver on everything. If you are looking to grow your channel with more content, I would really love a playlist called “Maintaining your bike” where you show all the basic maintenance, tuneups, as well as some more complex things like shock rebuilds, etc. If you don’t do these yourself, maybe the bike shop guys will let you record a video in the shop with them. Topics such as how often and when to perform maintenance would be great. I’d love to see the special tools as well as what products (oils, greases, etc) are great to use. Cheers!
The greatest video on suspension!! Kyle you’re a genius. How to explain so much, in laymen terms. I actually understood how to go and set up my Giant Trance that I’ve had for a year now. Wish I could meet y’all. I’ll be in Boise tomorrow and Thursday working. I know you’re dealing with the myocarditis issues. But if there is a chance let me know.
Great video and really accurate explanations. Perfect to understand what you are doing when setting up suspension and what happens mechanically if you do certain things. Really enjoying your videos. Keep it up! Hats off to you. Greetings from a german mechanical engineer ;)
This should be the only suspension how-to on TH-cam. Clear, concise and not over complicated from a guy that actually knows how to rip. Good work as always!
That’s so cool to hear! Thank you a ton. A lot of time and energy goes into these videos and hearing things like that really means a lot to us
I totally agree. I've watch hundreds of suspension settings and each time I get more confuse. The 3 different settings that April demo really helps to paint a clearer picture.
Agree! Best explanations and examples to go along with it. Better than any motorcycle suspension videos I've come across.
I'd say i really like the perspective of many, and many have things to contribute. But this one is the best so far. There are a couple of quick setups that show a simplified way to quickly setup your shock, and just following that is not complete, but it enables people who wouldn't do any setup, to at least get it close to performing. So i like that one video for that too. And if the other vids didn't exist, Kyle and April's video might not be as good as it is.
I agree 1000%! Lye & Aprils are usually THE best. And that’s high praise coming from me, Mr TH-cam Critic. I call this phenomena of everyone redoing and rehashing and copy-catting everyone’s video #MetooMTB. I should start my own parity channel…🤔☝️😃
Great job as always K&A!👌
Hope this helps a bunch! Part two coming soon! Thank you all so much for watching and for the support!!
There's nothing worse than paying good money for equipment, providing decent adjustment options to taylor your needs, but then not making use of them ; i.e. running a bad setup and have your rig perform like crap!
One might as well opt to run much cheaper pieces of suspension in the first place and save an awful lot of bucks if performance ends up being the same.
Thx for your much appreciated efforts to educate novice riders!
Thanks for all the great info! Tire pressure would fit in well with this topic.
Love ya guys!
Can't WAIT for the detailed 'how to set up' in the parking lot! Of course... that rebound and compression is ALL feel, right? Hope I can find a shop to HOOK a brother up soon! With experience on a sportbike, I know when I get it dialed, it's gonna feel GREAT!
Thank you both for the hours you're dedicating to this! :-) Really appreciative of the clear technical descriptions! :-)
OMG I finally get it. Eagerly waiting for part 2. Low speed and high speed settings aren't explained very well in suspension manuals.
Kyle is super at explaining what to do, why, etc. April is great at explaining the learner’s side of things. Powerful instructional duo. Keep em coming!
Thanks for the kind words Greg!
Are you following him? Not her but him still? He needs our support.
Another complicated MTB topic that I never understood well...broken down into digestible pieces...with great explanations by Kyle, great real life examples by April, complimented with voice and text overlays. Well done Kyle and April !!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!!! 😊😊😊
As with alot of knowledge, i thought i had enough knowledge until i saw this, and realized more depth.
Literally could have called this Goldie Locks and the three bears type of suspension setup! This one's too soft! this one's too hard! This one's just right! Thanks for all the hard work guys.
Haha I almost did! Glad you enjoyed it Hondo!!
This video is the definition of 'mountain bike suspension explained' a real how to and explanation.
Glad you liked it!
I just hit the like button before even watching the video, I already know its about to be fire
Haha thank you!!! 😊
I agree with all the positive comments. As a brand new mountain bike rider with < 1 month experience, the learning curve is intense. Your videos are 100% understandable and oh-so-helpful.
