Simon Jordan & Stefan Borson DISAGREE Over Whether Man City Will Choose To Settle With The PL 😱💰

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  • Simon Jordan and Stefan Borson discuss whether Manchester City are likely to come to a financial settlement with the Premier League over their Financial Fair Play charges.
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  • @MoGate-yi3gv
    @MoGate-yi3gv 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +115

    Settlement undermines the whole system.
    And the money just magically disappears

    • @gy6078
      @gy6078 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I’d say it’s pretty fair when they have failed to do their job the past 20 years when they let Abramovich into the Premier League

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      How? Settlements are part of litigation.

    • @raymondcochrane8617
      @raymondcochrane8617 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ha ha . What money. You're wrong in your thinking as usual. There's no reason why city will settle because they want nothing more than to clear their name and reputation to make sure there's no avenue left available for the premier league to to start yet another vendetta and give idiots like you the opportunity to spew more uneducated misinformation.

    • @chucky7826
      @chucky7826 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@russellward4624 yes but regarding ffp, it makes an absolute joke of the system, if you can break the financial rules and then buy your way out of the consequences with the same wealth they have been using to cheat in the first place

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@chucky7826 how did you detrmine they broke the rules? A settlement is a way to assure the party gets some punishment instead of no punishment. And it assures the other party not getting an undeserving punishment. Innocent people are found guilty all the time.

  • @paulm3805
    @paulm3805 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +86

    Martin O'Neill's been on the botox

    • @paulhooley9638
      @paulhooley9638 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Brilliant 😂

    • @southlondonmonkey
      @southlondonmonkey 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ancient1946 Duh OBVIOUSLY missed the joke

    • @MrMoneyLong
      @MrMoneyLong 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@southlondonmonkeywhen you take some people out , you have to take them back in again.

    • @paulhooley9638
      @paulhooley9638 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ancient1946
      Wakey wakey 😂😂😂

    • @chrisellison1061
      @chrisellison1061 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ancient1946Jesus Christ mate 😭

  • @theo9372
    @theo9372 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +149

    Mark my words, this wont be city settling with the prem. It will be the prem settling with city.

    • @MarkRyan-zp7us
      @MarkRyan-zp7us 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      City should take them to the cleaners.

    • @MrJones895
      @MrJones895 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All bullshit city will get a fine for none compliance but that’s with eufa not the prem

    • @kippaxstreeter
      @kippaxstreeter 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      And they will. Then move onto to other certain individuals.

    • @Back2Brick-Ben
      @Back2Brick-Ben 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Surely this is Evertons fault

    • @Mancunianblue
      @Mancunianblue 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Back2Brick-Benno it’s Sadiq Khans or Meghan Markle.

  • @stevelonmo9495
    @stevelonmo9495 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Thought it was quite amusing when Jordan interrupted Borson to lecture him about City's charges being related to potential fraud and false accounting over a number of years, when it was Stefan Borson himself who highlighted this to Jordan a few weeks ago, along with the fact that, if true, this would have to involve multiple third parties (sponsors, independent auditors etc) - with the kicker that it would therefore be very difficult to prove such a serious conspiracy.

    • @willlloyd9480
      @willlloyd9480 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I’m guessing you are a city fan ?

    • @madeinengland9488
      @madeinengland9488 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@willlloyd9480we don’t have fans

    • @stevelonmo9495
      @stevelonmo9495 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@willlloyd9480 I'm guessing you're not.

    • @terryjames9535
      @terryjames9535 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I am , it was funny

  • @DominoEffect2528
    @DominoEffect2528 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +94

    If the premier league settles. The fall out would be massive with 19 other Premier league clubs asking for answers

    • @omatseyeugen5697
      @omatseyeugen5697 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      What would they do exactly?

    • @thedean4431
      @thedean4431 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@omatseyeugen5697 sweet f all

    • @shamus3477
      @shamus3477 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@omatseyeugen5697stop the league from being played

    • @DTM93
      @DTM93 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@omatseyeugen5697 They could easily pull out take their ball and go home like they did before when they made the Premier League after leaving the Football League.
      They may stand up against them and say unless Man City face justfied punishments we won't be playing any further games.
      The other route could be to take them to the sporting courts there is options the Premier League bosses aren't the top and pinnacle of English football.
      They aren't judge jury and executioner if most clubs revolt against them they'll have to change and change quickly to save their league.

    • @LeominsterFC
      @LeominsterFC 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@DTM93You just typed three paragraphs and don’t have a single clue what you’re talking about. The case is no longer in the PL’s hands already. If you seriously think the clubs will “band together and refuse to play” you’re living in a fantasy land.

  • @RFCDAY
    @RFCDAY 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Simon may get his day in court with the way he talks about City over the last two years.

    • @fruittwist4665
      @fruittwist4665 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But how!? Man city have been charged in a civil lawsuit. It's NOT defamation to state and speak or bring up the point that they been charged...it isn't defamation by any stretch. Many city can't hand out cease and assist when its quite clearly that they have been charged by Th EPL..uz it's true.

