Exactly. And that is why we f$&king hate them. Any Leeds player joining them is kicking Chris and Kevin’s family in the teeth. Sorry to say that about Alioski, but that’s the truth.
@@LeoDragon34 he’s being my favourite player since he came too maybe not the best but what a lad eh I’d be gutted if he went there I would lose all respect for him I think but anyone old enough to remember that night will understand
If you were a Leeds fan at the time of this then you’d understand why people aren’t happy! It brings up some dark times, memories and feelings in Leeds recent history. R.I.P Chris and Kev 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
At the time there was a Leeds away kit that was blue and yellow stripes, the same exact colors as galatasary's rivals fenerbahce. Gala and fener fans frequently stab each other, it's a violent rivalry. The guy who got murdered was wearing that shirt, it's tragic but I think he just didn't know about the intense hatred between the teams and lost his life because of it. It can also happen in Rome, Buenos Aires, even Glasgow, if you wear the wrong color in the wrong neighborhood.
@@ajay-ul2bf His brother probably wouldn't get drunk and provoke the people of a muslim country by pissing on the courtyard of a mosque unlike the Leeds fans did smh
There's not a "level of hate between the two" they killed two of ours and we don't care if they hate or like us. We hate them. The way Galatasaray handled what their fans did was disgusting.
@@olivermilnes431 while I'm sure there is an element that do (and I don't condone that), it's not quite the same as a club essentially advocating for the death of fans of another. So not really "pick and choose" is it.
Yeah you're both wrong on this. Coating an anti-Leeds bias in a comparison that isn't remotely the same. Also "you all sing it" good luck proving that.
Totally respect the Leeds fans over this. If you are associated with Leeds you don’t go to Galatasaray. I think the lad should respect this the Harry Kewel one was worse in my opinion. Big respect to Danny mills on how he talked on the subject as well.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Well said. For me being a leeds fan all my life I find it doesn't sit well with me and no doubt every other fellow supporter. Good riddance if his mind is set on joining 'them' #ALAW
The fact that Galatasaray haven’t apologised or even acknowledged the incident must sting with most fans. It is massively disrespectful of Alioski towards the friends and family of the victims. He shouldn’t entertain going there if he had any class he’d come out and say he won’t sign for them out of respect for Leeds.
@@darrenrowlands6470 Agreed mate, Im sure there will be other clubs maybe with no so lucrative offers wanting Aloiski ! Maybe its his agent entertaining this fact but who knows.
As a Leeds fan I can’t understand why there’s some Leeds fans that are okay with this. It’s fucking galatasaray, anyone to do with Leeds doesn’t deal with them under any circumstances. RIP Chris & Kev, we’ll never forget
I mean, right there is why. You as a fan have every right to be bitter and carry animosity in terms of ever visiting that place again and vice versa. But why should football on the pitch and players involved "never forget". 20 years on players should not be shunning a club because of a violent event in the past happened which is nothing to do with the actual game of football. This kind of mentality is what still drives idiotic hooliganism in the first place. It's time to separate the grievance from off the pitch and on it.
Personally I’m not completely happy about it and it does lower Alioski’s standing in my eyes a little but it’s not like he has a future at Leeds anyway so I’m not getting worked up about it either. Be a whole different story if it was a player like Raphinha or Bamford. Although doubt they would ever be interested in going to Galatasaray anyway.
I was in Copenhagen for the final as an Arsenal fan who played Galatasaray it was crazy there were Leeds fans West Ham Chelsea and Arsenal fans looking to avenge the murders
@@eriksonmendes3785 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 honestly bro these England fans make out like they’re going to do all sorts, all they know how to do is be alcoholics and get their heads smashed in with stools hahahahahahaha
I remember this well as an arsenal fan 13 years old at the time thought we might have an all English final. I would feel the same if it was on the other foot I was absolutely gutted that night galatasary beat us becaue of the result and what happened. Glad Leeds are back in the big time what a team at the time should have won something as recognition for the team they had for 3 or 4 years but wasn't to be.
4:13 “they didn’t speak great English” I fucking hate this attitude. English people must be the only people in the world to go abroad, to another country and be shocked that someone doesn’t speak THEIR language fluently.
It's a difficult one. Hate shouldn't be carried forever. It's a different time now. Different owner, different team, a new generation of fans. I don't know if they're better people than those of 21 years ago, but I'd like to think they are. Let Alioski be, he served us well on our journey back to the PL.
I know what you mean, but Galatasaray? They are a loathesome club and never apologised for what happened to Chris and Kevin. Alioski is doing what’s right for his family but are we simply to forget what happened to Chris and Kevin’s and the families they left behind?
I agree. I don't agree with his decision but he has a career to think about. He was 7-8 at the time. It would be different if he was a well known big player who can choose who he want to play for. But maybe somebody at the club should just sit him down and explain the situation and explain if he goes he will have to deal with the fact he won't be allowed to return for reunions..etc and his role in promotion will be forgotten. Maybe he won't care but he needs to understand the ramifications of joining them.
Galatasaray has 30 million fans, don't hate a big community because of a few fucking hooligans. As dear Dan Ginn said tht 21 years have passed. Different team, different generation of fans bla bla...As I galatasaray fan I remember Galatasaray-Leeds united match as a yesterday. Unfortunately, a lot of Leeds fans made a scene under the influence of too much alcohol. They smashed the windows of bars, attacked people in the street, Turkish flag burned. im sorry tht Turkey is Not England. Galatasaray is not Derby county FC or Millwall FC, Chelsea. I wish this didn't happen.. hooliganism is so bad !
As a Galatasaray fan, I would like to say that what happened in Taksim in 2000 and what happened to Chris and Kevin, whatever the reason, is very sad. Although there was a lot of mutual provocation at those moments, this is unacceptable. The 20-year-old who was responsible for the incident was sentenced to 15 years, but this situation does not alleviate anyone's pain. Such an event had never occurred before, and nothing similar has happened since 2000. It doesn't change the past, but after the events in Istanbul, Galatasaray came out with a black training uniform to warm up at Allen Road. This is in the match videos of that day. With all due respect; An individual event should not be attributed to the Galatasaray team, the entire society or the entire community.
I’m kind of split in what to think however I do think it would be best for alioski to choose another club he’s a free transfer there’s no way Galatasary are the only club interested
Yes but for him it makes sense, it's very close to home and his a Muslim so the country suits his lifestyle. Hopefully he doesn't but don't think he really cares tbh.
The situation between Kewell and Alioski are very, very different. Alioski is coming towards what will probably be his last big contract and he has his own and his families future to consider. He joined us when we were a midtable Championship side on Championship wages and ever since he has joined us he has given his all. In all probability he wasn't going to be given either regular football or that big a contract. I would prefer it if he was joining somebody else but I can fully understand his situation. Harry 'Judas' Kewell is a different case altogether. We found him as a youngster in Australia and gave him the chance to shine, there is no guarantee any other Premier League side would have given him that opportunity. He was there on the night and knows exactly what went on and the feeling that was generated and the hurt that was caused to the families, the club and the city. When O'Leary left he constantly nagged at Venables to play him upfront and in doing so disrupted the way the side had been playing. When the club got into financial difficulties he and his agent delayed his contract negotiations and he finished up getting a move to Liverpool where he and his agent pocketed most of what would have been his transfer fee. With that money and his huge new contract he was set up for life, he didn't need the money. But he gladly went to Turkey and even publicly stated that he was happy to be there. His actions were unforgivable and I can honestly say that every time he fails in management I'm glad. Harry Kewell is not welcome in Leeds and never will be again because he has shown just what a low life he is by his own actions and words. So as much as I would like Alioski to find a different club I can understand why he is doing what he is and because of all the loyal and honest service he has given us I just hope that he shines in Turkey so that some other club will come in and sign him.
