I got a pair from the supply house and the teeth between the different wire sizes were tweaked after the first day causing closing issues. Thought maybe I had a bad pair so they exchanged them and the same thing happened. I’ll stick with my Knipex strippers.
Bro I’ve been trying to put electricians on to these Ideal 45-113’s for a cool minute. I bought mine from Bee’s lighting right when they first came out. Ideal makes good stuff, people sleep on it. Great video.
I have both of these pliers (knipex and ideal). Both are great pliers and they work great for what they are and money spent. It means less tools in the tool kit or pouch.
Great point and great video. I just purchased these from amazon. They’re $40 shipped free, as an illusion that it’s free shipping. I couldn’t find a better grand total, so $40 is it at this point.
As someone that pre twists, I was very disappointed with knipex. I was hoping this would be a replacement for my linemen’s in my pouches when making up floors worth of joints. Unfortunately, it’s just 2-3 mm too narrow. They are only good for 2 maybe 3 wire joints. The biggest selling point for the knipex is the threadless cutting on the bolts. Idk why more companies don’t include stranded 10 on their cutters either.
I used the knipex for a long time. They are great but I switched to the southwire s5n1 for $25 it’s hard to beat. Less features but feels really good and opens wide.
Hmmmmm…… ideal was handing these out at my trade school when they visited last year. Haven’t really been using them as I really enjoy my Milwaukee needle nose strippers. usually you end up getting what you pay for (which in this case I payed nothing), but after watching your video they seem a little more appealing than they did before. I guess I need to try these out for a couple weeks in my commercial lab to see which I prefer before getting back into the field this summer. Thanks for probing my interest with your video!
I have the same Knipex and mine has developed a bit of rust fairly quick, but other than that I really enjoy using it and everything is much easy and faster compared to anything else I've used so far.
I’ve been on the fence about the Knipex forge strippers but not going to 10 stranded has been the thing that has steered me away as of now, I end up just using my lineman’s
So i didn't buy the knipex due to the lack of 10 stranded. I just got them a few days ago, and 12 and 14 stranded just does not strip at all. On thhn It'll be perfect on one side, and the other side won't even have any cut/mark on them. So, quite literally, i am having to rip half the insulation + nylon coating off. I feel like my pair is defective, but this has been my experience with other forged strippers. I have to use all my might to strip 12 with these and the milwaukees. Idk what's going on but my ideal reflex are staying for now.
Ballistol is great, a bit expensive but worth it especially if you use a sure shot refillable aerosol sprayer with a bulk size of Ballistol that really offsets the cost, hickok45 is always recommending Ballistol & he turned me onto it 4 or 5 years ago and now on any ppe that goes pew that’s all I use
@@americanelectrician lmao no I must have been editing the message because that’s what it looks like I said, ballistol has a weird smell itself imo lol if you use andthing like that made of rubber use silicone lubricant it’s better for them and doesn’t dry them out (it. Also keep your car doors and locks from freezing. If you spray it on the lock and on the weather, strip seal before a heavy snow, works well ) but I just meant that’s all I use on guns because it actually does a pretty good job cleaning, lubricating and protecting so it kind of works like a clp imo but the ballistol is all I use for cleaning etc aside from that all I use is some grease similar to the golden copper grease that the Glock factory lubricates their slides etc with but it’s just essentially a copper antiseize
I prefer a wide tip on my forged strippers, because I carry them instead of a linesman's pliers. Really. I don't need to pre-twist wires because I don't use wire nuts any more (Wagos for the win!) but I'm in industrial so I use 99% stranded wire, and I often need to 'comb' the end of an existing wire for a re-connect after replacing a contactor or whatever, and I used to use my linesman's pliers for that, but now that I carry the 7" Milwaukee forged strippers I have my 'silver bullet'. If there is something better out there then I will switch, but for my needs I carry the 7" Milwaukee forged strippers and a pair of actual needle-nose pliers (not just long-nose) for control work where I need to get a wire back into a terminal strip where my sausage fingers won't fit. So, for me, a 'regular long nose' plier isn't small enough to be as useful a needle-nose, and a regular long-nose isn't as useful as a wide nose. Instead of being a goldilocks situation it's not as useful for either. Everybody needs different tools for their own work, and I'm always watching videos like this to see if there is something that I might like better. I desperately need at least #18 to #10 stranded stripper, and Milwaukee actually does #20 to #10. Good stuff. The Milwaukee's aren't perfect, so I'm still looking for something better, but so far they are the best that I have found for me with my work.
