Fantastic video, not enough being talked about in regards to towing. You make all the right points as far as what we look for in a towing vehicle ! Not enough TH-cam channels really understand the points you cover, great job. Lots of us actually use our trucks for what they are designed for and nobody is really looking at these needs in a serious manner.
It would only make sense to show a different count for them being used as well. ie. if there are 2 pull thrust and 10 back ins it may show eg. 8 available but 2 pull-ins could be used with a line.
These are really practical and logical improvements that would make towing with a Cybertruck better. I hope Tesla watches your video and makes the changes.
Good points! I imagine with the cameras, pressure sensors in suspension and power usage when accelerating, could automatically create, at least a suggestion for trailer profile
I think they nixed the air compressor idea because hand helds are more powerful, and the Cybertruck uses it air a lot to let you go up and down quickly as much as you want. Rivian needs to recharge after a little use per OutofSpec. Per lead engineer at Tesla who was asked about it.
Personally I think third party will come up with this but dedicated left and right screens with a centre display console like the F9 for the 3/Y. Then you can add cameras on the tail of your trailer to link up with your left and right displays.
This video is pure gold! I hope Tesla sees this. Every point is well presented, well thought out, and constructive. These should all go on Tesla’s todo list. Subscribed!
Great video. I can't wait to see if Telsa includes these features. If the toe hitch extends, the departure angle is decreased and those off-roaders won't like it. But it's a give and take for functions. They will be a tow CT package with a huge battery someday.
Fantastic job and effort on showing how competitors understand the towing experience way better than Tesla. Tesla had a few years to study the competitors even.
Great video! I agree with all the points you outlined and especially the last point about an optional Cybertruck version built for towing with an extended range battery (at least the 500+ miles listed in the original specifications) that doesn't require the loss of 1/3 of the bed space for the placement of an extended battery pack. Hopefully, Tesla views this video and seriously considers all the towing improvement suggestions you covered. Maybe an improved towing version of the Cybertruck will be incorporated in Tesla's quad motor Plaid version of the Cybertruck that Elon Musk previously announced??? A pre-wired camera connection at the hitch and camera kit for connecting rear and side mounted cameras on the trailer might help solve the towing mirror problem, but Tesla may also need to add more screen real estate in the cabin to have the ability for constant viewing of the camera video while towing. Also, does anyone know if Tesla has provided any information about the current Cybertruck design being structurally engineered with attachment points to mount a 5th wheel tow hitch in the bed?
Thank you for the watch and support 🙏🏼 I believe that most of these “issues” will be fixed via software updates as well as future iterations of the CT. In regard to the 5th wheel question, I could be wrong but I don’t think you can do 5th wheel towing with a unibody
So youre suggesting a cybertoemaster trim. Big Mirror reduce your range significantly. TFL did a test comparison with the RAM and found they added 7 mil/gal on a Cummings diesel. It would be better served using remote left and right camera's that you attach to the tail of your trailer. Backup camera zoom and a lineup ball indicator graphic.additional TPMS gauges displayed. Better Trailer AI totranslate range with different trailers that the user can library. Otherwise the Cybertruck is an oversized car, not a truck. I'm surprised Tesla hadn't worked these features into their new flagship vehicle. Update charging sites for pull thru trailering. Could you imagine having to unhook an ice vehicle to fill up your tank. To extend the hitch further out the mount would need to be reenforced. Built in Air compressor with the Cybertoemaster.
I understand the range loss with larger mirror but if they were able to move in and out when needed that would help when not towing. Using the built in cameras on the CT and producing a trailer camera system could replace the need for larger tow mirrors.
You have some pretty good ideas there for towing upgrades for me personally, I would even be willing to give up the bed just to get more range with the trailer
Thanks for covering the aspects of towing! Question, can you remove the tailgate? When I hook up my travel trailer to my F-250, and load my motorcycle on the back of the truck, I have to remove the tailgate. With the tailgate down, it would not be possible to tow the trailer. Just wondering, if Tesla took that under consideration with the CT. Thanks!
I would like to see a data cable so that 3rd parties can make all these accessories possible to integrate with the system. This cable can output camera feeds in real time and also accept 3rd party camera feeds.. That makes all this possible. This data cable must be available on the outside and on the inside.
I get the feeling you haven't towed much. I say that because in my years towing, I always wanted the tow ball closer to the rear axle, not further rearward. I would be willing to deal with a lot of inconvenience to have that tow ball as far forward as possible. 11,000 lbs. is nothing to sneeze at, it's safer and more stable and greatly increases the nimbleness when backing up.
