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Ridiculous how scientifically illiterate always present their ignorance as superior knowledge. Cormac and Herzog don't know jack shit about reality, save for their fanciful scratches in the sand about their subjective and much ungrounded reality
I love how Cormac brings his own great depth of knowledge to the conversation, and absolutely keeps pace with Werner on the subject of these ancient caves. Two men of bottomless curiosity. Such an inspiration.
What this interview elucidates is that the reason Cormac McCarthy spoke not of his writing, is because it made him deeply uncomfortable. See how each time the conversation turns away from objective topics and towards his subjectivity (his writing), he immediately shifts the focus elsewhere: to Faulkner, to Krauss. I will not pathologize this, or say whether it is right or wrong or healthy or unhealthy, but rather say that it is simply different. To have a mind, a powerful, unique, curious mind, and to want to turn it towards the world, towards ideas and possibilities, rather than pure self-referentiality, is a gift. I know the comments cry out for more, lamenting the lack of McCarthy’s explanation of his work, whether process or content, but to me such thinking misses the forest for the trees. I came to Cormac McCarthy after his passing, because of his interview with David Krakauer. Such life! Such vitality! I did not need him to tell me how he writes or why, because he showed me in that one interview how to think, how to feel, how to SEE. He was led by curiosity first and foremost. All of the writing stemmed from that. These human traits are the bigger piece of the puzzle. The why of it all, the searching. It is far richer and far more beautiful to see his mind at work, rather than seeing it limited by speaking narrowly about his own work.
Hate is a bit too strong a word. Annoying is a better description. He constantly interrupts and name drops more than the late Larry King. Everyone is his “friend”. Maybe good in his own field which is not interviewing important creative people.
Herzog is absolutely right. In 40 or more years such beautiful literature hasn't graced the written page. Rest in peace, you legend. Cormac McCarthy was such a magnificent genius and I am utterly grateful to have read his works. I really wished we could have heard more on his process, on his philosophy on existentialism, and his thoughts on Nietzsche and any potential influence the Nietzschean notion of the ubermensch may have had on such characters as Judge Holden, Anton Chigurh, and on the bearded man from _The Outer Dark_ . However, it's clear, he absolutely hates talking about his work, his process, and how extraordinarily prodigal, rare, and beautiful his genius was. And I guess that's okay. I've a brain that works on occasion, and I'll figure things out on my own. Thanks for the video.
I have come to believe that the individuals who possess what we characterize as "genius" don't really have any grasp of what it is, either, and/or how to describe how it works. I have heard many musical artists describe it as "channeling", i.e., they are simply a vessel for the product. When Tom Petty was asked about the "process" of writing a song, he said that he doesn't like to "look it in the eye". These people can just "do it", and if they did understand it, I don't think most of them would open up honestly about how. It's not really possible to deconstruct genius, and I think that they instinctively understand that and that there is a danger or fear of losing this ability that they have been blessed with. A real world manifestation of this would be the observation that in many instances, the best "teachers" are not the most talented. The reason behind this would be that those individuals have to work much harder to become proficient at something than a "prodigy" would, thus they understand "process" and how to explain it better than a gifted individual.
Also, my most heartfelt and utmost respect for Cormac McCarthy, please RIP. Blessing us with his masterpieces of writing (Blood Meridian, No Country for Old Men, The Road, and hopefully The Passenger/Stella Maris dual-book is a cool experiment literarilly) . Still need to read the All the Pretty Horses series but i'm working on it)... RIP to Cormac McCarthy and much love and respect forever. Kxç,I'm very interested in his dual books released around his death (The Passenger and Stellas Maris). One of my favourite novelists of the 20th and 21st century and just a beautiful, humble, ever curious, and highly intelligent and deeply enigmatic man. I feel blessed that I was graced to live in the same time as him. We'll miss you Cormac.
Krause says a whole lot of nothing very quickly. Herzog and especially McCarthy took their time in making sure their thoughts were clear. Wish they were the only two being interviewed. Krause kept rudely interrupting them.