I dislike pliers that don't have a spring. They are far more manageable than without. I have pliers without springs and they are so much harder to use.
Hey bro good video as always!! I wanted to ask about your studio set up there!! What camera is it that you use and what lighting accessories? Thanks for the feedback keep up the good work and God bless
Bro thank you! My video set up The camera: amzn.to/3vBagaC The lens: amzn.to/420hWiC The mic: amzn.to/420hXmG Lighting isn’t anything special. You just have to play with it and know your camera settings
I had the romex stripper version and gave it away after one day! I know everyone has different needs but the quality wasn't there for me. I do wonder what the country of origin is on thoes ideals because if it's Taiwan they look eerily similar to milwaukee even if ideals came out before them. They could be the same oem from Taiwan. It's funny I want alot ofcwhat you don't want I use knipex instalation pliers since I do mostly residential. I do want spring loaded but the only model of instalation pliers with is European version in chrome and tends to knick wires. Just sharing my experiences and I'll put my hands on them in my local platt but I have a hard time thinking a generic Taiwan oem would beat a German masterpiece (unless it's a BMW lol)
So the installation pliers are great but they don’t have the right sizes for commercial guys. 12 stranded is a necessity. I had the Romex version as well and I didn’t love them the way I do this style of plier
Loved my Knipex strippers have used my buddies ideals and just wasn’t the biggest fan I use a lot of other ideal tools Forsure no hate on ideal. Just the longevity isn’t there on the ideals usually
I have the Knipex VDE european version, no spring, with the long and thin nose, i like them, but they don't twist wire good and at times i find them too long for the job and if the cable is braided and a bit old they don't strip good.
For an all around Wire Cutter, Striper and Crimp Tool, nothing bets the discontinued Vaco 1963 Tool, for Insulated Terminals. I think the Vaco Tool for Un-insulated terminals is the Vaco 1916. BTW, If you are building UL Cabinets, you need a tool that strips wire, and will never nick the wires. Also a Heavy Duty, Ratchet type Crimper. Also you have to put the Terminal in the Crimper in the correct position.
Hi Guys!!! Do the curved style of blades on these types of pliers hold up well? When I looked at Klein, their similar style had a more traditional blade setup that I would think lasts longer. Klien Model #J2078CR and Model #J2158CRSEN are the ones I'm looking at.
So far so good, after 2 years still going strong, if you cut only copper and aluminum they last a long time, I have the Knipex VDE handle european version.
Bypass shears never work as well as displacement cutters like regular linesman pliers or side cutters. Even on 14 ga Rolex, you can feel it pops and struggles.
For sure! I’ll add it to the list. We have folding utility knives up first. I’d really like to see how well the testing videos do before I dump a ton of money into it
Update* @americanelectrician I purchased these and received them on 2/13.. So I went ahead and used them the rest of the week at work and I must say they're not as bad as I thought they'd be. That said the knipex I think is still a way better stripper for me and my job, the feel the way it cuts is just a hard one for anyone to beat. It's nice to have another style stripper in my arsenal cuz other than my full time job I own rentals and I'm constantly doing lighting repairs/outlets etc and this will be used for all those projects along with my knipex!
Thats awesome tho! Glad you tried them out. Theres just a couple things I really like about them that the knipex doesn’t have. That being said, I do love my Knipex
@@americanelectrician I was just messing around my man but I hope as you get bigger and companies give you those specifically worded propositions that you stay genuine
The speed grip is on the way! I o appreciate the feedback on that. I feel that. I’m trying to get videos sponsored by relevant companies rn but not companies being tested in the video. Just actual good, American companies that we use so it can be transparent and also not make me go broke doing it lol
I know this is going to sound nitpicky - but please stop saying "Subjective" when you mean "objective". I really like your videos but you have them backwards! lol. Peace brother
Bro your channels sick. It’s starting to look underrated. That project farm stuff is overachieving and we need that. That tool starting line up has to be nothing less than pristine to match our career choice as electricians. 🧼 😆. Keep it up!
Bro thank you. This means the world!🙌🏼 I’m trying to get into a project farms style of video with much more relevant tools and maybe a little more entertaining 😂 he does a fantastic job tho for sure
Thank you for the review! We appreciate you sharing your genuine opinion.
