It was at THIS moment that the Sons of Kojima realized... they made a HUGE mistake. And then they turned on one another. And then they all turned to their bottle. With the last whispers among the populace diminishing, the last voice cried out... "POORLY MADE!"
Please don't bring up Xilph. He was so disgusting that he was denied membership for "Organization XIII" heck the heartless and nobodies were horrified by his smell alone!!!!
xilph: "Whaaaaaaaaat?! I got beaten by sora! this is bullshit! The game never told me what to do! (seal laugh) I don't even get emotions! This is so bullshit! "
You can tell in each cut when someone in his chat told Phil what to do. Phil would never be able to figure out the Zexion fight, for example, especially so if he doesn't know what Aerial Recovery is.
The reason the boss fights are so terrible is that Phil completely refused to understand the mechanics behind each and every one. That is why they take so long and are so tedious to watch. If it weren't for the fact that most of the game is fairly easy, he would have been dying just as often as Dark Souls. Admittedly, it's not the most entertaining thing to watch, but the fights are utter failures, make no mistake.
+JMarsella9 It baffles the mind how Phil couldn't figure out the boss fights. Most of the time it boils down to press square to attack and triangle to not die.
Literally the entire time I just kept going "How?! How are you this bad?!" 17 year old me on his first try when this game first came out had NO problem.
Kingdom Hearts 2 is one of the best PS2 games of all time. After watching all the games i couldn't play... this series story is so damn deep. This is gonna be a trip....
+IQ2992 we should get disney to sue phil this is abuse of a great game i may suck at it but i would never play it online if am going to make it look this bad
Man this was a treat to watch live! Fred, your Cr1tikal impression was fucking hilarious! This really was an endure though. Funny to see AJ was the only one really into the TIHYDP.
Holy Shit, 3 hours! Usually I end up watching an hour or so then having a short break and going back an hour later, but methinks I might try and watch the whole thing in one sitting. Should be fun :D
The best way to watch the let's endure are watching them live on twitch. Because I fuck around & put gifs in the chat & people talk a lot of funny shit in the chat. lol #TrueEntertainment
On normal, I died once to Axel 2, saved by Mickey once with no further deaths to Xaldin, and once to final Xemnas. A fair number of deaths to Sephiroth as well. This was the PS2 version so no Data bosses or Lingering Will.
be careful guys, watching too much dsp can ruin your gaming skills. last time i played gta 3, the combat got harder for me after watching dsp without playing a game in a week
Someone mind explaining to me what is with the SoK? I used to watch their older lets endures and they all seemed like pals, now it just seems like they hate each other.
+Darigan222 Why would we hate eachother if we're in skype calls all the time? Watching this entire TIHYDP was exhausting, so we tend to say stupid and silly things.
I fail to understand how someone can have trouble with this game. I love KH2 and while yes some of the bosses have patterns you have to learn most of the time it's"Press Triangle To Win." SIMPLE. CONCEPT. If he ever took on the Cavern Of Remembrance/Garden Of Assemblage (assuming he ever GOT that far) we'd be here for the rest of time. Also Fun Fact: Chris Saradon did all the speaking lines for Jack but Danny Elfman did Jack when he was singing.
38:48 ok I did buy this game without playing CoM (I didn't have a GBA growing up) and I wasn't even all that lost playing it. Also the prologue was long but it didn't take me 4 fucking hours
i have one question. do phil think everything should happen right in front of the camera?? so if a soldier in say cod is behind him he should run infront of him before he shoots?
I'm not sure I got why you gave so much crap to this TIHYDP in particular. Both MGS 1 and Jak 2 were 3 hours long, and neither of those playthroughs were 30+ hours long. I consider it a miracle that this playthrough was condensed so much as it was to about a 10th of the original length. Heck, KH1 was likewise also 3 hours long in total, and it seemed to be cut in a similar style of Phil occasionally showing a little competence between his incompetence (especially since they were all done by the same guy it seems). The difference I suspect is that you watched that one in 2 sessions, which allowed the time to pass more smoothly. It might also simply be that Phil's stupidity was a bit more of a one-note flavor this time around, even if he gave such an absurd abundance of it. It's weird that this is the first time in one of these Let's Endures I was more interested in what Phil was saying, than what the SOK was saying, because at least it related at all to what was shown. It might be easier for your sanity if you started doing these Endures in 2 sessions, to at least give you a chance to freshen up in between, and to increase the quality of commentary. Either way, keep up the good work, can't wait for Dark Souls 2...