  • @RSLang919
    @RSLang919 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    I'm sure Everton and forest are gnna really be pleased with a settlement. City settle for 115 charges, they say there not guillty of. and Everton and forest get points deductions for something they admitted to? If this happens, premier league loses all credibility anyway!

    • @mjgwindowcleaning3699
      @mjgwindowcleaning3699 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep it shows that the Premier League has no teeth if it can’t prove that Manchester City are guilty or not it does obviously race suspicion. Man City have refused to give any evidence as they been legally advised that they are every right entitled not to so it comes down to the Premier League having to try and prove that Manchester City, are guilty. This is a whole cat of fish compared to Nottingham Forest and Everton.

    • @rakimrobinsonMCFC
      @rakimrobinsonMCFC 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Is it City settling with the league or the league settling with City. The league embarrassed themselves when they brought these charges against City. City have never settled on anything, ever.

    • @RSLang919
      @RSLang919 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Takes 2 to tango

    • @Gdatshim
      @Gdatshim 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@RSLang919 you sound clueless....so if a cop pulls you over suspecting drunk driving and you do the test and are cleared, your at fault also WTF

    • @thedean4431
      @thedean4431 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rakimrobinsonMCFC it wont be settled the premier league will go bankrupt and the super league will start you dont mess with trillionaires

  • @mikee7406
    @mikee7406 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    If guilty the sanction must not be financial. Money is nothing to the city ownership.

    • @Marais-cu3vo
      @Marais-cu3vo 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Their crime is that they spent as much as Arsenal and Man United. Oh, the horror.

    • @leighhudson9279
      @leighhudson9279 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      And what if they are found not guilty? What is the punishment for the premier league, some of the other clubs and the millions of little Hitlers that are running around with zero knowledge base demanding punishment… what happens to all of them?

    • @Ramps-rc9iy
      @Ramps-rc9iy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Marais-cu3voWow you actually think this is what it’s all about, the cheats have been cooking the books for years and the fact that there legal team have constantly put obstacles in the way to postpone it going to court speaks volumes, if they aren’t guilty they would have had this case go to court already to clear there name, you lot are deluded.

    • @kevdog5043
      @kevdog5043 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Marais-cu3votheir crime is that they’re cheating scum

    • @thor8419
      @thor8419 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Marais-cu3vo Are you stupid? they have been charged with bloating their profits.

  • @kennybadejo625
    @kennybadejo625 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Notice how Stefan always seems somewhat coy on CIty's case, but quite "matter of fact" on other clubs? Now advocating financial resolution not a form of punishment for them.

    • @CTRLALTNUKE
      @CTRLALTNUKE 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Because one is a fraud (subjective) case and one is overspend (numerical). The City charges are criminal in nature so it's opaque and grey (coy).

    • @leighhudson9279
      @leighhudson9279 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      No…. He said that that ship had sailed, it might have suited both parties mutually to do that but it's gone to far and that the premier league would be less damaged now to lose the case than to settle. You literally made your version up to suit your own narrative

    • @Gdatshim
      @Gdatshim 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      do your research he said in a interview before the PL has not said what the exact charges are in detail where as all the other clubs are saying yes we are guilty

  • @AlbertEinstein-mp3mb
    @AlbertEinstein-mp3mb 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I'm a lawyer and I can tell you Simon Jordan doesn't really have a clue what he's talking about. There's only so much money you can spend on a legal case before you quickly get into diminishing returns. From that perspective there is clear equality of arms.

    • @conorhayes9567
      @conorhayes9567 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      U r a lawyer and are we supposed to believe someone who lies and manipulates poorer people for a living

    • @AlbertEinstein-mp3mb
      @AlbertEinstein-mp3mb 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@conorhayes9567 All my clients and opponents are large companies. I don't deal with poor people. Also, if what you say is true and I'll do anything to get ahead, wouldn't I be saying spend all you can - because that would make me richer. But I'm saying don't spend so much, which is against my interest! Think my friend.

    • @iniester6724
      @iniester6724 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@conorhayes9567you’re as clueless as Simon on lawyers!

  • @creasicle
    @creasicle 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    There's also the issue of reputational damage to the individuals implicated. It's hard to see City settling.

    • @Triple_X_X
      @Triple_X_X 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Let me tell you, nobody even knows of City's supposed charges nor even cares outside England..Only Prem rivals want to hang onto that 😂😂😂

    • @Triple_X_X
      @Triple_X_X 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@Whooooooaaamaaan small club nobody cares about? Keep on Deluding yourself just to feel relevant 😂😂😂
      City is well known in Africa, America and most in Asia too ... Escaping from reality with teenage little jab jokes won't help you 😂😂😂

    • @creasicle
      @creasicle 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@Triple_X_Xwow you know every football fan in the whole world. Impressive!

    • @Ramps-rc9iy
      @Ramps-rc9iy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Whooooooaaamaaan🤣 perfect response absolutely perfect.

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ​@Whooooooaaamaaan if nobody cares about City why is all the talk about City? When they talk about Everton the comments is full of "what about City?". When they talk about Forrest its "what about City?". When they talk about LCFC they ask "what about City?".

