Testing Shaper Origin Handheld CNC Machine
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- This week I a putting Shaper Origin through its paces. I'm so excited to finally have a CNC in my shop. The great thing about this tool is it is ready to go right out of the box, and.... it stores in a box!
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ok that is nuts, the fact that it moves to correct exactly, I thought it was just a visual guide with a fixed head.. really impressive, also that it raises the bit if you go over a line !
Hi Michael, I have ordered the Shaper, and while waiting for it to arrive I decided to watch some videos to prepare a bit. I came across your video and now I'm even more excited about my purchase, and can't wait to get started. Thank you for the inspiration. Cheers from Denmark
after watching countless TH-cam on Shaper origin , this is the best demonstration even non woodworker like me understood. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
You've showed us how amazing plywood can look, I can't even imagine what all you'll be able to accomplish with this tool also! Love to see more videos with the Shaper since I have also been eye balling it.
Yes, please do all the Shaper videos you want. I'm cool with that!
Yes. I’d love to see more on the shaper tool
Hi. Cool tool. Like a real CNC but with a footprint of a hand router.
I like your protective glasses. What brand are they?
Greetings from Sweden!
I bought this during the crowd funding phase. I got it for 1500. Coolest machine I own!
Thank you for bringing my attention to and sharing your experience with this tool. I too am impressed.
Yes please more vids on this. You have convinced me to pull the trigger!
show me more please - that tool may be perfect for my crowded shop, and I like how it still leaves room for the individual woodworkers artistry
Never understood comparing this to a CNC, it is most definitely not a CNC, it's more of a tracing router. I have several CNCs and their purpose is to not only speed up my builds but automate processes so I can focus on other projects. Having to make sure I always have that tape on hand and having to spend hours being the motor for it means it's a no for me but for small projects I can see how it might be helpful.
The other factor is the cost being greater then the features, I have CNC operations that take a motorized system hours to cut and doing that by hand would be exhausting.
For small projects it's much less helpful. If you're using it for small projects than a simple desktop CNC will be much better. He showed the best case scenario where you're doing a section on something like a table top, but if you're regularly doing that, then a full size CNC is way more useful.
That’s amazing! It actually moves itself and keeps itself on track. Mind blown!
After suffering with trying to make a traditional CNC user-friendly, this tool looks like the magic solution we were looking for! We'll definitely pick one of these up in the future.
Here’s a tip learn how to use a router and you won’t need to control it with a computer
regular cnc's are much more user friendly for me than this. I am unable to move my hands in any steady or reliable way.
Until you see the pricetag...and you realise that you need to hold the machine all the damn time...A cnc you click start and comeback in some time and your project is done..And btw...a roll of tape costs 16 dollars before tax...
Jon Jon try using a larger router let the weight and base do the holding for you
@@mattberg6816 controlling the thing with code is much simpler than with hands, I dont know about yours but my hands dont work as advertised.
I was hoping I could just hit start and a system of wheels would perfectly move the router, but this is cool too!
Did u just... invent something
Whoa. That could be really great. Like a Roomba router
I trust your review! Your the kind of woodworker I aspire to become! Making custom stave snare drums right now! This would be super handy to cut round rings with for drum hoops.
Yes please more content with the shaper origin. I’ve been on the fence about buying one for a couple months now. If you could make an MFT too with it and evaluate the precision of the hole layout you’d be my hero!
Shaper is awesome. I got in on the pre-order a couple years ago and I am still learning and finding out new tricks for mine. Incredible tool! Good video.
Do you know what plugin to use to export svg files from sketchup. I’m going to leave a comment too thanks.
OMG I had no idea what it even was, watched the video and it's on my oh so fabulous wish list. Thank you for expanding my knowledge of wood working tools.
This is a fantastic video on Shaper. Most videos start from the perspective of the user already having experienced the tool. But you starting from unboxing made it super informative. (Still trying time figure out grids). Please definitely put out 1 or 2 or even more videos on this tool. (Finger joints etc.) You’re a great educator with appealing style. THANK YOU. (Was just using the Shinto rasp you recommended on the banana video, when this video popped up :)
Thanks! Grid was a little hard to explain. It basically sets up an origin point with axis that run the edge of your board. You can then grid that out in any increment you want. The layout tool then snaps your drawing to that grid. It’s really intuitive in person, but tough to verbalize.
