Korone Panics When a Mega Man Designer Shows Up As She's Complaining About Mega Man 3 [Hololive]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- Korone tries to hide the evidence after being caught in 4k. That being said, her list of annoyances/frustrations obviously weren't mean-spirited, so hopefully Ariga-sensei wasn't offended.
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For those who dont know, Ariga ( most known for) is the artist and writer for the Megaman/Rockman Megamix and Gigamix mangas.. He has been there for most of the Hololive Megaman streams and has drawn them.
He's also for being a Pokemon designer since the 6th generation, designing Pokemon such as Tyrantrum, Vikavolt and Corviknight
He's also got a video on his channel which is the Namco x Capcom opening but with his Megamix designs.
Would love for Korone-chan asking Ariga about Legends 3, would love megaman legends 3
Additional context is he wasn't part of the games until Rockman and Forte (he designed the boxart, Burnerman and Dynamoman); he did submit design for MM8's robot master contest but none of them were selected. Before that he drew a 4-koma series in the early 90's and then his more famous Rockman Megamix and Gigamix. And iirc he's Yuzo Koshiro's brother-in-law, married to the younger sister Ayano, so the whole extended family is becoming a fan of Korone's at this point
@@PIKMINROCK1 man then what a great designer
I like how she spells her name “ko’one”
Watch OKFAMS, we have:
ko'one
ochowa shubao
nakirium
mama
friendo
okazu
the one k.o doggo
Korone really attracts a lot of people involved in the gaming industry. The power of the gamer doggo.
from doom to megaman,.
mr worldwide
If Cali is to ever try and convince Atlus to let her play Persona on stream again, she should bring Korone to help her. It'll definitively work.
@@VixYW Atlus is owned by Sega. Korone is basically sponsored by Sega.
Oh yeah, it's all coming together
@@neroneroren6788 they're just waiting for ko'one to say "i wanna try playing persona".
She IS the Doggy God after all.
Ariga is probably laughing at this list also.
"Yep, that sounds about right." *Takes a sip of sake.*
For context and clarity, he's an artist and mangaka, not a developer. He had no role in 3 beyond being a fan of the series back then. His first art design for the games was Rockman and Forte, doing the boxart and designing Burnerman and Dynamoman. The bulk of his work in this IP are manga adaptations, most of them were across the 90's with Megamix and Gigamix being by far the most standout and popular.
Her summon spells are so strong, they also regularly attract game/sound designers of all sorts.
The fact that she still gets many developers/designers just shows how much of a reach she has and how anyone can watch her
Also funny that she says she gets annoyed at herself when making mistakes lol
For me, it's because she plays a lot of the old games I grew up on.
Still want to see her take a crack at The Simpsons: Bart Vs. The Space Mutants.
Well, to be honest I was mainly angry about how bad I was playing because I let frustration get the best part of me specially on Airman, cue the song.
She's just very expressive at whatever game she plays really, and artists like feedbacks for their work, whether it is positive or negative(though mostly positive).
Korosan is also very creative, which a lot of people identify with and appreciate.
It’s japan. Those islands are pretty big but they’re smaller than you think. Plus everyone seems to live right next to eachother not counting the rural areas
"Wait, the designer's here? Anyway continuing my list, *the enemy designs are great* ..."
👀💦💦💦
lmao
Art design, to stress, and Ariga was not doing any art design for the games when 3 was made. He didn't start until Rockman and Forte, doing the boxart and designing Burnerman and Dyanmoman. He's just a very devoted fan of the IP and follows lots of vtubers streaming them. Ariga's more known for his manga serials, with two of his most standout work being Rockman Megamix and Gigamix, which adapt several game plots notably Rockman World 5 (the 5th GB game) in Gigamix. Leans into the Shotaro Ishinomori influences Rockman already had from inception like giving Blues a casual outfit that matches Saburo/Hakaider, since he already copies Saburo's gimmick of announcing his arrival by whistling.
1:56 The way she shoves the list off-screen with that panicked sound had me rolling 😂
Hitoshi Ariga is an artist for Mega Man manga and merchandise. He doesn't work on the games. But still very cool to see him appear in her chat.
Korone: "Damn Hedgehogs..."
Sonic: "Why hast thou forsaken me!"
