If you "bug out" without a realistic place to go, a viable way to get there, the means to both defend and sustain yourself along the way, and the ability to support yourself for a minimum of 90 days when you arrive, you are not an evacuee, you are a refugee.
An unwanted refugee without law enforcement to protect you. Everybody keeps forgetting that the people in the country don't want the people from the city in their territory and are usually better shots and have better guns and more ammo.
If you're surrounding situation is so bad you probably won't be able to get to your location. Imagine widespread flooding in every direction. Forest fires earthquakes. It's called Murphy's Law.
it's a f'd if you do, f'd if ya don't situation for most. families will want to escape the chaos of cities. Better to chance it in rural areas than stay in cities that will be immediately overrun by gangs of pillagers
I'm not bugging out. Not leaving my animals behind. I will stand my ground and defend what I have. Where am I suppose to go? And for how long? Trying to survive in unknown territory? Absolutely not leaving my homestead. I will die with honor if I must.
If you are in kalifornia within any metropolis you will not survive. Once the store shelves are empty, organized illegal immigrant gangs will go door to door looking for food and water. You won't be able to withstand by yourself. Your animals are better off running wild
tbh theres so many places in america where you wouldnt really need to "bug out" my old house i grew up at along a river was chocked full of catfish and surrounding forests with lots of fresh water streams you would need a water filter and such also without modern medicine you are really just biding your time living low until a sickness or infection ravishes you. but for the most part you might just be fine LOL i could spend the next ten years at that place in mind care free ripping channel cats out of the river and staring at the stars even the winters there arent enough to kill ya
Well needed message. Plan A: Stay at home (bug in) as long as it is possible and safe. Plan B: Move (bug out) to alternate location (BOL). Plan C: Survive.
Absolutely! So many bug-out bags, bug-out vehicles bug-out gun videos but never a bug-out destination. Then the prepping/hoarding videos with tons of food. My wife and I have prepped for sheltering in place with backup power and fuel. In the event staying in our house is untenable, we have invested in some property just over an hours drive away on a reservoir. Also, planned with some others of like minds to mutually support each other in SHTF situations.
Good discussion. I was a trauma nurse on a brand new post 911 medical team, RMERT-Regional Medical Emergency Response Team, from Illinois that was professionally trained to go to Katrina. But our governor decided to take “his” team instead. Point is we were well prepped and “armed”. I think now the scenario that many people see coming is a future of chaos, riots and pockets of national resistance with violence. Everything is changing, quickly. Time to cowboy up.
The thing I want people to understand is that there are a multitude of good reasons to bug-out. Or at least have a bugout plan as a contingency. Let’s say you chose to bug in. Your area was safe enough to do it. But because of the situation in whatever scenario you are in, emergency responders are nonexistent or overwhelmed. And a wildfire breaks out and starts spreading like crazy. And it’s heading towards you. You might want to have a plan in place for that. Just because you choose to bug in during the initial event, doesn’t mean you won’t have to eventually bug out.
That's my thinking. Even if you stay put, there WILL be a time you need to leave your home. In Minecraft, leaving your home should be considered semi-permanent, as you never know what might happen
@@ChadBoss-qr4hl Right, if you have something like near you, it would be a good idea to bug-out before it happens. A nuclear reactor that is melting down and is exposed to the atmosphere, spreads most of the radiation through dust. Which means that staying inside would be better than being outside. However, you would need to make sure your home AC unit is turned off and that there is no way for outside dust to get into your house. You would also need to have a large supply of food stored inside the house and water, incase the water supply gets contaminated. Iodine tablets are also highly recommended.
Man, I really appreciate your level-headed approach to communal living during disasters. Almost invariably people pull together and help each other out. I've helped neighbors (and not-so-neighbors,) dozens of times during hurricane season.
What I like about this channel is that it is not about buying gucci stuff, but rather about the right approach to problem solving. P.S. and the epidode about need for fitness training a few month ago was absolutely awesome 😂
Well said. As an owner of a large rural parcel, I can assure you that anyone who isn’t either family or invited will be engaged. Going to survive “out in the woods” will absolutely result in despair, disaster, disappointment, and then death. Prep your home, and survive.
"Back in my day we called them Gerald cans" leaving supplies in hidden locations along the way, can help your family travel with less weight, and avoid having to enter areas you would rather avoid for resupply.
The Tactical Tom bug out fantasy sells a lot of kit. Thanks for being the voice of reason in the TH-cam space. We need to engage with the people around us and look out for each other. The people we are going to need the most isn’t the government but our family, friends and neighbors. A small family vs a group of goblins doesn’t end well. Safety in the right numbers.
I'm on the gulf coast in a major city. A community initiative to help get people whole house generators and hurricane supplies would do more good than a bug out bag for me. Great video. Thanks.
Great practical content! This helps hone my plan. I use a situational risk management approach, with muli-tiers to address different situations. I simplified my approach something like what you said: Plan A - Stay (until situation prohibits it.) Plan B - Bug out to a pre-planned, pre-tested location/shelter. Plan C - Be prepared to Create a plan if A and B fail, therefore, learning and practicing fundamental survivor skills is critical. Love the channel!
Living in south florida through hurricanes really teaches you what you actually need to know. I still have a similar checklist to what my mom and I used in 2003. It's more about how to setup your house for success. Make sure you don't have trash and missile hazards outside. Make sure food, water, gas, cooking supplies are in abundance. Make sure batterries are charged. Have candles and such. Have a plan to wash and bathe, and manage trash. Prioritize what you're going to cook, especially when the stuff in the freezer defrosts. Most people's freezers and pantries are full of so much food anyway...use it
Most of us are older and just don’t have the will to run. We all die, old, young, and even babies. If it gets that bad you live until…..it’s your time. The end. The ones who survive will be just plain lucky. The ones who don’t, won’t have to worry anymore.
Great information. I live on the gulf coast of Texas. Stayed home during Harvey in 2017 which was 20 miles from where I live. Our town had a mandatory evacuation with no emergency services available. I chose to stay home. Lessons learned? Needed a generator, fuel and extra gas cans, a 110 window ac unit and a chain saw and of course some food and water. Those items would have made life much more tolerable had I had them. I have them now.
In a disaster situation, if you're in a bad crowd, multiple things have gone way wrong. The right community, usually will pull together, even if in small groups, to support each other. We've been through a few wildfires and found that those who panic because they didn't plan on the daily, panic harder, if not become a burden, or even dangerous, in an emergency.
What kills me is all the Call of Duty kids talking about all the ammo they’re going to carry. I’m sitting there reading it thinking “This kid really thinks he can carry 500 pounds of ammo….”
That’s only 16 mags. If you are going out for supplies that’s one thing, but if you are leaving your residence for another spot and are traveling….bringing more ammo than just enough for two break contacts might be a good idea haha
@@johnjanuary2958 no some of them are literally like “I’m carrying 500 rounds of 12 gauge buckshot, 500 rounds of slug, 1000 rounds of 9mm, 1000 rounds of 5.56….” Which is like 160 pounds of ammo, lol. I exaggerated a bit on the weight for the joke but it’s still more than any backpack would fit and more than anyone could actually carry and still walk.
@@Mr.Brewer83 Not 500 ROUNDS of ammo. 500 POUNDS of ammo. Lol. Slightly exaggerated because I don’t want to do the math but they’re like “500 rounds 12 gauge buck, 500 rounds of 12 gauge slug, 1000 rounds of 9mm, 1000 rounds of 5.56….” It’s like 160 pounds of ammunition lol, which is functionally the same as 500 pounds when you consider your actual ability to carry it.
I think the biggest thing is does a household have enough water? You can get 55 gallon water barrels. Or a palate of water bottles. I’ve got 30 days drinking water. You may also need water to flush your toilets, wash clothes. Have a pool or Jacuzzi? That’s your flushing and washing water. Now food, keeping warm. Most people don’t even have a couple days water. Remember that water in your water heater.
That's what makes having a whole house water collection system so valuable. Not only does it teach you early on to conserve, but it's replenishable too. I know it's not in everyone's capability, but man I sure am glad I went with one 18 years ago when I built my house. Most of my neighbors did too. It really gives peace of mind, protecting it is another strategy.