Bike manufacturers should include a DVD with your videos with every new bike purchase. Some people don’t own DVD players anymore but many of us still do. Premium brands like Niner should hire Kyle and April to make a video for each bike model’s basic tune, then throw your skills workshop videos on the DVD for the other chapters. Customers will love it and the bikes will perform better and safer on average. It’s probably not going to happen, but we can dream.
Thanks a million!
Glad our videos are so helpful to you and glad you have found mtb! We hope to be a great resource for as much knowledge as we can share 😊
April, your part of this cannot be overstated. Watching your confidence grow with each video inspires confidence all around.
Really pulling for you guys to succeed on every level - on camera and off camera!
I don't know how you do it, but your videos are the only ones i really understand and i can follow.
Thanks!
Thank you! Glad you like them 😊
Same!
I found that going from 20% sag to 30% sag made a huge difference with confidence! Thanks for the hard work you guys do. 👍
Glad you enjoy our videos! 😊
don't you have probem of fork dive, or easy bottom out with 30%sag?
@@XqDezzy10 not in my limited experience! I’m not sure if 160mm travel makes a difference or not but I haven’t bottomed out. Definitely helps with the fast/rough patches with the rebound set right.
Hey Andrea, if measured in your descending position I find that 30% is a really good setup but if measured seated it’s a little too soft for most people. If we have dive at all then we will just add some low speed compression
DUDE! I have watched SO MANY videos about setting up front and rear suspension. This is the first video that really translates and makes sense to help with setup. Thank you for making this!
Awesome, glad to hear!
Slow motion review really helps to highlight the performance of the bike across different settings. Excellent video.
Glad it was helpful!
I have watched a number of suspension videos like this, and this one is by far the best. Thanks for posting!
Glad to hear, thanks Dylan!
'Think of your compression as a Stink Bug prevention device' - best statement ever lol!! Outstanding vid though. Best description I've ever come across on bike suspension. Great job!
haha glad it was helpful!!!
Just purchased a high end Fox 36 with all the compression and rebound adjustability functions. Thought I knew enough to set it up; but, I was clearly wrong after seeing this video. Your descriptions were absolutely perfect and understandable...Far better than all the other videos I had viewed to this point. My heroes for sure! Thank you very much...Again!
So glad that it helped you!!! 😊
I came here intending to watch a couple of minutes, leave a like and then watch the remainder tomorrow. Ended up watching to the end cards because of Kyle's clear, solid gold info and then April's infectious enthusiasm and smile. Great stuff, you two
That’s so rad to hear! Thanks for watching it all the way through! I was nervous of the longer video haha!
Suspension 101. Great job. You explained it so simply.
Glad you liked it! 😊
It is the first video I've ever seen that connects it all very well together. Including practical examples of how things work in real life. Given that, it's not long at all. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey 👋 Really glad 🙂 to see y’all back on the trails... having fun and helping us understand a little better. Kyle you’re a great teacher.... but always helps when you have a great student.
Again, Glad y’all are back !!!!!!!
Bang on again guys. A much needed video by many! Great job as always and keep up the good work, guys! You're definitely affecting a lot of riders positively with your videos!
you guys are the best, easy to understand and you know what your talking about. best mtb chanel
Thanks so much fritts! It’s been so much fun making these vids for you guys!
Super video! I applauded for $5.00 👏👏
Thank you so much Jason!!! 😊
So many people have a bad MTB experience on their New bike because they don’t setup the suspension. It can be very confusing. I think your video does a great job explaining it and makes one want to go out and adjust it. Can’t wait for the next edit. As always....you guys Rock!
Thank you! We hope this will help a ton of people 😊
Super video! I applauded for $10.00 👏👏👏
Thank you Carlos!!! 😊
This is definitely one of the best breakdowns/explanations of suspension I've seen. Even people who know suspension well usually go through it too quickly/vague or go overboard with the info (both of which make it hard to grasp). I know people say it a lot, but you really have a way with teaching and breaking things down into easily consumable pieces. Thank you both for the great content, cheers!