This is just one of the reasons I enjoy Korone so much, she's knee deep into some of the coolest retro stuff like Mega Man and Sonic.
i love how when she gets rid of the Annoyances List she makes a noise and motion that really makes it seem like she threw it out the window as fast as she could
Korone resorts to the oldest trick in the book: deny everything. Girgiri Warukunai, Korone~
Lol Koone was annoyed at herself because she made so many mistakes. Understandable
I love how Korone immediately praised the game design because the game designer was there xD
For clarity, Ariga is an artist and mangaka, not a game designer or a developer- he had no role in 3 at all, he wasn't part of the games until Rockman and Forte. He did the boxart for Rockman and Forte as well as designed Burnerman and Dynamoman; he had submitted designs for MM8's contest but none won, but they can be seen in the credits roll. He's most famous in the context of this IP for two of his several manga adaptations in the 90s: Rockman Megamix and Rockman Gigamix. He's also done a good amount of work for Gamefreak on Pokemon's TCG as well as the games, being invited in by Ken Sugimori. All that being said, Megamix and Gigamix are awesome and if you've never read you should- Gigamix is amazing alone just for having an adaptation of Rockman World 5, the gameboy game.
He has a vtuber model himself too, but he hasn't streamed his work process in a while- he tends to retweet and follow other vtubers playing megaman or pokemon games. IIRC he's married to Yuzo Koshiro's sister Ayano, so the whole extended family is becoming a fan of Korone's at this point.
@@gtf234 to add to that, technically he was a part of Megaman 4 in a way - he was one of 8 kids in japan back then to win the megaman boss design challenge with his submission that he drew, it was for Brightman. so he has one of the 8 golden cartridges for megaman 4. its dope that he was a huge megaman fan since back then and later went on to work on official rockman manga for capcom, big fan of his work. I didn't know he was married to Yuzo Koshiros sister but thats dope! Yuzo Koshiro is such a great composer, love his stuff too!
@@mattasaurs Ariga worked as an illustrator and art designer for Ancient Corp in the early 90s for a few years, ie the Koshiro family company; Ayano is also an art designer for Ancient. He's in the credits for Actraiser 2.
He was supposed to be heading a Klonoa anime production but sadly that got cancelled officially a few years back. Maybe the upcoming remasters of Klonoa 1 and 2 will get that restarted with new interest.
But that aside, yeah, MegaMix and GigaMix are great- he really leans in hard on the Shotaro Ishinomori inspirations that were always prevalent across the Rockman IP like making Blues even more like Saburo/Hakkaider by giving him Saburo's outfit as casual wear. I feel like he had a lot of ideas that rippled out of those manga and influences other works in the IP, like the noticeable similarity between Shadowman.EXE and how Ariga depicted Shadowman; or how the Sentinel 4 inch figures came in a combo pack of Cutman and the MM7 Super Adapter Megaman (with the promo photos showing you can put Cutman's head on the SA body), when using the Super Adapter to fight the Space Rulers is a thing Cutman did in GigaMix.
@@gtf234 oh yeah I forgot we were gonna get a Klonoa anime, darn. Would be cool if it did get a second chance thanks to the collection that released recently
Today I learned Ariga is also Yuzo Koshiro's son-in-law. Yes, the one who made the sound for Korone's Fire Emblem cover as well as the KoroneRaiser BGM. Who's also known for composing the soundtracks of Streets of Rage, Actraiser, Wangan Midnight and many others.
Brother-in-Law, not son. He's married to Yuzo's sister Ayano; Ariga used to work at their family's company Ancient Corp in the early 90s
I guess this is why Koronen isn't the Megaman Ambassador
Fun fact: The devs HATE Megaman 3. It is apparently extremely unfinished, and they know how unpolished it is. Example: They did not have the time to do any weapon balance testing beyond making the weapons work.
I mean weapon balance in Megaman games have always been borderline broken. You either 5 shot the boss, or it makes for a decent challenge even with the weapon. Usually the first one. I liked Megaman 3 personally. 2 and 3 were my favorites.
Yeah the dev cycle for megaman 3 was hellish. This game totally could surpass mega man 2 if it was done right.
The top spin was the most useless weapon by far and they fuck with you by making the last boss weak against it.
@@DeadFishFactory Top Spin beating the last boss was one of those things you wouldn't try until you've cleared the game several times and definitely don't need anymore. :P
having a second controller made MM3 infinitely easier. Fall into a pit? Oh no worries. I'm holding Right on controller 2. I can't die. In fact, I'll just jump right out. :D
Boss battle? Naw, I'm holding Up and A on controller 2. That boss is frozen, baby.
0:26 That one comment that says “but airman is cute” while she’s complaining about airman. Lmao
When I've watched Iwata playing Balloon Fight on Game Station I learned that nothing gives more joy to a developer than a player rage quitting their game. In fact they designed it specifically for that.