@@paulturner9542 really!!! not from what Kewell said when he had established himself in the first team. He said that Leeds were the only ones who had approached him or his family.
Agree with every word spoken here. I still feel uneasy about the idea of going to turkey since this happened when I was 12 and I ageee with both sides to a degree. I can certainly understand both sides. I understand the hatred felt for Alioski but I don’t agree with it myself. He isn’t connected to that time of leeds and that’s where Kewell differs. He was my favourite player at the time and his move was nothing short of despicable, disrespecting Chris and kevs memories, as he was involved at the time within the leeds camp. Alioski however, has no link what so ever with this and, although may be aware of what happened, roughly- won’t be too clued up and he has to think of his own family and career. It’ll be his last big deal at his age. We can’t say as a club, we thank you for everything you’ve done for us, helping us achieve promotion and giving your absolute all, game after game and taking this great club back to the promised land, but now, we don’t wish to renew your deal, we would like to recruit better so sign somewhere else..... then expect he should then follow what EVERY SINGLE LEEDS FAN would do and not join that club? What if there were no other offers? What if that is the only contract that may see him through his very long retirement? He should be thanked for all he’s done for us, and also should be made aware that he won’t get any leeds following after this move either, but let it be known that he’ll always be a member of our promotion winning side and celebrated as such, unlike the Judas kewell who will never be welcome anywhere near leeds, the club or the city ever again. I hope Alioski gets a great deal of money out of that club, I really hope he takes them for all they’ve got and then Enjoys a great retirement remembered for what he did at leeds, not them, and I’ll always remember him as our crazy toddler dressing room clown that was one of bielsas pieces to his promotion winning jigsaw! MOT and rip Chris & Kev.
The 2 fans who tragically died weren’t murdered in cold blood, but a brawl broke out between the fans, and therefore got into a fight sadly resulting in their deaths. Blame hooliganism and alcoholism. The Leeds fans may be the best in the country in one context, but in another they’re known to be the worst; weren’t they voted the angriest by a poll just recently? I’m Leeds born n bred, been supporting the club for 2 decades, but as a guy from a Pakistani heritage I had to always go to the games wearing my Leeds jersey , because otherwise I got racially abused by own people.
two decades and how many stabbings at leeds? been going 30 years and never seen or heard of leeds fans stabbing anybody. drunken football fans are very different to what was going on that night, gangs armed to the teeth, machetes, knives hammers. my dad was there that night.
I was there, it was crazy Leeds, West Ham, Chelsea & millwall fans I know were there looking for vengeance guy in front of me in the stand had a bandage around his head and had discharged himself from the hospital
watched millwall against leeds in the playoffs a few years back and a millwall fan had a galatasaray shirt on.. didnt go down too well lol but respect to all the lads from different clubs joining up
@@AlexG-wk3nh yeah, but back then it was different, Turkish fans hate English and in the final a few arsenal fans also got stabbed, so because of the rivalry with England and turkey English firms always unite but man United fans are never there to be seen, even tho in the early 90s man United team bus and players were attacked by galatasary fans. Horrible country.
Interesting insight as a player from Danny though didn’t really touch on Galatasaray’s disgusting handling of the situation during the game and after, basically not even acknowledging what happened never mind taking any sort of responsibility for it. What Kewell did going to them was unforgivable given he was involved in that side at the time, as well as being brought up from the Leeds academy Can’t help but feel the circumstances for Alioski are different, he probably would have had no idea of this situation, at the end of the day he’s a footballer nearing 30 looking to seal what is best for himself, ideally a long term contract which we’re not going to be offering. Personally I find it tough to be angry with him if he did join.
Ill always love the man, gave us absolutely everything and I'll always respect and love him. But I don't support him in his move, I understand it could be his only offer and we all have to respect that he's making a living and essentially could be his only job offer. I'm saddened that I won't and cant continue to watch alioski in the future but wish him the best of luck.
I am a fervent leeds fan ,since Don Revie golden years. I remembered this incidents.We were all sad for the death of 2 leeds supporters.but Galatasaray and majority of their supporters can't take the blame.I don't believe they were all happy what was happening.It was a shame for them,for not expected the unexpected. In every football clubs around the world,there are a minority of gangters among their supporters.including leeds. I know many Turkish people are great fans of English football teams like Liverpool, Man utd, .Surely there must be leeds fan also,particularly,those above 50 yrs old.
The British and Germans were at war with each other in the past but now we're friends and travel to each other's countries. Leeds fans need to MOVE ON! Respect to Kewell and possibly Alioski. 👏👏
Alioski has been solid for Leeds since he started. He has Nothing to do with this. I wonder how many LUFC fans who are moaning about this have been to Turkey on holiday since this awful crime. I know I Never have and never will!
Oliver Milner as a Leeds fan I would never sing the Munich song, the death of the Busby babes was horrific and the premature loss of all those young lives and talent incredibly sad. In relation to the murders of the two fans which was horrendous and I think the game should have been cancelled and played at a numeral venue or behind closed stadium. That's my thoughts on both issues and both Leeds and Man United have there elements within their fan bases.
If Alioski is on a free transfer unfortunately for Leeds there’s nothing they can do. He probably has no or very limited idea about what happened. If he was playing for Leeds at that time like Kewell or reasonably soon after you could understand the bad feeling more. The timing of the incident now is 21 years on most professional footballers careers don’t last 21 years. It doesn’t mean Leeds should forget what happened but some things do move on.
hes around the club, he knows what it means, no way that time or the fact he was young when it happened mattered, if gala want him there will be other clubs too.
Danny Mills is spot on here, I remember it like it was yesterday. I was due to fly out the morning of the game but flight was cancelled. The hatred for Galatasary will never go away, they refused to wear black armbands for the game and tried every way possible to blame leeds fans for what happened. Leeds United fans do have a reputation but no one, no matter what team they follow should go to to game and never return. As for Alioski he has been great for leeds but it's clear no one has educated him on the history of the two clubs and what happened on the night of 5th April 2000. As for Kewell he is a Judas and is never welcome back, the fact that he actually played makes it even worse. RIP Chris & Kevin gone but never forgotten 💛💙
A very well explained account by Danny, sad times indeed but no use in holding a grudge against players making their money while they can. I do hope he isn't booed in the only game some fortunate fans may see for over a year, fingers crossed it is a joyous occasion! Let's face it, if Turkey was wiped off the map, I wouldn't miss it, horrible place! MOT 💙💛
Why is Galatasaray held responsible for the crimes of individuals. The courts have dealt with the case and punished the murderers. Keep hate out of football.
Danny mills knows exactly why as leeds fans we have great difficulty talking in a positive way anything to do with galatasaray. I also have the view that as a club we should not deal with the istanbul club full stop.
Not really any danger of booing since were not in the crowd anyway. If he goes at the end of the season for me he gets erased from the history for the most part, never gets invited back for any kind of celebration or reunion, he’s welcome to go there if he wants but it demotes him from being a bit of a cult hero to a footnote in Leeds history
Hate only damages you. What happened is truly horrific and wrong. Time to move on and good luck to Alioski, he's helped us get to the Prem and has done ok this season.