Thank you so much!!! ☺️
Soooo much better than reading forums and researching suspension set ups for hours on end!! 🤘 I wish I could applaud more cause I learned so much! THANK YOU 💙
Thank you!!! 😊
During the pandemic, I built up a new Orange stage 5 with the Durolux 36 29er. Since then i've switched all my forks over to the Durolux, so nice to easily adjust travel. I don't have to fiddle with a open-trail-lockout toggle, just set it up and forget it.
That’s so cool! Yeah they have been such an awesome company to work with over the years!
I just started watching and it's so cool having just watched the older videos of April learning tricks/techniques- and now they're in the intro!
I'm getting so motivated to get on a bike.
Thanks Kylee, glad that our videos are motivating you!
They have great energy, as does does Blake, but i also love to watch Joy of Bike. Those guys are great and have a different approach. Get someone serious, add Kyle and April and add Joy of Bike, maybe gmbn and it's a pretty complete mix. There are a couple of other people who do thorough jobs too. I still have trouble with drops, i get it, then a week goes by, i get confused, lack confidence, watch some videos, go out and screw up again lol. It looks like everyone is hitting the drop the same, if you mute their sound, but the way they describe what they are doing is different, and that makes it confusing. I wish i had the drops that some of these guys have to practice on, they took the nearest ones down. I got some coaching but wiped out off a boulder in squamish and that set me back months.
Many times better explanation and tutorial than in any manufacturers videos... thank you!
Couldn't ride today because of the rain so the next best thing... Watch your video!
Awesome as always guys!
Thank you Peter!!!
Super video! I applauded for £2.00 👏
Thank you so much Alastair!
The only channel on TH-cam to learn the technical (scientific) stuff about MTB
Thank you 😊
Finding a “teacher” that you get how they teach is critical to really learning something efficiently. For me, how Kyle teaches is ideal. I think that’s a innate ability, part of someone’s personality…who they are and not necessarily taught. I think more people need to be exposed to these types of teachers and instructors. It’s really cool to be able to find this type of content on TH-cam.
I hope the Myocarditis fades away and does it quickly. Love these videos. Can’t wait to see what’s next. I spied Kyle & April on video at Berm Peak opening day. I got my fingers crossed for a video drop soon.
🤞🏼🙏🤘🏻
This video is awesome. My suspension feels so much better after following these instructions.
man you guys put out such fantastic videos for a noob like me to understand. Thank you!
Glad to hear it!
Thanks for the in-depth explanation of how suspension works.
I finally decided to try and set up my suspension with your guidance and tried it out this morning. It took some time, but I finally got it. Wow!! My bike rides so much better. All I can say is thank you for your TH-cam video. I have learned so much from you and April. Keep up the good work.
Glad it helped!
Amazing job explaining/demo'ing suspension concepts and variables!!! Please never apologize for making a longer vid...this is some serious gold you guys put much effort into sharing with everyone. You guys are willing to risk body & bike to demo the consequences of incorrect technique...Kyle, that was a serious take-one-for-the-team intentional front wheel washout in your braking skills vid...your explanation has likely saved many of us from losing our front ends while cornering. Now April's intentionally using incorrect bike set-up and enduring super-sketchy rock garden sessions for our benefit...huge respect for doing this to help us understand proper vs. incorrect set-up! You guys bring a ton of genuine positivity & knowledge to the MTB community...thanks for all! Stay safe, happy riding, & cheers from Chico :)
Thank you so much for the kind comment and appreciating what we do! 😊
Agree with TNW84! Add the 2 videos on suspension from BikeRadar and you get a complete picture from practical and theory side. Great video
We will have part 2 next and it should be really helpful!
Super video! I applauded for SGD 5.00 👏👏
Thank you so much!!! 😊
Shout out to your channel along with Syd and Mackey, I got into Niner because of you guys. I wasn't familiar with them prior, so thanks for all the great content.
That’s great to hear! Hope you love your Niner!!!
Hi. Thanks for the video. I have a 26" hardtail, and was gifted an older Santa Cruz Bullit. The first thing I did was press the air valves - of course- and didn't realize I needed to pump air into the shock haha. I am learning and look forward to tuning the suspension.