  • @danielwang1615
    @danielwang1615 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

    Simon Jordan is such a prick. Stefan is saying both sides are well represented. EPL has high priced lawyers and so does Manchester City. What is Simon waffling about?

    • @solskjaer1195
      @solskjaer1195 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because he's a City fan and knows this is absolute bullshit and wants his Tinpot club to get off Scot free.

    • @alexalexalex797
      @alexalexalex797 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      “No no, um um um, man city bad, bad, if not found guilty its um um um money! Yes, evil money! Vs the poor pro-bono PL lawyers.”😂

    • @Danimal28
      @Danimal28 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Easily- cases take time, the premier league will run out of money far quicker than city

    • @kevinmurphy1880
      @kevinmurphy1880 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Danimal28the premier league isn’t ever conceivably going to run out of money to pay legal representatives they already likely have on retainer. This is just simply untrue.

    • @CHILLIFLAMES
      @CHILLIFLAMES 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, the Premier league spent over 20m on legal fees last year. Sure they can up that if needed ​@kevinmurphy1880

  • @fromahappy5536
    @fromahappy5536 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    According to Simon no team is bigger than the league......then again, according to Simon Man City is bigger than the league! What's wrong with this guy?

    • @KindaWheezy
      @KindaWheezy 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As a team, no team is bigger than the whole league. You must abide the rules the league sets and must follow the the guidance given. However, financially, Man City have a nation state to back them up and the prem have a large, but not nation size pot to draw from.

    • @fromahappy5536
      @fromahappy5536 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KindaWheezy so are you saying Man City has the capacity to bully the Premier League? You can't act big and small at the same time

  • @whyimsmarterthanyou
    @whyimsmarterthanyou 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Poor Simon. The lad is twisting himself into knots trying to craft a narrative that a Prem who settles has been bullied by City's capacity to lawyer-up. By all means, Simon, ignore an inconvenient reality that a Prem who settles is indictive of said league not having the there-there to substantiate they allegations. If the Prem turtles after being so certain about their case . . . that is a harsh repudiation of their character and integrity as an organization. For shame, Prem. For shame. Pray for Simon, fam. Lad's going to be subject to some awful stick.

  • @SuperCityMCFC
    @SuperCityMCFC 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Is anyone following the pattern, the rules were made by our rivals, the rules were adjusted to ensure we failed, we defend ourselves and our lawyers are too good, now the money we spend on lawyers should be counted towards FFP....that's what Simon hinted at. The entire thing is manufactured and City will clear their name.

    • @adammohamed..
      @adammohamed.. 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Maybe because your rivals are not a nation state , which to be fair Newcastle is as well and 3 times as big as City. The Prem has got themselves in a mess, 1st with Abramovich , then the leveraged buyout at United and finally the one two punch of unlimited oil money. This is on the PREMIER LEAGUE and we need an independent regulator to sort this out. The league cant keep its hand out the cookie jar and seem to be obsessed with these unsaved characters that couldn’t care less about our clubs. These are OUR clubs not billionaires and unlike Germany we dont have a say. Althgough we never win , Levy at Spurs simply wont risk our finacial future trying to compete. I just hope we dont end up with a yank like Chelsea. How do you spend a billion and end mid table.

    • @SuperCityMCFC
      @SuperCityMCFC 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@adammohamed.. Utter nonsense...stopped reading at Newcastle are bigger than City haha 😂

    • @adammohamed..
      @adammohamed.. 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SuperCityMCFC Saudi are at least 3 times more wealthy than the emirates, ( of which you are owned by the biggest of the 7 Emirates )
      Saudi have $1 trillion invested in America alone.

    • @SuperCityMCFC
      @SuperCityMCFC 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@adammohamed.. Irrelevant if you can't spend it

    • @AlexSmith-bi9yf
      @AlexSmith-bi9yf 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Did your rivals pay Mancini from a private bank ?

  • @bigbadbluenoserfc
    @bigbadbluenoserfc 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    it really is obvious when simon is debating someone who knows his stuff in his industry
    was the same with hearn in boxing, simon is really easy to tell when hes out his depth and its happening more and more these days

    • @joehart3826
      @joehart3826 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He is still broadly a quality presenter if not the best he ain't perfect though

    • @OfficialFA
      @OfficialFA 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Unfortunately, his head is too far up his own ass...

  • @dirtygunslinger9835
    @dirtygunslinger9835 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I think, if they settle with Man City, the other 19 clubs should pull out of the competition immediately

    • @IanDavis-fs8dd
      @IanDavis-fs8dd 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      You don't even know what they have or haven't done.

    • @dirtygunslinger9835
      @dirtygunslinger9835 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@IanDavis-fs8dd I’m not claiming to know

  • @baserakoodie554
    @baserakoodie554 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I think Simon does not understand the legal process involved. Both sides have able lawyers ,some getting paid ridiculous amounts.The fact is that some of the best young sport lawyers are not even involved in this case. In the 21st century you will find many many lawyers who have experience and knowledge of sports law. The case will be won or loss on the facts and evidence presented, not on which lawyers are employed.
    Thanks.