Forgiveness for the sake of forgiveness is not really forgiveness. It’s just apathy. Galatasaray and their fans have never done anything to merit forgiveness and have done nothing but undermine the murders and even glorify them since.
He's a player who's played alot of games for us this year in the Prem. Highly doubt they are his only option and should choose a different club if he wants to stay involved in Leeds once he retires . If he goes to themI would guess 90% of Leeds fans will probably would show him their backs and would not be welcome back here .
Kewell was a part of what happened. Alioski was not. There is certainly little equivalence between the two of them. But to say that Alioski gets off without any repercussions from Leeds fans is to ignore what happened to Chris and Kevin and their families. Alioski has been with the club for four years. That’s plenty of time to learn about the club’s history. He’s chosen to go to Galatasaray regardless. That has to taint his reputation with Leeds fans. Anything less is a kick in the teeth for Chris and Kevin’s fanilies.
@@martinbanner4333 that’s brilliant but I can’t stand people who pointlessly feel the need to mention who they support. It’s patronising and irritating. You can show respect without mentioning who your f*cking football club are
I was at the home leg and saw the turkish fans who had sneaked in and was waving the turkish flag and singing during the minutes silence, I'd rather he'd have joined man u than join them R.I.P Chris and kev
With Leeds’ other rivalries with Man United, Sheffield Wednesday, Huddersfield etc there is a level of banter in the rivalry and no real hatred. But with Galatasaray it is pure hatred, and nothing but hatred because of the fans as well as Galatasaray as a clubs nonchalant attitude towards the violence that happened, there is no respect at all between the two sets of fans.
Alioski will be up there with the likes of Harry Kewell...... Alioski will never be welcome back if he is heading there. Good riddance if his mind is set. Simple ! We lost 2 fellow fans to murder, and it still hurts us and always will we shall never forget them and they march on together with us. 🤍💙💛 R.I.P Chris Loftus & Kevin Speight. #ALAW
I wouldn’t hold it against him because he had no involvement. I’ll still hold him in the same light as I would any other Galatasaray player, willing him to fail because he’s one of them and he might not quite be the same player to me after. But in terms of the move itself, I don’t begrudge him it, although I completely understand anyone who isn’t comfortable with it
I can understand why some people don’t like this. If you look at it in a different way, just suppose a top striker plays for them and wants to come to Leeds would we say no because it’s Galatasaray or would we say come to us because we want good players. It’s seems that some fans cant see situations from different perspectives which is a shame. If it was Messi or Ronaldo the reaction would be totally different. 😎
We was linked with a Turkish player last summer from the Spanish leagues and there was a lot of Leeds fans who flat out refused to support the club if we signed him.. see some things are bigger than football when you grow up you’ll understand that
What happened was unacceptable and how it was handled was disgusting but this is a new era of fans, players etc. There will forever be a sour taste between the clubs but you can’t blame a player like gjanni moving there, he just wants to get on with his career plus he was a child when it happened and he probably is not aware about it and the aura around it
its terrible what happened but its his job. he's a footballer with a team who wants him. Leeds don't want him or they would be offering him a new contract.
@@dxjjw you don’t have a clue at all, I don’t support Leeds but mate, I’ve been Elland Road, they do not forget. They have two rules, they hate Man Utd and they hate Gala even more. Don’t even try and tel me otherwise, trust me they literally hate Gala.
@@dxjjw I can assure you it is not as divided as you think. It is other clubs fans telling their opinion of what Leeds fans think, and then Leeds fans who are adamant that if he goes Gala he would be regarded as scum. Honestly though, I went Elland Road and them fans are legit mental 😂
@@dxjjw no he doesn't. I've lived on the estate opposite Elland Road nearly all my life and every fan I speak to would not welcome him back if he went there just like Harry kewell. If fans were in the stadium alioski would get booed just for considering going to that Turkish club. Of course he has every right to go where he wants, but he would lose all respect and never be welcomed back
It’s obviously horrific and terrible what happened and I understand why some Leeds fans would be upset about him joining them, but at the end of the day it’s a business and for someone who probably had very little to no knowledge of those events it is in the end a move that would most likely give him better financial security. I’m not a Leeds fan and I don’t know much about Alioski but I know they have great supporters, but if you boo someone who has given years of service to your club I think that is a selfish way of thinking, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion
Im sure i remember reading somewhere that Chris Loftus and Kevin Speight burnt a Turkish flag. You dont go to Turkey and burn their flag, man, it is the most sacred of national symbols. You do not. If you dont want to get into trouble, wherever you go, you do your research. As a Bulgarian Leeds fan i can totally see both sides of the story but when you get yourself into such an awful position as the 2 Leeds fans did, you've clearly not shown enough respect, when that happens, your head better be clear and i for a fact know English travelling fans do not have that in them. This is not an excuse for the disgusting crime the Galatasaray fans committed. This however should be used to second guess your spontaneous ideas, no matter how harmless they look or sound to you. People and their actions are often not a joke and it is for the same reason that Chris and Kev will be missed dearly by their families and group of fans. RIP Chris Loftus and Kevin Speight.
Noone should lose their life over a football match.. terrible tradgedy .most decent people are with you as football fans, Leeds.. from a Leicester city fan.
Harry kewell went and ruined his career when leaving to go that horrible Turkish club the club should have been shut down when the disgusting fans murdered 2 lads just going out to watch a football match they will never be forgiven 😢ALAW 👏👏
But who would be booed more. Danny Mills or Alioski ? One joined a team he shouldn't and the other thought it was funny to squeeze every penny out of Leeds and he still thinks it's funny. Mills is wrong un
I am 57 and a Leeds fan of 47 of them nothing about this is right Galatasaray were and will always be a disgrace to football Leeds United should never have sold Kewell to them and should never ever do any business with them again it makes my blood boil MOT
@@tomw6947 Why does the whole of Italy hate Liverpool? Try Heysel. I know the Liverpool mantra is 'Never Ever forget Hillsborough but never ever mention Heysel' 39 dead, 625 injured. You think they forgive?
@@dillcarver7731 well Liverpool fans also died at heysel, also Italian fans are hardly innocent as the ultras and Liverpool fans had been fighting before hand. Poor security and a stadium that wasn't safe are also to blame.
If you thinking that Leeds United wouldn’t show loyalty to him when he wasn’t good enough then i ask you to find out how loyal Leeds United was to Berardi this season. Alioski knows the club, he knows better. He shouldn’t play for Leeds again
Even Man U would be better than Gala, The Feeling for Leeds Supporters in this Case though is more than Football, it's a Blood Feud, Which a Macedonian should Totally understand. Part of Our family were Murdered and what made it Worse was the "Authorities" Contempt and Minimal Sentences. Allioski could go to ANY other Club than Gala, He would get a Proper Send Off and always be a Hero in the Leeds Family.