Man the designer. Korone really has such popularity with everyone. As for the timing... damn.
An art designer, not any of the developers, and he didn't work on 3. Hitoshi Ariga is a mangaka who drew a few different Rockman manga over the 90's, the most popular and impactful being Megamix and Gigamix. He wouldn't do any illustration work for a proper game in the series until much later, Rockman and Forte. He drew the game's boxart and designed Burnerman and Dynamoman for it. Ariga is just a very loyal fan and likes to follow and retweet people streaming Rockman and Pokemon games (he also does a lot of illustration and design work for Pokemon and its TCG). He has a vtuber model himself too and is known to appear in the chats of Rockman streams. The funnier part is that he's Yuzo Koshiro's brother-in-law; so the extended family is now being consumed into Korone fandom
Reminds me of when the official Sonic the Hedgehog channel was watching Alpharad play Sonic Boom.
Of all the places I was expecting to see Alpharad mentioned, a Korone clip was not one of them.
The bees are avoidable. When you see the “mother” bee fly to the right, just move/slide slightly to the left until it’s gone, then continue back ahead, and it’ll be gone. Don’t go too far to the left or it’ll respawn again.
This doog is such a dork, I love it
I love how even non japanese speakers are able to somewhat hear Korone's accent, even more so when she types out loud lmao
The top annoyance in Mega Man 3 for me is definitely Doc Robot. I like the idea, but the fact that Doc Robot is so bulky means he can very easily corner you, even on the fights that are meant to be easy.
With the exception of Bubble Man, there is a very easy exploit for that one. But other than that the fights go from 'a decent challenge' to 'Doc Quick Man'.
Their stages also feel like unnecessary padding, they reuse assets and are way longer than they should. The Doc Robots also aren't interesting at all, giving a huge robot Quick Man's moveset and expecting it to fit is just complete bullshit. And the worst part is how jarring going from the annoying Doc Robot stages to the piss easy Wily Fortress ones is, it shows they didn't even bother scaling up the difficulty naturally and just shoved the Doc Robot stages in as filler (Which makes sense since MM3 is pretty much a released beta).
Those stages are just padding. It's genuinely cool seeing the bosses from Megaman 2, but that doesn't change the fact that the levels themselves don't serve any purpose other than to waste your time.
@@Dorian_Scott To be fair, you could say all the stages in a video game are 'padding' to waste your time.
The main issues with the stages themselves is the bosses being very bulky (especially when it comes to Doc Quick and Doc Air) and reliance upon Rush Jet for... was it one or two of them? ...Anyway, reliance on Rush Jet which means that if you run out of Rush Jet, you have to game over and start the stage all over again.
The Wily stages are guilty of this too, but at least it doesn't fall into the pitfall that Mega Man 2 and 4 did, of making the final boss vulernable to only ONE weapon, and if you run out, you either have to game over (Mega Man 2) or choose between farming and game overing (Mega Man 4)
VTuber: *mentions what they don’t like about X*
Author/Creator/Designer/etc of X: “I heard that you were talking shit”
That smooth transition to things she liked, well done Korone !
'Talks shit about thing, guy who made the thing turns up' is my favourite genre of internet interaction
MegaMan 3 had an absolutely LEGENDARY soundtrack
I unironically listen to it as a standalone album
Yeah. It is just a classic with sl many masterpieces.
1:51
We really just got our doggo saying "This is Fine" while in a firy situation.
She's just missing the coffee sip.
Getting mad at one's self.
Definitely a must have for a good gamer
1:55 it was very funny way and sound korone make when she drag the annoyances list to the left.
Haha, reminds me of the Hudson guys appearing in her Bobobo stream. 😂
Hitoshi Ariga?! Beedrill mega's papa?!!
Cuando Fubuki invito a okayu a formar parte de HoloGamers y Okayu le pidió que contratasen a Korone, estoy seguro que no esperaban este crecimiento, me alegra ver lo lejos que a llegado las GoDoog
Nothing to worry about, even Hitosi-san would find annoying the things Korone complains to. The NES Mega Man games were very hard.
And MM3 is notorious even among the devs for being an irritating, half-finished mess.
@@NEETKitten You're absolutely right. Mega Man 3 is a nightmare, I only have finish it using an emulator with savestates... Shame on me 😅
lol that's why we called cough in 4k XD
She even got influenced by the designer's presence and started praising the design of the enemies . It's like it's her way of apologizing
1:17 In what world is that pink 🤣
The only thing that really frustrated me in Mega Man III is how jank Top Spin is.
