How To Understand Suspension Setup
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- In this video we break down how suspension works and what changes you can make to make things better! This is part 1 of a 2 part suspension series, part 2 will cover how to achieve a good baseline on your personal bike!
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0:00 - 0:30 Intro & Overview
0:30 - 2:25 Sag = Traction
2:25 - 3:33 Ride Attitude
3:33 - 5:10 How Sag Effects Suspension
5:10 - 6:14 Spring Rate
6:14 - 8:12 Damping Overview
8:12 - 9:52 Rebound
9:52 - 12:34 High Speed Rebound vs Low Speed Rebound
12:34 - 15:14 Compression
15:14 - 16:10 April Tests Suspension!
16:10 - 17:13 Soft & Slow Suspension
17:13 - 18:02 Stiff & Fast Suspension
18:02 - 20:23 Just Right Suspension Setup
20:23 - 21:12 Overview & Thoughts - กีฬา
This should be the only suspension how-to on TH-cam. Clear, concise and not over complicated from a guy that actually knows how to rip. Good work as always!
That’s so cool to hear! Thank you a ton. A lot of time and energy goes into these videos and hearing things like that really means a lot to us
I totally agree. I've watch hundreds of suspension settings and each time I get more confuse. The 3 different settings that April demo really helps to paint a clearer picture.
Agree! Best explanations and examples to go along with it. Better than any motorcycle suspension videos I've come across.
I'd say i really like the perspective of many, and many have things to contribute. But this one is the best so far. There are a couple of quick setups that show a simplified way to quickly setup your shock, and just following that is not complete, but it enables people who wouldn't do any setup, to at least get it close to performing. So i like that one video for that too. And if the other vids didn't exist, Kyle and April's video might not be as good as it is.
I agree 1000%! Lye & Aprils are usually THE best. And that’s high praise coming from me, Mr TH-cam Critic. I call this phenomena of everyone redoing and rehashing and copy-catting everyone’s video #MetooMTB. I should start my own parity channel…🤔☝️😃
Great job as always K&A!👌
Hope this helps a bunch! Part two coming soon! Thank you all so much for watching and for the support!!
There's nothing worse than paying good money for equipment, providing decent adjustment options to taylor your needs, but then not making use of them ; i.e. running a bad setup and have your rig perform like crap!
One might as well opt to run much cheaper pieces of suspension in the first place and save an awful lot of bucks if performance ends up being the same.
Thx for your much appreciated efforts to educate novice riders!
Thanks for all the great info! Tire pressure would fit in well with this topic.
Love ya guys!
Can't WAIT for the detailed 'how to set up' in the parking lot! Of course... that rebound and compression is ALL feel, right? Hope I can find a shop to HOOK a brother up soon! With experience on a sportbike, I know when I get it dialed, it's gonna feel GREAT!
Thank you both for the hours you're dedicating to this! :-) Really appreciative of the clear technical descriptions! :-)
OMG I finally get it. Eagerly waiting for part 2. Low speed and high speed settings aren't explained very well in suspension manuals.
Kyle is super at explaining what to do, why, etc. April is great at explaining the learner’s side of things. Powerful instructional duo. Keep em coming!
Thanks for the kind words Greg!
Are you following him? Not her but him still? He needs our support.
Another complicated MTB topic that I never understood well...broken down into digestible pieces...with great explanations by Kyle, great real life examples by April, complimented with voice and text overlays. Well done Kyle and April !!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!!! 😊😊😊
As with alot of knowledge, i thought i had enough knowledge until i saw this, and realized more depth.
'Think of your compression as a Stink Bug prevention device' - best statement ever lol!! Outstanding vid though. Best description I've ever come across on bike suspension. Great job!
haha glad it was helpful!!!
Slow motion review really helps to highlight the performance of the bike across different settings. Excellent video.
Glad it was helpful!
I don't know how you do it, but your videos are the only ones i really understand and i can follow.
Thanks!
Thank you! Glad you like them 😊
Same!
This video is the definition of 'mountain bike suspension explained' a real how to and explanation.
Glad you liked it!
Literally could have called this Goldie Locks and the three bears type of suspension setup! This one's too soft! this one's too hard! This one's just right! Thanks for all the hard work guys.
Haha I almost did! Glad you enjoyed it Hondo!!
I agree with all the positive comments. As a brand new mountain bike rider with < 1 month experience, the learning curve is intense. Your videos are 100% understandable and oh-so-helpful.
Bike manufacturers should include a DVD with your videos with every new bike purchase. Some people don’t own DVD players anymore but many of us still do. Premium brands like Niner should hire Kyle and April to make a video for each bike model’s basic tune, then throw your skills workshop videos on the DVD for the other chapters. Customers will love it and the bikes will perform better and safer on average. It’s probably not going to happen, but we can dream.