Haha glad you found this video helpful and we hope part 2 will help even more! 😊
DANG... How HARD is it to find someone to set up your suspension and teach alllll this 'on the trail'? Man - it sounds so simple... 30%... soft enough, and fast enough... LOL Oh man - you KNOW 20:10 - I WANT IT! lol - you guys rock! Thanks Kyle!! I love your detailed explanations!!! Thank you!! :)
Thank you!
your channel is one of the best for us mtb newbies!!! i look forward to the day when i have suspension i can adjust lol!
Glad you like our videos!!!
I wish I could you y’all the videos of me first trying to jump and drop and what I can do now!!! It’s crazy how much I’ve improved in 3 months
That’s awesome you have improved so much! We love to hear that 😊
Great video. Don't apologize for length, more info the better! :)
Thanks Scott!
Sag - I finally got a good set of calipers to measure my sag and it made it so much easier to get this setting right.
Having the right tools always helps 😁
Kyle, thank you for providing correct data about low rebound settings vs. jumps -- makes perfect sense now! ;-)
Glad it was helpful!
I've watched COUNTLESS suspension vids and this is one of the best for sure. Thanks Kyle and April. Happy to know my bike is pretty dialed. Only problem I've been having lately is learning how to jump with the right set up. My local trails just built some pretty big jumps and I'm not sure what if any settings I should change. Maybe part 2 can have a chapter on setting up for medium to big jumps and drops.
Hey! Yeah that would be awesome to add in there! If anything I would just add a couple clicks of high speed compression and rebound if you have the option or if not than maybe 1 volume spacer in the fork and shock to help the bike resist bottoming!
Excellent video , now I just have to go back and rewatch a couple of more times so my brain can absorb what you're saying. I know it's not rocket science but there's alot there , which is a good thing. Thanks 👍
Best suspension video I‘ve watched so far. So comprehensive, yet easy to follow. Thanks for the great work guys!
Thank you, glad you liked it!
Kyle this was the best video on the subject I have ever watch to date. Your are one of the best mountain biking instructors out there. You are taking us to a whole different level of knowledge with simple and effective approach. We appreciate you guys hard work. 👍👍
That’s so awesome to hear Julio! We love making these videos and sharing them with you all!
Good stuff! Liked the video of the bike going over the rocks with various setups at slow speed. You can definitely see and hear the difference.
Thanks Chad, glad you liked the different setup examples!
This was REALLY helpful. I have been riding for many years but recently got my first FS and am pretty confounded by all the lingo. Bike shop has been great with setting up but now I understand better what is going on. And again, your relationship with April is just fun to watch, you both seem to really enjoy being together and that adds enjoyment to you videos. Wishing you both the best.
Thank you so much Paul! So glad we can help! We love sharing this adventure with you guys!
Some companies now provide more adjustments for the user. LSC, HSC, LSR, HSR and I have an old shock from 5th element with "progressivity" adjustment lol. Love your tutorials!
its a good thing you had to make 2 parts ; its a lot to take in! i already been learning about suspension, this vid came at the right time to help clarify it some more. really looking forward to part 2!
Yes we are glad we split it into two parts as well, so much info 😅
Best video on suspension set up I've ever seen! Super well explained. The visual props and demos really helped too. Thank you!
Thank you so much Jeff!
You have a way with explaining stuff that even a novice like me can understand and follow. Everything you explained I understood. I am thinking of getting a full suspension bike for leisure riding on NYC roads which are awful. I thought that maybe with dual S. it would make the ride better but now I see it has to be fine tuned for optimum benefit. With your guidance I think I can probably figure out what is best instead of just going with what the bike shop sets up for me. Thanks!!!
Awesome Susan, glad this video was easy to understand and gave you more confidence to fine tune your bike. 😊
This video is so useful you don't understand how much you are helping me out right now!
That’s great to hear!!! 😊
Today I wanted to set up my suspension for the first time. I just watched some videos but wasn't really getting it. This one is the last one I had to watch - thank you so much! I will go and play a bit and experiment with my suspension. Hopefully the next video is on its way, because I'm pretty sure I'll need it to fix my set up after trying it on my own :)
You guys are the best bike colleague ever!!! And so much fun ... thank you for sharing, keep doing what you love, i can see how you guys enjoy making these videos... 🚲 can’t wait to get my Santa Cruz to apply these knowledge...