I've seen Laura Kampf using one of these, but never seen it more fully explained. It's a bit more complex than I initially thought. Not complicated, just there's more going on than I've seen in Laura's videos.
I got really excited when I saw this years ago. They have been promising 240V version for ever now. They keep saying soon. According to them soon is almost 4 years.
Just buy a “normal” cnc for half the price..you’ll thank me later..
I just had a look on their website and they're offering it with US, EU and UK plugs now. When you click the UK option, the operating voltage in the specification changes, so it looks like they've finally made a UK/EU version.
Why would 240V version matter? Don't they have adapters for various output voltages?
This such a cool tool. It is super expensive, but I'm still tempted. Thanks for sharing this.
Why wouldn’t a normal cnc machine be a option??
@@justkiddin1980 most people don't have the space for a full sized cnc.
@@CrazeUK Hmmm...i don't know there are always options possible when you can fold it away or store it under a work surface...You really need to think about the cost and ease of use of this machine..It is really really expensive and not really easy to use...because you need to hover over your project all the damn time..So i dont care but if you want to spend about 4500 pounds and only do very small projects be my guest...and a viable alternative would be a nice ooznest workbee for one third of the price...I just ordered mine 1000×1000 for 1500 pounds...
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I agree. It is for an enhanced router.
I was shocked when I saw the price. As I was watching it I was trying to think about how much it would cost and I guessed $1000 max, damn was I wrong..haha
Please mention to shaper tools that they have future customers in Australia if they release it here!
Agh well this video answers my question in a comment I left in another of your videos. Its amazing how the router controls where it is in space. Just crazy.
Thanks heaps for sharing this video.
Keep up the great work.
I have one and love it! Yes, it's pricey but it is totally worth it! I have never liked the idea of setting something to cut on a regular CNC and just walking away. This puts the handcrafted personal touch back in it while still getting CNC accuracy. Great vid!
I saw this in a demo tonight, and hear I am watching TH-cam videos about it. The other shocking thing is how quiet the router part is. The Festool vacuum is louder then this machine!
Amazing!!! But at $2.5k I don't know how essential this tool is for a DIY woodworking shop. I believe the big advantages are size and portability. A CNC takes up space in a shop and is not portable to a job site. I want to see more. Nice video. Keep it up!!! I just subscribed.
The "up-cut bits" are endmills. There's flat, bull-nosed and ball end (and many others). Then there's the differentiation with left and right-hand cutters referencing the twist orientation of the cutting flutes.
Great looking tool though, that must make routing a breeze!
for anyone interested in the niche advantages this offers over a full cnc, it sounds like goliath cnc by springa is shipping to kickstarter backers really soon and it may interest you too. its similarly compact but fully automated.
while your comments on and experiences with this machine are probably honest, its interesting to see it working and it does look impressive, i read between the lines that it is yours to keep, even though you strongly and intentionally reiterate that you get nothing out of this at the beginning and again at the end.
gotta say, i wonder. or are you planning on paying $2500 for it?
If it makes money, why not pay $2500 for it? Some people throw away money they don't have on cars that don't make any returns. A professional grade table saw or a CNC router would probably be close to that if not more, so what is your point?
@@alex.cristescu I think his point is that if they've given him the unit to keep for free that that might more favorably color his evaluation of it.
@@scottatutube1 Except they didn't give it to him for free. They gave it to him to test and give his opinion on it. They didn't even ask for a video to be made on it.
OP is saying he is "reading between the lines", but in reality he is just making shit up. It's illegal for content creators and companies to not admit if something is being given away in exchange for content. Even if Shaper wanted Alm to make a video in return for the tool, Alm would be legally obligated to disclose that fact.
The fact is that Alm blatantly admitted that Shaper did not ask anything except for his personal opinion on testing it. They could have asked for a video and they didn't. If you're calling Michael Alm a liar, that's another story.
Skyhound Still you will be standing over the thing for hours if you want to do some serious projects..the tape is 16 dollars a roll without tax..If you have the room and the same or half the money you are always better of buying a normal cnc router..
Yes, keep it coming, the way you demo the tool make the project flow! James
What a great tool!!! Manual, mobile CNC machine!!! But ! It works, is serviced and supported only where you bought it!!! With this “mobile” tool you go to another country to work and there is NO update support and you can’t even log into your personal account! All "mobility" is lost. For this money you can buy a stationary CNC machine for your workshop and it will be better. It's like a Land Rover working near a car service station! And the idea is very good for small carpentry workshops.
