We RESCUED his daddy's farm tractor! First drive in 40 years!

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  • We RESCUED his daddy's farm tractor! First drive in 40 years!
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  • @coyotiess
    @coyotiess 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good job to all that worked on this tractor It was nice to see all the smiles!

  • @valleycreekrailwayco1648
    @valleycreekrailwayco1648 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I am currently in the process of restoring a 1950 Ford 8n myself. Just finished up the paint work on the sheet metal hood. Paid about $1500 for the tractor & brush hog! It's been a pretty good little tractor.

    • @philliphall5198
      @philliphall5198 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s a great deal and worth it for sure

  • @JMRRebuilders
    @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    LETS GO BABY. Honestly it was a truly amazing experience and so thankful to have had a small part in it. LETS GO

    • @HamiltonvilleFarm
      @HamiltonvilleFarm  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It was awesome

    • @garyharrall4002
      @garyharrall4002 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You guys are awesome 👌

    • @alangreene927
      @alangreene927 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Funny stuff 😂

    • @glenjenkins920
      @glenjenkins920 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why did they cut out All the Video ??

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@glenjenkins920 what do you mean

  • @j.w.3345
    @j.w.3345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is great Hank! Worth the wait!! Love the old Fords! Edit… So cool bringing it back to let him drive his dad’s tractor. You could tell that meant a lot to him.❤

  • @alanstepney1084
    @alanstepney1084 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hank: Test Compression with all plugs removed, Throttle wide open. If bad result try wet test. (squert of engine oil in each cylinder) if still bad result, check valves are not sticking open. Re lap valves and start all over again

    • @philliphall5198
      @philliphall5198 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Need a proper valve job and set over size rings

  • @billysmith2494
    @billysmith2494 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    We still have a 1950s 8n that we still use around the farm just love the little tractor

    • @jakealter5504
      @jakealter5504 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My dad has one too

  • @lucasstiles8012
    @lucasstiles8012 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've heard you folks say things like "well we aren't mechanics" and as a mechanic, you highly overestimate how capable or trained us mechanics are.
    You most certainly are a mechanic. ❤

  • @LaJuli83
    @LaJuli83 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ❤How sweet was that❤

  • @reeceedwards2509
    @reeceedwards2509 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Congratulations Hank

  • @anil42518
    @anil42518 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great job hank the previous owner must be smiling in HEAVEN...

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It was ded an awesome time.

  • @davida.p.9911
    @davida.p.9911 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    FANTASTIC!! 😊👍 So awesome what ya'll do! Thanks for sharing, Hank!

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks brother it was a blast.

  • @peteomara8707
    @peteomara8707 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hank you say you ain't no mechanic but look like your doing pretty good

  • @ralphriddle8864
    @ralphriddle8864 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very nice job and God bless y'all and so nice for you to let him drive it

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Was really a sweet moment.

  • @user-cx5sl2et1b
    @user-cx5sl2et1b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good Afternoon Hank and good luck with your project today ! 😊

  • @BillHarrop-wq4dt
    @BillHarrop-wq4dt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At least seat your valves with grinding compound and I would have honed the cylinders and installed new rings ! Head gasket of course. I am 82 years old, rebuilt many tractors and engines in Nebraska and have worked as a mechanic on everything including aircraft. Good luck with your project.

  • @jesseperez3427
    @jesseperez3427 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Its heart warming to see everyone come together ,we need more of that ❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heck yeah it was a blast. Glad to be a small part of it.

  • @Kevin-bd5gt
    @Kevin-bd5gt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Got my grandpa's 1948 8N that we restored together 15 years ago. It started my addiction with tractors. Love seeing you work on this old Ford!

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's super cool

  • @stephanrobinson4050
    @stephanrobinson4050 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That just brings a smile on your face

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right exactly what we thought.

  • @michaelkoon8371
    @michaelkoon8371 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That old girl will run wait and see

  • @bluerebel01
    @bluerebel01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My brother-in-law has a 1939 Ford Ferguson N-9 and still works it on his farm. Every year at the County fair he wins first place for the oldest still working tractor.

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love the sound of the start 😊

  • @yvonnejohnson1557
    @yvonnejohnson1557 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like y'all's videos helps me get threw my dailies really in joy them thinks from gary

  • @DancerOfClouds
    @DancerOfClouds 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What an awesome video to watch on a quiet Sunday afternoon. Han=nk you did good and I am now a fan fo JMR Rebuilders. Great job One & All

  • @dougtaylor8735
    @dougtaylor8735 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My family had one of these when I was in high school. It was the easiest thing to work on I ever saw. We did an overhaul on the engine without removing it in one day. New sleeves,pistons, rings, bearings and valve job. It didn’t need a clutch so we didn’t have to separate the back half of the tractor.