I am very sorry for your loss and those who do this cannot be human. It is absolutely inexcusable. What does this incident have to do with Galatasaray? Your supporters will come to a foreign country, they will be super irresponsible, be super drunk, then they will harass our girls in Taksim, attack the police by hitting the head with a bottle. Later, a 20-year-old boy whose girlfriend was abused will kill Leed's supporter who harassed his girlfriend with a knife that came to his hand during a fight and sentenced to 15 years in prison. No matter where you look, one person lost his life and the other his youth. The events that happened here do not bind clubs. We do not say love us, we do not need your love, but do not deceive yourself by creating an imaginary enemy. Everyone will know their limits and show their respect. Thats it
It was a disgrace what happened to those Leeds fans and the conductbof the Galatasery fans towards the ream bus approaching the ground. But no lessons have been learned by some supporters Man City bus was attacked entering Anfield and no action taken. Tolerate this behaviour and you sow the seeds of tragedy for future support.
Harry Kewell served well for both Leeds and Galatasaray and it made me sad to hear that he isnt welcome in Leeds. Harry is a remarkable man. As a Galatasaray fan i remember those days and it was really tough because both team had very very passionate fans. But Galatasaray has over 30 million fans only in Turkey and i know all those people felt sad in their heart for the ones lost their lifes but also there wasnt social media to know about how people felt and if they wanted share a moment for apology. You know how news can be manipulating when there is only tv. I hope Leeds can qualify to UCL and we can play again and bring the peace between two passionate clubs. Also pls let Alioski to move on :)
Leeds fans don't blame every galatasaray fan, the point is your club never spoke out about the behaviour of your fans, plus's none of your players wore black arm bands and your club did everything possible to rub it in. It will never be forgotten and In the final a few arsenal fans were also stabbed by your fans. Just a discusting club and you have also done this to other clubs.
@@tomw6947 The players laid flowers out on the pitch and went out to warm up in full black kits to honour the victims. The stabbings were awful and a massive majority of Gala fans like me believe they are disgusting. But Leeds fans don't care, this is about their hate for Turks more then anything
Fans will never get it that players are not fans. Alioski gives not one jot about LUFC. He'll play anywhere for money. He's from that part of the world so he's bound to be interested if Gala come in for him. I get it that Leeds fans are repulsed by this. And I get it that Leeds will never get past this awful tragedy regarding Gala. But the boy is ignorant of the situation and it's ridiculous to expect him to put LUFC fans' feelings before his family's security. Turkish clubs should have been banned for 10 years after this event. If Italian clubs had been sanctioned for their behaviour, Heysel would never have happened. British fans have been a disgrace abroad at times without doubt. But foreign fans coming here to watch their teams are not subject to the violence that's treated as routine in parts of Europe.
harry kewell should have known better. i have a picture of those shields above kewells head as he walked out at that staduim of hell. and then he fucking signed for them.
I think Alioski should be cut some slack. I think he would prefer to stay at the club but he isn't being offered what he wants? Whatever that is....he is a first team regular and has been a good servant to the club. I wish him well, although I'd advise anyone not to go to Turkey. Kewell, definitely no slack for you lad. Not content with shafting the club that made him by going to Liverpool and pocketing the transfer fee but joining those scumbags in Turkey.....
You can’t blame all fans for the actions of a violent mob. It wasn’t that long ago that the English clubs where the ones with the problem. Should kante not have joined Chelsea after Chelsea fans racially abused a black guy in Paris?
Galatasary refused to even acknowledge it the night after it happened refused to wear black armbands refused a minutes silence.
wow, that is fucked.
Exactly. And that is why we f$&king hate them. Any Leeds player joining them is kicking Chris and Kevin’s family in the teeth. Sorry to say that about Alioski, but that’s the truth.
@@LeoDragon34 exactly that right there Leo..👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
That’s terrible!
@@LeoDragon34 he’s being my favourite player since he came too maybe not the best but what a lad eh I’d be gutted if he went there I would lose all respect for him I think but anyone old enough to remember that night will understand
If you were a Leeds fan at the time of this then you’d understand why people aren’t happy! It brings up some dark times, memories and feelings in Leeds recent history. R.I.P Chris and Kev 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@Wolfpak 4 life don’t deserve to lose their life over a game of football tho 🤦🏼
@Rat Ratman some did and werent far from where I was stood in the south stand at the home leg
At the time there was a Leeds away kit that was blue and yellow stripes, the same exact colors as galatasary's rivals fenerbahce. Gala and fener fans frequently stab each other, it's a violent rivalry. The guy who got murdered was wearing that shirt, it's tragic but I think he just didn't know about the intense hatred between the teams and lost his life because of it. It can also happen in Rome, Buenos Aires, even Glasgow, if you wear the wrong color in the wrong neighborhood.
I'm a Man Utd fan and i remember this absolute disgrace to football 2 lads going on a team trip to support there team to europe RIP those Leeds lads 👍
Racists got what they deserved!!!
No the Leeds fan was causing trouble so they brought the deaths upon themselves
@@bigpoppaHH69nice one lol doubt youd say the same if it was your father or brother, This is why men need fathers in their life 🤣🤦
@@ajay-ul2bf His brother probably wouldn't get drunk and provoke the people of a muslim country by pissing on the courtyard of a mosque unlike the Leeds fans did smh
There's not a "level of hate between the two" they killed two of ours and we don't care if they hate or like us. We hate them. The way Galatasaray handled what their fans did was disgusting.
Don't you lot sing Munich songs? Can't pick and choose
@@olivermilnes431 while I'm sure there is an element that do (and I don't condone that), it's not quite the same as a club essentially advocating for the death of fans of another. So not really "pick and choose" is it.
@@rossomac21 why is it not? Are fans special for some reason where their life matters more than players? Tell me pls what’s the difference?
Yeah you're both wrong on this. Coating an anti-Leeds bias in a comparison that isn't remotely the same. Also "you all sing it" good luck proving that.
Imagine singing a song about a plane crash in which a baby died in and thinking you have the moral high ground, how very leeds of you...
I’d like to think this wouldn’t bother me but there’s something that just rubs me the wrong way about it.
Totally respect the Leeds fans over this. If you are associated with Leeds you don’t go to Galatasaray. I think the lad should respect this the Harry Kewel one was worse in my opinion. Big respect to Danny mills on how he talked on the subject as well.
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Well said. For me being a leeds fan all my life I find it doesn't sit well with me and no doubt every other fellow supporter.
Good riddance if his mind is set on joining 'them'
#ALAW
Although, respectively alioski has 0 to do with Galatasaray and the traumatic incident with them 🤬 Personally I don’t mind him going there.
The fact that Galatasaray haven’t apologised or even acknowledged the incident must sting with most fans. It is massively disrespectful of Alioski towards the friends and family of the victims. He shouldn’t entertain going there if he had any class he’d come out and say he won’t sign for them out of respect for Leeds.
@@darrenrowlands6470 Agreed mate, Im sure there will be other clubs maybe with no so lucrative offers wanting Aloiski ! Maybe its his agent entertaining this fact but who knows.
Why would alioski respect this he wasn’t born in Leeds he probably isn’t even a Leeds fans just because he plays at the club!
As a Leeds fan I can’t understand why there’s some Leeds fans that are okay with this. It’s fucking galatasaray, anyone to do with Leeds doesn’t deal with them under any circumstances. RIP Chris & Kev, we’ll never forget
I mean, right there is why. You as a fan have every right to be bitter and carry animosity in terms of ever visiting that place again and vice versa. But why should football on the pitch and players involved "never forget". 20 years on players should not be shunning a club because of a violent event in the past happened which is nothing to do with the actual game of football. This kind of mentality is what still drives idiotic hooliganism in the first place. It's time to separate the grievance from off the pitch and on it.