+Arkens True, MGS and Jak 2 were long, but they were filled with honest failures. This one is just filled with Phil being an idiot and doing back accents most of the time. If you trimmed out the filler, it would probably be 20 minutes long.
*Reading for the 3 tests I have this week. Am also peeved because Corrin and Bayonetta hit up Smash, as well, leaving little time to test them out. Hears phone go off and sees this in Subs. Grabs popcorn* This is gonna be good...
I have to step up a bit this late and telll that he wasn't mimicking SpongeBob, but an annoying enemy in Dark Castle from an avgn episode, since he was the only one showing off that annoying sound. That "na-na-na-na-na" sound. (I wonder why he would do that? To punish us for a bit? Hm.. maybe.) Also, I've been checking up quite the lot of these endures, guess I'm just a bit sadistic. X) It also helps during heatstrokes due to an extremely hot summer. you're eating time like melting icecream, just not as much as Civ V though .That eats up ALL your time! XD
Just be lucky you watched this TIHYDP. There's one that is *SEVEN* hours long. That's right! You only saw *HALF* of the horrible content of this playthrough. His Kingdom Hearts II playthrough is something that I can easily call his worst. The bottom of the barrel when it comes to DarkSydePhil. Up there with Dark Souls, Jak II, Skyward Sword, and Persona 4. It has everything wrong with Phil here: His horrible sex jokes (for a kids game), him blaming the controls for his lack of skill, losing to easy bosses like the MCP and Saix, Complaining, his *HORRIBLE* singing and butchering childhood favorites, and the annoying commentary (Mostly the Mickey voice). Heck, even though he played it on Standard mode he shouldn't have had a problem here because, outside of critical mode, Kingdom Hearts II is an easy game like Skyward Sword (PS NOT looking forward to him butchering Twilight Princess), and yet he *STILL* finds a way to butcher it. One of his worst.
+Will Hilton (ZedReviews) oh idk, i haven't really heard anything in terms of PR with the finebros. but from what i've seen so far, they've been really relaxed on this stuff...
luneth34 Nope, they actually have started taking down videos. Going so far as to call out Ellen Degeneres for making a skit on her show about kids reacting to something on her show.
The way I see it, Phil plays these games. He's not very good at them and he rages a lot, but he has people who watch his streams and help him because they love these games and they want to help other people love them too. This entire relationship is bases around everyone's love for gaming. But then he tries to make it a full time job...
jesus i wonder why sora could be crying its not like the part of him thats roxas had any fealings to the kids also as a side note i like how sora has 2 nobodies in him Xion and roxas
Sora doesn't have 2 nobodies, he only has Roxas. Xion is a puppet made from the memories leaked from Sora while he was in the pod. It's weird to explain but in universe it kind of makes sense.
+TJTaylor1996 she may not be a nobody but i was right about her being in sora,the organisation wanted her to replace roxa, shes a organisation made nobody,kind of
typically i wouldnt give anyone shit for reading a wiki to a game series that decided to but major story elements across 4 completely different game systems
I like how Phil has the nerve to complain about all the negativity surrounding him when all he does is complain and hurl insults.Not to mention he asks for "intelligent conversations" in his chats despite him being incapable of doing so himself. I shudder at the thought of what his idea is.And TBH anyone who doesn't get why us "haters" like to follow Phil around is just clueless about today's world: if anything is strange enough lots of people will follow it.Speaking of which, I like how Phil boasts about how he films his entire life for us to see, then calls people who watch all his videos stalkers.
I'm sorry but this is a mess, too many people mumbling and giggling can't even hear phil or half of what is being said just...no, if you are going to mock someone don't make fools of yourselves int he process
played all the kh games since kh came out and seeing dsp fail at it, hurts my childhood. i had no issues as a preteen to my early adult years but a middle aged man has an issue with it.