@@FranklinGray Well since 99.5% of the time it would be a hurricane that I would be dealing with and since there's usually a 2 to 3 day advanced notice before landfall yes I will have plenty of time.. The original poster was talking about storing water and using his pool /jacuzzi. Well I don't have either but I do have 2 bathrooms with tubs in them..... Does that answer your question ?
DO NOT use your toilets. PLUG THEM. If you can, insert a one-way valve in the "out" pipe to the city sewer. THEY WILL BACK UP. If you're low point in any of the system, it will BE IN YOUR HOUSE. YOu gotta go outside. Get a cheap tent. Put a 5 gallon bucket with a kitchen -[sized garbage bag in it, and a "disability" type of toilet seat, the kind on an aluminum frame that looks like a walker. Dump or bury the bags in a nearby plot of land or your own yard if that's the only available. If you use your toilets it will come back to haunt you.
Damn, it’s nice to hear someone speak logically and rationally about the whole “bug out” crap. Way too much BS online about playing fantasy island and Rambo regarding the topic. You definitely hit the nail on the head that 99% of the time, people will be dealing with some type of natural disaster, etc. As far as everything else you said, you’re spot on. More people need to hear this. Well done sir, very well done and keep content like this coming, please.
Your spot on with your advice and assessment, "Why Draw Unnecessary Attention To Yourself", (with goofball behavior)! Be the cool guy, stay calm in the storm. If you live in a city buddy up with all your neighbors and sit tight. Hopefully you can trust those on your right, left, front to rear. It can become a tight 360 for you, and get through whatever comes your way, until order is re-established...
If you have a plan to bug out and shack up with some friends, have enough to not be a liability. If you show up with you, your wife and kid to someone’s house without enough for just yourself, you’re doing that friend a disservice who was actually prepared. But if you have something to contribute it’s that much easier to find a warm, dry place to rest.
GP speaks logic. I took a Guard MP company to Katrina in 2005. Spent a few days in Metarie then up to Baton Rouge to manage DPs. One thing I noticed in the shelters that worked for average families was that they would form Partnerships in groups of about 12 to 20 people to form a small community within the shelter. In this way, they could have sleep schedules and security within their little tribe. Granted, it's tough to know people and make decisions on the fly like that but people just generally use their best judgment and it worked out pretty well.
I keep a "Go bag/Get home bag in my Jeep and a much more comprehensive bag in my house but in SHTF, we ain't going anywhere. That's insanity. We have so much food and supplies here that it would be stupid to stay in the woods. Unless our particular area is directly affected, there is nowhere I'd rather be. It's defensible, comfortable and we have a generator with fuel. My bag is designed to get me home or I carry it camping/hunting or anytime I'm going any further than the closest stores in my area. Food, water, first aid, navigation/communication and tools/pistol and ammo. It can sustain me, my wife and daughter for 24-36 hours. I don't need to carry an arsenal and a Cabelas in my Jeep. Nice talk and a rational take on what many folks definitely need to listen to.
I personally feel that bugging out tends to be more for people in populated area's with a high congestion of society. In a SHTF scenario those locations will run out of supplies quickly, and if I lived in a city area I would have a plan to "bug out". If I bug out of my current location it will be only if it is actually 100% needed. But I do have all my kits and gear ready to go at a moments notice IF that need ever arise. Mentally I already consider us in a SHTF scenario, I just happen to be living in a part of the world where the effects of the SHTF scenario haven't reached us yet.
Well said, and serious questions you need to ask yourself. Absent an imminent disaster in your immediate area that would make it too dangerous to stay, it really seems your best bet is to stay put. If you're in the middle of a big city, maybe a trip to the outskirts might be in order, but otherwise there's so much you can do around your home to make it stable, prepared, and defensible, that it's hard to think leaving is generally a good idea.
“No one will be able to be armed. We’re going to take all the weapons.” -New Orleans Police Superintendent Edwin Compass, 2005 Yes, they did start confiscations, even if they didn’t get far for lack of resources.
I feel like Katrena is a good baseline for building a kit and prepping in general as its an example of a situation getting about as bad as it gets without a wider scale breakdown (I.E. help isn't ever going to come) If you have enough supplies and gear on hand to survive through or get yourself out of a katrena level event you are both more prepared than 99% of the population and capable of surviving 99.9999999% of situations. At anything above that level it becomes an entirely different conversation as you have to start talking about surviving in a self sustaining way long term and that's something else entirely from what is needed to survive the initial situation as long term survival basically takes a village.
Very much agree on almost everything. This is a much more reasonable and realistic take on real world likely emergencies. The only thing I take a bit of issue with is asking why your car is broken down and what did you fail to do to end up with a broken down vehicle. I do nearly every repair on my vehicle myself because repair shops are expensive. I drive an old vehicle because that is what I can afford. Things break, stuff goes wrong that I can’t foresee. I would say instead of “why didn’t you maintain your vehicle?” I would say keep a decent tool kit with some common spare parts in your vehicle at all times. Just something to think about. Safe travels partner.
Always like your shows and common sense advice. I had wandered if the area your usual in had been logged, or if the blite that effects pines had hit or just how it is there. Noticing stumps and tree size. But Guess wild fire hit from what you said. (Yeah I notice strange things. I just call it situation awareness, lol)
Single, 50, raising 3 kids, everything has to be budgeted in. For awhile wanting body armor. Sparta has a package deal for 200. Wandering if it's worth it to do, or if I'm just falling into the whole thing you're talking about.
@@markfox7135 It might be good to have if you had to leave a bug - in location to get food, fuel or other things depending on how lawless it is. Also if part of a community to "man the barricades so to speak" as a rotation of duties.
Great advice, I had thought about this scenario before too and come to the conclusion just as you mentioned in this video. Best to plan ahead for all types of disasterous scenarios but mainly just keep you and your family safe. Stay informed and plan the next move as the situation develops.
That sounds pretty ideal for about any natural disaster, but what if the problem is a large force of heavily armed humans? Your choice becomes fight to the death, or be somewhere else.
@@seanedwards6169 A property with sufficient self reliance is more like a leatherman tool, it gives you good options. I am in a similar situation, have a house in the city and a house on the countryside in a 4 hour village. During initial stages of covid (when people got bricked in in China) I send my family to the house outside of town, stocked up on supplies before the mines started and stayed in town myself to work. When lock downs started I could work remotely and was there as well. Turned out all not that bad, but was a great dry run. If the Russians come and hear in Poland that could of course happen, we will keep weighing our options. If the battlefield would stagnate in our area that would royaly suck, but community is key. I have like minded individuals and family who know that during such times they can come to me and vice versa. Would that suck, yes. Are we prepared to flee with only a car or backpack full of goods? Yes. But if that happens it really is the worst of the worst crisis and I might want to go to Argentina 😅
@@seanedwards6169 Home base is an excellent situation, appropriate measures can be made to discourage all but the most determined, those you exercise extreme prejudice with..
Get home bag for sure. Bug out bag? I’m in total agreement with you Randall.I can’t haul all my shit in a backpack. Riding out hurricanes here in coastal Alabama has been an excellent way to figure out what you need in a SHTF situation.
I'm from NOLA my folks fled a few days before Katrina...I watched it unfold while on an exercise of sorts. They had to drive 18hrs...just to get to Montgomery. 2x 7-passenger vans were packed up, with necessities (including family memorabilia and documents) and extra gas cans. Bc all cell towers were down, I had no way to keep in touch with them for several days after the event. It's a coin toss for environmental reasons. People are the "wild cards", though. Loss of water and power in a city is a bad combo. I was out of the Navy during Ida...9 days without power was not fun, when I moved back home. I-10 had no street lights.
Woke up from my wanting to be a bug out rambo recently. Having home preps, security, and a plan to move pre-prepared bins into a vehicle is a far better place to start especially with a family and pets than putting all that effort and money in a one man bug out pack w/ plate carrier ect..
People either have the skills to adapt and survive, or they don't and even if you do, when chaos happens there's nothing fare about who makes it and who doesn't. Hope for the best, plan for the worst, and hopefully the worst is less than your dream.