Great video as always. I was on the fence about grabbing one of these during their sale this week but I think this video sealed the deal for me. Thanks!
Probably one of the most amazing tools out there now...
Hope Festool can keep the nose up on this. Was excited to see it hit market.... but having long-term customer support is the most important component of this tool experience.
First time I saw this on Laura Kampf channel I wanted it. This is great video and has me convinced. Love to see some more videos and definitely keen to see it cut dovetails or something similar.
I don't think it will work with a dovetail bit because he said it lifts the bit if you get off track, which would destroy a dovetail joint. This is just based on the info in this video, I don't own one, and this is the first I've ever heard of it. If someone knows more please correct me if I'm wrong.
This tool is amazing for people who need cnc but don't have the room for a dedicated cnc table.
Yes, more on the Shaper please!!
It’s crazy to see all the hacks that traditional CNC machines have worked out be re-thought
Glad to see you you're enjoying the Shaper. I love mine SO MUCH! Can't wait to see more videos...I've got to make some more too!
This is not what its made out to be can you cut real square angles with a round cotter
I'm not sure I'd call it a "handheld CNC".
It seems to be more of a "computer assisted router".
It's like a Jarvis upgraded router. 😉
Isn't that what a CNC machine is?
@@JustinRoffMarsh a router on roids.
And it is ridicolously expensive..
Computer assisted router, so it's a CAR?
Yes please show more
Amazing tool, totally worth the price.
Definitely would like more in the shaper. Hopefully this isn’t coming too late.
I'll keep my CNC, thank you very much!
Yes more videos more videos more videos on the origin
Yes, more shaper videos!!!!
Excellent demonstration. I would like to see more videos. Thank you
This router is insane! 👌🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Yes, more Shaper Origin videos please!
I'd definitely like to see more Origin video. Keep 'em coming!
Yes please if you are happy to do another Shaper vid I’m interested!
Yep, more videos on Shaper Origin would me most welcomed - I own the Puppy and want to use it to overcome my buyer's remorse - which is rapidly disappearing!
How is your back doing after all the projects you’ve made?? And are you happy with the pricing of the consumables??
Its a router... Its literally just a router... The point of a CNC is you program it and it does the work without you having to touch it. This is just a really fancy router.
This is in insane step up from the old giant cnc's haha. Looks awesome.
It's for specific uses though.
Big cncs do much more than this. Not a step up really
For hard to reach places its cool but seems like a normal cnc would be a better use of your time
Awesome intro. Looking forward to seeing what you do with it next.
Great. Video! I’d like to see more about the shaper.
I would love to see more shaper videos. Nice work! That fit on the cabinet is excellent.
Thanks Brian!
I never thought we would be obsolete in woodworking but now I am concerned
I appreciate the video! I'm currently thinking of purchasing a shaper as I'm restricted by my shop size - plus it comes in a systainer to go along with all my festool!!
As others have mentioned, a better name for this very cool machine would be "Router for Dummies"!
I'll still run from it after the singularity, though...
That's a tool I've taken to my heart. Super!!
Excellent review and tips ... I'm sold, gonna pick one up for sure now.
this is the coolest thing I've ever seen!!! and as usual like without lookin!!!
Great video it’s exactly what I was looking for. I haven’t scoured your channel yet but I wouldn’t mind seeing some box and dovetail joints
Yes, more videos please
Excellent router! Nice repurposing of cereal boxes!
Great informational video! I'm new to Shaper and excited to learn more!
first question: what stops the machine from just going all over the place? if its hand held how is such precision possible using your hands?
Yes please - another video
In the valley you see them on craigslist or marketplace pop up couple times a year. I thought about buying one since they first came out on preorder for 1600. Eventually I will get one, I just got to many tool's that do the same thing as this can.
How about making a sliding barn door with one of patterns that you can make I bet it would look beautiful have you thought to make one I would really love to see how it turns out
First time I've heard of this device. Sounds interesting and since Festool is connected to it that gives me hope of quality and that the company won't fold in 3 years...