Exactly Joe mate any other club no issues but them no brainer a big fat no
Leeds would drop him tomorrow if he wasn’t good enough for them so why should he have loyalty to leeds
Personally I’m not completely happy about it and it does lower Alioski’s standing in my eyes a little but it’s not like he has a future at Leeds anyway so I’m not getting worked up about it either.
Be a whole different story if it was a player like Raphinha or Bamford. Although doubt they would ever be interested in going to Galatasaray anyway.
F*CKING well said..👍
The game shouldn’t of gone on!
RIP Chris & Kev🙏 🤍💙💛🤍
I was in Copenhagen for the final as an Arsenal fan who played Galatasaray it was crazy there were Leeds fans West Ham Chelsea and Arsenal fans looking to avenge the murders
😂🤣😂😂 you lying bro english fans only drink and sing remember the beat down you got from the russians
@@eriksonmendes3785 when gala play us again we will take 2 of theirs
@@alfiehighley6620 you don't have the heart boy
@@eriksonmendes3785 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 honestly bro these England fans make out like they’re going to do all sorts, all they know how to do is be alcoholics and get their heads smashed in with stools hahahahahahaha
@@AAger96 hahaha funny guy you over TH-cam ain't you
I remember this well as an arsenal fan 13 years old at the time thought we might have an all English final. I would feel the same if it was on the other foot I was absolutely gutted that night galatasary beat us becaue of the result and what happened. Glad Leeds are back in the big time what a team at the time should have won something as recognition for the team they had for 3 or 4 years but wasn't to be.
4:13 “they didn’t speak great English” I fucking hate this attitude. English people must be the only people in the world to go abroad, to another country and be shocked that someone doesn’t speak THEIR language fluently.
It's a difficult one. Hate shouldn't be carried forever. It's a different time now. Different owner, different team, a new generation of fans. I don't know if they're better people than those of 21 years ago, but I'd like to think they are. Let Alioski be, he served us well on our journey back to the PL.
I know what you mean, but Galatasaray? They are a loathesome club and never apologised for what happened to Chris and Kevin. Alioski is doing what’s right for his family but are we simply to forget what happened to Chris and Kevin’s and the families they left behind?
I agree. I don't agree with his decision but he has a career to think about. He was 7-8 at the time. It would be different if he was a well known big player who can choose who he want to play for. But maybe somebody at the club should just sit him down and explain the situation and explain if he goes he will have to deal with the fact he won't be allowed to return for reunions..etc and his role in promotion will be forgotten. Maybe he won't care but he needs to understand the ramifications of joining them.
Revolting comment
Galatasaray has 30 million fans, don't hate a big community because of a few fucking hooligans. As dear Dan Ginn said tht 21 years have passed. Different team, different generation of fans bla bla...As I galatasaray fan I remember Galatasaray-Leeds united match as a yesterday. Unfortunately, a lot of Leeds fans made a scene under the influence of too much alcohol. They smashed the windows of bars, attacked people in the street, Turkish flag burned. im sorry tht Turkey is Not England. Galatasaray is not Derby county FC or Millwall FC, Chelsea. I wish this didn't happen.. hooliganism is so bad !
As a Galatasaray fan, I would like to say that what happened in Taksim in 2000 and what happened to Chris and Kevin, whatever the reason, is very sad. Although there was a lot of mutual provocation at those moments, this is unacceptable. The 20-year-old who was responsible for the incident was sentenced to 15 years, but this situation does not alleviate anyone's pain. Such an event had never occurred before, and nothing similar has happened since 2000.
It doesn't change the past, but after the events in Istanbul, Galatasaray came out with a black training uniform to warm up at Allen Road. This is in the match videos of that day. With all due respect; An individual event should not be attributed to the Galatasaray team, the entire society or the entire community.
I’m kind of split in what to think however I do think it would be best for alioski to choose another club he’s a free transfer there’s no way Galatasary are the only club interested
Yes but for him it makes sense, it's very close to home and his a Muslim so the country suits his lifestyle. Hopefully he doesn't but don't think he really cares tbh.
@@tomw6947 that right and I think he would go
Why is he supposed to be loyal to Leeds when they aren't even offering him a new contract?
@@cockoffgewgle4993 it sad but it right
@baz frearson It's probably more about money and length of contract.
I've been a fan for 50 years, the hatred is still there but I suppose he has a living to make. It's difficult. But I would wish him all the best.
One of the best videos TalkSport have ever done
The situation between Kewell and Alioski are very, very different.
Alioski is coming towards what will probably be his last big contract and he has his own and his families future to consider. He joined us when we were a midtable Championship side on Championship wages and ever since he has joined us he has given his all. In all probability he wasn't going to be given either regular football or that big a contract. I would prefer it if he was joining somebody else but I can fully understand his situation.
Harry 'Judas' Kewell is a different case altogether. We found him as a youngster in Australia and gave him the chance to shine, there is no guarantee any other Premier League side would have given him that opportunity. He was there on the night and knows exactly what went on and the feeling that was generated and the hurt that was caused to the families, the club and the city. When O'Leary left he constantly nagged at Venables to play him upfront and in doing so disrupted the way the side had been playing. When the club got into financial difficulties he and his agent delayed his contract negotiations and he finished up getting a move to Liverpool where he and his agent pocketed most of what would have been his transfer fee. With that money and his huge new contract he was set up for life, he didn't need the money. But he gladly went to Turkey and even publicly stated that he was happy to be there. His actions were unforgivable and I can honestly say that every time he fails in management I'm glad. Harry Kewell is not welcome in Leeds and never will be again because he has shown just what a low life he is by his own actions and words.
So as much as I would like Alioski to find a different club I can understand why he is doing what he is and because of all the loyal and honest service he has given us I just hope that he shines in Turkey so that some other club will come in and sign him.
Just read your comment after posting mine. I concur 100%.
Take the rose tinted glasses off, you weren’t the only club after Harry at the time.
@@paulturner9542 really!!! not from what Kewell said when he had established himself in the first team. He said that Leeds were the only ones who had approached him or his family.
Agree with every word spoken here. I still feel uneasy about the idea of going to turkey since this happened when I was 12 and I ageee with both sides to a degree. I can certainly understand both sides. I understand the hatred felt for Alioski but I don’t agree with it myself. He isn’t connected to that time of leeds and that’s where Kewell differs. He was my favourite player at the time and his move was nothing short of despicable, disrespecting Chris and kevs memories, as he was involved at the time within the leeds camp. Alioski however, has no link what so ever with this and, although may be aware of what happened, roughly- won’t be too clued up and he has to think of his own family and career. It’ll be his last big deal at his age. We can’t say as a club, we thank you for everything you’ve done for us, helping us achieve promotion and giving your absolute all, game after game and taking this great club back to the promised land, but now, we don’t wish to renew your deal, we would like to recruit better so sign somewhere else..... then expect he should then follow what EVERY SINGLE LEEDS FAN would do and not join that club? What if there were no other offers? What if that is the only contract that may see him through his very long retirement? He should be thanked for all he’s done for us, and also should be made aware that he won’t get any leeds following after this move either, but let it be known that he’ll always be a member of our promotion winning side and celebrated as such, unlike the Judas kewell who will never be welcome anywhere near leeds, the club or the city ever again. I hope Alioski gets a great deal of money out of that club, I really hope he takes them for all they’ve got and then
Enjoys a great retirement remembered for what he did at leeds, not them, and I’ll always remember him as our crazy toddler dressing room clown that was one of bielsas pieces to his promotion winning jigsaw! MOT and rip Chris & Kev.