Just found your channel last wk and absolutely loving your content. This video was spot on and practical. People get lost in the tv and youtube fantasy world of bugging out but dont realize what that truly means or the implications of it. Definitely solid advice here, also btw i been looking for a magnifier for my romeo 5 and i saw your tacticon video and how theirs lined up good with it, appreciate the info by chance!
I've been in third world and developing countries. The worst was Sri Lanka...no gas, rolling blackouts, pharmacy shortages and civil unrest. To get off the X there was only one option...check into the most expensive hotel I could find. Why? 24 hr security, buffets, gym and power. Waited 1 week to exfil back to the usa. It can get hostile in America if SHTF.
I've gotten deep into an ebike as my urban escape vehicle. With 2 years and 3k miles of testing, I've learned all the trails and hidden locations aroundmy area. It's entirely possible to get 20 miles outside the city on short notice with 150 liters of gear.
I live off grid in the Australian bush in a bell tent. Have solar, rainwater, greenhouse with vegetables, a backup supply of food with basic camping equipment, a woodstove and a generator. The biggest threat here is bushfires, its ultra dry here and the camp is all wood and canvas. My bugout evacuation emergency is put a few backpacks of gear in my car and go car camping at the beach or families place until the fire is over. Thanks
Great concepts in this video. If you fail to plan then you have planned to fail. Be responsible for your self and family. Have your own family plan and practice or review it once or twice a year. Your plan should have a get home bag before a bug out bag. Also the home bug in plan should have car boxes to bug out or packs to bug out. A good plan will know when to exit usually before the event happens. Katrina was the classic government leaders who failed to plan decades before the event. Keep up the great videos.
I use the term “get home bag” rather than bug out. No need to leave unless there’s serious action headed your way and good situational awareness will give you time to handle that.
Great video. It bears importance to think of bugging out not as a go to when the worst of the worst happens but when it’s a death sentence to stay. If you were a Jew living in Poland in 1939 with the German advance heading straight for you, forget your job, home etc and leave. Expeditiously. Likewise, you can have the most gung ho survivalist homestead but if you managed to build it in the red forest in 1985, when 1986 rolls around and that Geiger counter starts ticking, leave it all. Know when It’s better to stay put and know when you absolutely need to leave. In the right context, either bugging in or out, both can get you killed.
My urban experience has taught me to get off the X & travel lite. Was in Colombo Sri Lanka last year...rolling blackouts, pharmacy shortages, no gas and massive civil unrest happened. My safe house was getting into a 5 star hotel....24hr security, buffets, pool/gym. I waited 1 week before flying out. I had to ditch my sensitive items before passing thru a metal detection unit. Food for thought.
Wise man once said, "Don't be where the problem is". If you have to think about a hasty exfil, you may want to consider a Strategic Relocation that will enable you less worry of bad people doing bad things. Not my original idea, but I'm very fortunate that my career path has lead me away from the cities into more rural settings. Still working on getting a homestead, but at least i'm in a quiet town. Also, make friends with your sheriff's and local PD. All advice is Sponsored by Bear Independant, Refuge Medical, Kaleb House and Grindstone Ministries. Cheers, Guys!
I agree however lots of people don't live in rural areas or don't even have property to defend. If you live in a dense area sometime bugging out is your best choice. Sometimes anywhere but there is your best option. Moving to a more secure location would be the best preparation but under those circumstances having a secondary location fam/friend and having a bug out bag to get there would come far before moving as that's not an easy task Specifically thinking about a dangerous scenario where you couldn't use a car. Like riots, loss of power, invasion. Some think it's unrealistic but I think it's wise to hope for the best while preparing for the absolute worst
I just have a camping bag. It's the one I actually use for camping, and I figure if it'll last me 3-4 days in the woods, it'll do fine if my home becomes unsafe and I need to leave. It has all the basics for survival, and a bit more such as a water filter, tent, sleeping bag, stove, rain gear, hygiene, spare skivvies, etc. The same stuff you'd need anywhere. Even emergency shelters often don't have beds and people have to stay in tents, same with sleeping bags, or even clean water. For those kinds of things, you only really need one bag for multiple people, except for extra sleeping bags or blankets, and rain gear. I've got extra rain gear in the vehicle, and we can always grab extra blankets and clothes on the way out the door. It's not a perfect system, but I don't think there's any such thing, and it has the essentials. All the fam needs to do is pack some clothes and blankets, and whatever else they think they need. Our only rule is in an emergency, you only grab what you can pack and carry in less than 5 minutes. We've had to do this twice, both weather related.
Having grown up in a hurricane and flood prone area, I've tried to explain this to people time and time again. If you do need to leave home due to floods/hurricanes/fires/etc: 1) Have stuff staged to thrown in your car. 2) Keep that car in good working order. 3) Keep the gas tank as full as possible. 4) Get out before it gets too bad. 5) Have a predetermined and realistic destination. 6) Be sure any people already there know that you are coming. 7) Bring supplies like food and toiletries, not tactical gear, so you aren't a burden on your hosts. If you live someplace like NYC and don't own a car, then maybe hoofing it might make sense. Rules 4-7 still apply though or you will eventually end up in a place like the Superdome.
Looking at that lower and mag in the hole puncher you have I’d say it’s 7.62? Excellent choice! What part of gulf coast are you from? I’m central MS…..
I agree prepare don’t over prepare if you do have stash spots for spares… small palm size flash lights break apart rifles small first aid pack foldable puffy jackets one xtra pair socks etc be smart pack light🎉
Method, Purpose, End-State... There are situations when you want to run (Chernobyl, Katrina, Fukishima, Love Canal, East Palestine...) and others where you want to hunker down. Some cases you want a bugout bag with the 'cool stuff'; others where you want a packed suitcase with clothes, your electronic data, photographs/videos, reward cards, and cash. Skills, knowledge, family, and a strong social network are more valuable than a lot of gear.
So many people saying they are planning to go live in the woods but then asking what they need to take with them......umm you are not going anywhere if you have to ask what to take....gotta love these types of videos that really bring up what the vast majority of people need to think about....sure there is decent sized run and gun community out there but for the average citizen this should be their go to video on what to do 🍻
I think people tend to pessimistic about metro communities during hard times. Most historical examination (London Bombing during WWII being one example) indicate that the natural tendency for people is to bond together during times of hardship, form communities, and act collectively for survival. In a bad case scenario the outlook isn’t good for individualists. Have a team and thrive.
I'm staying on my 10 acres here deep in the Arkansas Ozarks. I have a food supply, water supply, security system that doesn't need a power supply and they are my two Belgian's. Oh and their food and water is stored up as well. I didn't spend 23 years in the ARMY for nothing. NSDQ!!!!
Bug Out bags makes perfect sense for all of us living in the city. A bag of survival gear and ammunition is waaaay better than nothing at all. Please don't discourage people. For you living way up in the woods a Bug Out bag isn't your biggest priority, but for everyone else trying to escape a crisis it's the difference between life and death. Some of you may laugh at what I'm saying, but I always say 'better safe than sorry'!
I agree with nick and some of your points as well… however if things are bad people who are already established outside of major cities will not take kindly to city folk coming up there way. Like someone said earlier at that point most the people leaving the city are going to be panicked “refugees” a majority without a plan create a dangerous majority to worry about you then have a society with a whole lot more wolves created in society out of desperation.
Watching this from rural England. Problem here is that it's just moorland/tundra up here and the bits that arent are just very mountainous farmland with a few pine and swampy trees. Very cold, wet, humid and extremely windy.
Imho a get home bag is far more important than a bug out bag. You should be able to hunker down, or travel on foot for 2-3 days if the roads are impassable.
100%. I have always wondered what people are actually preparing for. Live 20 miles from GOM. My generators I have used quite a bit as well as window units and all my flashlights. My body armor...well got it but have never actually needed it. BTW flashlights are extremely useful after a hurricane. I had 5 after Ida. Had to get 5 more because they all got used/broke/ misplaced.