    • @kevinmurphy1880
      @kevinmurphy1880 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Most sensible comment I’ve seen so far. No support from me for city here, but to assume they’ve been able to lopsidedly spend their way into winning a legal battle based on the skill of their representatives is beyond naive.

  • @asiam9788
    @asiam9788 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    PL should never contemplate a settlement, truth needs to be upheld and if guilty proper punishment given…example made, so that no one ever tries to UNDERMINE the best league in the world!

  • @GermanChickenwing
    @GermanChickenwing 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    So the pl changed a team 115 times but are now afraid to go on with the case because money will be lost? Wtf? They should have known that from start, who they are up against, right?

    • @Pa-pb6kb
      @Pa-pb6kb 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Whatever happens the pl must not back down, crowdfund if necessary

    • @GermanChickenwing
      @GermanChickenwing 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Pa-pb6kbAnd if the pl lose?

    • @Pa-pb6kb
      @Pa-pb6kb 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@GermanChickenwing do you think justice should be dictated by whether you can intimidate one of the parties involved? If they lose they lose

    • @GermanChickenwing
      @GermanChickenwing 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Pa-pb6kb How can City do that with money? The pl are the once changing City not the other way around

    • @DavidRegaL-lw5xz
      @DavidRegaL-lw5xz 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@GermanChickenwingthe bindippers will probably help crowdfund them, that's if they can get a job 😂

  • @howardhasan576
    @howardhasan576 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    Simon has completely missed the point

    • @Bewar3them00n
      @Bewar3them00n 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Difficult when your wearing such hateful blinkers

    • @Sproles11
      @Sproles11 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s all he seems to do when it comes to this stuff

    • @Bluearmy76
      @Bluearmy76 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ancient1946so have you 😂

  • @thor8419
    @thor8419 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    They've said it could take 5-10 years to settle these 115 charges against City. A financial settlement is definitely MOST LIKELY!

  • @pheelymontrendZ
    @pheelymontrendZ 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The premier will have to settle city for reputation damage and force to apologize live

  • @Abattoirville
    @Abattoirville 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why does Simon interrupt Steffan before he has a chance to reply?

  • @bradsays
    @bradsays 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I wonder how much Stefan Borson is getting paid by City to be their public spin doctor?

    • @Another_Dimension2024
      @Another_Dimension2024 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same amount as you for sucking boys off.

    • @visalvimal6968
      @visalvimal6968 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      how much is sky , bbc gets paid by red cartel clubs to br their propaganda machine to tarnish city?

    • @Sproles11
      @Sproles11 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He’s the only person that speaks fairly about City on this topic. He’s not even spinning anything

  • @albertmcmullen2669
    @albertmcmullen2669 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Jordan, can't stop talking and interrupting. He has to prove daily how clever and articulate he is. He fully beleves his words and statements are sacrosanct.

  • @gerainthopkins7576
    @gerainthopkins7576 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    as soon as Etihad airways goes on the stock market the whole case is gone and the Premier league is open to a huge settlement paid to City for dragging their name through the mud.

  • @kevanskelton9982
    @kevanskelton9982 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The legal fees are a red herring. Both parties, and any premier league club, have enough money to hire the top level of barristers and solicitors for as long as needed.

  • @B1G_Dave
    @B1G_Dave 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Asking an ex Man City financial advisor, about Man City's fraud, is like asking a thief about a stolen painting.

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      He has nothing to do with the current owners. He handled the sale to Thakshin Shiniwatra.

    • @samroberts6697
      @samroberts6697 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@russellward4624doesn’t suit the plastic agenda unfortunately Russell.
      Man City…..the excuse for everyone else’s clubs failings 😂

  • @singingthebluestv
    @singingthebluestv 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Translation. Let us try and make out that if city are cleared its because of the money available. Rubbish

  • @user-sy4el9me1z
    @user-sy4el9me1z 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Why do they invite Stefan, he is clearly on City payroll

    • @nickchivers9029
      @nickchivers9029 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      What evidence do you have of this?

    • @bluemoon1716
      @bluemoon1716 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Because he doesn't indulge in the smear campaign? Take your hate blinkers off

    • @user-sy4el9me1z
      @user-sy4el9me1z 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bluemoon1716 I understand your point, however to me he defends City all the time but not any other club. Just my opinion, City only guilty when proven so

    • @Ramm111
      @Ramm111 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@user-sy4el9me1zThat's because those other clubs u're referring to have already admitted to their guilt or have denied any wrong doing and were found to be guilty of those charges...
      City on the the other hand continue to maintain their innocence and so far the Premier League has yet to provide enough evidence to actually convict City for those charges

    • @Sproles11
      @Sproles11 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-sy4el9me1z I wouldn’t say that he defends City. He just speaks about City and the entire situation impartially and based on the facts available. Nobody else is willing to do that, so it comes off as if he is defending the club

  • @adetayoadesola7306
    @adetayoadesola7306 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Simon's smirk when Stefan said they are commercial people haha

    • @leighhudson9279
      @leighhudson9279 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      The problem is, Simon is too emotional about it. Stefan talks from the perspective of cold hard facts and is completely emotionless about it. Simon wants it to be true with all his heart and he can't keep that emotion out of his language and behaviour.

