These Pastors Are NOT Evil, But ARE DECEIVED…

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  • These Pastors Are Not Evil, Just DECEIVED…

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  • @lionoffireraw
    @lionoffireraw  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

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  • @CandidConversationswithKrista
    @CandidConversationswithKrista 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    As you were speaking I felt in my spirit, that God allows people to be deceived or believe certain things, to serve his purposes. Sometimes that is hard for people to comprehend. I'm in total agreement that it is essential to call out any falsifies, that go against biblical truths.

    • @Metamorphfitness-cj8wn
      @Metamorphfitness-cj8wn 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Interesting you should say this...there is a verse in the bible that says people shall be deceived by the multitude of their idols, signifying that we open ourselves to deception by desiring idols in our hearts. The deception is a test of honesty and desire to serve God by rejecting the idols we have, if we desire the idols more then we fail the test, however we can rise again in repentance and start over by God's grace.

  • @user-es2xn2pc2t
    @user-es2xn2pc2t 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I totally agree with everything you've said. I have been through trauma, and rejection being part of the church system. I cannot be part of it any longer. I found the truth by reading God's Word and I am now free. The Lord bless you.

  • @richardholappajr.6184
    @richardholappajr.6184 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Thank you, Matthew! You made a great point, a preacher (or anyone) can be sincerely incorrect and lead the flock in the wrong direction.

    • @maranathamaranatha832
      @maranathamaranatha832 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Richard : Amen ! Exactly ! A preacher can be sincerely wrong! The problem, serious in my opinion, is when this pastor sincerely teaches his error to thousands of equally sincere Christians who sincerely trust this preacher! There, it becomes very dangerous. Can the Lord let this kind of dangerous situation happen? be blessed

  • @dxviolin5063
    @dxviolin5063 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Don’t trust in preachers. Trust in Jesus!!!
    Edit:
    Pastors can be helpful and they are to plant seeds and water them. However, it is God that is responsible for our growth(1st Corinthians Chapter 3 Verses 6-7). Pastors can be a good influence to our faith, but we shouldn’t bet on them 100 percent. The only one we can trust 100 percent is Jesus Christ.

    • @dianemoore8289
      @dianemoore8289 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      EXACTLY!!! The only One you can trust 100% ! 😃

    • @luciaimparato9390
      @luciaimparato9390 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Amen to that!

    • @Metamorphfitness-cj8wn
      @Metamorphfitness-cj8wn 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's not biblical, God put pastors, teachers etc in the church, they are needed but be tested.

    • @dianemoore8289
      @dianemoore8289 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@Metamorphfitness-cj8wn
      ✝️ 2Corinthians 11:13-15 - For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
      And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
      It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

    • @dxviolin5063
      @dxviolin5063 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Metamorphfitness-cj8wn I get your point and my statement might have been a little bit too extreme. Pastors can be helpful and they are to plant seeds and water them. However, it is God that is responsible for our growth(1st Corinthians Chapter 3 Verses 6-7). Pastors can be a good influence to our faith, but we shouldn’t bet on them 100 percent. The only one we can trust 100 percent is Jesus Christ.

  • @SpaceCadet4Jesus
    @SpaceCadet4Jesus 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    And a fourth type, typified by Solid Rock's JP. Miller in South Carolina.
    A true Wolf in Sheep's clothing.
    RIP Mica Miller. ❤

    • @Ms.noelp453
      @Ms.noelp453 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Truth! I pray for justice for Mica and her loved ones.

    • @daveyboy6985
      @daveyboy6985 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What's his Gospel about?

  • @gradyjohnson7853
    @gradyjohnson7853 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    One of the main things i see with the pastors . And it is glaringly obvious in church history that they start out well, become compromised with sin, and stay in the office. And have people around them who are just as wicked supporting them condoning what they do.

  • @raymaccord7463
    @raymaccord7463 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    In these last days it’s what some people who like 2 Timothy 4 :3 states they will not put up with the wholesome teaching but according it their own desires, they will surround themselves with teachers to have their ears ‘tickled’ . They will turn away from listening to the truth and give attention to false stories. Some do not want to make the changes needed to please our creator so they want to hear only that they are ok with their chosen lifestyle

  • @Cube_Ernator1077
    @Cube_Ernator1077 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Catholicism" was Ruined for me in 2021, when the Bishop and parish priest decided to have a "Cultural Exchange" with a African pagan funeral ceremony. This ceremony include the beheading of a live chicken, inside the church walls.
    I verbally and loudly objected. The assistant priest asked me to leave and the head priest Banned me from that "church". Because I Stood UP for Christ and Stood Against palo mayombe-that's what the assistant priest called this ceremony.
    3 years on, I'm still Banned from that church and STILL waiting for the Letter of Excommunication from the Bishop. The assistant priest told me and my elderly mother are Banned from the entire Diocese?! I, so far, have never received any reply for the Bishop's Office. Despite numerous letters, emails and requests for an audience with the Bishop.
    Respectfully ... "Catholicism" SUCKS. It seems the Church is more concerned with inviting paganism into its walls, rather than saving souls and "getting right with God"
    I'm, Happily Protestant and Will Never go back-the humiliation my mother experienced is unforgivable and both that "Bishop and that so called "priest" need to be Excommunicated and Fired, in my view!