Thanks a million!
Glad our videos are so helpful to you and glad you have found mtb! We hope to be a great resource for as much knowledge as we can share 😊
April, your part of this cannot be overstated. Watching your confidence grow with each video inspires confidence all around.
Really pulling for you guys to succeed on every level - on camera and off camera!
I just hit the like button before even watching the video, I already know its about to be fire
Haha thank you!!! 😊
man you guys put out such fantastic videos for a noob like me to understand. Thank you!
Glad to hear it!
DUDE! I have watched SO MANY videos about setting up front and rear suspension. This is the first video that really translates and makes sense to help with setup. Thank you for making this!
Awesome, glad to hear!
I finally decided to try and set up my suspension with your guidance and tried it out this morning. It took some time, but I finally got it. Wow!! My bike rides so much better. All I can say is thank you for your TH-cam video. I have learned so much from you and April. Keep up the good work.
Glad it helped!
I found that going from 20% sag to 30% sag made a huge difference with confidence! Thanks for the hard work you guys do. 👍
Glad you enjoy our videos! 😊
don't you have probem of fork dive, or easy bottom out with 30%sag?
@@XqDezzy10 not in my limited experience! I’m not sure if 160mm travel makes a difference or not but I haven’t bottomed out. Definitely helps with the fast/rough patches with the rebound set right.
Hey Andrea, if measured in your descending position I find that 30% is a really good setup but if measured seated it’s a little too soft for most people. If we have dive at all then we will just add some low speed compression
DANG... How HARD is it to find someone to set up your suspension and teach alllll this 'on the trail'? Man - it sounds so simple... 30%... soft enough, and fast enough... LOL Oh man - you KNOW 20:10 - I WANT IT! lol - you guys rock! Thanks Kyle!! I love your detailed explanations!!! Thank you!! :)
Thank you!
Many times better explanation and tutorial than in any manufacturers videos... thank you!
I have watched a number of suspension videos like this, and this one is by far the best. Thanks for posting!
Glad to hear, thanks Dylan!
Suspension 101. Great job. You explained it so simply.
Glad you liked it! 😊
This video is awesome. My suspension feels so much better after following these instructions.
Shout out to your channel along with Syd and Mackey, I got into Niner because of you guys. I wasn't familiar with them prior, so thanks for all the great content.
That’s great to hear! Hope you love your Niner!!!
I've been waiting for this exact video. Awesome job and thanks a million!
Thank you!
Excellent job explaining things! Great job guys :)
You have the best videos! Thank you for answering all of our questions.
such a great vid! Amazing job Prof!
Best video on bicycle suspension. Thank you.
Kyle & April, Joy of Ride are my 2 favorite channels now. Still love the guys at GMBN though.
Thank you!!! 😊
You guys do such a good job with your how to videos! Thank you 🤙🏻
Glad to see you both back on. You guys are a great team and these tutorials are explained so well. Kyle can explain the technical aspects so well and April has the perfect responses to help layman understand what is happening. If I had one critique, it would be for more videos. That's not to bad when people want to see you more lol
Thanks for the in-depth explanation of how suspension works.
Agree with TNW84! Add the 2 videos on suspension from BikeRadar and you get a complete picture from practical and theory side. Great video
We will have part 2 next and it should be really helpful!
Just purchased a high end Fox 36 with all the compression and rebound adjustability functions. Thought I knew enough to set it up; but, I was clearly wrong after seeing this video. Your descriptions were absolutely perfect and understandable...Far better than all the other videos I had viewed to this point. My heroes for sure! Thank you very much...Again!
So glad that it helped you!!! 😊
Great job on this. Love that your vids are so concise and accurate. Your care and love of the sport shines through each time!
Thanks so much Tony! Glad you enjoy the vids we love making them for you guys!!
Thank you Kyle & April for the great video! It is extremely well done, as others have commented. Can't wait for Part 2!
Thank you, we are excited to share part 2!
Good stuff! Liked the video of the bike going over the rocks with various setups at slow speed. You can definitely see and hear the difference.
Thanks Chad, glad you liked the different setup examples!
I came here intending to watch a couple of minutes, leave a like and then watch the remainder tomorrow. Ended up watching to the end cards because of Kyle's clear, solid gold info and then April's infectious enthusiasm and smile. Great stuff, you two
That’s so rad to hear! Thanks for watching it all the way through! I was nervous of the longer video haha!
Awesome Video! It was very helpful and I will be looking forward to part 2 :)
Thank you!
During the pandemic, I built up a new Orange stage 5 with the Durolux 36 29er. Since then i've switched all my forks over to the Durolux, so nice to easily adjust travel. I don't have to fiddle with a open-trail-lockout toggle, just set it up and forget it.