I’ve been towing for over 20 years and I hear what your saying but at the same time I never exceed 80% of what the tow vehicles tow capacity is so I’m not overly concerned with needing the weight directly over the axle. My Ram can tow over 20,000 lbs yet my trailer is 7,000 lbs.
Remember that Elon thinks all input is error, so expect an automatic system that gets it wrong for the next decade. You know, like the autowipers (beta).
As a Ram 3500 owner I can confidently say that this is not a better truck than any one ton truck. But was the CT supposed to compete with a one ton? No. Elon has always stated that the CT is modeled after and is supposed to compete with the Ford F-150. So do I think the CT is as good or better than a 1/2 ton pickup? Absolutely. Does any 1/2 tow a 5th wheel? Nope. So we can’t expect the CT to as well
It would be nice to have a battery pack that "lives" in the trailer. That way you don't burden the normal driving of the truck carrying around an "extra" battery. And you can charge it separately, and for campers/travel trailers it could run the accessories in place of a generator when boondocking.
Really great constructive suggestions on how to make the Cybertruck better! I think you’re spot on. I’m hoping to remove the mirrors one day. Have you seen the Seasucker temporary mirrors?
I agree with the logic of your assessments mostly. Tesla did address the point of compressor. It's just better to get your own and plug in. The added cost, weight, performance and needs, dictated their decision. Second generation, I would love a pass-thru.
If they increase the range they’ll be able to accommodate the added weight. But tbh the air compressor isn’t a big deal but when your direct competitor has one it makes it difficult to ignore. I appreciate you watching the video and posting a comment
😂 you’re not wrong but if they want to compete with ICE trucks they need to give some type of option for those who tow. Whether it be physical mirrors or giving access to different camera angles
Hola viví en California y me gustaría ver tu cybertruck nunca e visto una seria un sueño ver ese carro y aser un video para mi tiktok saludos espero tu mensaje
Most of the issues would be solved with a purchase of a Semi as an average consumer 😂 In all seriousness though, I think CT is spec’d fairly in contrast to Semi. A shower thought, what if you could install Semi mirrors onto CT since they’re easily removable? 😅
Fantastic video, not enough being talked about in regards to towing. You make all the right points as far as what we look for in a towing vehicle ! Not enough TH-cam channels really understand the points you cover, great job. Lots of us actually use our trucks for what they are designed for and nobody is really looking at these needs in a serious manner.
Thank you. I appreciate the fact that you understand the value that I’m trying to bring to the community
They could easily throw a small trailer icon thumbnail on the pull thru superchargers sites on the map
Exactly, I don’t think it’ll take much to do this but they NEED to do this. Thanks for the watch and support
It would only make sense to show a different count for them being used as well. ie. if there are 2 pull thrust and 10 back ins it may show eg. 8 available but 2 pull-ins could be used with a line.
💯 I don’t think this is a big ask
These are really practical and logical improvements that would make towing with a Cybertruck better. I hope Tesla watches your video and makes the changes.
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Good points! I imagine with the cameras, pressure sensors in suspension and power usage when accelerating, could automatically create, at least a suggestion for trailer profile
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Great suggestions and observations. Becoming the go-to truck channel for Cybertruck.
That really means a lot. Thank you
I think they nixed the air compressor idea because hand helds are more powerful, and the Cybertruck uses it air a lot to let you go up and down quickly as much as you want. Rivian needs to recharge after a little use per OutofSpec. Per lead engineer at Tesla who was asked about it.
I didn’t know this, thank you for sharing
Personally I think third party will come up with this but dedicated left and right screens with a centre display console like the F9 for the 3/Y. Then you can add cameras on the tail of your trailer to link up with your left and right displays.
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This video is pure gold! I hope Tesla sees this. Every point is well presented, well thought out, and constructive. These should all go on Tesla’s todo list. Subscribed!
Thanks 🙏🏻
Great video. I can't wait to see if Telsa includes these features. If the toe hitch extends, the departure angle is decreased and those off-roaders won't like it. But it's a give and take for functions. They will be a tow CT package with a huge battery someday.
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Fantastic job and effort on showing how competitors understand the towing experience way better than Tesla. Tesla had a few years to study the competitors even.