For me, the main thing that annoys me about Megaman 3 are the Doc Robot levels. You redo 4 of the stages that you *_just_* cleared but they're a little harder (with not that many checkpoints either), the bosses themselves are bit *too* ridiculous, it's harder to judge stuff like the Leaf Shield or Metal Blades, they move so fast and they can easily kill you if you're not careful enough. And the worst part? You fight two of these guys in each stage. Granted, it *_is_* cool to see all of the Robot Masters from Megaman 2. But this is all just unneccessary padding to me. I never look forward to playing these stages anytime I play Megaman 3.
someone got"summoned"by the dog god
You can tell she just finished playing a Megaman game because the first thing Korone does is make a list of what was painfully frustrating
Korone's breaking bread with every Japanese gaming company now?
Tbh classic mega man can be really hard but you can cheese MM2 with the metal blade, and MM3 with the shuriken, it's the most fun I've ever had with a classic run and gun platformer
Sasuga Doggo-chan
5. *Captain America meme*
cute korone. nice ariga appearance.
I wonder if Korone could give ideas for future megaman 12
devin chat
Art designer, and he wasn't doing any contract work for Capcom when 3 was made. He's just a devoted fan of the IP and likes to follow and retweet people streaming them. He did not do any game art work for Rockman until Rockman and Forte, doing the boxart and designing Burnerman and Dynamoman. Across the 90s he drew multiple manga adaptations, but his most standout and impactful were Rockman MegaMix and Rockman GigaMix. The funnier part is he's Yuzo Koshiro's brother-in-law, considering Yuzo's already kind of a fan of Korone.
based doggo
Oh nyo
Well Mega Man 3 does have quiet a few issues.
Calling Ariga a Megaman designer while not *technically* wrong is a little misleading, he did design 2 bosses for Rockman & Forte, but that was a special exception as most of that games' main bosses were designed by Rockman manga artists
I didn't know that Rockman & Forte's bosses were designed by several mangakas. I know some that design later when to become mangakas (like the guy that went to make Eyeshield 21 and make the illustrations for One-Punch Man), as Capcom was having those contest in which fans send their ideas for bosses. That's a pretty cool trivia piece, thanks; do you happen to know who designed King? I like that character.
@@edgarlozada3858 Yeah, Rockman & Forte was a game made as kind of a celebration for fans, so they decided to have all the of the new Robot Masters be designed by manga artists who had worked on Rockman manga before, Hitoshi Ariga (who did Rockman Megamix and later Gigamix) designed Burnerman and Dyanoman, Yoshihiro Iwamoto (who did the Rockman X1-X4 mangas) designed Groundman and Magicman, and Koji Izuki (who did the Rockman 8 and R&F mangas) designed Pirateman and Coldman.
As for King, I'm not sure if they ever said exactly who was responsible for him, I'm afraid :(
...of which he is one of. He did Megamix and Gigamix, the first Rockman X Mega Missions manga, a Rockman 4-koma collection, and a few more.
@@DarkYamatoman It almost feel like a celebration to the mangakas. And boy I had no idea Rockman X had a manga that followed the OG continuity. I though it was it's on plot, I guess I'll have to look into that. I suppose King coulda been designed by one of the mangakas you mentioned, or maybe I'll just search it later. Thanks for all this info.
Cute dog!
where this gets wild is: Hitoshi Ariga used to work for Ancient Co as an art designer back in 1992-1993. which means that for a short while, he and Yuzo Koshiro were co-workers
They're brothers-in-law. Hitoshi Ariga's married to Yuzo Koshiro's sister Ayano. Ayano also works at Ancient Corp as an illustrator and art designer- the Koshiro family founded the company.
To be fair, Mega Man 3 is REALLY annoying, and this is coming from someone who's beaten Mega Man 1 twice
MM3 is considerable easier and has better lvl desing than MM2 and MM1
@@bigdoggo5827 Tell that to those goddamn cloud platforms in Snake Man's stage.
It *was* Snake Man that I'm thinking of, right?
Dev in chat?!
Wow her silly writing is not easy to translate, great job getting all that!
Smooth 😝
lol
Hahahahahaha
LOL "the background music is good though" is code for "this game is dog shit and I'm trying to find literally anything positive to say about this waste of time because it just sounds like I'm being too negative.". At least that's how it is for me playing games.
Do you even know what mega man is? It is the definition of a run and gun platformer, it literally created that style.
@@bigdoggo5827 stop asking stupid questions.
It'll be fine, not like they make Mega Man games anymore.