Brother you nailed this... I have one homestead.. soon moving to a newly build one completely off grid.. and yes if you bail or bug out.. you are simply a glorified refugee
Most important items for an emergency go-to bag: extra clothing, prescription medical items, certified copies of important documents. Usually at the emergency shelter they will have food and water and basics. Otherwise, if you can stay safe at home, just stay there.
I live on the border of a national forest. On a ridge with one main road. If the internet goes out for a long time and I quit hearing cars, I’m dropping a gang of trees at each intersection leading to the main road, Contingency, if we had to leave there is a national trail within 5 miles. That trail will be our home highway until we find a better place. Only plans I have
One of the first things they say they will do is completely restrict travel so there aint gonna be no bugging out, a LOT of people will find out the hard way when they are stuck on the road with thousands of unprepared people
Thank you for giving some sound reasonable thoughts on this matter.... Too many fantasies out there.... Oh and NoLa was the only place in La that any guns were taken away from residents, I was 30 miles away and active in rescue operations .....
i live in the suburbs just out side of a north east city, the plan is to shelter in place depending on the situation. If the shtf is bad enough we will bug out to the family farm a couple hours away. Situational awareness is key
First reason I would potentially bug out is I am in the suburbs close to SF Bay Area. If things went really bad, the mobs would head our way because we live in closer proximity to farms, animals, fishing, etc. there’s just too many people to contend with. 2nd reason, though even less likely, would be FEMA rounding people up after a disaster of some sort. I’d defend as long as possible until safety became a real concern.
Thank you for posing this question. This is not First Blood, it's the real world. Ok so something happens, I run to the woods, now I'm out there looking dumb with a bunch of gear. Now what??? Just a rhetorical question to spark interest in alternatives that, though they may not be trendy, are viable and in some cases better.
Couple of points, and agree overall with the message. For natural disasters and events that aren't completely WROL or long term collapse of grid on large scale, yes, not being kitted out, great idea, otherwise, utilizing a small chest rig or plate carrier you can wear under like a flannel/jacket/coat/zip up lightweight hoodie would be better. Also, guns were definitely taken in Katrina, this was confirmed by personnel in service there, at the time, with no reason to lie, as they teared up telling me. Have a great weekend sir.
I made a get home bag /shelter in place for my daughter who went to college. First aid, water purifier, noaa radio, pre programed hand held ham with notes for what channel is for what stuff like that
A middle road is possible. Our house is visible from the road but we got a barn out back that's not. If there's a grid down situation our plan is to go out back so we're not sitting pretty with our lights on and ac running , giving people the idea we might have something worth taking
A good example was during covid. The back roads and forest service roads in NE Washington became loaded with cars, pickups, campers, winnebago's etc. from the populous metro area. I went up one road and there were maybe 15 vehicles off to the side of the road in just a few miles. People were tresspassing and building 'campsites' in woods just off the road. I saw a guy fishing in a creek you could step across. A local gas station ran out of snacks and anything edible in about 3 days. My friend talked to people who said they'd survive in the remote areas until covid passed over so they wouldn't catch it. Two weeks later they were largely gone. Very weird...
A) I live in a highly populated area B) I'm going to a highly Isolated Cathusian monastery near a lake. Cathusian monks won't care because they're not being interrupted. And the lake offers fresh water and fish.
Glad someone is saying what I've been thinking too! Like I'm really going to leave everything I've worked for to be looted? Let alone leave behind valuable supplies and tools I WILL need versus running around (where?) with a gun I most likely won't need. If I did end leaving I would take my every day CCW anyway, it'll do the job regardless of circumstances. I do have a BOB mostly ready to go, with a checklist of some items to grab last minute. But that bag also has my hiking and camping gear, so its double duty. I'm not wasting money on a bag to sit around and gather dust. And it's disasters I'm worried about. If there's a tornado alarm the bags will be in the basement already anyway where we shelter. Or the chemical spill in OH. I live a few blocks from a switch yard and who knows what moves through there.
The only reason I have a bug out bag is that I'm located near the port of Houston, and in the case of a nuclear attack from a near peer military, I've figured that major ports are probably first or second tier targets. Thusly a bag for GTFO purposes is nice to have on hand, any other SHTF type scenario our plan is to hunker down.
Having been through natural disasters, where my home was destroyed by an F5 tornado, finding shelter if you have pets is a huge pain in the ass. None of the shelters would allow us to bring our dog with us and said just leaver here outside where is actively storming, Nope, we drove around and finally found a hotel in a rough part of town because that was all that was available. All we had were the clothes on our backs and our beat up vehicles. When it gets really bad you get into survival mode, and deal with what ever comes your way. At that time I was focused on my family, nothing else. Oh and btw, having a detached shed/building etc was useless in that arena. All that was left of my 10x10 shed was the gravel it set on, everything in it was gone including over 1,000 books (we had recently PCS'ed from Germany) and the shed itself. I had a two cars leaing up against my daughters room that I have no idea who they belonged to.
@@amxmachine Wrong, it came with the house and it was wood not tin. Building a "shelter" to withstand an F5 tornado is not happeneing if it above ground. All structures touched by that tornado were damaged some literally left nothing but a foundation. Physics applies regardless of whether you it is a "chinese tin" or wood shed. Wind an debris at speeds well over 200 mph is like sand blasting the face of the earth. In many places there was not even a blade of grass left. I have built in tornado rooms into houses and it is not an easy things, the walls are 12" thinck and have multiple layers of different matieral to reduce penetrations. I can tell you have never had to face death in the face and live to tell about it.
If you "bug out" without a realistic place to go, a viable way to get there, the means to both defend and sustain yourself along the way, and the ability to support yourself for a minimum of 90 days when you arrive, you are not an evacuee, you are a refugee.
Maybe we should call it a refugee bag, for when there's no other option.
@aetius9 Unforeseeable circumstances can absolutely screw up our plans for sure.
An unwanted refugee without law enforcement to protect you. Everybody keeps forgetting that the people in the country don't want the people from the city in their territory and are usually better shots and have better guns and more ammo.
If you're surrounding situation is so bad you probably won't be able to get to your location. Imagine widespread flooding in every direction. Forest fires earthquakes. It's called Murphy's Law.
it's a f'd if you do, f'd if ya don't situation for most. families will want to escape the chaos of cities. Better to chance it in rural areas than stay in cities that will be immediately overrun by gangs of pillagers
When survivals your goal, it's into the spider hole.
@NyetNyetNyet my thoughts exactly, I cringed reading that 💀
@@NyetNyetNyet Speak for Yourself.
@@joshuavargo9047that's how the Vietnamese defeated the Americans
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Sounds gey lol
I'm not bugging out. Not leaving my animals behind. I will stand my ground and defend what I have. Where am I suppose to go? And for how long? Trying to survive in unknown territory? Absolutely not leaving my homestead. I will die with honor if I must.
Sure you will.
Don't blame you there
At least you will have something to eat
If you are in kalifornia within any metropolis you will not survive. Once the store shelves are empty, organized illegal immigrant gangs will go door to door looking for food and water. You won't be able to withstand by yourself. Your animals are better off running wild
Evolution will kill out the ones that care so much about valuable house items our ancestors lived on the basics 😂
tbh theres so many places in america where you wouldnt really need to "bug out" my old house i grew up at along a river was chocked full of catfish and surrounding forests with lots of fresh water streams you would need a water filter and such also without modern medicine you are really just biding your time living low until a sickness or infection ravishes you. but for the most part you might just be fine LOL i could spend the next ten years at that place in mind care free ripping channel cats out of the river and staring at the stars even the winters there arent enough to kill ya
Well needed message. Plan A: Stay at home (bug in) as long as it is possible and safe. Plan B: Move (bug out) to alternate location (BOL). Plan C: Survive.
Absolutely! So many bug-out bags, bug-out vehicles bug-out gun videos but never a bug-out destination. Then the prepping/hoarding videos with tons of food. My wife and I have prepped for sheltering in place with backup power and fuel. In the event staying in our house is untenable, we have invested in some property just over an hours drive away on a reservoir. Also, planned with some others of like minds to mutually support each other in SHTF situations.