Thank you. Showing what the competition is doing is a great way to show that it can be done and should be done
Great video! I agree with all the points you outlined and especially the last point about an optional Cybertruck version built for towing with an extended range battery (at least the 500+ miles listed in the original specifications) that doesn't require the loss of 1/3 of the bed space for the placement of an extended battery pack. Hopefully, Tesla views this video and seriously considers all the towing improvement suggestions you covered. Maybe an improved towing version of the Cybertruck will be incorporated in Tesla's quad motor Plaid version of the Cybertruck that Elon Musk previously announced??? A pre-wired camera connection at the hitch and camera kit for connecting rear and side mounted cameras on the trailer might help solve the towing mirror problem, but Tesla may also need to add more screen real estate in the cabin to have the ability for constant viewing of the camera video while towing. Also, does anyone know if Tesla has provided any information about the current Cybertruck design being structurally engineered with attachment points to mount a 5th wheel tow hitch in the bed?
Thank you for the watch and support 🙏🏼 I believe that most of these “issues” will be fixed via software updates as well as future iterations of the CT. In regard to the 5th wheel question, I could be wrong but I don’t think you can do 5th wheel towing with a unibody
So youre suggesting a cybertoemaster trim. Big Mirror reduce your range significantly. TFL did a test comparison with the RAM and found they added 7 mil/gal on a Cummings diesel. It would be better served using remote left and right camera's that you attach to the tail of your trailer. Backup camera zoom and a lineup ball indicator graphic.additional TPMS gauges displayed. Better Trailer AI totranslate range with different trailers that the user can library. Otherwise the Cybertruck is an oversized car, not a truck. I'm surprised Tesla hadn't worked these features into their new flagship vehicle. Update charging sites for pull thru trailering. Could you imagine having to unhook an ice vehicle to fill up your tank. To extend the hitch further out the mount would need to be reenforced. Built in Air compressor with the Cybertoemaster.
I understand the range loss with larger mirror but if they were able to move in and out when needed that would help when not towing. Using the built in cameras on the CT and producing a trailer camera system could replace the need for larger tow mirrors.
You have some pretty good ideas there for towing upgrades for me personally, I would even be willing to give up the bed just to get more range with the trailer
I agree, thats why I'm heavily leaning towards getting the range extender
Sir, great video with some awesome recommendations. Thanks for sharing this with us (and hopefully Tesla too - hint, hint)!
Thank you. I sent this to Elon and Franz via X but I doubt it’ll get any consideration 😔
so basically the CT just needs all the stuff the other manufacturers have already included in their tow packages.
Yes 😂
Thanks for covering the aspects of towing! Question, can you remove the tailgate? When I hook up my travel trailer to my F-250, and load my motorcycle on the back of the truck, I have to remove the tailgate. With the tailgate down, it would not be possible to tow the trailer. Just wondering, if Tesla took that under consideration with the CT. Thanks!
Good question. I’ll look into this and post my findings. Thanks for the watch and comment
I would like to see a data cable so that 3rd parties can make all these accessories possible to integrate with the system. This cable can output camera feeds in real time and also accept 3rd party camera feeds.. That makes all this possible. This data cable must be available on the outside and on the inside.
they should do a trailer mode for the cameras
There definitely needs to be more options when towing
0:49 mirrors should be replaced with video. Also put a camera on the trailer that can stream to the screen
I agree that there needs to improvements for visibility while towing. Lets hope Tesla is listening 🤞🏻
I get the feeling you haven't towed much. I say that because in my years towing, I always wanted the tow ball closer to the rear axle, not further rearward. I would be willing to deal with a lot of inconvenience to have that tow ball as far forward as possible. 11,000 lbs. is nothing to sneeze at, it's safer and more stable and greatly increases the nimbleness when backing up.
I’ve been towing for over 20 years and I hear what your saying but at the same time I never exceed 80% of what the tow vehicles tow capacity is so I’m not overly concerned with needing the weight directly over the axle. My Ram can tow over 20,000 lbs yet my trailer is 7,000 lbs.
You can have the cameras up well driving, but you need to click the button on the screen and not the steering wheel 2:34
Yes you can but the backup camera or front facing camera is displayed as well which takes up the whole screen and I like have the navigation visible
Is the bumper steel encased in plastic? I wonder if you can mod the bumper with a cutout, so it’s more flush with the hitch?
Good question, let me look into this
So I inspected the bumpers and they definitely are plastics but I do believe that they have steel frames. I’m not 100% sure but that how they feel
@@Butter_EV I kind of figured that, it’s probably a federal requirement. Thanks for checking it out.
All great points
Thank you 🙏🏼
Great video thank you!!
Thank you I appreciate the kind words
7:40 -- Range estimates -- The simple answer is to use >>> 'projected range'
You are right but I’d love for it to do it for us rather than having to go into another menu. I like to have my navigation open when traveling
@@Butter_EVFor all Teslas they need to give us the ability to display projected range instead of rate range (bogus) or the battery percentage.