I got a pair from the supply house and the teeth between the different wire sizes were tweaked after the first day causing closing issues. Thought maybe I had a bad pair so they exchanged them and the same thing happened. I’ll stick with my Knipex strippers.
Bro I’ve been trying to put electricians on to these Ideal 45-113’s for a cool minute. I bought mine from Bee’s lighting right when they first came out. Ideal makes good stuff, people sleep on it. Great video.
Bro thank you! They are fantastic. Everything I’ve been looking for for a while
Love the content. Great channel! I Watch all your videos. Keep doing your thing man. Cheers!
I have both of these pliers (knipex and ideal). Both are great pliers and they work great for what they are and money spent. It means less tools in the tool kit or pouch.
Great point and great video. I just purchased these from amazon. They’re $40 shipped free, as an illusion that it’s free shipping. I couldn’t find a better grand total, so $40 is it at this point.
As someone that pre twists, I was very disappointed with knipex. I was hoping this would be a replacement for my linemen’s in my pouches when making up floors worth of joints. Unfortunately, it’s just 2-3 mm too narrow. They are only good for 2 maybe 3 wire joints. The biggest selling point for the knipex is the threadless cutting on the bolts. Idk why more companies don’t include stranded 10 on their cutters either.
Best replacement for me is the Milwaukee’s 7n1 lineman stripper strips up to 8 and shear style cutting and effortless screw cutting
I used the knipex for a long time. They are great but I switched to the southwire s5n1 for $25 it’s hard to beat. Less features but feels really good and opens wide.
Great review! I'm going to purchase these. I always pre twist, just my 2 cents.
Hmmmmm…… ideal was handing these out at my trade school when they visited last year. Haven’t really been using them as I really enjoy my Milwaukee needle nose strippers. usually you end up getting what you pay for (which in this case I payed nothing), but after watching your video they seem a little more appealing than they did before. I guess I need to try these out for a couple weeks in my commercial lab to see which I prefer before getting back into the field this summer. Thanks for probing my interest with your video!
I haven’t tried the Milwaukees yet so lmk what you think
You need to measure from the pivot point to determine leverage.
I have the same Knipex and mine has developed a bit of rust fairly quick, but other than that I really enjoy using it and everything is much easy and faster compared to anything else I've used so far.
It is a quality stripper for sure
I’ve been on the fence about the Knipex forge strippers but not going to 10 stranded has been the thing that has steered me away as of now, I end up just using my lineman’s
Project Farm is the place to see things like this. He is very, very good!
He does have an awesome channel
Can you use the knipex on live works?
So i didn't buy the knipex due to the lack of 10 stranded. I just got them a few days ago, and 12 and 14 stranded just does not strip at all. On thhn It'll be perfect on one side, and the other side won't even have any cut/mark on them. So, quite literally, i am having to rip half the insulation + nylon coating off. I feel like my pair is defective, but this has been my experience with other forged strippers. I have to use all my might to strip 12 with these and the milwaukees. Idk what's going on but my ideal reflex are staying for now.
Just bought the husky version really like them so far. 8 inch 6 in1 16 Bucks
Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll have to add it to the list of tools to check out
Ballistol is great, a bit expensive but worth it especially if you use a sure shot refillable aerosol sprayer with a bulk size of Ballistol that really offsets the cost, hickok45 is always recommending Ballistol & he turned me onto it 4 or 5 years ago and now on any ppe that goes pew that’s all I use
Wait wait. You use it to take away the bad smells from your PPE?