Not once did they show an ounce of remorse..not once..anybody associated with leeds united should never deal with that club..
Lifetime Leeds fan. Remember the night well. Horrible response from galatasaray, dealt with terribly. We will never forgive or forget!!
The 2 fans who tragically died weren’t murdered in cold blood, but a brawl broke out between the fans, and therefore got into a fight sadly resulting in their deaths.
Blame hooliganism and alcoholism.
The Leeds fans may be the best in the country in one context, but in another they’re known to be the worst; weren’t they voted the angriest by a poll just recently?
I’m Leeds born n bred, been supporting the club for 2 decades, but as a guy from a Pakistani heritage I had to always go to the games wearing my Leeds jersey , because otherwise I got racially abused by own people.
two decades and how many stabbings at leeds? been going 30 years and never seen or heard of leeds fans stabbing anybody. drunken football fans are very different to what was going on that night, gangs armed to the teeth, machetes, knives hammers. my dad was there that night.
Finally he comes to Al Ahli Saudi Arabia and he listened to Leads United fans. Alioski is a wonderful man. Respect and welcome💚.
Arsenal played them in the final the game after. Lots of violence and stabbings from both sides. I heard Leeds fans joined up with Arsenal.
I was there, it was crazy Leeds, West Ham, Chelsea & millwall fans I know were there looking for vengeance guy in front of me in the stand had a bandage around his head and had discharged himself from the hospital
Respect to Arsenal who we played in between the legs: the flowers left and the minutes before kick off @ Elland Road.
And that sounds like a mistake, continued anger and vengeance solves nothing
watched millwall against leeds in the playoffs a few years back and a millwall fan had a galatasaray shirt on.. didnt go down too well lol but respect to all the lads from different clubs joining up
@@AlexG-wk3nh yeah, but back then it was different, Turkish fans hate English and in the final a few arsenal fans also got stabbed, so because of the rivalry with England and turkey English firms always unite but man United fans are never there to be seen, even tho in the early 90s man United team bus and players were attacked by galatasary fans. Horrible country.
Interesting insight as a player from Danny though didn’t really touch on Galatasaray’s disgusting handling of the situation during the game and after, basically not even acknowledging what happened never mind taking any sort of responsibility for it.
What Kewell did going to them was unforgivable given he was involved in that side at the time, as well as being brought up from the Leeds academy
Can’t help but feel the circumstances for Alioski are different, he probably would have had no idea of this situation, at the end of the day he’s a footballer nearing 30 looking to seal what is best for himself, ideally a long term contract which we’re not going to be offering. Personally I find it tough to be angry with him if he did join.
Ill always love the man, gave us absolutely everything and I'll always respect and love him. But I don't support him in his move, I understand it could be his only offer and we all have to respect that he's making a living and essentially could be his only job offer. I'm saddened that I won't and cant continue to watch alioski in the future but wish him the best of luck.
Why is he leaving? Isn't he a good player?
Spot on mate 👌🏻
@@sukhdevr3489 he's a weak link at the moment unfortunately, great energy and gives his all though and that's why we love him
Good luck Alioski in whatever you decide to do. Thanks for the goals, effort and promotion to the premier league.
I am a fervent leeds fan ,since Don Revie golden years. I remembered this incidents.We were all sad for the death of 2 leeds supporters.but Galatasaray and majority of their supporters can't take the blame.I don't believe they were all happy what was happening.It was a shame for them,for not expected the unexpected.
In every football clubs around the world,there are a minority of gangters among their supporters.including leeds.
I know many Turkish people are great fans of English football teams like Liverpool, Man utd, .Surely there must be leeds fan also,particularly,those above 50 yrs old.
The British and Germans were at war with each other in the past but now we're friends and travel to each other's countries. Leeds fans need to MOVE ON! Respect to Kewell and possibly Alioski. 👏👏
I love Alioski but if he goes there I can't support him. That being said it's just a rumour so I hope fans don't give him abuse.
Why can’t it support him? Did the club kill those fans?
@@mrm5183 Not a Leeds fan are you
@@mrm5183 have some respect don't be stupid
@@iliketowatchvideos47
Hahaha why do people like you try make up what is and isn’t respect? How is my statement not respectful? Grow up
@@mrm5183 no but the club (gala) refused to wear black arm bands or a minutes silence, refused to even acknowledge what happened.
Alioski has been solid for Leeds since he started. He has Nothing to do with this. I wonder how many LUFC fans who are moaning about this have been to Turkey on holiday since this awful crime. I know I Never have and never will!
Oliver Milner as a Leeds fan I would never sing the Munich song, the death of the Busby babes was horrific and the premature loss of all those young lives and talent incredibly sad. In relation to the murders of the two fans which was horrendous and I think the game should have been cancelled and played at a numeral venue or behind closed stadium. That's my thoughts on both issues and both Leeds and Man United have there elements within their fan bases.
Who cares. It was ages ago and they're all dead. People make jokes about the war and millions died in much worse circumstances.
If Alioski is on a free transfer unfortunately for Leeds there’s nothing they can do. He probably has no or very limited idea about what happened. If he was playing for Leeds at that time like Kewell or reasonably soon after you could understand the bad feeling more. The timing of the incident now is 21 years on most professional footballers careers don’t last 21 years. It doesn’t mean Leeds should forget what happened but some things do move on.
Danny Mills and Talksport deserve each other.
This literally United every hardcore football fan , I remember we played turkey at the stadium of light and there was hell on .
hes around the club, he knows what it means, no way that time or the fact he was young when it happened mattered, if gala want him there will be other clubs too.
My condolences to those leeds fans that died that night.
They're dead. They won't read this.
Danny Mills is spot on here, I remember it like it was yesterday. I was due to fly out the morning of the game but flight was cancelled. The hatred for Galatasary will never go away, they refused to wear black armbands for the game and tried every way possible to blame leeds fans for what happened. Leeds United fans do have a reputation but no one, no matter what team they follow should go to to game and never return.
As for Alioski he has been great for leeds but it's clear no one has educated him on the history of the two clubs and what happened on the night of 5th April 2000. As for Kewell he is a Judas and is never welcome back, the fact that he actually played makes it even worse.
RIP Chris & Kevin gone but never forgotten 💛💙
A very well explained account by Danny, sad times indeed but no use in holding a grudge against players making their money while they can. I do hope he isn't booed in the only game some fortunate fans may see for over a year, fingers crossed it is a joyous occasion! Let's face it, if Turkey was wiped off the map, I wouldn't miss it, horrible place! MOT 💙💛
God help Galatasaray if they ever have to come to Elland Road.
Stop it bro
Yea imagine leeds fans in instabul.
We’ll take 2 of theirs don’t worry
Revenge
@@alfiehighley6620 you're probably about 14😂😂😂
Going to Galatasaray is an insult to kev and Chris and all Leeds fans..end of..
Come to Galata Alioski welcome :D
Why is Galatasaray held responsible for the crimes of individuals. The courts have dealt with the case and punished the murderers. Keep hate out of football.