He was antithetical to McCarthy in my opinion. As a lover of _The Road_ and all of his works, Krauss' early comments about humanity dying out and saying it wasn't so bad really pissed me off. No. Read _The Road_ read your Dylan Thomas, you son of a bitch. Damned roll over coward. I was amazed at McCarthy's humble modesty and how he swiftly switched the topic from his writing, after Herzog brought me to tears reading my second favorite McCarthy passage, and instead focused on Krauss' book, graciously complimenting him on how good it was. Sure, fair enough, maybe it is good, but man, Krauss' soft, cowardly comment before pissed me off.
This part is a gem shining bright; nothing Krauss (crass?) said before or after could ruin the insanely delicious moment of Werner Herzog reading a passage written by Cormac McCarthy. Yes, THAT happened. And here it is.
I'm a simple man, I see Werner Herzog and Cormac McCarthy discussing William Faulkner, I click... though I think McCarthy has more in common with McCullers, O'Connor, and maybe Welty
Nearly one year now since Cormac’s passing. Never know what you have until it’s gone. Great writer’s share a gift of honesty in observation, coupled with mastery of story telling. I am hopeful that time will treat him well and his stories will endure and gain greater appreciation.
Will we ever get a complete understanding of Cormac and his works? Ian, thank you for uncovering and exposing these loose puzzle pieces allowing us to form a picture, albeit incomplete, of not only Cormac but ultimately of all of us.
Yes, I believe we are pretty close to a complete understanding. If he hadn't left tens of thousands of pages of his notes/drafts to an archive we wouldn't. But, I think now that he is dead friends/family of his will also fill in a lot of the gaps.
@@WriteConscious People haven't even begun getting to some aspects of McCarthy. Kelly James' work on Blood meridian shows how far behind most people are.
Yes! This is the way. That book gave me PTSD, but it's one of the best books I ever slogged through. Good Lord, it needs a cover warning, but it's fucking amazing.
The best part before I've even finished the first minute of this is saying a novelist, a filmmaker and a physicist, when Cormac McCarthy has been at the Santa Fe institute hanging out amongst top level scientists for decades. Even personally just starting his new book The Passenger he references leptons. I'd wager he's got a good grasp of a number of science fields, especially physics.
@@AtombI'll jump in. Aguirre, the Wrath of God was the film that caused my interest in cinema. The opening scene set in the mountains is one of the great images, in my opinion. For a more recent film, the absurdity in Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans suited me wonderfully.
What a great interview and great combination of intellects. Werner Herzog is an amazing film director by the way. I recommend Aguirre The Wraith of God. About a Spanish conquistador.
All The Pretty Horses is astoundingly poetic. At the very starting chapter (so no spoilers), I read this part and could visualise it vividly in my mind and knew this was going to be a great read: "As he turned to go he heard the train. He stopped and waited for it. He could feel it under his feet. It came boring out of the east like some ribald satellite of the coming sun howling and bellowing in the distance and the long light of the headlamp running through the tangled mesquite brakes and creating out of the night the endless fenceline down the dead straight right of way and sucking it back again wire and post mile on mile into the darkness after where the boilersmoke disbanded slowly along the faint new horizon and the sound came lagging and he stood still holding his hat in his hands in the passing groundshudder watching it till it was gone." I've never heard someone describe a train passing in the distant night like a comet shooting through the sky sucking the shadows of a fenceline across the landscape, but I know that image. Cormac uses these little fragments of human memory and sensation that we don't really pay attention to in our waking lives and writes with them like they were different colours, an oils painter mixes together.
It's interesting Cormac seems to love Krauss though. He edited two of his books. But, that could have been because Cormac knew that it was for the good of science. For instance, one of those books he edited got Krauss on Joe Rogan (where he shared some awesome info for beginners but was intolerable again lol) but that episode I'm sure has been heard by millions now.
Regarding the quote of Picasso that we have learned nothing (after viewing the cave paintings) I read the following passage and it seemed apropos. From An Episode In The Life Of A Landscape Painter by Cesar Aira "hypothetically, that, were all the storytellers to fall silent, nothing would be lost, since the present generation, or those of the future, could experience the events of the past without needing to be told about them, simply by recombining or yielding to the available facts, although, in either case, such an action could only be born of a deliberate resolution. And it was even possible that the repetition would be more authentic in the absence of stories. The purpose of storytelling could be better fulfilled by handing down, instead, a set of "tools", which would enable mankind to reinvent what had happened in the past, with the innocent spontaneity of action. Humanity's finest accomplishments, everything that deserved to happen again. And the tools would be stylistic. According to this theory, then, art was more useful than discourse."