@@americanelectrician lmao no I must have been editing the message because that’s what it looks like I said, ballistol has a weird smell itself imo lol if you use andthing like that made of rubber use silicone lubricant it’s better for them and doesn’t dry them out (it. Also keep your car doors and locks from freezing. If you spray it on the lock and on the weather, strip seal before a heavy snow, works well ) but I just meant that’s all I use on guns because it actually does a pretty good job cleaning, lubricating and protecting so it kind of works like a clp imo but the ballistol is all I use for cleaning etc aside from that all I use is some grease similar to the golden copper grease that the Glock factory lubricates their slides etc with but it’s just essentially a copper antiseize
I prefer a wide tip on my forged strippers, because I carry them instead of a linesman's pliers. Really. I don't need to pre-twist wires because I don't use wire nuts any more (Wagos for the win!) but I'm in industrial so I use 99% stranded wire, and I often need to 'comb' the end of an existing wire for a re-connect after replacing a contactor or whatever, and I used to use my linesman's pliers for that, but now that I carry the 7" Milwaukee forged strippers I have my 'silver bullet'. If there is something better out there then I will switch, but for my needs I carry the 7" Milwaukee forged strippers and a pair of actual needle-nose pliers (not just long-nose) for control work where I need to get a wire back into a terminal strip where my sausage fingers won't fit. So, for me, a 'regular long nose' plier isn't small enough to be as useful a needle-nose, and a regular long-nose isn't as useful as a wide nose. Instead of being a goldilocks situation it's not as useful for either. Everybody needs different tools for their own work, and I'm always watching videos like this to see if there is something that I might like better. I desperately need at least #18 to #10 stranded stripper, and Milwaukee actually does #20 to #10. Good stuff. The Milwaukee's aren't perfect, so I'm still looking for something better, but so far they are the best that I have found for me with my work.
Same here with the stranded wire. I’ll have to check out the Milwaukee strippers tho! Thanks for the feedback!
Those look nice. May have to get some. Also, you still use wirenuts? Wagos are the way to go.
You should try the milwaukee 7-1 wire strippers, I've been using them for about a year and they seem pretty good
Deal! They are on the list of tools
Nooo way are the ideals better than the knipex. I absolutely love my knipex strippers. Nothing beats them
Denial is a bad look for you👀
The main thing i like about the knipex are the cable shears and they hyper extend to cut MC. The ideals don’t do that
I dislike pliers that don't have a spring. They are far more manageable than without. I have pliers without springs and they are so much harder to use.
To each his own
Hey bro good video as always!! I wanted to ask about your studio set up there!! What camera is it that you use and what lighting accessories? Thanks for the feedback keep up the good work and God bless
Bro thank you!
My video set up
The camera: amzn.to/3vBagaC
The lens: amzn.to/420hWiC
The mic: amzn.to/420hXmG
Lighting isn’t anything special. You just have to play with it and know your camera settings
@@americanelectrician right on my dude!! Appreciate it!! What your doing is working 👍
Bro thank you so much!
Try the south wire needle nose strippers they’re amazing
I’ll have to add them to the list!
I have the klein j215-9crtp which are a multi plier and they are bad ass, i wouldnt mind those knipex though
The Knipex are pretty sweet
I had the romex stripper version and gave it away after one day! I know everyone has different needs but the quality wasn't there for me. I do wonder what the country of origin is on thoes ideals because if it's Taiwan they look eerily similar to milwaukee even if ideals came out before them. They could be the same oem from Taiwan. It's funny I want alot ofcwhat you don't want I use knipex instalation pliers since I do mostly residential. I do want spring loaded but the only model of instalation pliers with is European version in chrome and tends to knick wires. Just sharing my experiences and I'll put my hands on them in my local platt but I have a hard time thinking a generic Taiwan oem would beat a German masterpiece (unless it's a BMW lol)
So the installation pliers are great but they don’t have the right sizes for commercial guys. 12 stranded is a necessity. I had the Romex version as well and I didn’t love them the way I do this style of plier
Forged wire stripper from Knipex is the best.
Loved my Knipex strippers have used my buddies ideals and just wasn’t the biggest fan I use a lot of other ideal tools Forsure no hate on ideal. Just the longevity isn’t there on the ideals usually
The Knipex are pretty sweet!
Love the sweater. Where'd you get it?
Thanks man. It was a custom design. I tried remaking them but I can’t do any less than like $120 per sweater so it’s tough
I have the Knipex VDE european version, no spring, with the long and thin nose, i like them, but they don't twist wire good and at times i find them too long for the job and if the cable is braided and a bit old they don't strip good.
Are they the installation pliers that just strip 2 sizes?
Yep, they're the most used sizes in Europe: 2,5 square mm for sockets and 1,5 for lights.
For an all around Wire Cutter, Striper and Crimp Tool, nothing bets the discontinued Vaco 1963 Tool, for Insulated Terminals. I think the Vaco Tool for Un-insulated terminals is the Vaco 1916. BTW, If you are building UL Cabinets, you need a tool that strips wire, and will never nick the wires. Also a Heavy Duty, Ratchet type Crimper. Also you have to put the Terminal in the Crimper in the correct position.