@@Ray_KorenI agree OP should already be up there within the first 48-72hrs
Good discussion. I was a trauma nurse on a brand new post 911 medical team, RMERT-Regional Medical Emergency Response Team, from Illinois that was professionally trained to go to Katrina. But our governor decided to take “his” team instead. Point is we were well prepped and “armed”. I think now the scenario that many people see coming is a future of chaos, riots and pockets of national resistance with violence. Everything is changing, quickly. Time to cowboy up.
yeah natural anything is the least of my concerns moving forward.. stay vigilant!
The thing I want people to understand is that there are a multitude of good reasons to bug-out. Or at least have a bugout plan as a contingency. Let’s say you chose to bug in. Your area was safe enough to do it. But because of the situation in whatever scenario you are in, emergency responders are nonexistent or overwhelmed. And a wildfire breaks out and starts spreading like crazy. And it’s heading towards you. You might want to have a plan in place for that.
Just because you choose to bug in during the initial event, doesn’t mean you won’t have to eventually bug out.
That's my thinking. Even if you stay put, there WILL be a time you need to leave your home. In Minecraft, leaving your home should be considered semi-permanent, as you never know what might happen
We live 45 min away from a nuclear plant. If that thing blows, are we staying put ?
@@patriciafrazier8739 Staying put wouldn’t be wise lol.
@@ChadBoss-qr4hl Right, if you have something like near you, it would be a good idea to bug-out before it happens. A nuclear reactor that is melting down and is exposed to the atmosphere, spreads most of the radiation through dust. Which means that staying inside would be better than being outside. However, you would need to make sure your home AC unit is turned off and that there is no way for outside dust to get into your house. You would also need to have a large supply of food stored inside the house and water, incase the water supply gets contaminated.
Iodine tablets are also highly recommended.
@patriciafrazier8739 if you survive the initial melt down of the radiation leak you might have a chance if it blows rest your soul
Man, I really appreciate your level-headed approach to communal living during disasters. Almost invariably people pull together and help each other out. I've helped neighbors (and not-so-neighbors,) dozens of times during hurricane season.
What I like about this channel is that it is not about buying gucci stuff, but rather about the right approach to problem solving.
P.S. and the epidode about need for fitness training a few month ago was absolutely awesome 😂
Well said. As an owner of a large rural parcel, I can assure you that anyone who isn’t either family or invited will be engaged. Going to survive “out in the woods” will absolutely result in despair, disaster, disappointment, and then death. Prep your home, and survive.
"Back in my day we called them Gerald cans" leaving supplies in hidden locations along the way, can help your family travel with less weight, and avoid having to enter areas you would rather avoid for resupply.
Yep as kids we did this but that was the 70s an 80s but it was food an so on so we would not have to go home an such lmao
This doesn't make any sense.. unless you're talking walking for a week or more before you get to the destination...
The Tactical Tom bug out fantasy sells a lot of kit. Thanks for being the voice of reason in the TH-cam space. We need to engage with the people around us and look out for each other. The people we are going to need the most isn’t the government but our family, friends and neighbors. A small family vs a group of goblins doesn’t end well. Safety in the right numbers.
I'm on the gulf coast in a major city. A community initiative to help get people whole house generators and hurricane supplies would do more good than a bug out bag for me. Great video. Thanks.
Probably the best and most level headed presentation I have ever watched. Take notice of this MAN people. He tells it like it is. Well done Mate. 👍
Great practical content! This helps hone my plan.
I use a situational risk management approach, with muli-tiers to address different situations. I simplified my approach something like what you said: Plan A - Stay (until situation prohibits it.)
Plan B - Bug out to a pre-planned, pre-tested location/shelter.
Plan C - Be prepared to Create a plan if A and B fail, therefore, learning and practicing fundamental survivor skills is critical.
Love the channel!
Living in south florida through hurricanes really teaches you what you actually need to know. I still have a similar checklist to what my mom and I used in 2003.
It's more about how to setup your house for success. Make sure you don't have trash and missile hazards outside. Make sure food, water, gas, cooking supplies are in abundance. Make sure batterries are charged. Have candles and such. Have a plan to wash and bathe, and manage trash. Prioritize what you're going to cook, especially when the stuff in the freezer defrosts.
Most people's freezers and pantries are full of so much food anyway...use it
Most of us are older and just don’t have the will to run. We all die, old, young, and even babies. If it gets that bad you live until…..it’s your time. The end. The ones who survive will be just plain lucky. The ones who don’t, won’t have to worry anymore.
Great information. I live on the gulf coast of Texas. Stayed home during Harvey in 2017 which was 20 miles from where I live. Our town had a mandatory evacuation with no emergency services available. I chose to stay home. Lessons learned? Needed a generator, fuel and extra gas cans, a 110 window ac unit and a chain saw and of course some food and water. Those items would have made life much more tolerable had I had them. I have them now.
Bugging out is only a good option if your house burns down or something similar happens.
And that can quite easily happen
In a disaster situation, if you're in a bad crowd, multiple things have gone way wrong. The right community, usually will pull together, even if in small groups, to support each other.
We've been through a few wildfires and found that those who panic because they didn't plan on the daily, panic harder, if not become a burden, or even dangerous, in an emergency.
What kills me is all the Call of Duty kids talking about all the ammo they’re going to carry. I’m sitting there reading it thinking “This kid really thinks he can carry 500 pounds of ammo….”
That’s only 16 mags. If you are going out for supplies that’s one thing, but if you are leaving your residence for another spot and are traveling….bringing more ammo than just enough for two break contacts might be a good idea haha
@@johnjanuary2958 no some of them are literally like “I’m carrying 500 rounds of 12 gauge buckshot, 500 rounds of slug, 1000 rounds of 9mm, 1000 rounds of 5.56….” Which is like 160 pounds of ammo, lol.
I exaggerated a bit on the weight for the joke but it’s still more than any backpack would fit and more than anyone could actually carry and still walk.
@@Mr.Brewer83 Not 500 ROUNDS of ammo. 500 POUNDS of ammo. Lol. Slightly exaggerated because I don’t want to do the math but they’re like “500 rounds 12 gauge buck, 500 rounds of 12 gauge slug, 1000 rounds of 9mm, 1000 rounds of 5.56….”
It’s like 160 pounds of ammunition lol, which is functionally the same as 500 pounds when you consider your actual ability to carry it.
@@ThatGuy182545 My apologies I read it as 500 rounds....yeah 500 pounds might be a weeeee much on the old back LOLOL
@@Mr.Brewer83 Cmon man, you don't have a tactical mule in your preps :D.
I think the biggest thing is does a household have enough water? You can get 55 gallon water barrels. Or a palate of water bottles. I’ve got 30 days drinking water. You may also need water to flush your toilets, wash clothes. Have a pool or Jacuzzi? That’s your flushing and washing water. Now food, keeping warm. Most people don’t even have a couple days water. Remember that water in your water heater.
We've always designed the bathtub for toilet water, since it's in the same room, generally, it saves having to carry 5 gal buckets around the house
That's what makes having a whole house water collection system so valuable. Not only does it teach you early on to conserve, but it's replenishable too. I know it's not in everyone's capability, but man I sure am glad I went with one 18 years ago when I built my house. Most of my neighbors did too. It really gives peace of mind, protecting it is another strategy.
@@thatkajunguy8029 Are you going to have advanced notice to fill your tub?
@@FranklinGray
Well since 99.5% of the time it would be a hurricane that I would be dealing with and since there's usually a 2 to 3 day advanced notice before landfall yes I will have plenty of time.. The original poster was talking about storing water and using his pool /jacuzzi. Well I don't have either but I do have 2 bathrooms with tubs in them..... Does that answer your question ?
DO NOT use your toilets. PLUG THEM. If you can, insert a one-way valve in the "out" pipe to the city sewer. THEY WILL BACK UP. If you're low point in any of the system, it will BE IN YOUR HOUSE.
YOu gotta go outside. Get a cheap tent. Put a 5 gallon bucket with a kitchen -[sized garbage bag in it, and a "disability" type of toilet seat, the kind on an aluminum frame that looks like a walker. Dump or bury the bags in a nearby plot of land or your own yard if that's the only available.