    • @shamus3477
      @shamus3477 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      ​​@@leighhudson9279if it wasn't for time frame technicality than city would have been banned from Europe. Obviously some sort of truth to it

    • @leighhudson9279
      @leighhudson9279 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@shamus3477 that's completely wrong. You are just regurgitating the same uninformed nonsense that the fan on the street believed to be true because of the way the media chose to report it. The court papers are there to be read. Most of the evidence was not time barred and all were deemed to be insufficient evidence. The time-barring is a pink elephant!

    • @leighhudson9279
      @leighhudson9279 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@shamus3477 that's just not correct. Go and read the court papers. The majority of evidence was not time-barred but was found to be insufficient. The minority was time barred but was noted in the court papers that it was considered no more on favour of uefas case than the rest of it. Please read the court papers before trying to talk about it as a matter of knowledge.

    • @Seannn1
      @Seannn1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@shamus3477 God you are an absolute moron

  • @dandrews.89
    @dandrews.89 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Simon is bang on, City will bury the Premier League in legal fees if they can. It’s fucked

    • @Sproles11
      @Sproles11 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That simply isn’t a possibility here

  • @rj6657
    @rj6657 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Lost all credibility this bloke S.B

    • @Gdatshim
      @Gdatshim 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      how so?

    • @nickchivers9029
      @nickchivers9029 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@Gdatshim probably said something OP doesnt agree with.

  • @kindo4703
    @kindo4703 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The 115 case has become a liability for the Premier League, because they failed to do their due diligence💀

  • @me4374
    @me4374 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They’ve got to get relegation and titles stripped, otherwise the game has lost all credibility. 115 FC are just pure corruption

  • @peptalk7658
    @peptalk7658 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The PL is looking to settle, not MC. Let's get that straight. They can't prove the slanderous charges they brought out of pressure from the big clubs and are rightfully scared of being sued for defamation.

    • @Chris-oz9qx
      @Chris-oz9qx 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      115 charges FC.

    • @broman1429
      @broman1429 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes most people are in denial and just want city to be punished 😂😂

  • @khemchanpersaud6739
    @khemchanpersaud6739 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    "And there's no corruption, of course" lmao...

    • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
      @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      - LiVARpool caught Hacking
      - LiVARpool never called Hackers FC
      - City found Not Guilty in Court
      - City regardless are called Cheats?🤣

  • @tast7017
    @tast7017 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Jordan says he’s got no agenda against city then goes on to speak like they’re definitely guilty

  • @OGMrDude
    @OGMrDude 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why do you @talksport invite a lobbyist like Borson and present him like some objective expert??

  • @glenngibbions
    @glenngibbions 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Jordan being a knob as per usual........zzzzzz

  • @chris-kn4ll
    @chris-kn4ll 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    “Not because I want one” Simon referring to not wanting a settlement. There you have it folks. Simon confirming he doesn’t want Man City escaping punishment.

    • @frasierfreak92
      @frasierfreak92 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Nobody should want a settlement. If rules have been broken, there should be punishments. Simple.

    • @chris-kn4ll
      @chris-kn4ll 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@frasierfreak92 and if rules haven’t been broken then equally there should be punishment. Punishment for all the media propaganda and misinformation and witch-hunt against Manchester City

    • @cheesybellend6842
      @cheesybellend6842 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Simon Jordan and everyone who isn’t a city fan , bravo sir jordan

    • @chris-kn4ll
      @chris-kn4ll 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@frasierfreak92 and if the rules haven’t been broken, there should be equal punishment to anyone else involved in this which hunt against Man City

  • @salkel8617
    @salkel8617 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    If premier league had evidence against city it wouldn't take so much time ! That's tell you a volume. Simon don't want to hear the truth!

    • @Ramps-rc9iy
      @Ramps-rc9iy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Get it right, it’s the cheats lawyers that have stalled it from going to court, why would they do this if your lot aren’t guilty.

    • @Samivermusic
      @Samivermusic 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you take away the time spent in legal hearings between the PL and city it's not been that long considering the number of years the allegations relate to.

    • @fordcass4325
      @fordcass4325 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How many charges to get through can't wait for the result

    • @Chris-oz9qx
      @Chris-oz9qx 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The PL clearly does have evidence if it's charged them 115 times. 😂😂

    • @broman1429
      @broman1429 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Chris-oz9qxdoesn't work like that cause they are still looking for the so called evidence

  • @GamingExplorerMike
    @GamingExplorerMike 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    give premier league a load of money and it all goes away

  • @kontomylitis
    @kontomylitis 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    You guys have no topic. Slow news day. City won't settle. They're innocent

    • @rickoneillable
      @rickoneillable 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      how do you know they;re innocent

    • @madeinengland9488
      @madeinengland9488 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rickoneillableinnocent until proven guilty that’s how

  • @user-te1hi9rx7b
    @user-te1hi9rx7b 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    VAR and corruption in the Premier League has ruined football. They can shove it-their 'greed is good' ethos is obscene. You can keep it- i would rather watch non-league football and womens football. More skill, more honesty, more players playing for the love of the game in their local communities

    • @creasicle
      @creasicle 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      If the Premier League agree to settle for a financial sum I will fully get behind your comment but I think FIFA have to set the standard. As Simon likes to say the fish rots from the head down. When FIFA are handing World Cups to warmongering, murdering megalomaniacs it's hard to ask the leagues beneath them to set a standard of irreproachable virtue.