Thanks mate
Danny mills knows exactly why as leeds fans we have great difficulty talking in a positive way anything to do with galatasaray. I also have the view that as a club we should not deal with the istanbul club full stop.
I wasnt alive then but if alioski went we wouldn't boo him we wouldn't like the decision but he personally as been a great servant to us
why would u like that lol
Not really any danger of booing since were not in the crowd anyway. If he goes at the end of the season for me he gets erased from the history for the most part, never gets invited back for any kind of celebration or reunion, he’s welcome to go there if he wants but it demotes him from being a bit of a cult hero to a footnote in Leeds history
He'd definitely get some boos if the crowd were in
@@harveyholmes9533 why tho it's not like the Galatasaray of today have anything to do with what happend then
Hate only damages you. What happened is truly horrific and wrong. Time to move on and good luck to Alioski, he's helped us get to the Prem and has done ok this season.
He's crap, time to go, should have picked anyone else to go to, but I don't harbour much I'll feeling, it just adds to his loony status
Na there are hundreds of clubs he could go to
Unless we learn to forgive, all we breed is perpetual hate
Forgiveness for the sake of forgiveness is not really forgiveness. It’s just apathy.
Galatasaray and their fans have never done anything to merit forgiveness and have done nothing but undermine the murders and even glorify them since.
These rivalries surely make the sport entertaining?
@@korygrey6170 people being murdered isn’t entertainment.
Galatasaray or their supporters have never apologised. So no forgiveness is given
This isn't exactly a one off with Galatasaray though is it? They shouldn't be allowed to play in Europe.
He's a player who's played alot of games for us this year in the Prem. Highly doubt they are his only option and should choose a different club if he wants to stay involved in Leeds once he retires . If he goes to themI would guess 90% of Leeds fans will probably would show him their backs and would not be welcome back here .
Kewell was a part of what happened. Alioski was not. There is certainly little equivalence between the two of them. But to say that Alioski gets off without any repercussions from Leeds fans is to ignore what happened to Chris and Kevin and their families. Alioski has been with the club for four years. That’s plenty of time to learn about the club’s history. He’s chosen to go to Galatasaray regardless. That has to taint his reputation with Leeds fans. Anything less is a kick in the teeth for Chris and Kevin’s fanilies.
From a Birmingham city fan..RIP lads 🙏
Why do people feel the need to mention who they support. Just say “RIP” FFS
@@matthancock260 it's called respect from one to another..
@@martinbanner4333 that’s brilliant but I can’t stand people who pointlessly feel the need to mention who they support. It’s patronising and irritating. You can show respect without mentioning who your f*cking football club are
@@matthancock260 that's your problem not mine
@@martinbanner4333 sotc
I was at the home leg and saw the turkish fans who had sneaked in and was waving the turkish flag and singing during the minutes silence, I'd rather he'd have joined man u than join them R.I.P Chris and kev
With Leeds’ other rivalries with Man United, Sheffield Wednesday, Huddersfield etc there is a level of banter in the rivalry and no real hatred. But with Galatasaray it is pure hatred, and nothing but hatred because of the fans as well as Galatasaray as a clubs nonchalant attitude towards the violence that happened, there is no respect at all between the two sets of fans.
R.I.P. Chris And Kev Sound So Horrible 💙❤️🙏🙏
Alioski will be up there with the likes of Harry Kewell......
Alioski will never be welcome back if he is heading there. Good riddance if his mind is set. Simple !
We lost 2 fellow fans to murder, and it still hurts us and always will
we shall never forget them and they march on together with us. 🤍💙💛
R.I.P Chris Loftus & Kevin Speight.
#ALAW
👏🏻👏🏻 from a Newcastle fan. Donkey’s on TalkSPORT should acknowledge this view point more.
Leeds fans were singing 'Munich' songs long before the Galatasaray match.
Get over it the club didn’t kill those fans those who murdered those fans are cowards and not football fans!
That’s right say it again
Very good pundit is Danny Mills
I agree
I wouldn’t hold it against him because he had no involvement. I’ll still hold him in the same light as I would any other Galatasaray player, willing him to fail because he’s one of them and he might not quite be the same player to me after. But in terms of the move itself, I don’t begrudge him it, although I completely understand anyone who isn’t comfortable with it
This is a straight violation. I don’t even support Leeds but that’s legit unacceptable, it’s not as if other clubs won’t want him
how doesn’t he have options we have offered him a new deal, imo not welcome back. RIP Chris and Kev
I can understand why some people don’t like this. If you look at it in a different way, just suppose a top striker plays for them and wants to come to Leeds would we say no because it’s Galatasaray or would we say come to us because we want good players. It’s seems that some fans cant see situations from different perspectives which is a shame. If it was Messi or Ronaldo the reaction would be totally different. 😎
We was linked with a Turkish player last summer from the Spanish leagues and there was a lot of Leeds fans who flat out refused to support the club if we signed him.. see some things are bigger than football when you grow up you’ll understand that
What happened was unacceptable and how it was handled was disgusting but this is a new era of fans, players etc. There will forever be a sour taste between the clubs but you can’t blame a player like gjanni moving there, he just wants to get on with his career plus he was a child when it happened and he probably is not aware about it and the aura around it
Unforgivable for alioski in my opinion
I understand and I'm behind the Leeds fans .......
I heard all about that night awful awful scenes that night
It’s there job play where ever you want
It doesn’t work like that
@@PlayerSP-uw9bs it actually does lol
its terrible what happened but its his job. he's a footballer with a team who wants him. Leeds don't want him or they would be offering him a new contract.
Just for anyone that care... Most Leeds fans are not bothered.. It's other people trying to make this a thing..
You have no clue
@@dxjjw you don’t have a clue at all, I don’t support Leeds but mate, I’ve been Elland Road, they do not forget. They have two rules, they hate Man Utd and they hate Gala even more. Don’t even try and tel me otherwise, trust me they literally hate Gala.
Most? Idiotic.
@@dxjjw I can assure you it is not as divided as you think. It is other clubs fans telling their opinion of what Leeds fans think, and then Leeds fans who are adamant that if he goes Gala he would be regarded as scum. Honestly though, I went Elland Road and them fans are legit mental 😂
@@dxjjw no he doesn't. I've lived on the estate opposite Elland Road nearly all my life and every fan I speak to would not welcome him back if he went there just like Harry kewell. If fans were in the stadium alioski would get booed just for considering going to that Turkish club. Of course he has every right to go where he wants, but he would lose all respect and never be welcomed back
No split here. If he goes there he's written off
It’s obviously horrific and terrible what happened and I understand why some Leeds fans would be upset about him joining them, but at the end of the day it’s a business and for someone who probably had very little to no knowledge of those events it is in the end a move that would most likely give him better financial security. I’m not a Leeds fan and I don’t know much about Alioski but I know they have great supporters, but if you boo someone who has given years of service to your club I think that is a selfish way of thinking, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion
Never forgive never forget
Im sure i remember reading somewhere that Chris Loftus and Kevin Speight burnt a Turkish flag. You dont go to Turkey and burn their flag, man, it is the most sacred of national symbols. You do not. If you dont want to get into trouble, wherever you go, you do your research. As a Bulgarian Leeds fan i can totally see both sides of the story but when you get yourself into such an awful position as the 2 Leeds fans did, you've clearly not shown enough respect, when that happens, your head better be clear and i for a fact know English travelling fans do not have that in them. This is not an excuse for the disgusting crime the Galatasaray fans committed. This however should be used to second guess your spontaneous ideas, no matter how harmless they look or sound to you. People and their actions are often not a joke and it is for the same reason that Chris and Kev will be missed dearly by their families and group of fans. RIP Chris Loftus and Kevin Speight.