Just shows you the value of podcast long form interviewing, so we don’t need to hear the interviewer keep interrupting their guests mid-sentence, for a quick word from our sponsors.
"Hate Speech" lmao.... Human reviewed too after a protest by me! But, they wouldn't tell me why it got removed because it would be a "security violation." They have removed at least five or six videos. That's why I started the course because I had all these videos I couldn't post lol.
@@WriteConscious Herzog gives the German title for Joseph Conrad's _Heart of Darkness_ . Look up the German word for "dark" or "black" and you can hear him say it. Ridiculous. This is what we are fighting, the seeping, creeping, obliterating idiocy of rampant Liberalism, unhinged and uprooted from its original, beautiful source and hijacked by ideologues using feeble AI to root out "racism". It's insane. Don't they read their Stan Lee? Don't they know that with great power comes great responsibility? God damned Philistines.
Man, wish Lex Friedman could have gotten an interview with McCarthy, I feel the lack of interruptions and a long 3 or 4 hour run time would have been really wonderful.
But the road is not a pessimistic book. Of course, nuclear war is not a pretty thing, but the story is really about the love a boy and a man have for each other
what a cool conversation but I hate this old school garbage of stopping conversations for commercial's Guess I'm too used to 3 hour uncut podcasts all over the internet
'We've learned nothing' is pretty much what Larry David's Larry David concluded at the end of Curb Your Enthusiasm. Would like to hear more from Cormac Mccarthy. The cave stuff is fascinating I know but felt a bit of a waste.
My epilogue for Cormack Under your personal ceiling tomorrow, when you awake. Under your personal sky tomorrow, when you step out, you then make a choice. To proceed under the untempered, raw world of wilderness and all possibilities. When we awake, and look at the sky tomorrow, every possibility historical or fiction could happen. The same space of our present pessimism could be the backdrop of the extraordinary. God, Satan all possible in the creation and imagination. Or a higher structure of adaptation that allows emotion and sentient consciousness in harmony. Where will you row when you are placed on that remote lake?
It’s ironic that only a few years have passed and many of claims made here seem questionable or have been proven to be false (e.g. the amount of admixture of Neanderthal genes). So much for the absolutism of science.
I appreciate both of these guys but man this convo comes off as so cringe to me. All this talk about not caring about the survival of our species while talking about how amazing our species is. The host makes a comment about how computers (our creations) will somehow be the big leap in evolution (which is a really silly thing to say) and then later says that maybe we'd be better without our culture... We'll then there could be no supposed great evolutionary leap in our creations. This just comes off as a pissing contest on who can be the most unfeeling and above being human.
This is great, its just very unfortunate Ira Glass sounded often like an anxious man looking at his watch. When you have three great minds like this together, why on earth would you not let the conversation unfold naturally and freely, instead of frantically interrupting it at times, and then editing it for time later on?
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Ridiculous how scientifically illiterate always present their ignorance as superior knowledge. Cormac and Herzog don't know jack shit about reality, save for their fanciful scratches in the sand about their subjective and much ungrounded reality
I love how Cormac brings his own great depth of knowledge to the conversation, and absolutely keeps pace with Werner on the subject of these ancient caves. Two men of bottomless curiosity. Such an inspiration.
Yes!
What this interview elucidates is that the reason Cormac McCarthy spoke not of his writing, is because it made him deeply uncomfortable. See how each time the conversation turns away from objective topics and towards his subjectivity (his writing), he immediately shifts the focus elsewhere: to Faulkner, to Krauss.
I will not pathologize this, or say whether it is right or wrong or healthy or unhealthy, but rather say that it is simply different. To have a mind, a powerful, unique, curious mind, and to want to turn it towards the world, towards ideas and possibilities, rather than pure self-referentiality, is a gift.
I know the comments cry out for more, lamenting the lack of McCarthy’s explanation of his work, whether process or content, but to me such thinking misses the forest for the trees. I came to Cormac McCarthy after his passing, because of his interview with David Krakauer. Such life! Such vitality! I did not need him to tell me how he writes or why, because he showed me in that one interview how to think, how to feel, how to SEE. He was led by curiosity first and foremost. All of the writing stemmed from that.