That’s so cool! Yeah they have been such an awesome company to work with over the years!
thanks!!! Can't wait for part two .... starting to understand the suspension better!!!
Glad it helped!
I like the way you explain the settings, it really helps me tuning my new bike.
Great explanation! This helped my understanding a lot. You two are awesome!
That’s so cool to hear! Thanks so much Scott!
Great video, as usual! Explains a lot of things I only half understood. Can’t wait for part two!
Glad it helped!
Great job Kyle. Excellent explanation of suspension and geometry of it all. Oddly enough completely revelant to vehicle suspension with the whole anti sqaut, etc. Awesome channel bubba, great information and your women is absolutely killing it. Your 150% positive vibe has always been mint.
Hey 👋 Really glad 🙂 to see y’all back on the trails... having fun and helping us understand a little better. Kyle you’re a great teacher.... but always helps when you have a great student.
Again, Glad y’all are back !!!!!!!
Bang on again guys. A much needed video by many! Great job as always and keep up the good work, guys! You're definitely affecting a lot of riders positively with your videos!
Great video, the clearest explanation I’ve found, looking forward to part two.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much for watching!!
another great and super informative vid! thank You!
Great video with all details explained. Some videos I watched to set up my rebound explained to tune it until it feels it works best. As a beginner I didn’t what how the best feels like. Now I understand what to look for. Thanks.
This was absolutely fantastic :) So helpful!
Glad you enjoyed it Sean!!
Very good job guys, complex things explained in a very consistent and clear way...way to go!
Thank you!
Excellent video and explanation, thanks!!
What a great idea to talk about suspension in such details !! Good job guys
Thanks so much Romain! Hopefully it helps people out a little bit!
you guys are the best, easy to understand and you know what your talking about. best mtb chanel
Thanks so much fritts! It’s been so much fun making these vids for you guys!
The best explanation I've found, hands down. Thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!!!
Very, very good video!!! Never seen a better one that explains so well the way suspension works. Thanks Kyle & April!
Thanks Rob, glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome explanation guys 👑👑🔥🔥
I learned a lot and it all was done so well 💪💪🙏🙏
Thanks Kyle & April. New bike is coming this week and this is very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
It is the first video I've ever seen that connects it all very well together. Including practical examples of how things work in real life. Given that, it's not long at all. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Really nice explained. Really good job. Thanks a lot.
Love it getting a new bike soon so this will really help thanks to both of you :)
Glad it is helpful! 😊
Great video. As usual , you guys made it much easier to understand whats going on. Thanks. Cant wait for the next one.
Thanks Mark, glad you liked it!
The only channel on TH-cam to learn the technical (scientific) stuff about MTB
Thank you 😊
Wow, thank you SO much for this video! Such useful information and it really helps a newbie like me to understand suspension! Love your channel! 👏🏻
No problem at all! As long as you guys keep watching them we will keep making them! :)
This video is so useful you don't understand how much you are helping me out right now!
That’s great to hear!!! 😊
your channel is one of the best for us mtb newbies!!! i look forward to the day when i have suspension i can adjust lol!
Glad you like our videos!!!
Thanks so much. The best and most understandable explanation of suspension functionality and setup by far. You guys Rock👍✌🐺
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Absolutely AWESOME!!!!! Thank you!!!
Thanks Kyle and April! That was so well explained and demonstrated. I’ve always had trouble understanding SSRC but now I have a much much better understanding. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Glad this helped you understand more!!! 😊
Love the comparison shots, really showed the difference, I only have a fork. had it close but I feel more confident to fine tune now.
Glad you feel more confident to adjust it now!
Great job! Looking forward to the second part.
Thank you!
Its been so long😭 glad you posted again
Thanks for waiting Matt!
Great video, that really helped. Thanks!
Best suspension video I‘ve watched so far. So comprehensive, yet easy to follow. Thanks for the great work guys!
Thank you, glad you liked it!
As always, a super helpful video. This is my favorite biking channel, And a lot of it is the positive attitudes
Thank you so much!!! 😊
Well done. That's alot of info and well explained. I already knew all of this, but nice to see a video that has alot of info all in sections. 👌 BTW I watched this in 2x speed, still sounds good. 🚀😁
Great video and easy to understand. I’m a fan. Thanks!
That’s awesome to hear! Thanks so much!
Omg ! This is what I have been looking for ! Thanks u so much
Awesome! 😊
You guys deserve a million subs.. Good job! Keep it up🤙🏽
Thank you so much!!! 😊😊😊
Yes finally a suspension video make easy ❤️
Thanks so much Art! Hope you enjoy it!!
Great explanation. This will help me get set up better than I have it. Thanks.