    • @ConnieStevens7
      @ConnieStevens7 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      💯💯 agree with both of u! This is a joke now, it can’t go on any longer

    • @mariechu6123
      @mariechu6123 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You lost an element of support with the frankly ridiculous "more skill" bit. Don' be silly.

    • @user-te1hi9rx7b
      @user-te1hi9rx7b 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mariechu6123 come back with something remotely intelligent to add when you have rewatched the WOMENS EUROS AND WOMENS WORLD CUP-HIGH SKILL ON DISPLAY.

    • @mariechu6123
      @mariechu6123 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-te1hi9rx7b I assume you are joking . Hilarious nonsense.

  • @timcallcott2450
    @timcallcott2450 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why do they keep getting this Richard Nixon lookalike on?

  • @jamespillar663
    @jamespillar663 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why do they continually bring on a bloke who used to work as a financial adviser to Citeh' to talk about this?

  • @1159geoff
    @1159geoff 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    One that knows what he's talking about and Simon Jordan.

  • @rayjaffer7050
    @rayjaffer7050 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Stefan is still in the pocket of City and he’s very arrogant to boot

  • @rgaskell6099
    @rgaskell6099 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Jordan interrupts all the time when he’s losing the argument

  • @phillydavison
    @phillydavison 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If they don't face any consequences for their actions given what the league has done to Everton and Notts Forrest then what is the point anymore.

  • @desmo998rr
    @desmo998rr 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Simon does love a soapbox

  • @petuser1
    @petuser1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    a "cease and desist notice " notice is issued knowing your in a strong position

  • @bensmit1821
    @bensmit1821 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They can’t settle out of Court! It undermines the integrity of the whole League! If they get away with this! I don’t even know where to start!!!

  • @EnlightenedTurtle
    @EnlightenedTurtle 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    How can they settle when they broke the rules.

    • @Another_Dimension2024
      @Another_Dimension2024 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Broke what rules... Please explain.

    • @watsoncrick3210
      @watsoncrick3210 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Turtle rules 😂​@@Another_Dimension2024

  • @b.tedley2586
    @b.tedley2586 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Why didn't they settle with Everton and Forest

    • @17Deano98
      @17Deano98 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Because unlike City, Everton and Forest are clubs with integrity who accepted the charges rather than disputing them

    • @Another_Dimension2024
      @Another_Dimension2024 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@17Deano98😂No they didn't. They both appealed their charges. 🤡

    • @bluemoon1716
      @bluemoon1716 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Because they admitted guilt. City have not. Pretty easy to understand

    • @b.tedley2586
      @b.tedley2586 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bluemoon1716 Not really. If you admit guilt you should be treated more leniently. Just like the way Tonali and Toney are being handled differently. City, if they are trying to settle then they have equally admitted to some wrongdoing and should face the same wrath... However, the FA is the original godfather of corruption, and city have enough money

    • @Another_Dimension2024
      @Another_Dimension2024 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@b.tedley2586 Another clueless 🤡

  • @Triple_X_X
    @Triple_X_X 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The right question is whether Pep will choose to settle with PL and the answer is absolutely NO!!
    Pep is a greedy serial winner..He wants to win everything

    • @multipl3
      @multipl3 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Wont be down to pep to 'settle'

    • @CTRLALTNUKE
      @CTRLALTNUKE 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@multipl3 Pep manages all the accounts receivable and payable through Salesforce before he takes training every day.

    • @halldd
      @halldd 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fraudiola

    • @theo9372
      @theo9372 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The f would it have to do with pep, hes just the manager not the ceo.

  • @carl3681
    @carl3681 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The prem will be losing sleep hoping City settle with them ...they are slowly drowning.

  • @IVII-DESIGN
    @IVII-DESIGN 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've been saying for a while now, man city will beat this

  • @mkkravist11
    @mkkravist11 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A settlement to 115 but not to anyone else? And that’s NOT anything to do with 115 being more powerful, intimidating and richer than the league, UEFA etc??
    It’s smelling like a stitch up, boys. All other clubs should refuse the punishments pending the 115 outcome.
    Then we’ll see what’s what.

  • @wilddragon78
    @wilddragon78 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Borson is an absolute clown to think City won’t have a clear advantage with the resources they have. 😒

  • @stephentomlinson1970
    @stephentomlinson1970 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The problem for me is if they settle then surely they have to with any other club that’s does what they have. It’s certainly not fair on the clubs that have suffered this season and I care more the supporters then the clubs involved.

    • @LeominsterFC
      @LeominsterFC 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Care more about having a functioning brain. Everton and Forest admitted to what their charge was. City have 115 charges and deny all of them. Pretty self explanatory why the first two were handled quickly the the latter is still ongoing.