These human traits are the bigger piece of the puzzle. The why of it all, the searching. It is far richer and far more beautiful to see his mind at work, rather than seeing it limited by speaking narrowly about his own work.
amen-
Krause, as usual is a total vibe killer.
Imagine if Lawrence Krauss decided to never speak on anything again. The world would be a little better, I think.
A lot better.
Why the hate for Krauss?
Hate is a bit too strong a word. Annoying is a better description. He constantly interrupts and name drops more than the late Larry King. Everyone is his “friend”.
Maybe good in his own field which is not interviewing important creative people.
Preach
Herzog is absolutely right. In 40 or more years such beautiful literature hasn't graced the written page.
Rest in peace, you legend.
Cormac McCarthy was such a magnificent genius and I am utterly grateful to have read his works.
I really wished we could have heard more on his process, on his philosophy on existentialism, and his thoughts on Nietzsche and any potential influence the Nietzschean notion of the ubermensch may have had on such characters as Judge Holden, Anton Chigurh, and on the bearded man from _The Outer Dark_ .
However, it's clear, he absolutely hates talking about his work, his process, and how extraordinarily prodigal, rare, and beautiful his genius was. And I guess that's okay. I've a brain that works on occasion, and I'll figure things out on my own.
Thanks for the video.
RIP
Hi Vernon nice to see you
Lot of love
Suneeha
I have come to believe that the individuals who possess what we characterize as "genius" don't really have any grasp of what it is, either, and/or how to describe how it works. I have heard many musical artists describe it as "channeling", i.e., they are simply a vessel for the product. When Tom Petty was asked about the "process" of writing a song, he said that he doesn't like to "look it in the eye". These people can just "do it", and if they did understand it, I don't think most of them would open up honestly about how. It's not really possible to deconstruct genius, and I think that they instinctively understand that and that there is a danger or fear of losing this ability that they have been blessed with. A real world manifestation of this would be the observation that in many instances, the best "teachers" are not the most talented. The reason behind this would be that those individuals have to work much harder to become proficient at something than a "prodigy" would, thus they understand "process" and how to explain it better than a gifted individual.
He was great but come on. There's lots of incredible fiction.
Also, my most heartfelt and utmost respect for Cormac McCarthy, please RIP. Blessing us with his masterpieces of writing (Blood Meridian, No Country for Old Men, The Road, and hopefully The Passenger/Stella Maris dual-book is a cool experiment literarilly) . Still need to read the All the Pretty Horses series but i'm working on it)... RIP to Cormac McCarthy and much love and respect forever.
Kxç,I'm very interested in his dual books released around his death (The Passenger and Stellas Maris). One of my favourite novelists of the 20th and 21st century and just a beautiful, humble, ever curious, and highly intelligent and deeply enigmatic man. I feel blessed that I was graced to live in the same time as him. We'll miss you Cormac.
Krause says a whole lot of nothing very quickly. Herzog and especially McCarthy took their time in making sure their thoughts were clear. Wish they were the only two being interviewed. Krause kept rudely interrupting them.
Lmao. He was too busy planning events at Epstein's island in his head to focus on the moment.
He was antithetical to McCarthy in my opinion. As a lover of _The Road_ and all of his works, Krauss' early comments about humanity dying out and saying it wasn't so bad really pissed me off. No. Read _The Road_ read your Dylan Thomas, you son of a bitch. Damned roll over coward.
I was amazed at McCarthy's humble modesty and how he swiftly switched the topic from his writing, after Herzog brought me to tears reading my second favorite McCarthy passage, and instead focused on Krauss' book, graciously complimenting him on how good it was. Sure, fair enough, maybe it is good, but man, Krauss' soft, cowardly comment before pissed me off.
he's so annoying. he only partially redeems himself in the last few minutes
And what he says is trite.
A whole lot of nothing very quickly is a brilliant line
39:30 Herzog reads from McCarthy’s “All the Pretty Horses”
and Cormack immediately segues to Lawrence's writing :)
This part is a gem shining bright; nothing Krauss (crass?) said before or after could ruin the insanely delicious moment of Werner Herzog reading a passage written by Cormac McCarthy. Yes, THAT happened. And here it is.
@djamesv Cormac: "Let's embarrass Lawrence now."