If you use your toilets it will come back to haunt you.
Damn, it’s nice to hear someone speak logically and rationally about the whole “bug out” crap. Way too much BS online about playing fantasy island and Rambo regarding the topic.
You definitely hit the nail on the head that 99% of the time, people will be dealing with some type of natural disaster, etc.
As far as everything else you said, you’re spot on. More people need to hear this.
Well done sir, very well done and keep content like this coming, please.
Your spot on with your advice and assessment, "Why Draw Unnecessary Attention To Yourself",
(with goofball behavior)!
Be the cool guy, stay calm in the storm. If you live in a city buddy up with all your neighbors and sit tight. Hopefully you can trust those on your right, left, front to rear.
It can become a tight 360 for you, and get through whatever comes your way, until order is re-established...
I will probably last 20 minutes staying at my house in shtf scenario but it will be a fun 20 minutes 🤟🤟
It won't be a fun 20 minutes for you at all. Especially the 19 minute mark
@@ytty5183 😂🤣
@@gw5436yup, but some of us can't move out of the cities. Let's be realistic.
If you have a plan to bug out and shack up with some friends, have enough to not be a liability. If you show up with you, your wife and kid to someone’s house without enough for just yourself, you’re doing that friend a disservice who was actually prepared. But if you have something to contribute it’s that much easier to find a warm, dry place to rest.
@@philliposborne5403great point. Liabilities wont last long
BASIC SMARTS MATTER....GOOD TALK BROTHER.
GP speaks logic. I took a Guard MP company to Katrina in 2005. Spent a few days in Metarie then up to Baton Rouge to manage DPs. One thing I noticed in the shelters that worked for average families was that they would form Partnerships in groups of about 12 to 20 people to form a small community within the shelter. In this way, they could have sleep schedules and security within their little tribe. Granted, it's tough to know people and make decisions on the fly like that but people just generally use their best judgment and it worked out pretty well.
I keep a "Go bag/Get home bag in my Jeep and a much more comprehensive bag in my house but in SHTF, we ain't going anywhere. That's insanity. We have so much food and supplies here that it would be stupid to stay in the woods. Unless our particular area is directly affected, there is nowhere I'd rather be. It's defensible, comfortable and we have a generator with fuel. My bag is designed to get me home or I carry it camping/hunting or anytime I'm going any further than the closest stores in my area. Food, water, first aid, navigation/communication and tools/pistol and ammo. It can sustain me, my wife and daughter for 24-36 hours. I don't need to carry an arsenal and a Cabelas in my Jeep. Nice talk and a rational take on what many folks definitely need to listen to.
My home is my castle, there will be no bugging out. The silent majority better find a spine, I have mine.
My gear I carry in my truck is to get to my house and family, and defend what is mine however I see fit✌️
I personally feel that bugging out tends to be more for people in populated area's with a high congestion of society. In a SHTF scenario those locations will run out of supplies quickly, and if I lived in a city area I would have a plan to "bug out". If I bug out of my current location it will be only if it is actually 100% needed. But I do have all my kits and gear ready to go at a moments notice IF that need ever arise. Mentally I already consider us in a SHTF scenario, I just happen to be living in a part of the world where the effects of the SHTF scenario haven't reached us yet.
Hey R., would you please do a video naming the "free states," what that actually means, your favorites and why? Great video. Thanks!
Well said, and serious questions you need to ask yourself. Absent an imminent disaster in your immediate area that would make it too dangerous to stay, it really seems your best bet is to stay put. If you're in the middle of a big city, maybe a trip to the outskirts might be in order, but otherwise there's so much you can do around your home to make it stable, prepared, and defensible, that it's hard to think leaving is generally a good idea.
“No one will be able to be armed. We’re going to take all the weapons.”
-New Orleans Police Superintendent Edwin Compass, 2005
Yes, they did start confiscations, even if they didn’t get far for lack of resources.
I feel like Katrena is a good baseline for building a kit and prepping in general as its an example of a situation getting about as bad as it gets without a wider scale breakdown (I.E. help isn't ever going to come) If you have enough supplies and gear on hand to survive through or get yourself out of a katrena level event you are both more prepared than 99% of the population and capable of surviving 99.9999999% of situations. At anything above that level it becomes an entirely different conversation as you have to start talking about surviving in a self sustaining way long term and that's something else entirely from what is needed to survive the initial situation as long term survival basically takes a village.
Very much agree on almost everything. This is a much more reasonable and realistic take on real world likely emergencies. The only thing I take a bit of issue with is asking why your car is broken down and what did you fail to do to end up with a broken down vehicle. I do nearly every repair on my vehicle myself because repair shops are expensive. I drive an old vehicle because that is what I can afford. Things break, stuff goes wrong that I can’t foresee. I would say instead of “why didn’t you maintain your vehicle?” I would say keep a decent tool kit with some common spare parts in your vehicle at all times. Just something to think about. Safe travels partner.
I don't want to leave my stuff, I'll stick around as long as possible. Some great information.
Always like your shows and common sense advice. I had wandered if the area your usual in had been logged, or if the blite that effects pines had hit or just how it is there. Noticing stumps and tree size. But Guess wild fire hit from what you said. (Yeah I notice strange things. I just call it situation awareness, lol)
Single, 50, raising 3 kids, everything has to be budgeted in. For awhile wanting body armor. Sparta has a package deal for 200. Wandering if it's worth it to do, or if I'm just falling into the whole thing you're talking about.
@@markfox7135 It might be good to have if you had to leave a bug - in location to get food, fuel or other things depending on how lawless it is. Also if part of a community to "man the barricades so to speak" as a rotation of duties.
Great advice, I had thought about this scenario before too and come to the conclusion just as you mentioned in this video. Best to plan ahead for all types of disasterous scenarios but mainly just keep you and your family safe. Stay informed and plan the next move as the situation develops.
Well said brother that's some truth right there!!! We need more common sense like this
What a refreshing, realistic outlook on this topic.
I have 91 acres on well water, stocked 4.5 acre pond and all the things.
That's the dream. Problem is I wasn't born early enough to get the money to get there. Not a good time to be in your 20s
That sounds pretty ideal for about any natural disaster, but what if the problem is a large force of heavily armed humans? Your choice becomes fight to the death, or be somewhere else.
@@seanedwards6169 A property with sufficient self reliance is more like a leatherman tool, it gives you good options. I am in a similar situation, have a house in the city and a house on the countryside in a 4 hour village. During initial stages of covid (when people got bricked in in China) I send my family to the house outside of town, stocked up on supplies before the mines started and stayed in town myself to work. When lock downs started I could work remotely and was there as well. Turned out all not that bad, but was a great dry run. If the Russians come and hear in Poland that could of course happen, we will keep weighing our options. If the battlefield would stagnate in our area that would royaly suck, but community is key. I have like minded individuals and family who know that during such times they can come to me and vice versa. Would that suck, yes. Are we prepared to flee with only a car or backpack full of goods? Yes. But if that happens it really is the worst of the worst crisis and I might want to go to Argentina 😅
@@seanedwards6169
Home base is an excellent situation, appropriate measures can be made to discourage all but the most determined, those you exercise extreme prejudice with..
Sounds like your a perfect target
Get home bag for sure. Bug out bag? I’m in total agreement with you Randall.I can’t haul all my shit in a backpack. Riding out hurricanes here in coastal Alabama has been an excellent way to figure out what you need in a SHTF situation.
I'm from NOLA my folks fled a few days before Katrina...I watched it unfold while on an exercise of sorts. They had to drive 18hrs...just to get to Montgomery. 2x 7-passenger vans were packed up, with necessities (including family memorabilia and documents) and extra gas cans. Bc all cell towers were down, I had no way to keep in touch with them for several days after the event. It's a coin toss for environmental reasons. People are the "wild cards", though. Loss of water and power in a city is a bad combo. I was out of the Navy during Ida...9 days without power was not fun, when I moved back home. I-10 had no street lights.
Cool to see other people from Alabama watching Grunt proof’s channel
@@taylordavis9170 Got to support a Grunt from Gulfport!
@@steveturner3999 I’m from Andalusia
@@taylordavis9170 I'm in Saraland just outside Mobile. Glad to know ya!