  • @64marine
    @64marine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Get an Inline spark tester for ignition wires; cheap and easy to see if sparking. Both of you fellas struck out on compression.

  • @jimmeacham7711
    @jimmeacham7711 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job guys.

  • @BillHarrop-wq4dt
    @BillHarrop-wq4dt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job Guys !!!

  • @pupweiller1
    @pupweiller1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Those old 9N, 8N & 2N are super easy & Cheap to restore, i did an 8N & rebuilt the engine, crank rods pistons & all gaskets & 12V conversion & paint..everything for less than $1000, luckily the tires were like new, the tires are the most expensive part of those. & tractor supply carries almost anything for them, i bought my new steering wheel there.

    • @alangarsow2608
      @alangarsow2608 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The hood is the most expensive individual part on The Steiner website lol

  • @bobtucker8875
    @bobtucker8875 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Saving the old iron, very interesting 🤔. Really enjoyed the content guys. Thanks for sharing.

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I add two cycle oil to gas to first start up and let it run thru a couple of gallons just to lube it up good 👍

  • @pawsnazzy01
    @pawsnazzy01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've been waiting and waiting to see this one. I was yelling at my computer for them not changing the oil pan and putting the clean one on, but who knows they might have done it and not filmed it.
    Have fun with that Hank , and remember to drive it from time to time.

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We wish we had. So glad you enjoyed it

  • @dannydrake7348
    @dannydrake7348 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love your channel guys, I put a 12k pound Harbor Freight winch on my trailer to load dead toys, makes life so much easier

    • @johnbickwernert7508
      @johnbickwernert7508 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I know anything I would say that I is a 8N

    • @davepike4019
      @davepike4019 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To do a proper compression test you need to remove all of the sparkplug and hold the throttle wide open

    • @Charles-qt2gx
      @Charles-qt2gx หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good One Hank

  • @duanebolen543
    @duanebolen543 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There's 2 bolts in the bottom of the radiator the bull to chew took loose. Hold stuff pin for the front axle. You don't wanna take that one out unless you're gonna remove the front Axel

  • @ericgriffin397
    @ericgriffin397 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is an iconic tractor!! My dad had one and I loved it!!

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Heck yeah love it.

  • @davidrose8046
    @davidrose8046 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Hank, Matt@Diesel Creek would be so proud of you for bringing this rusty iron back to life.

    • @deborahhunt3136
      @deborahhunt3136 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      our family farm had, Ferguson. And two Oliver's

  • @8mileduckhunter63
    @8mileduckhunter63 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I remember when my Grandpa used to let me drive his tractor like this one when I was a kid.

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's so cool

  • @2ampipeonthepatio
    @2ampipeonthepatio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think my eyes are sweating. Yeah that’s what it is. If that had been my dad’s tractor, I’d have been weeping getting to drive it.

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Brother it wasn't ours and I was a bit emotional. Every son wants to ride his dad's tractor.

  • @duanebolen543
    @duanebolen543 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The best thing is to pull the starter so you can get on the ring gear

  • @tommyscroggins6297
    @tommyscroggins6297 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hank...how did you not know to take the head off and check for stuck valves? It's a flathead engine! After sitting for many years, the most common issue is stuck valves. It probably would've fired up if you'd unstuck the valves. But getting those Georgia boys to work on it made an entertaining video.

  • @staceygandy2009
    @staceygandy2009 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thats a nice thing you all done.

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was a good time.

  • @jamesmorrison1884
    @jamesmorrison1884 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice well done. Have a great day.

  • @averythomas6135
    @averythomas6135 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My grandfather's 1952 8n sat for close to 15 years, I fired it up in 2023, it's still running like a top, only problem I really had was the clutch stuck and it was a devil getting it unstuck!

  • @chrisswartzfager5814
    @chrisswartzfager5814 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hank sir you are truly awesome and a blessing to everyone. I follow you and willy and this video brought me to tears. Reminds me of my childhood days in the farm. Thank you for your blessing and your videos

  • @larrytucker2938
    @larrytucker2938 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Permatex makes a sealer for cracks in cast iron and it works well. Nice new toy, have fun.

  • @dustanshields2815
    @dustanshields2815 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    8n fords are always a pleasure to work with. Easy as pie to fix. You can get a replacement square coil that goes on the top of the distributor in 12 volt, odds are the one on there is a 6 volt. The round one is not a factory coil. I’d also recommend a single wire delco alternator. Easy to install and wire. Also another bit of advice is to use brass nuts if you can find them on the manifold, it makes future removal easier as they don’t rust to the studs.

  • @trockallen
    @trockallen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hank that would make your wife a cute little garden tractor

  • @benjaminstockton3917
    @benjaminstockton3917 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video, Hank, and a really nice story behind this tractor. Appreciate you, buddy 👍

  • @robv2026
    @robv2026 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love watching this project!