    • @Sproles11
      @Sproles11 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Settling with one club does not mean they have to settle with others. And considering the situations are completely different, that logic makes no sense

  • @21Cul21
    @21Cul21 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    When did Stefan work for Man City?

    • @theo9372
      @theo9372 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Before the sheikh talkover, he helped in city being sold to the ex thai prime minister. He had nothing to do with the sheikh buyout.

    • @21Cul21
      @21Cul21 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @theo9372 No, I was just asking the question as I did not know thanks for giving me the information

    • @AnthonyODOnnell-tt8gh
      @AnthonyODOnnell-tt8gh 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He's a man 115 city fan , mate...

    • @Mancunianblue
      @Mancunianblue 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AnthonyODOnnell-tt8gh😴

  • @TimG2553
    @TimG2553 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think for the good of the game settling would be a bad idea if they are proven to have broken the rules then they should be punished heavily as it sets the wrong precedent

  • @GermanChickenwing
    @GermanChickenwing 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If this is true then the pl have failed.. How can you changed someone 115 time and then looking for settlement? What type of settlement are they even thinking of? Pay City some money?

    • @neilfarricker8632
      @neilfarricker8632 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      because they have zero evidence to win the case

    • @CTRLALTNUKE
      @CTRLALTNUKE 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      PL are always making errors.

    • @Ramps-rc9iy
      @Ramps-rc9iy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@neilfarricker8632No that’s you’re opinion not a fact, big difference.

    • @neilfarricker8632
      @neilfarricker8632 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Ramps-rc9iy Same as UEFA who had no evidence either. That's a fact for you

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@Ramps-rc9iywhat's the evidence then?

  • @richarddenton699
    @richarddenton699 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a City fan I would find a 'settlement' unsatisfactory but the argument that City shouldn't want it because the whiff of suspicion would always remain is a nonsense one. This has become so tribal that even if City were to be cleared by the PL, UEAFA, CAS, the ECHR, The United Nations, the Pope and the Dali Lama those who want to believe will still believe ....... regardless of the evidence. There is no neutral 'court of public opinion' on this.

  • @shah.server
    @shah.server 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Simon looks almost desperate here.

  • @ducati916SPS
    @ducati916SPS 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In football as in Business he who has the deepest pockets Wins!!

  • @ALOKSINGH-gp9vv
    @ALOKSINGH-gp9vv 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If premier league don't have money
    Their owners " red cartel"could lend it to them

  • @judesterkyberneticka3598
    @judesterkyberneticka3598 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    one rule for city.

  • @kriswheeler5686
    @kriswheeler5686 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Smarmy lawyers doing shady things👊🏼
    So glad QPR got done all them years ago. We’ve almost finished paying off getting promoted

  • @TheMrClutchy
    @TheMrClutchy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    All this man does is give a fact based opinion and everyone acts like he’s a paid up city fan 😂

    • @solskjaer1195
      @solskjaer1195 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      He is a Man City fan though. Has been all his life too. He can't be objective on this.

    • @HC-np2hb
      @HC-np2hb 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@solskjaer1195 who can be objective on it? certainly not united, liverpool, arsenal fans etc.

    • @solskjaer1195
      @solskjaer1195 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HC-np2hb The PL can. Why would they pick on City for no reason? Viewing figures aren't down on the league. It doesn't make sense. City have been rumbled and they don't like it. That's all this is about. There's no way 115 charges can all be errors.

    • @djn1856
      @djn1856 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@solskjaer1195Who owns the premier league?

    • @dylanb.117
      @dylanb.117 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@solskjaer1195 guess which 2 clubs decided the head of the Premier League?

  • @gillie-monger3394
    @gillie-monger3394 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If the PL/FA settle with city i will positively campaign for a Super League because a settlement will be the death knell of English football as we know it.

  • @wayneshone3471
    @wayneshone3471 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They’ll get away with it 😂 you’ll see

  • @planetliquidful
    @planetliquidful 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Stefan Biased

  • @kadiummusic
    @kadiummusic 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Rules, are rules, are rules. If they've broken the rules throw the book at them. End of.

    • @SibongubukhoMangele-ek3hs
      @SibongubukhoMangele-ek3hs 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Does the premier league have the evidence to back it up and are the people who were working at city that time managers etc willing to testify against city ? 🤷 think about that mate

  • @redfire1094
    @redfire1094 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So they trying to say they could pay money to do as they like but other teams get points taken away hmmmm Shameless

  • @tbone2646
    @tbone2646 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Money truly does solve all problems

  • @RobElmahdy
    @RobElmahdy 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's like finding out the arm wrestling champion for the last four years has been using steroids and still letting him compete

  • @Gagsy10
    @Gagsy10 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    Why do talksport insist on getting in Borson, who's one goal it is to defend City?

    • @salkel8617
      @salkel8617 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

      He is defending the truth

    • @leighhudson9279
      @leighhudson9279 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      How is he defending city? He's just stating facts. It's not rich vs poor, neither side have a financial advantage because both can afford the highest quality councel. That's just a fact. He has always said, if city are found guilty, the punishment will be massive! But it's a big if!