    • @lionoffireraw
      @lionoffireraw  6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sad to hear that!!

    • @Cube_Ernator1077
      @Cube_Ernator1077 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@lionoffireraw Thank you, but on the Plus side ....The Bible reveals Christ to me a lot Clearer, than listening to Homily's, back in that former Church! And .... I like your presentations- your message is clear and precise, may our Lord Bless you!!

  • @andrewdonnell4921
    @andrewdonnell4921 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was at the funeral of my wife's aunt and the clergyman spoke of how good a woman she was and all the rest, Then the wheels started to fall off it when he said jokingly there was one night in the week when she liked to have- it to her self to sit and watch soap opera's, this is not the gossip of the holy spirit BUT spirit of anti Christ, and all the people are taking in by it. They just can't see that they are being blind sided by the Devil 👿.

  • @brianschmidt704
    @brianschmidt704 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is the problem with seeksensitive churches. Instead of preaching the gospel, They preach self-help and they preach.Good feelings.And they preach all about the social gospel and how we need to help others. They leave out the hard things: the cross, Repentance, and the awful reality of hell. This is not doing the people a service.

  • @poe3man394
    @poe3man394 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for Your message Matt. I can see that much clearer now.

  • @Kimberlee-ld9ic
    @Kimberlee-ld9ic 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Morning Matt ❤❤ very well said. So true .

  • @michaelmason1429
    @michaelmason1429 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Matt
    God knows what’s going on and they will be judged.
    Well done Matt 🙏❤️

  • @luciaimparato9390
    @luciaimparato9390 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So true, Matt, thank you so much for this video! Blessings!

  • @victoriaclark4853
    @victoriaclark4853 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good word! I love my pastor but there are times when he speaks some things that are “word of faith”. It’s a fairly large church, not close to a means church, and we’ve only been there 3 1/2 years and don’t know the pastor personally, so I don’t have a voice with him. I have asked the LORD what to do and HIS reply is, for the time being, stay and pray for him. There are Christians who believe anything/everything their pastors say, without checking it against the WORD. So, for now, we stay and pray and wait on HIM to tell us when and where to move. It’s all in HIS timing.

    • @dianemoore8289
      @dianemoore8289 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Victoria, two things:
      One, May I ask what you mean by "Word of Faith " church? I'm so tired of getting it wrong... Do you mean like Kenneth Hagin, and if so, what is wrong about him?
      Two, are you in the USA, because I went to school with a Vicky Clark! 😆

  • @susanalberts776
    @susanalberts776 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amen 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤

  • @seanmick3093
    @seanmick3093 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I trusted in the Lord of Jesus Christ as my personal savior into my heart through faith alone, and not of works, by accepting his free gift of salvation, by his grace on February 16, 1996, each day, I confess sins for process of sanctification, to receive Jesus Christ as your personal savior, please refer to Matthew 10:28, John 3:16-18:36, 5:24, 6:37:47, 10:27-29, 14:6, Acts 2:38, 16:30-31, Luke 15:10, Romans 1:16, 3:23, 4:5, 6:23, 10:9-10:13, Ephesians 2:8-10, and Titus 3:5. God bless the world, and thank you for sharing.

  • @DJBoise
    @DJBoise 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Number 3, is bait and switch.

  • @FishermensCorner
    @FishermensCorner 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's definitely a mixed bag because the definitely know the counter arguments of their denomination... and they are rarely honest about that.

  • @bonitagrindle8313
    @bonitagrindle8313 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Excellent example-car salesman. 😊

    • @lionoffireraw
      @lionoffireraw  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Glad you liked it!

  • @michealmccoy9249
    @michealmccoy9249 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    C3 church , Hillsong church , nations church , fall under this condemnation

  • @Metamorphfitness-cj8wn
    @Metamorphfitness-cj8wn 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was a WoF preacher for years, but i was decieved, i thought it was true, i got saved amongst WoF christians, my heart was truly for God and i would often ask God to show me any error in my life but any anti WoF preachers i checked out were also false teachers of cessionist and calvinism, they were also nasty and elitist so i ignored them. Eventually i read a book by a former WoF teacher who scripturally exposed the errors and was also fair and humble in his approach, he also had a fellow minister who showed how the WoF Departed from the early church fathers such as irenaeus, justin martyr, polycarp. The guys book opened my eyes and i renounced the WoF. I was initially furious about how i was decieved by the WoF and how many years i apparently wasted, i was hurt for a long time but i am over it now and forgiven them. I read my bible without the indoctrination of WoF now and constantly refer to early church disiples such as polycarp, justin martyr, irenaeus, clement and other early disciples before the Roman Catholic church existed.