  • @darrylphipps2221
    @darrylphipps2221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your video's Hank good job on The 8N Ford Tractor 😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤

  • @jameslester3861
    @jameslester3861 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Dad passed away in 2003 and his 1949 8N sat in the tractor shed until july of 2021 when I started a complete rebuild on the engine. I also replaced the clutch and radiator. It took a little over a year to complete due to interuptions and on October 11 of 2022, the tractor was started for the first time in nineteen years. I kept the original 6 volt charging system. I still have a lot to restore on it. That single bolt under the radiator holds the front axle support pin to the radiator support. 11/16, 3/4, and 9/16 will get most of the fasteners off.

  • @davep9199
    @davep9199 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Enjoyed the video. Well done.

  • @kylejones2075
    @kylejones2075 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice thanks for sharing 🎉🎉🎉🎉😅

  • @robertsanders6463
    @robertsanders6463 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Hank, I use an old Lawn mower Gas tank on my test stand. Works Great. and you don't have a lot of fuel inside your garage. You sure made the original owner happy. Thank you

  • @chriseagle3610
    @chriseagle3610 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the good content

  • @efrainberrios8494
    @efrainberrios8494 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome!!!…💪🏻💪🏻

  • @anthonypiligno7618
    @anthonypiligno7618 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    🎉😂 long... but pretty cool 😎 video 📸... thanks everyone for all the work you guys done 👍...... JJ...😊..

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching we appreciate it

  • @paulriggers1558
    @paulriggers1558 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    sitting in my armchair, my best guess is that the jammed distributor jumped a few teeth on the timing chain, making the valves open too late, dropping the compression right down
    that engine should of run, badly, but it should of started with the good valves in...
    [in UK, we are getting quite a few probs with diesel camshafts twisting, causing a similar fault]
    keep it up young man...

  • @darylwalford8697
    @darylwalford8697 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Hank, A simple way to turn over an engine is to jack up one rear wheel, put it into a low gear then turn the wheel that's off the ground. BTW I've always called the centre contact in the dist cap a carbon brush, mechanics might use a different term in your part of the world but that's what we call it in Australia. Love those old tractors, I've worked on plenty similar Massey Fergusons but never any of that vintage Ford, great machines.

  • @ShilohShepheard
    @ShilohShepheard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, guys.
    Everyone did an amazing job..
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @RustyInventions-wz6ir
    @RustyInventions-wz6ir 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great stuff. Beautiful little tractor. Nice work. Looks like you’re having fun doing it up.

  • @gordoncoleman507
    @gordoncoleman507 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    like to see you restore it Hank

  • @royquesada5295
    @royquesada5295 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Blessing Always come to those who constantly Praise the Name of Jesus.

  • @darrenkane2208
    @darrenkane2208 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Job gentlemen

  • @seancasey2444
    @seancasey2444 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's awesome he got to ride his dad's tractor.

  • @benjaminstockton3917
    @benjaminstockton3917 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!

  • @dalehartley-vd9qo
    @dalehartley-vd9qo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video I enjoyed it Hank

  • @chiefsmkin559
    @chiefsmkin559 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You need about 62 to 65 lbs or more for compression and for it to run any less it's going to run really rough

  • @JohnBelue
    @JohnBelue 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    use mineral oil in the transmission and rear end its altogether you can get it at tractor supply

  • @JamesWilliams-wi4gl
    @JamesWilliams-wi4gl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hank!! You played the camera GREAT buddy 😎🤣 and with the sad tunes too ✌️😎😎🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I flippin love that part he did great there.

  • @lucasstiles8012
    @lucasstiles8012 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey I lived in Peachtree!
    What a nice bunch of folks

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Heck yeah we are bubble buddies. Love to meet up

    • @lucasstiles8012
      @lucasstiles8012 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That Peachtree bubble is no joke! lol

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @lucasstiles8012 yeah we are on first name basis wirh code enforcement and cops

    • @lucasstiles8012
      @lucasstiles8012 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't I know it.
      I was down there for 6 months, got to meet those guys at least a dozen times.
      Moral of the story, fix the golf carts lights *BEFORE* midnight cruises.

  • @terrycarleton3634
    @terrycarleton3634 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    looks like a 8N nice tractor to do

  • @8mileduckhunter63
    @8mileduckhunter63 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Watching your work on this tractor is really awesome.

  • @tripler3724
    @tripler3724 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Growing up, I actually used our neighbor's *N on our farm. We had a 1955 600 bought new and in those days neighbors shared labor, tractors and such, so he used ours as well. We still have the old 600.