Media reporting on this transfer a lot more than that "instanbul reds" banner united took to Elland road years ago.
Let’s not forget how that club dealt with the murders. No apology, no damming the fans, no black armbands worn by their players. Disgusting.
As an Arsenal fan, and a fan that hates Man U, I like Leeds abs this still is difficult to hear. There shouldn’t be things like this for football!
Noone should lose their life over a football match.. terrible tradgedy .most decent people are with you as football fans, Leeds.. from a Leicester city fan.
Harry kewell went and ruined his career when leaving to go that horrible Turkish club the club should have been shut down when the disgusting fans murdered 2 lads just going out to watch a football match they will never be forgiven 😢ALAW 👏👏
But who would be booed more. Danny Mills or Alioski ?
One joined a team he shouldn't and the other thought it was funny to squeeze every penny out of Leeds and he still thinks it's funny.
Mills is wrong un
It was absolutely disgusting what happened should’ve called the game off out of respect.sad day in football
I am 57 and a Leeds fan of 47 of them nothing about this is right Galatasaray were and will always be a disgrace to football Leeds United should never have sold Kewell to them and should never ever do any business with them again it makes my blood boil MOT
There shouldn't be too much issue, different team, different coach, ali has no connection with that team or fans of 2000.
It's the way Juventus fans and basically the whole of Italy hate Liverpool
Yes as it should be Liverpool fans are 💩
They killed their own as well. Murderers.
Why does the whole of Italy hate Liverpool? I know Roma hate Liverpool and Manchester United.
@@tomw6947 Why does the whole of Italy hate Liverpool? Try Heysel. I know the Liverpool mantra is 'Never Ever forget Hillsborough but never ever mention Heysel'
39 dead, 625 injured. You think they forgive?
@@dillcarver7731 well Liverpool fans also died at heysel, also Italian fans are hardly innocent as the ultras and Liverpool fans had been fighting before hand. Poor security and a stadium that wasn't safe are also to blame.
If you thinking that Leeds United wouldn’t show loyalty to him when he wasn’t good enough then i ask you to find out how loyal Leeds United was to Berardi this season. Alioski knows the club, he knows better. He shouldn’t play for Leeds again
Even Man U would be better than Gala, The Feeling for Leeds Supporters in this Case though is more than Football, it's a Blood Feud, Which a Macedonian should Totally understand. Part of Our family were Murdered and what made it Worse was the "Authorities" Contempt and Minimal Sentences. Allioski could go to ANY other Club than Gala, He would get a Proper Send Off and always be a Hero in the Leeds Family.
I am very sorry for your loss and those who do this cannot be human. It is absolutely inexcusable. What does this incident have to do with Galatasaray? Your supporters will come to a foreign country, they will be super irresponsible, be super drunk, then they will harass our girls in Taksim, attack the police by hitting the head with a bottle. Later, a 20-year-old boy whose girlfriend was abused will kill Leed's supporter who harassed his girlfriend with a knife that came to his hand during a fight and sentenced to 15 years in prison. No matter where you look, one person lost his life and the other his youth. The events that happened here do not bind clubs. We do not say love us, we do not need your love, but do not deceive yourself by creating an imaginary enemy. Everyone will know their limits and show their respect. Thats it
Galatasaray not only offended the proud Leeds fans, but they angered every true Football fan.
LUFC family will never forget
It was a disgrace what happened to those Leeds fans and the conductbof the Galatasery fans towards the ream bus approaching the ground. But no lessons have been learned by some supporters Man City bus was attacked entering Anfield and no action taken. Tolerate this behaviour and you sow the seeds of tragedy for future support.
Never forgive never forget 💙💛💙💛
The guys were punished with 10 & 6 years for a fatal stabbing. Is that a joke !
Harry Kewell served well for both Leeds and Galatasaray and it made me sad to hear that he isnt welcome in Leeds. Harry is a remarkable man. As a Galatasaray fan i remember those days and it was really tough because both team had very very passionate fans. But Galatasaray has over 30 million fans only in Turkey and i know all those people felt sad in their heart for the ones lost their lifes but also there wasnt social media to know about how people felt and if they wanted share a moment for apology. You know how news can be manipulating when there is only tv.
I hope Leeds can qualify to UCL and we can play again and bring the peace between two passionate clubs.
Also pls let Alioski to move on :)
Leeds fans don't blame every galatasaray fan, the point is your club never spoke out about the behaviour of your fans, plus's none of your players wore black arm bands and your club did everything possible to rub it in. It will never be forgotten and In the final a few arsenal fans were also stabbed by your fans. Just a discusting club and you have also done this to other clubs.
@@tomw6947 The players laid flowers out on the pitch and went out to warm up in full black kits to honour the victims. The stabbings were awful and a massive majority of Gala fans like me believe they are disgusting. But Leeds fans don't care, this is about their hate for Turks more then anything
Fans will never get it that players are not fans. Alioski gives not one jot about LUFC. He'll play anywhere for money. He's from that part of the world so he's bound to be interested if Gala come in for him. I get it that Leeds fans are repulsed by this. And I get it that Leeds will never get past this awful tragedy regarding Gala. But the boy is ignorant of the situation and it's ridiculous to expect him to put LUFC fans' feelings before his family's security. Turkish clubs should have been banned for 10 years after this event. If Italian clubs had been sanctioned for their behaviour, Heysel would never have happened. British fans have been a disgrace abroad at times without doubt. But foreign fans coming here to watch their teams are not subject to the violence that's treated as routine in parts of Europe.
harry kewell should have known better. i have a picture of those shields above kewells head as he walked out at that staduim of hell. and then he fucking signed for them.
Never forgive,never forget
big mac and fries please mills
Not hate for alioski if he goes there, he was nothing to do with it. A different time.
Who on earth would want to play in Turkey league
I think Alioski should be cut some slack. I think he would prefer to stay at the club but he isn't being offered what he wants? Whatever that is....he is a first team regular and has been a good servant to the club. I wish him well, although I'd advise anyone not to go to Turkey.
Kewell, definitely no slack for you lad. Not content with shafting the club that made him by going to Liverpool and pocketing the transfer fee but joining those scumbags in Turkey.....
Only cowards use knives FACTS
You can’t blame all fans for the actions of a violent mob. It wasn’t that long ago that the English clubs where the ones with the problem.
Should kante not have joined Chelsea after Chelsea fans racially abused a black guy in Paris?
The Leeds fans that support Alioskis decision are the same ones who were absent the last ten years.
Alioski is a professional he free go play for whoever he chooses.
@@AM.10 Alioski is a professional footballer, correct. He is allowed to transfer to any club, also correct.
It seems we both agree on your statement.
I've been saying this. Its only the people who have jumped on the bandwagon in the last few years that are okay with this.
Some people seem to like to hate
Didn't Harry kewell got to Galatasaray?what's the difference?
YES and he will never be welcome in Leeds again
The difference is that Kewell was actually playing that game just after the incident
@@rohithraman6488 And? What's your point?
@@leedsboy64 Really? What you going to do to stop him??
@@deanwood9893 I would not need to do anything it would happen