    • @Ramps-rc9iy
      @Ramps-rc9iy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@leighhudson9279I think it’s a big if regarding you lot getting away with this, no smoke without fire.

    • @ben_jam
      @ben_jam 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Balance

    • @embody_your_awakening
      @embody_your_awakening 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Stefan is a huge city fan! I grew up with him

  • @fredjenner
    @fredjenner 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The concept of spending their way out of charges of overspending is a joke

  • @choysum
    @choysum 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does the settlement also involves compensating the other teams? Because it’s the other teams that suffer not the PL!

  • @beniwal.mayank
    @beniwal.mayank 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Settlement is the best way to go , 👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @ghettablkgffb
      @ghettablkgffb 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Points reduction and more . Can't just be a settlement

    • @cebu7743
      @cebu7743 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You must be a City fan 🤣

    • @linimcfc715
      @linimcfc715 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah for the prem. If I was City I'd take them to the cleaners.

  • @lfcspectre4335
    @lfcspectre4335 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sir Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊

  • @ashleymoore9063
    @ashleymoore9063 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I will always argue the opposite position no matter how insane that appears .Thanks Simon

  • @4857i
    @4857i 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If theres a financial settlement i am 100% behind FSG joining a super league with real madrid and barca and leaving the league immediately

    • @mrwho.4446
      @mrwho.4446 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      lol

  • @user-yj2od2od8m
    @user-yj2od2od8m 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Paste and repeat, for gods sake this guy is on every week and the same conversation happens. Wake up talksport and put something new on.

    • @embody_your_awakening
      @embody_your_awakening 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Stefan is about as entertaining as a rotting fish

  • @tomcrown9546
    @tomcrown9546 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Simon Jordan ruined that discussion with his constant interruptions and talking over Borsen. No point having an expert on if an amateur constantly talks over them. Jim needs to do his job and control the discussion.

  • @mattd5236
    @mattd5236 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Settlement will herald the end of the PL. Too many other clubs have had sanctions and penalties placed upon them to allow such a position to pass.

    • @LeominsterFC
      @LeominsterFC 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Moron, those other clubs admitted to their charge. Man City have 115 and deny all of them. Pretty easy to see why the first two have been handled quickly and the latter is still ongoing. But that doesn’t fit your narrative so carry on.

  • @Ruscococo1
    @Ruscococo1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man City need to give certain evidence which they won't give, they did it in the UEFA case and then put in a little info later on which meant it wasn't conclusive evidence. They will do the same and get charged for maybe one or two charges which will be a 6 point deduction. It means Forest and Everton are happy, its sort of obvious what will happen.

    • @Samivermusic
      @Samivermusic 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The UK courts ruled that man city had to provide information to the PL for the investigation and make enquiries of third parties. I am pretty sure I read in a legal journal they had complied with that ruling.

    • @Another_Dimension2024
      @Another_Dimension2024 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Another TH-cam lawyer 😂

  • @warofmankind
    @warofmankind 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I urge everyone to boycott the prem if they "settle" these charges... absolute stain on an already dying product

  • @KeanoR850
    @KeanoR850 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If they settle every premier league team should boycott every game involving the 115 club!!!

    • @madeinengland9488
      @madeinengland9488 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just give city the 3 points every week then lol good logic

  • @albertdeyi1541
    @albertdeyi1541 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Simon is talking shite PL is not broke they afford top lawyers, of course, this is a high-profile case City will get the best in class lawyers also. Simon stop shifting the goalposts

  • @stephengreen6683
    @stephengreen6683 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That chap should replace Simon

  • @Lotteeepotte
    @Lotteeepotte 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why cant they prove one of the 115 charges and take 5 points of city this season ? If they cant even prove one charge this whole thing is bs.

  • @x8dudtrackdaytoy
    @x8dudtrackdaytoy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Might as we scrap ffp if they are allowed to settle

  • @whoknew2273
    @whoknew2273 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    a fine means nothing to these people

    • @AAL-mu8ms
      @AAL-mu8ms 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      These people? What's your people made off then? Go on, tell me your club let me break it down and embarrass you

    • @whoknew2273
      @whoknew2273 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AAL-mu8ms yes John you break it down lol

    • @thedean4431
      @thedean4431 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      come on mate who do you support

    • @zachy7461
      @zachy7461 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@AAL-mu8msyour poor grammar and overall use of the English language is genuinely embarrassing.

    • @John-cj9er
      @John-cj9er 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AAL-mu8mswhat’s the club he supports got to do with it? The state of Abu Dhabi have ridiculous wealth, he’s right a fine would mean nothing to them. Only points deductions or a transfer ban would hurt

  • @suvinmicheal
    @suvinmicheal 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Lets not forget the beautiful football they played

  • @willstera6424
    @willstera6424 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The chap mentioning legal fees is talking complete sense - maximum spend is £5 to £10 million, Simon Jordan comments about reputational damage is absolute rubbish - if City get a damaged reputation clashes with Jordan's idiotic statements IE on one hand they have limitless funds but our worried about reputation - put it this way I do not think anything less of Everton or Forest for their breaches. The fans are still the fans and the teams are still the teams.