I'd like to see if it can do any of the following:
1. a mortise and tenon joint
2. A curved surface like a chair seat
3. A curved plane raised panel
It is also way overpriced just like festool..😅
please don't compare this tool to festool because if you delve deeper into festool you will find to your dismay it's far from top quality this may well be first quality but festool is not
@@fredblair4307 this is very true. People seems to think festool tools are of extreme quality because of their price. I have owned multiple festool tools and found that they do have nice features but the overall quality is actually very low when you look at the price they charge. If you take out the systainer setups they have the only real feature they have is dust collection and this is only good on some of their tools. If they didn’t have the systainer setups I think most people would really not be willing to pay the price they have especially when you have to get proprietary consumables. If a tool maker like Milwaukee would make a nicer tier set of tools that included inserts for their tool boxes and some dust collection for half the price they would run festool under .
@@fredblair4307 It’s hard not to compare it to Festool. Festool owns the Shaper system, so it IS a Festool.
Very impressive Michael, I’d never even heard of this machine if i see cnc on a video link I’ll skip it only because of the space they take up but this is a whole new Ball game, yes please more on this 👍🇺🇸🇬🇧😷
great overview and flow, as usual Michael.Iooking for some files, similar to the hub, but looking for small project files to build little projects on the workstation or bench hook jigs as a progress skill learning tool. Going forward if you post or sell files for small projects of varying difficulty i think it would be a great way to really learn how to use the machine and get the most out of it in the shortest time. Origin is starting with the premium projects, but they are for larger projects, other than lets say just inlays, cutouts coasters or more artistic gift projects to give away as you learn and enjoy the machine.
Nice .Will be looking into this
Yes please.. more like this 👍🏻
Bring on more Shaper videos!
Coming soon! 🙌
@@MichaelAlm mine gets in Tuesday. Super excited!
This was fascinating. Show us its features and capabilities
They should add a frame and robotic arms so it can cut without you being there.
🤣🤣🤣 or just buy a regular cnc
Sick tool! Im almost scared to google it!
More shaping for me too ! I'm interested on how you like it on a longer term, and mostely what are the drawbacks :)
Thanks for the video (a new subscriber)
Btw. Shaper doesn’t do 3D carvings. It’s mostly a 2d cnc that u vary the depth. I’ve heard the best solution is get the shaper for the ability to do very large projects and then get a small traditional cnc to do the 3D carvings.
I really liked this video. It well organized and informative, thanks. Love the Shaper tool.
I have recently retired and I am in the process of building a shop from an old barn on our property. This is the first time in. many years that I am without a shop to work in ( For 30 years I had a shop at my work that I had free rein in so I am missing that)
Anyway I was quite taken by what I could see of your shop, do you have a video about your space, how it is laid out and what you do and don't like about it.
Perhaps you already have done that , Anyway thanks again
Great video 🎉😊 Very informative!
Incredible!!!!
Very interesting, yes more videos.
What a nice nifty tool ...and great video!
I don’t think I would ever stop using it
I think your back will tell you otherwise..😜😜
I make a lot of signs and plaques with a hand-held router, but as I get older, carpal tunnel syndrome is affecting my ability to work as fast (lots of breaks needed). A lot of it is exacerbated by the fine, precise movements I have to make to control the bit over my pattern. I'm wondering if you believe - based on your experience with it now - the stress on the hands with the Shaper would be less since the need to follow a path so precisely is eliminated.
I am going to buy that it is so cool thanks for making this video Sir
That is awesome. What a great idea!
Really cool tool
£3300 in the UK with the box and other bits!!! That's a lot of money for a smart router even for people like me who like technology. Even taking a premium into account its too expensive for me to justify. Good for larger projects though where you aren't limited to the CNC bed size.
I dont really get why you need the tape but looks very easy to use,I would love more videos
The machine can zero out it's z axis (up and down) but has no physical reference for x and y. The dots on the tape are specific patterns so you basically give it a super detailed map of the workpiece with the tape. Then a camera tracks it to know its xy references.
I’m getting one. Wow.
It's Lovely Tool, Fantastic, worth for money.
Wow, it is really cool! The problem is the price, it is too high. For usd 2500 you can buy premium components to build a proper router.
Or just a really nice cnc kit...And save your back and wallet too:.
How much does the tape cost? I would love to see more videos about origin
$18 a roll. It goes a long way. Especially if you make fixtures like Michael demonstrated.
@@michelleschry1255 You can print it on paper with free software.
More Origin please