  • @robmikell7444
    @robmikell7444 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey. A tool you need. A 24" chain wrench. You won't be fumbling trying to get a socket on those cranks. Wrap that chain around pulleys and all. Work good disassembling hydraulic cylinders too.

  • @bhekumzijekwa803
    @bhekumzijekwa803 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't give up a hope I know you gonna get going

  • @jeffreygreen240
    @jeffreygreen240 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I stand corrected! Your tractor is late 40'2 by looking at the steering. It was called wobble joint. Later the steering box was adjustable. Later the stabilizer arms were tubular not "I- beam".

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Get a old Murray lawn mower tank for testing,
    It’s easier and safer also
    From a 73 year old gas, propane and diesel mechanic in West Texas

  • @shrapnelsbunker736
    @shrapnelsbunker736 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Dad ended up buying a lil 8N from a buddy of his... That's one mighty lil bulldog of a tractor.. Plus he decided it would be fun to restore a ol Claxon horn he had and put it on the tractor.. Kids get a good laugh at the ooogah! ooogah from that ol horn...

  • @earlalford7694
    @earlalford7694 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great history thanks for sharing

  • @alisciamarotta3888
    @alisciamarotta3888 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Definitely a full restoration,,seems like all the parts are there. #JustaFewAcres , Pet has done few, they look like they just came out the showroom.

  • @richardbaumeister466
    @richardbaumeister466 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    N series Tractors are awesome and everything you will need is available!

  • @garyharrall4002
    @garyharrall4002 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a 1949 8n that my grandpa bought brand new in 1949. Great little tractors. Very solid.
    Is wily not doing these videos with you anymore

    • @HamiltonvilleFarm
      @HamiltonvilleFarm  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      he was in this one........

    • @JMRRebuilders
      @JMRRebuilders 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Love it

    • @garyharrall4002
      @garyharrall4002 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@HamiltonvilleFarm what I mean was he didn't help ya with this one.

  • @richardbaumeister466
    @richardbaumeister466 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hank, You already said it was converted to 12v. You can run the 6 volt starter on 12 Volts. Just change the coil and the condenser and generator and you should be good

  • @larrytucker2938
    @larrytucker2938 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pull all the spark plugs and open throttle all the way to check compression, good luck.

  • @8978Marty
    @8978Marty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thats awsome Hank. My Uncle had one of those when I was growing up

  • @fayewik5153
    @fayewik5153 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    hank you should check for spark and compression first before you get to far...

  • @timryan7198
    @timryan7198 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    8n had small rear hubs like this one. 9n and 2n's are much larger! Wish I would have kept my 8n👍

  • @earlalford7694
    @earlalford7694 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amen to that

  • @williamhenley2185
    @williamhenley2185 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On flathead engines when they sit awhile the valves could be rusted in the block. That might be your compression problem. Good luck and God Bless.

  • @outabeat
    @outabeat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That tractor brings back memories. We have a smaller version at our farm. It was used to plow fields of Bird of Paradise 60+ years ago. I put tons of miles on it when I was a kid. Just realized we still have it stuck in a shed.

  • @annalorree
    @annalorree 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I rebuilt a 1950 8n a few years ago. They’re good little chore tractors, just don’t put a front end loader on it. The front end isn’t built for that kind of weight. I use mine to put in a garden each spring, and to skid logs around.
    Also, I’ve got new front tires and tubes for that width front available if anyone needs some. I decided to go with wider front tires.

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You guys were a blast to watch and it was fun but I had to keep my mouth shut 🤫

  • @brucelancaster7405
    @brucelancaster7405 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice job 👍👍👍

  • @eddiezackery4819
    @eddiezackery4819 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You supposed to be laughing the same valve to the valve guide this is not just to shine it up, but this is one to comments that you’ve generated. Have a great day big Ed from Central City Kentucky. Wishing you a great day.

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lots of new parts for them and a tad high price but it’s worth it 😊

  • @jeremydavis2595
    @jeremydavis2595 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool project ya got there!!

  • @sidneylevesque8586
    @sidneylevesque8586 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my grandfather had one I grew up driving it. the one you have had not been converted to a 12-volt system yet. we did so much with that tractor I miss that. even though the coil says 12 that appears to be a 6-volt generator.

  • @user-dk2lc6ez2v
    @user-dk2lc6ez2v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is your timing 180 degrees out. Poor a table spoon of gear oil in each cylinder.😊

  • @patrickkuntz5103
    @patrickkuntz5103 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey. I dont know much about the ford n series tractor, i recently bought two vac case tractor one a 1946 and a 1949 both the same, got both running id love to send pics but don't know how anyway love your channel good luck

  • @Jerrylb
    @Jerrylb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im in same 8n group .bruce is the administrator. He is very knowledgeable .