Loved them both. The new one is crap without all the old players. Even some of the old ones were crap when they put in Ochota for eye candy and added nothing to the show. I skip those episodes.
Seeing Robin pushing Mick around in that wheelchair brought a smile to my face. Makes ya wounder what they are doing together now. They must be sitting back watching the new people doing what they once did knowing all the answers
I rather hope that if there is a "great hereafter" that there is still some element of surprise to it all! Imagine, so many books to catch up on...and I bet Robin's been pestering Mick to finally learn Latin, and maybe Mick could share something about early monastic settlements and the perils of holy wells.
Can't understand why people are always complaining about Carenza. She's an expert too and she's entitled to her opinion. I don't think she interrupts any more than the others do either.
I agree. He is scientific, follows the evidence not any preconceived notions, and is super tenacious. I don’t understand why the geo phys, research, maps, and Stewart’s work aren’t done ahead of time. The digging would be so much more productive.
@@amazinggrace5692 " I don’t understand why the geo phys, research, maps, and Stewart’s work aren’t done ahead of time." Hmmm. You obviously totally missed the ethos f the series.
@@amazinggrace5692 It's difficult to do ahead of time because the rest of the week they all have other jobs. The digs are three-day events partly because they can all be available during the weekend.
Carenza with short hair, Tony's earring, almost young Phil and Stewart looking not that thin! I started watching from 14th series, it is all so new for me near the beginning=))
+Sam Johnstone 19 years ago in Malton, pre-flood scandal... Those kids would have now either moved away, run a pub, or be driving chavvy souped up hatchbacks round Norton and Malton in the early hours!
Stewart does get a lot of stuff, around several periods of TT, right and they need to use his input as equal to Geophys. Because it seems to me that the trenches would then be in areas where the back stories can either be proved or disproved in less time and with less confusion. Ah, but Phil always makes the best out of whatever is in their trenches!
The reason Stewart is there is because a lot of TT sites were scheduled monuments adminsitered by English Heritage, Stewart is a surveyor for English Heritage
@@GrahamWalters good insight. That explains why the English Heritage fellow is deferring to Stewart on the trench location (not Mick, mind you, Stewart making the call) and then playfully busting his stones once it was decided.
@@Invictus13666 having watched about 13-14 seasons so far, I think Stuart has been correct more often than geophys has been. The issue with geophys is that while it *can* actually see into the ground, it often cannot tell *what* it is you are seeing, if it is a natural occurrence, if it is magnetic metal scrap, etc. or the modern scrap it find on occasion!
The piece of ‘U. or H’ shaped lead referred to by Mick as ‘window frame’ is still used today in creating stained glass images and is called lead ‘CAME’ . It allows a stained glass window maker to attach various frames together and filling the shape with parts, designing a scene or image. Lead is best as it is flexible (though known today as toxic, causing brain damage and memory loss.
Hold on, yon man stops digging in trench 5, cos they don't want to damage the Jacobian formal garden, then Mrs Council pipes up next, " I think we'll recreate the garden on top", that'll mean digging sodding great holes all over the shop, far deeper than the scrape that was trench 5 surely?
@@boffeycn No, in fact. He's a scientist, and an honest one. He refused to give a hard and fast dendrochronology date because he didn't have the data yet. That refusal gave him a bad rep among those who think science is the same as playing for the camera.
Carenza reminds me of myself in my younger days....female in a male dominated situation, quite educated and qualified but not having acquired the wisdom and grace that comes (the hard way in my case!) and softens those sharp edges. Professor Margaret, the skeleton lady, to me displays wisdom, grace and credentials in spades. I would draw from her for inspiration, personally.
I can understand the idea of scheduling, but man it's incredibly frustrating. It really doesn't make much sense to me. Don't dig so future generations can also not dig. Meanwhile, we learn nothing, and what's left continues to disintegrate to entropy and acid soil.
+Sandra Nelson Having looked at it.....yes it does look like somebodies marijuana crop!! What better place to hide it..... in a patch of nettles!! rofl
You just can't go wrong with a Time Team although I do always find it amusing when they find a piece of pottery 1cm squared and then do a computer graphic of a huge ornate pot with four handles, like how the fuck can you work that out?
From prior examples. In the case of a lot of the ceramics, especially Roman, the styles were standardized and (only) changed slowly over time. Someone somewhere has found a whole, or close to whole copy in another prior dig. Using the stratigraphy, and many examples, a "catalogue" is created showing the stylistic changes over time. After that, it's 'just' a case of matching the fragment to an example in the book.