Thank you!!! Glad you gained some knowledge from this 😊
Always loved the way you make things simpler to understand. Thanks again guys.
I’ve shared the video with my friends as well hopefully it will help them lots.
The biggest problem with suspension is suspension lol. And most guys just ride and purely set their sag and leave it there even with a high end shock that has 4 points of adjustments. Adjustments are key to ensure you enjoy your ride more.
Now need to go find a coil shock that fits my bike. My air shock is driving me nuts.
Thanks for sharing and glad you enjoyed the video! Hopefully part 2 will help with tuning in your air shock if you don’t get a coil!
I like the way you explain the settings, it really helps me tuning my new bike.
penjelasannya sangat bagus sekali, mas Kyle. mudah dicerna dan lugas.
As always, a super helpful video. This is my favorite biking channel, And a lot of it is the positive attitudes
Thank you so much!!! 😊
thanks!!! Can't wait for part two .... starting to understand the suspension better!!!
Glad it helped!
Very useful video regarding the suspension. Right now, as I just restarted MTbiking after 30 years, I am still learning my bike so I can't be sure of my setup yet. I do not feel it enough when I make changes. If you guys continue to make instructive video like this, as a beginner, I'd like to learn more about the PSI in my tires, better use of my dropper, when to set my suspension to hard.- medium or low. tks guys for trying to make our life easier! :) Cheers!
Glad you enjoyed it! We have a part 2 coming, we have tire pressure on the list and many more!
I’m late to the video but as always you guys make it so simple and I didn’t know most that stuff, thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for the great explanatory video of how suspension works! I only had a very superficial understanding of how it all worked before, but your video made it easy to understand. Looking forward to the follow-up on suspension set up! It will come in handy when I get my new full-suspension bike (currently on order).
Glad it helped!
Good stuff! Great channel and I always learn something. One addendum to the “soft and slow” setting. For those new to this, note the total lack of available travel in the fork as she’s riding by. That thing was done providing any useful suspension well before the corner.
Very good job guys, complex things explained in a very consistent and clear way...way to go!
Thank you!
What Kyle says here about rebound and bucking is really important. I might just add that if your shock only has low speed rebound adjustment and you still feel like you're getting bucked, you could take a couple psi out of the shock and maybe run just a little more sag to help fix that. Rebound damping rate is directly related to spring pressure. A lower spring rate (i.e. lower air pressure in the can) with the same rebound setting will result in a more damped spring. Hope this helps someone out there to not have to learn the hard way like I did.
This guy is a God send 🙏
Thanks so much Hashan! It’s been fun making the videos for you guys!!
Very, very good video!!! Never seen a better one that explains so well the way suspension works. Thanks Kyle & April!
Thanks Rob, glad you enjoyed it!
Great info. I look forward to going back to a dualie and actually knowing what to do with it.
Great to hear Jason!
Great job and info 👍 suspension can be a pain to get right
Thanks Kyle & April. New bike is coming this week and this is very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Great job on the explanation of a topic that can be daunting for a newbie like me.
Thanks for watching it! Glad we could help a little bit!
Hi Kyle, April, this is one of the best explanation that I have seen so far......... good examples shown as well. Keep up your great work!
Great to hear, thank you!!!
Super good explanations of how suspension works! It is hard to diagnose issues because there are so many factors at work but your examples and demo really help. :)
Glad you found it helpful!
This is one of the best "suspension" explanations ever! It would be great if you could explain how best to optimize different types of suspension (brands and levels within a brand) and of different types of terrains and trail features.
Love the detailed explanations especially the "show & tell" of the hard and soft setups followed by the Goldilocks (just right) setup at the end.