This is probably the best preparedness channel out there. Just common sense and a lot of focus on the important stuff 🤘🏻
Woke up from my wanting to be a bug out rambo recently. Having home preps, security, and a plan to move pre-prepared bins into a vehicle is a far better place to start especially with a family and pets than putting all that effort and money in a one man bug out pack w/ plate carrier ect..
The problem with bugging out is knowing what the crisis is you'll need to be equipped for, it's not one size fits all.
People either have the skills to adapt and survive, or they don't and even if you do, when chaos happens there's nothing fare about who makes it and who doesn't. Hope for the best, plan for the worst, and hopefully the worst is less than your dream.
Just found your channel last wk and absolutely loving your content. This video was spot on and practical. People get lost in the tv and youtube fantasy world of bugging out but dont realize what that truly means or the implications of it. Definitely solid advice here, also btw i been looking for a magnifier for my romeo 5 and i saw your tacticon video and how theirs lined up good with it, appreciate the info by chance!
I've been in third world and developing countries. The worst was Sri Lanka...no gas, rolling blackouts, pharmacy shortages and civil unrest. To get off the X there was only one option...check into the most expensive hotel I could find. Why? 24 hr security, buffets, gym and power. Waited 1 week to exfil back to the usa. It can get hostile in America if SHTF.
I've gotten deep into an ebike as my urban escape vehicle.
With 2 years and 3k miles of testing, I've learned all the trails and hidden locations aroundmy area.
It's entirely possible to get 20 miles outside the city on short notice with 150 liters of gear.
I live off grid in the Australian bush in a bell tent. Have solar, rainwater, greenhouse with vegetables, a backup supply of food with basic camping equipment, a woodstove and a generator. The biggest threat here is bushfires, its ultra dry here and the camp is all wood and canvas. My bugout evacuation emergency is put a few backpacks of gear in my car and go car camping at the beach or families place until the fire is over. Thanks
Out of curiosity for us here in the US, what is going on with personal firearms? What are Aussies legally allowed to own? We get conflicting accounts.
Good Video! I for sure, would worry more about getting home, than leaving. Glad I live in a rural area though, instead of a big city
Great concepts in this video. If you fail to plan then you have planned to fail. Be responsible for your self and family. Have your own family plan and practice or review it once or twice a year. Your plan should have a get home bag before a bug out bag. Also the home bug in plan should have car boxes to bug out or packs to bug out. A good plan will know when to exit usually before the event happens. Katrina was the classic government leaders who failed to plan decades before the event. Keep up the great videos.
I use the term “get home bag” rather than bug out. No need to leave unless there’s serious action headed your way and good situational awareness will give you time to handle that.
Great video. It bears importance to think of bugging out not as a go to when the worst of the worst happens but when it’s a death sentence to stay. If you were a Jew living in Poland in 1939 with the German advance heading straight for you, forget your job, home etc and leave. Expeditiously. Likewise, you can have the most gung ho survivalist homestead but if you managed to build it in the red forest in 1985, when 1986 rolls around and that Geiger counter starts ticking, leave it all.
Know when It’s better to stay put and know when you absolutely need to leave.
In the right context, either bugging in or out, both can get you killed.
Why does everyone have to bring the holocoaster into everything?
My urban experience has taught me to get off the X & travel lite. Was in Colombo Sri Lanka last year...rolling blackouts, pharmacy shortages, no gas and massive civil unrest happened. My safe house was getting into a 5 star hotel....24hr security, buffets, pool/gym. I waited 1 week before flying out. I had to ditch my sensitive items before passing thru a metal detection unit. Food for thought.
Wise man once said, "Don't be where the problem is". If you have to think about a hasty exfil, you may want to consider a Strategic Relocation that will enable you less worry of bad people doing bad things. Not my original idea, but I'm very fortunate that my career path has lead me away from the cities into more rural settings. Still working on getting a homestead, but at least i'm in a quiet town. Also, make friends with your sheriff's and local PD. All advice is Sponsored by Bear Independant, Refuge Medical, Kaleb House and Grindstone Ministries. Cheers, Guys!
I agree however lots of people don't live in rural areas or don't even have property to defend. If you live in a dense area sometime bugging out is your best choice. Sometimes anywhere but there is your best option.
Moving to a more secure location would be the best preparation but under those circumstances having a secondary location fam/friend and having a bug out bag to get there would come far before moving as that's not an easy task
Specifically thinking about a dangerous scenario where you couldn't use a car. Like riots, loss of power, invasion. Some think it's unrealistic but I think it's wise to hope for the best while preparing for the absolute worst
Take your hiking gear and go hike for three or four days up a muontain. You'll learn more in that time than 1000 hours of youtube....
You’re telling like 80 percent of the comments section to self delete by saying that 😂
I just have a camping bag. It's the one I actually use for camping, and I figure if it'll last me 3-4 days in the woods, it'll do fine if my home becomes unsafe and I need to leave. It has all the basics for survival, and a bit more such as a water filter, tent, sleeping bag, stove, rain gear, hygiene, spare skivvies, etc. The same stuff you'd need anywhere. Even emergency shelters often don't have beds and people have to stay in tents, same with sleeping bags, or even clean water. For those kinds of things, you only really need one bag for multiple people, except for extra sleeping bags or blankets, and rain gear. I've got extra rain gear in the vehicle, and we can always grab extra blankets and clothes on the way out the door.
It's not a perfect system, but I don't think there's any such thing, and it has the essentials. All the fam needs to do is pack some clothes and blankets, and whatever else they think they need. Our only rule is in an emergency, you only grab what you can pack and carry in less than 5 minutes. We've had to do this twice, both weather related.
Bug in 1st if the the location gets compromised then leaving is the smart thing to do .
This was very good and quite responsible. Thanks!
I started my bug out plan with this is where I will go if I am unable to hunker down.
Great reality check. Logical and rational. Thanks!
Having grown up in a hurricane and flood prone area, I've tried to explain this to people time and time again. If you do need to leave home due to floods/hurricanes/fires/etc:
1) Have stuff staged to thrown in your car.
2) Keep that car in good working order.
3) Keep the gas tank as full as possible.
4) Get out before it gets too bad.
5) Have a predetermined and realistic destination.
6) Be sure any people already there know that you are coming.
7) Bring supplies like food and toiletries, not tactical gear, so you aren't a burden on your hosts.
If you live someplace like NYC and don't own a car, then maybe hoofing it might make sense. Rules 4-7 still apply though or you will eventually end up in a place like the Superdome.
Looking at that lower and mag in the hole puncher you have I’d say it’s 7.62? Excellent choice!
What part of gulf coast are you from? I’m central MS…..
I agree prepare don’t over prepare if you do have stash spots for spares… small palm size flash lights break apart rifles small first aid pack foldable puffy jackets one xtra pair socks etc be smart pack light🎉
Method, Purpose, End-State... There are situations when you want to run (Chernobyl, Katrina, Fukishima, Love Canal, East Palestine...) and others where you want to hunker down. Some cases you want a bugout bag with the 'cool stuff'; others where you want a packed suitcase with clothes, your electronic data, photographs/videos, reward cards, and cash. Skills, knowledge, family, and a strong social network are more valuable than a lot of gear.
You nailed it!
Solid advice!
Thank you Randall👍
So many people saying they are planning to go live in the woods but then asking what they need to take with them......umm you are not going anywhere if you have to ask what to take....gotta love these types of videos that really bring up what the vast majority of people need to think about....sure there is decent sized run and gun community out there but for the average citizen this should be their go to video on what to do 🍻
if you live in an urban area...you need a bug out bag. you will likely need to leave in SHTF scenario
Have you done anything about strategic types, geographical, and what not? Good stuff
Bang on the money bud! Great Chanel you have, cutting through theBS and keeping it real!
I think people tend to pessimistic about metro communities during hard times. Most historical examination (London Bombing during WWII being one example) indicate that the natural tendency for people is to bond together during times of hardship, form communities, and act collectively for survival. In a bad case scenario the outlook isn’t good for individualists. Have a team and thrive.