It's funny how sayings can chance slightly, but for the most part wiTh the same. Here in Canada, I was raised on the saying" six of one, a half dozen of the other. Stewart just said six or two threes.
This English Heritage guy was pretty cool, i loved him joking with Stewart (who went on to work for English Heritage too) and he explained his reason for not digging better than previous EH people.
Yes Carenza gets interrupted but so does she(and a lot of the time before the subject has been properly dealt with). I just think in her case it’s more easily noticeable, because when she says something it really stands out; Younger Carenza communicates sooooo different than the rest of the guys(except john). Much faster, anxious and tenser and that wouldn’t be a problem when you have good diplomatic skills and she simply doesn’t, yet. When you see Carenza in the newer episodes it’s night and day.
The combination of land surveying (the feel) by Stewart and the geophysics (the numbers) by John, puts the archaeologists down on the prime spot. You have a terrible time digging what isn't there.
Stewart doesn’t work by feel. It’s an actual discipline. Original textbook written by Michael Aston. That’s why I get aggravated by the Stewart fellaters. He’s not unique-even on the TT crew.
So the medieval castle was already gone by the time the Jacobean house was built? Did the people in the 1600s know they were building on the site of a castle?
Robin added so much to each episode. It was a sad day when he left the series. RIP, Mr. Bush. P.S. Mick sure was a trooper...attending this dig while recovering from a broken leg! He sure was able to cut through the extraneous to get everyone to focus on the right things. RIP, Professor Aston. P.P.S Carenza continues to be annoying.....always butting-in and over-talking the other researchers when they TRY to share their ideas/perspectives.
In the episode before this (Govan, Glasgow), Tony explains in the intro that the week before Mick had broken his leg while looking for a holy well. Mick was VERY into medieval church architecture, so that is not surprising.
This episode is a fantastic example of English Heritage, Time Team, and the land owners cooperating. Good on them - and often Tony's psuedo-devil's advocacy is incredibly annoying & inappropriate.
@@wheeze_sanchezThere were 2 people called Mick on Time Team Mick Aston who is dead and Mick #2 "Mick the dig" was the nickname for archaeologist Michael Worthington. My comment was not leader Mick Aston who is indeed deceased.
Lol did that one guy who can say no to the dig, just say we don't want to have physical evidence for the castle location so that we can save it for future generations? Save what? I'm not following the logic.
Bryon Lape How many years ago was this taped? Sue looks like she was at her peak at the time. Lovely lady. We're all on the clock, however, so she's probably a more mature lovely lady today.
My information on Sue Francis is very sketchy but I believe she was or is in a relationship with another of the Time Team backroom staff, they formed their own company and eventually Channel 4 decided that they were too expensive and did away with there services. I think the company later went out of business. And I believe Sue also had at least one child. Please don't treat this as gospel and I stand to be corrected it's just bits and pieces I pick up over the years.
Carenza always gets interruted and talked over and not just in this episode. Her classy good manners always let it slide but somehow the commenters resent her for saying anything at all.
It's always good to see Mick and Robin in the same episode. Their experience and knowledge cannot be replaced. A great loss for all of us.
Of course it can. By people that actually have more knowledge.
Loved them both. The new one is crap without all the old players. Even some of the old ones were crap when they put in Ochota for eye candy and added nothing to the show. I skip those episodes.
I read in the comments in another episode that Robin had Alzheimers.
Such a cruel death for a man with such an incredible brain if so.
Seeing Robin pushing Mick around in that wheelchair brought a smile to my face. Makes ya wounder what they are doing together now. They must be sitting back watching the new people doing what they once did knowing all the answers
Sadly, they both have passed away. Robin in June 2010, and professor Mick Aston died in June 2013.
@@chriskoudelka24 yes,,I know that's what made that clip so wonderful👼or👽 which ever you believe in❤
pretty sure Mick at least was atheist
@@thomasevans5467 Sadly, he knows the truth now. Every knee will bow and every tongue will
confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
I rather hope that if there is a "great hereafter" that there is still some element of surprise to it all! Imagine, so many books to catch up on...and I bet Robin's been pestering Mick to finally learn Latin, and maybe Mick could share something about early monastic settlements and the perils of holy wells.
Can't understand why people are always complaining about Carenza. She's an expert too and she's entitled to her opinion. I don't think she interrupts any more than the others do either.
But the fessor did
As I see it she had to fight to get a word in over the noisy men and often failed
The men constantly ignored her and cut off her speech.
Men men men men menly menmen.
@FESERFACE In some episodes she was not allowed to dig because she was pregnant. There was some sort of rule against it.
this show is just so damn wholesome and relaxing i love it
Yes, a really swell series.