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Weigh safe hitch has tongue weight built in
Yes but I’d love if they can do this for us. I’m sure they can given that the rear suspension adjusts to what’s loaded onto the rear of the vehicle
@Butter_EV agree 100%. Your video was well thought out, and it's obvious you actually tow stuff. Tesla engineers, evidently, don't tow often.
Thank you
At 6:49 I wonder why it shows “Tesla tow Active” on a Ford Lightning screen? 😂
I believe it’s a profile name that Edmunds used for their tow test
Remember that Elon thinks all input is error, so expect an automatic system that gets it wrong for the next decade. You know, like the autowipers (beta).
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Do you put the Cybertruck into firm mode when towing, or is that mode too soft?
There isn’t a firm mode currently in their settings
@@Butter_EV Maybe it is Sport or focused? I thought they had another setting, but maybe not when towing.
There is focused. Does that stiffen up the suspension?
@@Butter_EV I think it might be the one. I am going off memory from watching reviews 😂
Has anyone thought about a 5th wheel hitch in the bed? If you are serious about towing a trailer, a 5th wheel is the only way to go.
I’m not sure a 5th wheel trailer would be a good idea on a unibody truck
@@Butter_EV I thought this monstrosity was better than an F350 or Chevrolet C3500. They can both do a great job towing a 5th wheel rig.
As a Ram 3500 owner I can confidently say that this is not a better truck than any one ton truck. But was the CT supposed to compete with a one ton? No. Elon has always stated that the CT is modeled after and is supposed to compete with the Ford F-150. So do I think the CT is as good or better than a 1/2 ton pickup? Absolutely. Does any 1/2 tow a 5th wheel? Nope. So we can’t expect the CT to as well
Need a battery for the trailer
Please elaborate
It would be nice to have a battery pack that "lives" in the trailer. That way you don't burden the normal driving of the truck carrying around an "extra" battery. And you can charge it separately, and for campers/travel trailers it could run the accessories in place of a generator when boondocking.
I see what you’re saying and I agree. I’m actually working on a video discussing this. Stay tuned
@Butter_EV thanks. We tow an enclosed 28' trailer with 2 sxs with our 6.7 f250 diesel. If you ever want more feedback or opinions let me know. Thanks!
I appreciate that. Send me an email to further discuss butterevyt@gmail.com
Cybertrack towing 😂😂
It tows really well
Really great constructive suggestions on how to make the Cybertruck better! I think you’re spot on. I’m hoping to remove the mirrors one day. Have you seen the Seasucker temporary mirrors?
Thank you 🙏🏼 I have not seen those mirrors but imma google them rn
It is quite excellent. Great list. I think Tesla will implement most of it via software update.
I hope so
I agree with the logic of your assessments mostly. Tesla did address the point of compressor. It's just better to get your own and plug in. The added cost, weight, performance and needs, dictated their decision. Second generation, I would love a pass-thru.
If they increase the range they’ll be able to accommodate the added weight. But tbh the air compressor isn’t a big deal but when your direct competitor has one it makes it difficult to ignore. I appreciate you watching the video and posting a comment
Assist with hooking up is extra important if you have to drop the trailer to charge on trips. Lot more hooking/unhooking
Really need to add more pull through stalls so NO ONE has to unhook in order to charge
Great video! Hope Tesla sees this video to get those creative ideas flowing.
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All good points. Have you posted this on X and tagged Elon, Franz etc?
I have not but maybe I should
Bro this truck wasn't meant to have mirrors in the first place
😂 you’re not wrong but if they want to compete with ICE trucks they need to give some type of option for those who tow. Whether it be physical mirrors or giving access to different camera angles
Front charging port will be fine for a lot of existing fast charging. With my Lightning i have not unhook last summer for 2000 miles.
No one should have to unhitch in order to charge. Charging locations MUST do better
@@Butter_EV land owners do not want to leave the spaces required for pull through
Does the rear window on the truck bed go down?
No, it doesn’t 😔
Hola viví en California y me gustaría ver tu cybertruck nunca e visto una seria un sueño ver ese carro y aser un video para mi tiktok saludos espero tu mensaje
Most of the issues would be solved with a purchase of a Semi as an average consumer 😂
In all seriousness though, I think CT is spec’d fairly in contrast to Semi.
A shower thought, what if you could install Semi mirrors onto CT since they’re easily removable? 😅
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I suspect Tesla is seeing far less than 1% of the owners towing.
Maybe less than that tbh
@@Butter_EV my guess is Cybertruck FSD will automate trailer hitching. Might want to tag Tesla on X with video of your towing work.
I sent him my video. Doubt he’ll ever see it 😂