    • @lionoffireraw
      @lionoffireraw  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Very interesting. Thank you for sharing!! I’m so glad you got out of that. Praise God. Matt 🙏

    • @Metamorphfitness-cj8wn
      @Metamorphfitness-cj8wn 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lionoffireraw Thanks man 👍

    • @dianemoore8289
      @dianemoore8289 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @Metamorphfitness-cj8wn
      I was talking with you about trusting pastors and I saw your comment here and had a question if you don't mind:
      Can you please maybe provide a reference or book about Word of Faith teaching and why it's wrong, because I'm pretty sure I've been indoctrinated with that but I guess I'm not sure... because the teaching was always backed up by scripture, but obviously, people manipulate God's word. 😵‍💫 I just want to get it right for Pete's sake!

    • @Metamorphfitness-cj8wn
      @Metamorphfitness-cj8wn 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@dianemoore8289 hello Diane, yes, the book I read was from Amazon by a guy named Mel Montgomery and his book is called the SEVEN LAWS OF BALANCE. It showed me some of the main errors of the Word of Faith teachings. All the best 👍

    • @Metamorphfitness-cj8wn
      @Metamorphfitness-cj8wn 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@dianemoore8289 By the way, Assemblies of God is a good balanced church in general, some of the WoF teachers came from AoG but got into error as a result of leaving it.

  • @raymondmelanson8145
    @raymondmelanson8145 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Saying these pastors are not evil, just deceived makes you deceiving yourself also and have not simply chosen to be saved, converted redeemed and born again from above in the spiritual Church of Christ. You are still carnal mind in the flesh!!! Because if you had been born again in the spiritual Church of Christ, the Holy Spirit, Christ, would have become your witness that you have been chosen to be saved. Logically speaking, where do you think the Holy Spirit enters and resides in flesh bodies except into our invisible minds? The same mind before He entered anyone, where the human race can learn anything. The same place where He can become our Teacher and not man. At least, you should know it's not my opinion but plainly written in the scriptures! Am I the only one the Holy Spirit entered and resides in my mind after I was chosen to be saved? Of course not. But it certainly feels like it. Because ever since He entered and resides in me, nobody wants to hear me except the person that read the Bible out loud to me back in 1987. Anyway, whoever you are, you are deceiving yourself or been deceived by the fallen into apostasy believer churches who calls themselves Christians for centuries until today!!! ❤️😭

  • @thetruthnothingelse5033
    @thetruthnothingelse5033 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is not even any self proclaimed pastors in christ matt w3:8

    • @lionoffireraw
      @lionoffireraw  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      That verse is talking about abuse of power, not that there are to be no positions of leadership. 1 Tim 3 lays out the qualifications for leaders in a church.

    • @thetruthnothingelse5033
      @thetruthnothingelse5033 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lionoffireraw it is not, thats Christ words, dont alter the meanings of the holy words of the Bible, who are you to do that, you are a false preacher

    • @thetruthnothingelse5033
      @thetruthnothingelse5033 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lionoffireraw read whats written we are all brothers nothing else, its The humble and meak that will inherit The kingdom of God, mot liers and deceivers like you.

    • @lionoffireraw
      @lionoffireraw  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Correct hermeneutics are essential!

    • @thetruthnothingelse5033
      @thetruthnothingelse5033 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lionoffireraw you are a pure lier, those words Matt 23,:8 still stands, who are you to proclamie otherwise? You are satan he always twists The word of God

  • @thetruthnothingelse5033
    @thetruthnothingelse5033 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Doesent that apply to all religions sects Matt 23;8 there is not even any self proclaimed pastors sects in Gods kingdom, they are all gone

    • @davidb1630
      @davidb1630 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What you have quoted has nothing to do with Matthew 23:8.

    • @thetruthnothingelse5033
      @thetruthnothingelse5033 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@davidb1630 and you can tell that please state your out of the Bible authoritys, do you falsly claime the joly gästs? You are a lier deceiver bounded for hell. God cant even lie but you can obviously.

    • @lionoffireraw
      @lionoffireraw  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That verse is talking about abuse of power, not that there are to be no positions of leadership. 1 Tim 3 lays out the qualifications for leaders in a church.

    • @thetruthnothingelse5033
      @thetruthnothingelse5033 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lionoffireraw they are not read whats written, do not alter anything and obey

    • @lionoffireraw
      @lionoffireraw  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Correct hermeneutics are essential!

  • @hogansheroes2793
    @hogansheroes2793 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Works salvation heretic, backloading, double talking, fruit inspecting; devil.

    • @fisherofmen7197
      @fisherofmen7197 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I take it you are calling Matt a heretic? If so, your language is very similar to (some, not all) KJO IFB rhetoric, would I be correct in assuming it?

    • @hogansheroes2793
      @hogansheroes2793 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fisherofmen7197 Free grace.

    • @fisherofmen7197
      @fisherofmen7197 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@hogansheroes2793 Grace is free but Grace always produces fruit and a changed life.

    • @hogansheroes2793
      @hogansheroes2793 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@fisherofmen7197 Backloader!

    • @hogansheroes2793
      @hogansheroes2793 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fisherofmen7197 Backloader!