I've been playing Proud Mode for the first time and trailing my progress compared to this guy. So far I think I've still done better. Still puzzles me though how he can beat Zexion when I couldn't (though I did beat Larxene tonight, not long after Xaldin who was a pain in the ass but I actually liked the challenge he brought)
He killed axel in 5 finishers. He's definitely playing this game on begginer mode. I'm currently 13 and have beaten this game maybe 30 times on critical mode. the fact that this 30 yearold manchild can barely beat it on beat it on beggineer is sad as hell
As a child, little 12 year old me thinking that blocking was stupid and that raw attacking was the way to go. Beat this game, including Sephiroth, on proud. The game is literally idiot proof.Can't beat something, grind for 20 minutes, stomp it to death. Repeat.
+Dr. Dank Then wouldn't that mean all of the TIHYDP's are poorly put together?....... What am I talking about? muting Phil is probably the best thing to happen to TH-cam.
It was at THIS moment that the Sons of Kojima realized... they made a HUGE mistake. And then they turned on one another. And then they all turned to their bottle. With the last whispers among the populace diminishing, the last voice cried out...
"POORLY MADE!"
+RADRAD's RAD Games It's going to be a meme for the SoK right?
+RADRAD's RAD Games Should be a meme.
Yeah, they doxxed people. That was their mistake.
I know that's right, Rad.
If Phil had a Nobody it'd be completely infected with gout.
Please don't bring up Xilph. He was so disgusting that he was denied membership for "Organization XIII"
heck the heartless and nobodies were horrified by his smell alone!!!!
"I lost my heart. This is BULLSHIT. Nothing I could do. Come onnnnnnn man ack ack ack "snort."
More like "Come onnnnnnn man ACK ACK ACK *Xeha-Snort*"
sorry bad puns are my specialty...
xilph: "Whaaaaaaaaat?! I got beaten by sora! this is bullshit! The game never told me what to do! (seal laugh) I don't even get emotions! This is so bullshit! "
If Phil was Xemnas it'd be "Anger and weight are supreme."
Oh boy...3hours eh? Truly, a Let's Endure that lives up to it's name...
Yee
You can tell in each cut when someone in his chat told Phil what to do. Phil would never be able to figure out the Zexion fight, for example, especially so if he doesn't know what Aerial Recovery is.
15:22 oh my god I could do that shit in less than 10 seconds when I was fucking six years old.
The reason the boss fights are so terrible is that Phil completely refused to understand the mechanics behind each and every one. That is why they take so long and are so tedious to watch. If it weren't for the fact that most of the game is fairly easy, he would have been dying just as often as Dark Souls. Admittedly, it's not the most entertaining thing to watch, but the fights are utter failures, make no mistake.
+JMarsella9 It baffles the mind how Phil couldn't figure out the boss fights. Most of the time it boils down to press square to attack and triangle to not die.
Literally the entire time I just kept going "How?! How are you this bad?!" 17 year old me on his first try when this game first came out had NO problem.
46:43 Moogle has shit pants
+loophole572 nice meme
MoogleFantasy maggles shit pants are a shit PIECE
"I'm a huge fan of DSP, I read the comics."
Kingdom Hearts 2 is one of the best PS2 games of all time. After watching all the games i couldn't play... this series story is so damn deep. This is gonna be a trip....
+IQ2992
we should get disney to sue phil this is abuse of a great game i may suck at it but i would never play it online if am going to make it look this bad
year 2999 let's endure kh3
This is why I love let's endures, they're hilarious XD
Man this was a treat to watch live!
Fred, your Cr1tikal impression was fucking hilarious!
This really was an endure though. Funny to see AJ was the only one really into the TIHYDP.
i watched the whole thing
the shitpeace and gooby jokes kept me going
A few days ago I bought myself kingdom hearts 2 I didn't die once as Roxas I mean how does someone lose a fight against axel?
I fuckin' love "POORLY MADE!" it makes me laugh everytime xD
I watched this in one sitting...holy crap.
Holy Shit, 3 hours! Usually I end up watching an hour or so then having a short break and going back an hour later, but methinks I might try and watch the whole thing in one sitting. Should be fun :D
Somebody actually had to suffer to make this.
Somehow, I beat Final Xemnas on my first playthrough with no deaths, but died three times to Hayner in the Struggle preliminaries...
Little does Phil know anti form has a higher chance of happening during boss fights
1:37:58
Disney THEMSELVES said that the birds in the sky spelled SFX.
Why did you shut down Ardnas
I don't even know what happened
... Is it just me or does DSP sound like he's saying Anta-form?
You're right, I WAS looking forward to this.
I hope I'm not dead after this.