This channel is not only entertaining
It is important
Thank you! Let's go!!
I'm a simple man, I see Werner Herzog and Cormac McCarthy discussing William Faulkner, I click... though I think McCarthy has more in common with McCullers, O'Connor, and maybe Welty
in some ways he's got a lot more in common with Hemingway as well. obviously Melville. and of course the good ol' King James
Nearly one year now since Cormac’s passing. Never know what you have until it’s gone. Great writer’s share a gift of honesty in observation, coupled with mastery of story telling. I am hopeful that time will treat him well and his stories will endure and gain greater appreciation.
This is amazing. Thank you for doing this!
My soul needed this today, thank you
Will we ever get a complete understanding of Cormac and his works?
Ian, thank you for uncovering and exposing these loose puzzle pieces allowing us to form a picture, albeit incomplete, of not only Cormac but ultimately of all of us.
Yes, I believe we are pretty close to a complete understanding. If he hadn't left tens of thousands of pages of his notes/drafts to an archive we wouldn't. But, I think now that he is dead friends/family of his will also fill in a lot of the gaps.
@@WriteConscious People haven't even begun getting to some aspects of McCarthy. Kelly James' work on Blood meridian shows how far behind most people are.
Could we have an edit of this with all of Krauss cut out?
Good idea!
I'm almost done with "Blood Meridian" is there a support group, or a therapy program available for me?
This channel!
Yes! This is the way. That book gave me PTSD, but it's one of the best books I ever slogged through. Good Lord, it needs a cover warning, but it's fucking amazing.
yes…. you read the rest if mCCarthy’s work and then you read Blood Meridian again. Best therapy I ever got
Blood Meridian is definitely the most disturbing and historically true book ever written on the American West. Brutal!
I don’t like when they shot the dancing bear and it cried like a child.
Oh my God I remember this interview. They must’ve broadcast this a long time ago, because I quit listening to NPR years ago
Me too
its still very good. Should start listening again. Radio lab is pretty great!
2009 maybe
2024 NPR is DEAD
they'd never do such an interview these days due to presence of the N-word in Blood Meridian.
Blood Meridian is The Great American Novel. RIP. His passing is a true loss.
😂 No it is definitely not
The best part before I've even finished the first minute of this is saying a novelist, a filmmaker and a physicist, when Cormac McCarthy has been at the Santa Fe institute hanging out amongst top level scientists for decades. Even personally just starting his new book The Passenger he references leptons. I'd wager he's got a good grasp of a number of science fields, especially physics.
I was reading The Passenger and Stella Maris when Oppenheimer film was released. I was hoping deep down Nolan & Murphy would read McCarthy…. 🤷♂️
My two favorite creative minds... together?!?!?! Unreal and wonderful!
Yes!
If you don't mind me asking, I've only seen Grizzly Man and one about ski jumping (which was great). What are your favourite Herzog movies?
@@AtombI'll jump in. Aguirre, the Wrath of God was the film that caused my interest in cinema. The opening scene set in the mountains is one of the great images, in my opinion. For a more recent film, the absurdity in Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans suited me wonderfully.
@@caseyclausen2627 Thank you sir. I'll put it on my list.
I am happier knowing I will never wind up on an interstellar journey with Herzog, his vision is quite something!
What a great interview and great combination of intellects. Werner Herzog is an amazing film director by the way. I recommend Aguirre The Wraith of God. About a Spanish conquistador.
Great movie!
Also great Herzog films: The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser, Fata Morgana, Heart of Glass, Stroszek, too many to list really...
All The Pretty Horses is astoundingly poetic. At the very starting chapter (so no spoilers), I read this part and could visualise it vividly in my mind and knew this was going to be a great read:
"As he turned to go he heard the train. He stopped and waited for it. He could feel it under his feet. It came boring out of the east like some ribald satellite of the coming sun howling and bellowing in the distance and the long light of the headlamp running through the tangled mesquite brakes and creating out of the night the endless fenceline down the dead straight right of way and sucking it back again wire and post mile on mile into the darkness after where the boilersmoke disbanded slowly along the faint new horizon and the sound came lagging and he stood still holding his hat in his hands in the passing groundshudder watching it till it was gone."