Excellent video , now I just have to go back and rewatch a couple of more times so my brain can absorb what you're saying. I know it's not rocket science but there's alot there , which is a good thing. Thanks 👍
Nice info. Now i cant wait for the Van update🔥
Thank you so much! Van video coming soon!
Just got a Yari fork. I NEEDED this. Thank you guys
No worries Justin! I hope it really helps!
Great video. Don't apologize for length, more info the better! :)
Thanks Scott!
Well explained - easy for this old guy to understand! Looking forward to Part 2!
Thanks Mark! yeah we just got part 2 all wrapped up and it will get posted next week when we get back from our coaching retreat!
Hi Kyle, April, this is one of the best explanation that I have seen so far......... good examples shown as well. Keep up your great work!
Great to hear, thank you!!!
Best video on suspension set up I've ever seen! Super well explained. The visual props and demos really helped too. Thank you!
Thank you so much Jeff!
Another great explanation. Well done you guys. Great to see another video from you guys. Always look forward to them. I am using some of your guys' videos in a beginners clinic this weekend. Aloha.
Thank you! Awesome to hear you are using our videos to help others, hope you have a great weekend!
Some companies now provide more adjustments for the user. LSC, HSC, LSR, HSR and I have an old shock from 5th element with "progressivity" adjustment lol. Love your tutorials!
Great content, always helpful
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good stuff! Great channel and I always learn something. One addendum to the “soft and slow” setting. For those new to this, note the total lack of available travel in the fork as she’s riding by. That thing was done providing any useful suspension well before the corner.
Extremely helpful video tutorial. Entertaining too. You guys are the best. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and experiences! Much appreciated. Thank you Sir & Ma’am. Namaste.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much for watching!!
Today I wanted to set up my suspension for the first time. I just watched some videos but wasn't really getting it. This one is the last one I had to watch - thank you so much! I will go and play a bit and experiment with my suspension. Hopefully the next video is on its way, because I'm pretty sure I'll need it to fix my set up after trying it on my own :)
Couldn't ride today because of the rain so the next best thing... Watch your video!
Awesome as always guys!
Thank you Peter!!!
I just started watching and it's so cool having just watched the older videos of April learning tricks/techniques- and now they're in the intro!
I'm getting so motivated to get on a bike.
Thanks Kylee, glad that our videos are motivating you!
They have great energy, as does does Blake, but i also love to watch Joy of Bike. Those guys are great and have a different approach. Get someone serious, add Kyle and April and add Joy of Bike, maybe gmbn and it's a pretty complete mix. There are a couple of other people who do thorough jobs too. I still have trouble with drops, i get it, then a week goes by, i get confused, lack confidence, watch some videos, go out and screw up again lol. It looks like everyone is hitting the drop the same, if you mute their sound, but the way they describe what they are doing is different, and that makes it confusing. I wish i had the drops that some of these guys have to practice on, they took the nearest ones down. I got some coaching but wiped out off a boulder in squamish and that set me back months.
its a good thing you had to make 2 parts ; its a lot to take in! i already been learning about suspension, this vid came at the right time to help clarify it some more. really looking forward to part 2!
Yes we are glad we split it into two parts as well, so much info 😅
You guys are the best bike colleague ever!!! And so much fun ... thank you for sharing, keep doing what you love, i can see how you guys enjoy making these videos... 🚲 can’t wait to get my Santa Cruz to apply these knowledge...
Thank you!!! Glad you gained some knowledge from this 😊
Super good explanations of how suspension works! It is hard to diagnose issues because there are so many factors at work but your examples and demo really help. :)
Glad you found it helpful!
You guys have the very best instructional vids. Kyle is an awesome teach and amazing rider! Thank you for that. Would love a vid on tail whips sometime!!
Thank you! A whip video is definitely on our list!!!
What Kyle says here about rebound and bucking is really important. I might just add that if your shock only has low speed rebound adjustment and you still feel like you're getting bucked, you could take a couple psi out of the shock and maybe run just a little more sag to help fix that. Rebound damping rate is directly related to spring pressure. A lower spring rate (i.e. lower air pressure in the can) with the same rebound setting will result in a more damped spring. Hope this helps someone out there to not have to learn the hard way like I did.
Finding a “teacher” that you get how they teach is critical to really learning something efficiently. For me, how Kyle teaches is ideal. I think that’s a innate ability, part of someone’s personality…who they are and not necessarily taught. I think more people need to be exposed to these types of teachers and instructors. It’s really cool to be able to find this type of content on TH-cam.
I hope the Myocarditis fades away and does it quickly. Love these videos. Can’t wait to see what’s next. I spied Kyle & April on video at Berm Peak opening day. I got my fingers crossed for a video drop soon.
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