The best way to watch the let's endure are watching them live on twitch. Because I fuck around & put gifs in the chat & people talk a lot of funny shit in the chat. lol
#TrueEntertainment
+TheSuperiorArtist10,000 Good sir, when are these usually streamed, if you would be so kind?
how long till y'all try to copyright "Let's Endures"? :^)
They already did , they took down ardnas apparently
+Noztra Guy fred did it
+Noztra Guy Which is sad, as I liked Ardnas equally as much...😔
Kingdom Gout 2
+Zach McD King of Gout 2
GoutSydePhil
+Zach McD Fallgout
Final Fattasy VII
SapphireSword75 75
Super Salty 3-D Gout.
the dislikes are rather confusing. but i im all full of vodka and i made soup and got more vodka so i wont think about that for now.
yay
9:34 Holy shit DSP just called that a fucking zipperhead. No one is going to acknowledge this?
On normal, I died once to Axel 2, saved by Mickey once with no further deaths to Xaldin, and once to final Xemnas. A fair number of deaths to Sephiroth as well. This was the PS2 version so no Data bosses or Lingering Will.
be careful guys, watching too much dsp can ruin your gaming skills. last time i played gta 3, the combat got harder for me after watching dsp without playing a game in a week
Oh boy, I remember doing a Lets Endure of this, it physically and mentally drained me.
Sorry for your drainage, hopefully you recover enough.
Daryl Green
Oh this was last year.
+AshXXMayftw the physical scars heal but the mental ones never truly go away...
This is probably one of the best let's endures you've made so far. =3
Someone mind explaining to me what is with the SoK? I used to watch their older lets endures and they all seemed like pals, now it just seems like they hate each other.
+Darigan222 Why would we hate eachother if we're in skype calls all the time? Watching this entire TIHYDP was exhausting, so we tend to say stupid and silly things.
+Mooglemaster102 ahh okay was just worried for a second. I really wouldn't want the SoK to disband. You guys are funny as hell keep up the good work.
Darigan222 It's just all character really, it's nothing to worry about. :P
SOK should do an evil within endure. loved that game. watching phil fumble around a real survival horror game was wonderful.
5:05 and i already hate him. He chose standard mode even though beginner mode is perfect for him.
I fail to understand how someone can have trouble with this game. I love KH2 and while yes some of the bosses have patterns you have to learn most of the time it's"Press Triangle To Win." SIMPLE. CONCEPT.
If he ever took on the Cavern Of Remembrance/Garden Of Assemblage (assuming he ever GOT that far) we'd be here for the rest of time.
Also Fun Fact: Chris Saradon did all the speaking lines for Jack but Danny Elfman did Jack when he was singing.
38:48 ok I did buy this game without playing CoM (I didn't have a GBA growing up) and I wasn't even all that lost playing it.
Also the prologue was long but it didn't take me 4 fucking hours
one of the best lets endures :D
Well, at least Danger Dolan's voice isn't like falcon talons shreading my eardrums.
Three hours... well time to bookmark some playthrough until tomorrow.
I watched this in one sitting. :)
+BenyoBoy you are a stronger man than I.
GunFuMasterHS
Also, I have no life, apparently. :D
I'm surprised that nobody said anything about how Phil confused Roxas and Riku at the beginning.
Oh neat, one of my comments appeared in a TIHYDP.
Shoutout Sean Ranklin
i have one question. do phil think everything should happen right in front of the camera?? so if a soldier in say cod is behind him he should run infront of him before he shoots?
I'm not sure I got why you gave so much crap to this TIHYDP in particular. Both MGS 1 and Jak 2 were 3 hours long, and neither of those playthroughs were 30+ hours long. I consider it a miracle that this playthrough was condensed so much as it was to about a 10th of the original length. Heck, KH1 was likewise also 3 hours long in total, and it seemed to be cut in a similar style of Phil occasionally showing a little competence between his incompetence (especially since they were all done by the same guy it seems). The difference I suspect is that you watched that one in 2 sessions, which allowed the time to pass more smoothly.
It might also simply be that Phil's stupidity was a bit more of a one-note flavor this time around, even if he gave such an absurd abundance of it. It's weird that this is the first time in one of these Let's Endures I was more interested in what Phil was saying, than what the SOK was saying, because at least it related at all to what was shown. It might be easier for your sanity if you started doing these Endures in 2 sessions, to at least give you a chance to freshen up in between, and to increase the quality of commentary. Either way, keep up the good work, can't wait for Dark Souls 2...