I've never heard someone describe a train passing in the distant night like a comet shooting through the sky sucking the shadows of a fenceline across the landscape, but I know that image. Cormac uses these little fragments of human memory and sensation that we don't really pay attention to in our waking lives and writes with them like they were different colours, an oils painter mixes together.
Do you feel there is any analog in how Cormac McCarthy and Werner Herzog write? Such as Werner Herzog's "Twilight World?"
Haven't read it yet!
What is the quote regarding being a pessimist but no reason to be miserable about it?
we need something similar where david lynch and werner herzog interview each other :)
Yes!
35:10 they start talking about Faulkner
Great stuff, but oh, God, not this guy Krauss again.
My reaction, too... "Two out of three ain't bad..."
Sadly he speaks the most, and what he says is so banal that Cormac and Werner can’t even engage with it
He flew back on the Lolita express from Epstein's island just to do this interview!
@@WriteConsciousKrauss tries so hard and can’t do what seems almost effortless to Werner and Cormac
It's interesting Cormac seems to love Krauss though. He edited two of his books. But, that could have been because Cormac knew that it was for the good of science. For instance, one of those books he edited got Krauss on Joe Rogan (where he shared some awesome info for beginners but was intolerable again lol) but that episode I'm sure has been heard by millions now.
Thank you, excellent and you are so appreciated, I admire your McCarthy travels and dedication.
Thanks!
The desert he rode was red and red the dust he raised, the small dust that powdered the legs of the horse he rode, the horse he led. 🐎🐎🐎
Yes
Hey, man. Do you have any plans to make a video on The Pale King?
Of course!! More like 100+ videos.
@@WriteConscious Fantastic! Thank you so much.
I'm glad radio is over. Every time the freaking broadcaster interrupting the trio. Fuck that.
Exactly, Cormac had that 1.25 hour interview, but nothing longer than that. He would do great on a free form podcast with a Joe Rogan type figure.
Precisely what I was thinking. Too late, Cormac is dead. Lawrence/Herzog could make it, though. Didn't happen so far :P@@WriteConscious
But I'm aware Lawrence did interview Herzog on his podcast. It was good.
do you have a novel or short story for us? Looking forward to it
If there was a version of this interview without Krauss, it would have exponential more views.
I was listening to this and kept thinking Krauss kept killing the interview, then I go to the comments section and find out I'm not the only one.
The link for the tshirts doesn't work. Got one that does?
Thank ya good sir.
Thank you!
Wow. This is akin to having Einstein, Oppenheimer and Niels Bohr in the same room and discussing Freud.
lmao
This was a wonderful discussion, though I wish the moderator made fewer interventions.
Regarding the quote of Picasso that we have learned nothing (after viewing the cave paintings) I read the following passage and it seemed apropos. From An Episode In The Life Of A Landscape Painter by Cesar Aira "hypothetically, that, were all the storytellers to fall silent, nothing would be lost, since the present generation, or those of the future, could experience the events of the past without needing to be told about them, simply by recombining or yielding to the available facts, although, in either case, such an action could only be born of a deliberate resolution. And it was even possible that the repetition would be more authentic in the absence of stories. The purpose of storytelling could be better fulfilled by handing down, instead, a set of "tools", which would enable mankind to reinvent what had happened in the past, with the innocent spontaneity of action. Humanity's finest accomplishments, everything that deserved to happen again. And the tools would be stylistic. According to this theory, then, art was more useful than discourse."
Thanks for this quote!
Just shows you the value of podcast long form interviewing, so we don’t need to hear the interviewer keep interrupting their guests mid-sentence, for a quick word from our sponsors.
Why was this taken down in the first place?
"Hate Speech" lmao.... Human reviewed too after a protest by me! But, they wouldn't tell me why it got removed because it would be a "security violation." They have removed at least five or six videos. That's why I started the course because I had all these videos I couldn't post lol.
@@WriteConsciouscrazy
@@WriteConsciousI was hoping they’d say what they thought was “hate speech”. That’s such nonsense.
@@WriteConscious Herzog gives the German title for Joseph Conrad's _Heart of Darkness_ . Look up the German word for "dark" or "black" and you can hear him say it. Ridiculous. This is what we are fighting, the seeping, creeping, obliterating idiocy of rampant Liberalism, unhinged and uprooted from its original, beautiful source and hijacked by ideologues using feeble AI to root out "racism". It's insane. Don't they read their Stan Lee? Don't they know that with great power comes great responsibility? God damned Philistines.