Outside of ratcheting cutters, the cutters on the knipex are far and better than anything else
I do love the knipex cutters
Hi Guys!!! Do the curved style of blades on these types of pliers hold up well? When I looked at Klein, their similar style had a more traditional blade setup that I would think lasts longer. Klien Model #J2078CR and Model #J2158CRSEN are the ones I'm looking at.
So far so good, after 2 years still going strong, if you cut only copper and aluminum they last a long time, I have the Knipex VDE handle european version.
Bypass shears never work as well as displacement cutters like regular linesman pliers or side cutters. Even on 14 ga Rolex, you can feel it pops and struggles.
can you do a vid comparing klein j2000 series of linesmen and diagonal pliers vs knipex
For sure! I’ll add it to the list. We have folding utility knives up first. I’d really like to see how well the testing videos do before I dump a ton of money into it
Thanks! just got the knipex forged strippers today and ordered a veto tool bag b/c of your vids. cant wait to try them out@@americanelectrician
Let me know what you think!
lol as soon as I was making my comment about my con against the Knipex you spoke in it, but u feel you
I use the Milluwake wire strippers EVERY day installing well pumps and I honestly would not buy any other kind 💯
KNIPEX all day long no matter what!! I'm down for some competition against knipex, however ideal is no where near the level of knipex! Js!
I am a knipex fanboy believe me but I’m excited to see the tests. They have a lot of the stuff I was looking for from Knipex!
Update* @americanelectrician I purchased these and received them on 2/13.. So I went ahead and used them the rest of the week at work and I must say they're not as bad as I thought they'd be. That said the knipex I think is still a way better stripper for me and my job, the feel the way it cuts is just a hard one for anyone to beat. It's nice to have another style stripper in my arsenal cuz other than my full time job I own rentals and I'm constantly doing lighting repairs/outlets etc and this will be used for all those projects along with my knipex!
Thats awesome tho! Glad you tried them out. Theres just a couple things I really like about them that the knipex doesn’t have. That being said, I do love my Knipex
please try a cc-22
What company is that
good shit dawg
Much appreciated🙌🏼
How much is ideal paying you
Zero. Nothing bro. It was genuine 😂
@@americanelectrician I was just messing around my man but I hope as you get bigger and companies give you those specifically worded propositions that you stay genuine
@@americanelectrician and I would like to see a cobra vs the new channellock speed grip testing video please
The speed grip is on the way! I o appreciate the feedback on that. I feel that. I’m trying to get videos sponsored by relevant companies rn but not companies being tested in the video. Just actual good, American companies that we use so it can be transparent and also not make me go broke doing it lol
How will they cut mc. Knipex will go through mc like butter
I’m planning on testing that. I know the knipex cut it insane
You can remove the spring on the Knipex…….
It's all for my glory?
Not even close
The fact that you don't pre-twist your wires explains it all. So i guess the ideals are great if you wanna do a complete hack job.
Basically
Ideal ain’t it
An these pliers might be
your mom aint it
They’ve got some stuff i do use daily.. but also lot of junk
Yea they not ideal
@@alpha42069 Your mom is.
I know this is going to sound nitpicky - but please stop saying "Subjective" when you mean "objective". I really like your videos but you have them backwards! lol. Peace brother
Bro thank you for the info 😂 I appreciate it man
The ideal look the same as the Milwaukee
They are similar. I don’t think it’s the same manufacturer tho
Here I go , more spending on tools........
My bad
Ballistol stinks bad.
Im really surprised to hear that you don’t pre twist your wire. 🤦♂️ I’m gonna have to unsubscribe now. Shame shame
I just really don’t feel that way about stranded wire😂
Are you a TH-camr or an electrician?
I’m an electrician… with a TH-cam channel 😂
Nothing outstanding from the ideals basically the same as the Milwaukee ones,
There’s a lot of solid features. I’ve heard about the Milwaukee strippers for some time now
Bro your channels sick. It’s starting to look underrated. That project farm stuff is overachieving and we need that. That tool starting line up has to be nothing less than pristine to match our career choice as electricians. 🧼 😆. Keep it up!
Bro thank you. This means the world!🙌🏼 I’m trying to get into a project farms style of video with much more relevant tools and maybe a little more entertaining 😂 he does a fantastic job tho for sure