+Arkens I think they've gotten drunk from how bad of a playthrough it is that they stopped caring
+Arkens True, MGS and Jak 2 were long, but they were filled with honest failures. This one is just filled with Phil being an idiot and doing back accents most of the time. If you trimmed out the filler, it would probably be 20 minutes long.
one of my fav games of all time
*Reading for the 3 tests I have this week. Am also peeved because Corrin and Bayonetta hit up Smash, as well, leaving little time to test them out. Hears phone go off and sees this in Subs. Grabs popcorn*
This is gonna be good...
Yeah for his own good, Kingdom hearts 3 should be a game that Phil should not touch for a least 2 or more months after it's realease.
I have to step up a bit this late and telll that he wasn't mimicking SpongeBob, but an annoying enemy in Dark Castle from an avgn episode, since he was the only one showing off that annoying sound. That "na-na-na-na-na" sound. (I wonder why he would do that? To punish us for a bit? Hm.. maybe.)
Also, I've been checking up quite the lot of these endures, guess I'm just a bit sadistic. X) It also helps during heatstrokes due to an extremely hot summer. you're eating time like melting icecream, just not as much as Civ V though .That eats up ALL your time! XD
is the low framerate because of the game or the recording?
The recording.
can you guys do a lets endure of Phil playing the old uncharted games
I got 69% in and then skipped to the end battle. I couldn't handle it anymore.
wow, the SoK members went fucking savage on each other
Flippity Flopity Floop.
Just be lucky you watched this TIHYDP. There's one that is *SEVEN* hours long. That's right! You only saw *HALF* of the horrible content of this playthrough. His Kingdom Hearts II playthrough is something that I can easily call his worst. The bottom of the barrel when it comes to DarkSydePhil. Up there with Dark Souls, Jak II, Skyward Sword, and Persona 4. It has everything wrong with Phil here: His horrible sex jokes (for a kids game), him blaming the controls for his lack of skill, losing to easy bosses like the MCP and Saix, Complaining, his *HORRIBLE* singing and butchering childhood favorites, and the annoying commentary (Mostly the Mickey voice). Heck, even though he played it on Standard mode he shouldn't have had a problem here because, outside of critical mode, Kingdom Hearts II is an easy game like Skyward Sword (PS NOT looking forward to him butchering Twilight Princess), and yet he *STILL* finds a way to butcher it. One of his worst.
TheFineBros can't copyright this.
Oh, they'll try.
+Will Hilton (ZedReviews) oh idk, i haven't really heard anything in terms of PR with the finebros. but from what i've seen so far, they've been really relaxed on this stuff...
luneth34 Nope, they actually have started taking down videos. Going so far as to call out Ellen Degeneres for making a skit on her show about kids reacting to something on her show.
+Will Hilton (ZedReviews) Ey b0ss, they will copyright edups.
Star Flatinum Its fine that the Fine bros. can't fine them.
The way I see it, Phil plays these games. He's not very good at them and he rages a lot, but he has people who watch his streams and help him because they love these games and they want to help other people love them too. This entire relationship is bases around everyone's love for gaming.
But then he tries to make it a full time job...
+user1point0 Ironic seeing that he clearly doesn't love gaming. At least not anymore, but it's keeping him alive..... kinda.
jesus i wonder why sora could be crying its not like the part of him thats roxas had any fealings to the kids
also as a side note i like how sora has 2 nobodies in him Xion and roxas
Sora doesn't have 2 nobodies, he only has Roxas. Xion is a puppet made from the memories leaked from Sora while he was in the pod. It's weird to explain but in universe it kind of makes sense.
+TJTaylor1996 she may not be a nobody but i was right about her being in sora,the organisation wanted her to replace roxa, shes a organisation made nobody,kind of
3:11:37 Amazing Spongebob laugh!
typically i wouldnt give anyone shit for reading a wiki to a game series that decided to but major story elements across 4 completely different game systems
he kills my childhood gdi!
WHATS WITH THE DISLIKES?
THIS LETS ENDURE WAS GREAT!!!!
The dislikes are from The White Knights of Burnell House.
Knights of the Gout Table!