Man, that Ira Flatow is just rancourous!
lol
A shame we have to suffer Krauss and the host to get to Herzog and McCarthy.
All growth connected to suffering lol
you are in error to not appreciate Lawrence Krauss
also ira Flatow !!
@@paulsass4343I can appreciate him shutting the FU…!
@@paulsass4343That’s certainly your opinion. Most of the time he’s insufferable.
Man, wish Lex Friedman could have gotten an interview with McCarthy, I feel the lack of interruptions and a long 3 or 4 hour run time would have been really wonderful.
I would really like to hear this interview performed by Terry Gross.
But the road is not a pessimistic book. Of course, nuclear war is not a pretty thing, but the story is really about the love a boy and a man have for each other
Sound like epstein. "A boy and his father.."
Start Cormac, bench Werner, cut Krauss.
what a cool conversation but I hate this old school garbage of stopping conversations for commercial's Guess I'm too used to 3 hour uncut podcasts all over the internet
Who is this middle-mind Krause person? He wasted the air space and time of two art visionaries.
Lawrence Krauss? Good grief. Just have Herzog and McCarthy talk to each other.
There can be no growth without suffering
@@WriteConscious 😂😂😂
“ you Americans …you talk and talk and talk and you say nothing.” The grim reaper from the Meaning of Life.
'We've learned nothing' is pretty much what Larry David's Larry David concluded at the end of Curb Your Enthusiasm. Would like to hear more from Cormac Mccarthy. The cave stuff is fascinating I know but felt a bit of a waste.
One of the most mysterious set of eyes
Krauss is repellent.
lol, yup and took Epstein money
Krause is such a tool
My epilogue for Cormack
Under your personal ceiling tomorrow, when you awake.
Under your personal sky tomorrow, when you step out, you then make a choice.
To proceed under the untempered, raw world of wilderness and all possibilities.
When we awake, and look at the sky tomorrow, every possibility historical or fiction could happen. The same space of our present pessimism could be the backdrop of the extraordinary.
God, Satan all possible in the creation and imagination.
Or a higher structure of adaptation that allows emotion and sentient consciousness in harmony.
Where will you row when you are placed on that remote lake?
Thanks!
Did they call him “Ira”? Haha
finding this after the epstein list unfortunately
man these guys are a bunch of haters! so much hate! this aggression will not stand, man....
Lawrence Krauss really tied the room together 🤣
I’m sorry but this Kraus guy is insufferable. He has almost nothing interesting to say.
Krauss again
Always
Suttree🚁🛸🛹🫛
Yes
*_powerhouse!!_* 💪
Ayeee!
Bottomless curiosity no exclamation point needed.
It’s ironic that only a few years have passed and many of claims made here seem questionable or have been proven to be false (e.g. the amount of admixture of Neanderthal genes). So much for the absolutism of science.
Is this Mary's husband?
I appreciate both of these guys but man this convo comes off as so cringe to me.
All this talk about not caring about the survival of our species while talking about how amazing our species is.
The host makes a comment about how computers (our creations) will somehow be the big leap in evolution (which is a really silly thing to say) and then later says that maybe we'd be better without our culture... We'll then there could be no supposed great evolutionary leap in our creations.
This just comes off as a pissing contest on who can be the most unfeeling and above being human.
So childlike he sounds when he tries to wax on science 😂😂😂Herzog interrupting Krauss with scientific musings
Two prople too many on this panel😊
Hey Krauss, maybe quiet down around the smart people. You don’t have much to add.
Boo Krause, boooo.
intro too long, the people who come to watch this dont need it, sorry, I just hate intros
I can listen to Herzog talk all they long. But he is a lousy reader.
sickening propaganda.
lol
morbid curio makes me ask: sickening propaganda for what? and by whom?
About what? Fuckin cave paintings?
You should only use words you at least have a vague grasp on the meanings of....
This is great, its just very unfortunate Ira Glass sounded often like an anxious man looking at his watch. When you have three great minds like this together, why on earth would you not let the conversation unfold naturally and freely, instead of frantically interrupting it at times, and then editing it for time later on?
This is why radio is dead