I'm staying on my 10 acres here deep in the Arkansas Ozarks. I have a food supply, water supply, security system that doesn't need a power supply and they are my two Belgian's. Oh and their food and water is stored up as well. I didn't spend 23 years in the ARMY for nothing. NSDQ!!!!
Bug Out bags makes perfect sense for all of us living in the city. A bag of survival gear and ammunition is waaaay better than nothing at all.
Please don't discourage people. For you living way up in the woods a Bug Out bag isn't your biggest priority, but for everyone else trying to escape a crisis it's the difference between life and death. Some of you may laugh at what I'm saying, but I always say 'better safe than sorry'!
Bug out bags to get back home when real shtf happens is a good thing. Bugging out to the wilderness is idiotic for 99.99% of the population.
I agree with nick and some of your points as well… however if things are bad people who are already established outside of major cities will not take kindly to city folk coming up there way. Like someone said earlier at that point most the people leaving the city are going to be panicked “refugees” a majority without a plan create a dangerous majority to worry about you then have a society with a whole lot more wolves created in society out of desperation.
Unless you can see the future, youre very unlikely to make it out of the city.
Watching this from rural England. Problem here is that it's just moorland/tundra up here and the bits that arent are just very mountainous farmland with a few pine and swampy trees.
Very cold, wet, humid and extremely windy.
Imho a get home bag is far more important than a bug out bag. You should be able to hunker down, or travel on foot for 2-3 days if the roads are impassable.
100%. I have always wondered what people are actually preparing for. Live 20 miles from GOM. My generators I have used quite a bit as well as window units and all my flashlights. My body armor...well got it but have never actually needed it. BTW flashlights are extremely useful after a hurricane. I had 5 after Ida. Had to get 5 more because they all got used/broke/ misplaced.
Brother you nailed this... I have one homestead.. soon moving to a newly build one completely off grid.. and yes if you bail or bug out.. you are simply a glorified refugee
I live out in the country, so there is no need to leave or go anywhere.
@@Randy-1967 An I live in Hills
Very sound, I appreciate your commitment to reality, thank you.
A smart and practical talk, on point bro 🍻
Most important items for an emergency go-to bag: extra clothing, prescription medical items, certified copies of important documents. Usually at the emergency shelter they will have food and water and basics. Otherwise, if you can stay safe at home, just stay there.
I live on the border of a national forest. On a ridge with one main road.
If the internet goes out for a long time and I quit hearing cars, I’m dropping a gang of trees at each intersection leading to the main road,
Contingency, if we had to leave there is a national trail within 5 miles.
That trail will be our home highway until we find a better place.
Only plans I have
How many people well be stranded along the HIGHWAY 😮
Trucks are a must
One of the first things they say they will do is completely restrict travel so there aint gonna be no bugging out, a LOT of people will find out the hard way when they are stuck on the road with thousands of unprepared people
It's usually best to take an alternate route, you should know several ways to get to your planned destination
You get stuck on the highway with a road block your dead
Every roadway will be blocked by foreign forces, or Bubba and his 10 teammates with 308s and thermals. No way you can use roads
Thank you for giving some sound reasonable thoughts on this matter.... Too many fantasies out there....
Oh and NoLa was the only place in La that any guns were taken away from residents, I was 30 miles away and active in rescue operations .....
i live in the suburbs just out side of a north east city, the plan is to shelter in place depending on the situation. If the shtf is bad enough we will bug out to the family farm a couple hours away. Situational awareness is key
First reason I would potentially bug out is I am in the suburbs close to SF Bay Area. If things went really bad, the mobs would head our way because we live in closer proximity to farms, animals, fishing, etc. there’s just too many people to contend with. 2nd reason, though even less likely, would be FEMA rounding people up after a disaster of some sort. I’d defend as long as possible until safety became a real concern.
Thank you for posing this question. This is not First Blood, it's the real world. Ok so something happens, I run to the woods, now I'm out there looking dumb with a bunch of gear. Now what???
Just a rhetorical question to spark interest in alternatives that, though they may not be trendy, are viable and in some cases better.
Couple of points, and agree overall with the message. For natural disasters and events that aren't completely WROL or long term collapse of grid on large scale, yes, not being kitted out, great idea, otherwise, utilizing a small chest rig or plate carrier you can wear under like a flannel/jacket/coat/zip up lightweight hoodie would be better. Also, guns were definitely taken in Katrina, this was confirmed by personnel in service there, at the time, with no reason to lie, as they teared up telling me. Have a great weekend sir.
I made a get home bag /shelter in place for my daughter who went to college. First aid, water purifier, noaa radio, pre programed hand held ham with notes for what channel is for what stuff like that
A middle road is possible. Our house is visible from the road but we got a barn out back that's not. If there's a grid down situation our plan is to go out back so we're not sitting pretty with our lights on and ac running , giving people the idea we might have something worth taking
A good example was during covid. The back roads and forest service roads in NE Washington became loaded with cars, pickups, campers, winnebago's etc. from the populous metro area. I went up one road and there were maybe 15 vehicles off to the side of the road in just a few miles. People were tresspassing and building 'campsites' in woods just off the road. I saw a guy fishing in a creek you could step across. A local gas station ran out of snacks and anything edible in about 3 days. My friend talked to people who said they'd survive in the remote areas until covid passed over so they wouldn't catch it. Two weeks later they were largely gone. Very weird...
A) I live in a highly populated area
B) I'm going to a highly Isolated Cathusian monastery near a lake. Cathusian monks won't care because they're not being interrupted. And the lake offers fresh water and fish.
Glad someone is saying what I've been thinking too! Like I'm really going to leave everything I've worked for to be looted? Let alone leave behind valuable supplies and tools I WILL need versus running around (where?) with a gun I most likely won't need. If I did end leaving I would take my every day CCW anyway, it'll do the job regardless of circumstances. I do have a BOB mostly ready to go, with a checklist of some items to grab last minute. But that bag also has my hiking and camping gear, so its double duty. I'm not wasting money on a bag to sit around and gather dust. And it's disasters I'm worried about. If there's a tornado alarm the bags will be in the basement already anyway where we shelter. Or the chemical spill in OH. I live a few blocks from a switch yard and who knows what moves through there.
The only reason I have a bug out bag is that I'm located near the port of Houston, and in the case of a nuclear attack from a near peer military, I've figured that major ports are probably first or second tier targets. Thusly a bag for GTFO purposes is nice to have on hand, any other SHTF type scenario our plan is to hunker down.
A true "Veteran of the Psychic Wars"....I loved the intro. Buck & Eric would as well.
Well said, I have wondered for years where these bug out people were going.
when people say "bugging out" more most mean leaving high density populated areas. for others it just means being mobile.
Having been through natural disasters, where my home was destroyed by an F5 tornado, finding shelter if you have pets is a huge pain in the ass. None of the shelters would allow us to bring our dog with us and said just leaver here outside where is actively storming, Nope, we drove around and finally found a hotel in a rough part of town because that was all that was available. All we had were the clothes on our backs and our beat up vehicles. When it gets really bad you get into survival mode, and deal with what ever comes your way. At that time I was focused on my family, nothing else.
Oh and btw, having a detached shed/building etc was useless in that arena. All that was left of my 10x10 shed was the gravel it set on, everything in it was gone including over 1,000 books (we had recently PCS'ed from Germany) and the shed itself. I had a two cars leaing up against my daughters room that I have no idea who they belonged to.
You bought a chinese tin shed. You can build a shed to survive a hurricane
@@amxmachine Wrong, it came with the house and it was wood not tin. Building a "shelter" to withstand an F5 tornado is not happeneing if it above ground. All structures touched by that tornado were damaged some literally left nothing but a foundation. Physics applies regardless of whether you it is a "chinese tin" or wood shed. Wind an debris at speeds well over 200 mph is like sand blasting the face of the earth. In many places there was not even a blade of grass left.
I have built in tornado rooms into houses and it is not an easy things, the walls are 12" thinck and have multiple layers of different matieral to reduce penetrations. I can tell you have never had to face death in the face and live to tell about it.
Many people's plan is going North and live in the woods. Thumbs up guys.