So glad you enjoyed it Denzil!! Thanks a ton for watching! It was a lot of planning to put this one together haha
So glad you enjoyed it Denzil!! Thanks a ton for watching! It was a lot of planning to put this one together haha
My first full suspension bike will arrive in a couple of weeks so I'll be anxiously waiting for that setup video in order to have it setup properly! Keep it up, guys!!! Cheers from Peru 🙌🚴♂️
Awesome, perfect timing! Hope you like your new bike 😊
Great video with all details explained. Some videos I watched to set up my rebound explained to tune it until it feels it works best. As a beginner I didn’t what how the best feels like. Now I understand what to look for. Thanks.
Excellent! I believe you mentioned the goals for the suspension is for acceleration and braking, you also should add it is crucial in flat and off camber turns to keep tire in contact with the ground. Nice job comparing coil and air shocks, it is a bit tough to do...but roughly speaking static sag is handled by the initial air pressure vs the threaded collar on a coil shock. Spring rate is done with volume spaces in an air shock versus spring swaps on a coil shock.
What a great idea to talk about suspension in such details !! Good job guys
Thanks so much Romain! Hopefully it helps people out a little bit!
damn man.... FINALLY a real good video on yt about setting suspension!!!! Nice work...really. In particular, things like show us HOW a bad settings work (every other video talk about how a good setting work) and WHY it's good to have one setting beside other... and again, you don't only focus on top fork or shocks that have low/high speed comp click , but you talk for other folks like me, that have a fork with only rebound and grip damper open/close (like fox rhythm) . Super video.... looking for part two, with things like volume spacers and other. Keep it up :)
Thank you so much Andrea! We love sharing this info with you guys and trying to help people get the most fun and stable setup! Part 2 is going to be really fun!
The best explanation I've found, hands down. Thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!!!
You guys have the very best instructional vids. Kyle is an awesome teach and amazing rider! Thank you for that. Would love a vid on tail whips sometime!!
Thank you! A whip video is definitely on our list!!!
Love the comparison shots, really showed the difference, I only have a fork. had it close but I feel more confident to fine tune now.
Glad you feel more confident to adjust it now!
Great job Kyle. Excellent explanation of suspension and geometry of it all. Oddly enough completely revelant to vehicle suspension with the whole anti sqaut, etc. Awesome channel bubba, great information and your women is absolutely killing it. Your 150% positive vibe has always been mint.
Whats up guys 😁
Another great video! I picked up a new bike a couple weeks ago a 2021 specialized stumpjumper evo comp so far i am loving it!
Awesome, glad you are loving your new bike! 😊
Well explained - easy for this old guy to understand! Looking forward to Part 2!
Thanks Mark! yeah we just got part 2 all wrapped up and it will get posted next week when we get back from our coaching retreat!
Great videos! Each and every one of them. I was getting tired of all the ride-along videos and really wanted something more technical that explains the how, the why, and the why not. You deliver on everything.
If you are looking to grow your channel with more content, I would really love a playlist called “Maintaining your bike” where you show all the basic maintenance, tuneups, as well as some more complex things like shock rebuilds, etc. If you don’t do these yourself, maybe the bike shop guys will let you record a video in the shop with them. Topics such as how often and when to perform maintenance would be great. I’d love to see the special tools as well as what products (oils, greases, etc) are great to use.
Cheers!
That helped me more than a lot. Thank you so much :)
Awesome to hear!!! 😊
The greatest video on suspension!!
Kyle you’re a genius. How to explain so much, in laymen terms. I actually understood how to go and set up my Giant Trance that I’ve had for a year now.
Wish I could meet y’all. I’ll be in Boise tomorrow and Thursday working. I know you’re dealing with the myocarditis issues. But if there is a chance let me know.
Great video. As usual , you guys made it much easier to understand whats going on. Thanks. Cant wait for the next one.
Thanks Mark, glad you liked it!
Thanks so much. The best and most understandable explanation of suspension functionality and setup by far. You guys Rock👍✌🐺
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Great explanation. This will help me get set up better than I have it. Thanks.
Great video and really accurate explanations.
Perfect to understand what you are doing when setting up suspension and what happens mechanically if you do certain things.
Really enjoying your videos. Keep it up!
Hats off to you.
Greetings from a german mechanical engineer ;)
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
You guys deserve a million subs.. Good job! Keep it up🤙🏽
Thank you so much!!! 😊😊😊