I like how Phil has the nerve to complain about all the negativity surrounding him when all he does is complain and hurl insults.Not to mention he asks for "intelligent conversations" in his chats despite him being incapable of doing so himself. I shudder at the thought of what his idea is.And TBH anyone who doesn't get why us "haters" like to follow Phil around is just clueless about today's world: if anything is strange enough lots of people will follow it.Speaking of which, I like how Phil boasts about how he films his entire life for us to see, then calls people who watch all his videos stalkers.
2:58:55 LOL! YES! It would be an honor Fred!
Were you serious about the "Turning the final boss into Touho" thing?
Uncle Dolan Show references, this shit got real :D
The moment I saw the thumbnail all the inner rage and darkness came flooding back to me. Why is he so bad at games.
So I've realized I really love kingdom hearts because this is my tenth time trying to finish this, but I can't stand him butchering this game series.
I'm sorry but this is a mess, too many people mumbling and giggling can't even hear phil or half of what is being said just...no, if you are going to mock someone don't make fools of yourselves int he process
i worder how many people got blocked during this playthough
i made 2 hours yesterday god help me if i make it though the rest
28:02 Shitpiece 😂😂😂
played all the kh games since kh came out and seeing dsp fail at it, hurts my childhood. i had no issues as a preteen to my early adult years but a middle aged man has an issue with it.
Pardon my ignorance, but since people are voting for this "Let's endures" apparently, i wonder - where i can leave my own vote ? Thanks in advance.
Three and a half hours! God, I don't think I'm gonna make it.
I've been playing Proud Mode for the first time and trailing my progress compared to this guy. So far I think I've still done better. Still puzzles me though how he can beat Zexion when I couldn't (though I did beat Larxene tonight, not long after Xaldin who was a pain in the ass but I actually liked the challenge he brought)
FFS, I beat Saix this afternoon (or is it yesterday afternoon?) and beat him in one try. On PROUD Mode. And I'm usually a bit of a scrub myself.
Here's where you hate on me, cause I played the game on Beginner. Might play though the game again on Standard mode.
It's finally been done!
Shit piece lol I almost died
After the opening song part I already had to take a break. How can DSP be so obnoxious in 1 minute. Damn.
And the award for Most Likely to get his a*s kicked in a game's First Boss goes to... Darksydephil.
LET'S ENDURE SCHTREEEEM CHAT PLAY KH2
Peanut Butter Cups are fucking delicious.
Yee more lets endure!!
31:25 I wish in lets endure I could find that moment where Phil says it
ohhh Hell no you do not call late great Chrisopher Lee a nobody. Only nobody I see is phil.
He killed axel in 5 finishers. He's definitely playing this game on begginer mode.
I'm currently 13 and have beaten this game maybe 30 times on critical mode. the fact that this 30 yearold manchild can barely beat it on beat it on beggineer is sad as hell
Kingdom Hearts 2 Is My Favorite PS2/PS3 Game!!!💜💜💜💛💛
and in 2 months ps4
As a child, little 12 year old me thinking that blocking was stupid and that raw attacking was the way to go. Beat this game, including Sephiroth, on proud. The game is literally idiot proof.Can't beat something, grind for 20 minutes, stomp it to death. Repeat.
man the singing hurts........
So did you beat Kingdom Hearts II on Critical Mode? I wonder how well you faired.
ata boy sephiroth, fuck em up
phil kills games for living and everyone has too endure it and it's horrible
+Jonathan Garcia He's like a serial killer, only dumb, and sucks at life.
+SapphireSword75 75 am playing this game now and in critical mode and am doing better then him
yo sok poeple wasnt Squall's first name Leon thought SEED was like the army where they love to call you by your sir name
+robert23456789 No, Squall's first name is indeed Squall. Leon comes from his surname Leonheart.
+robert23456789 I'm pretty certain that's not Squall. :P
Fred is extra salty in this video lol.
To be fair, he did have to talk through the intro so it wouldn't get a strike.He's still shit though. XD
1:38:46 THERE I AM!!!!
Mikey moose
I'm 45 minutes in, I can't fucking watch this. I already have a terrible headache showing up
Sethiropth At 2:43:06
This TIHYDP was really poorly put together. Every time Phil talks is highlighted.
+Dr. Dank Then wouldn't that mean all of the TIHYDP's are poorly put together?....... What am I talking about? muting Phil is probably the best thing to happen to TH-cam.