Isn’t it, though…
I love this show - outside digging, drinking, and discovering and arguing points in a fair and friendly way.
Back when the world was sane....
@@nothingtonooneinparticular8500Some what sane at least.
Stewart is so underrated - love the guy and his approach
I agree, and he is so often spot on.
I agree. He is scientific, follows the evidence not any preconceived notions, and is super tenacious. I don’t understand why the geo phys, research, maps, and Stewart’s work aren’t done ahead of time. The digging would be so much more productive.
@@amazinggrace5692 " I don’t understand why the geo phys, research, maps, and Stewart’s work aren’t done ahead of time." Hmmm. You obviously totally missed the ethos f the series.
@@amazinggrace5692 It's difficult to do ahead of time because the rest of the week they all have other jobs. The digs are three-day events partly because they can all be available during the weekend.
@@amazinggrace5692 except none of that is true. His work is no more special or accurate than any others.
I really like the back and forth between Phil and Mick in this one. It's fun to watch educated people argue and debate.
So if you don't fancy cleaning up your big garden, you can call Time Team in to de-nettle it for you! 😅 I love Time Team!!
Carenza with short hair, Tony's earring, almost young Phil and Stewart looking not that thin! I started watching from 14th series, it is all so new for me near the beginning=))
Our Phil was still very much in his prime in this one.
Mick is still recuperating from his broken leg. Brave fellow to muddle about on crutches
on thistle-laden lumps and bumps.
+Marnie Sweet
That's pure passion.
Do you by chance remember how he broke it in the first place?
@@ShepStevVidEOs In the previous episode, Tony stated Mick broke his leg while "looking for a holy well." :)
I mean, that definitely sounds like Mick.
Wow! Tony has so much hair! And Phil has a waist! I started watching at season 17, so everyone looks so young to me.
Those kids,present at the site,are learning things that will help them understand the history of the place far more better.
they are just some local glue sniffing neds. they would have signed up for the dole the day they turned 18
+Sam Johnstone 19 years ago in Malton, pre-flood scandal... Those kids would have now either moved away, run a pub, or be driving chavvy souped up hatchbacks round Norton and Malton in the early hours!
You're right! I'm still fascinated
@@samjohnstone1356 No, that was you and your MGTOW bum buddies.
Stewart does get a lot of stuff, around several periods of TT, right and they need to use his input as equal to Geophys. Because it seems to me that the trenches would then be in areas where the back stories can either be proved or disproved in less time and with less confusion. Ah, but Phil always makes the best out of whatever is in their trenches!
The reason Stewart is there is because a lot of TT sites were scheduled monuments adminsitered by English Heritage, Stewart is a surveyor for English Heritage
@@GrahamWalters good insight. That explains why the English Heritage fellow is deferring to Stewart on the trench location (not Mick, mind you, Stewart making the call) and then playfully busting his stones once it was decided.
Geophysics actually shows what’s in the ground. Stewart just woo woos about the landscape. Valuable, but nowhere near as important as geophysics.
@@Invictus13666 having watched about 13-14 seasons so far, I think Stuart has been correct more often than geophys has been. The issue with geophys is that while it *can* actually see into the ground, it often cannot tell *what* it is you are seeing, if it is a natural occurrence, if it is magnetic metal scrap, etc. or the modern scrap it find on occasion!
@@joelnolan7642 yay for your thoughts!
*Stellar Digs!"*
@ 16:21 That sloped sidewalk, ... and Mick in a wheelchair, ....... 😶 ... and I got a vision of a 1920's Comedy .....
I like John Ette. Serous, explains well but still gives a bit of leeway.
I think he holds his own, knows he is 'not for telly' and amazingly comes out well.
He knows his stuff, but looked like “WTH am I doing here” 🙂 @8:47
Another quiet genius. Berwick Morley rocks!!!
The piece of ‘U. or H’ shaped lead referred to by Mick as ‘window frame’ is still used today in creating stained glass images and is called lead ‘CAME’ . It allows a stained glass window maker to attach various frames together and filling the shape with parts, designing a scene or image. Lead is best as it is flexible (though known today as toxic, causing brain damage and memory loss.
Stinging Nettle,...May as well be poison Ivy, Notice Phil not wearing shorts on this one? lol
TheEvilDruid1 nettle is edible
Phil is a lot of things but stupid is not one of them. Those legs were worth protecting.
British history is incredibly fascinating!
Many other countries have an equally fascinating history - but yes.
I love the snarky bickering, between the main characters. Too funny.
Not only do we get Robin and Mick in this episode, but this is the best shape I've seen his colourful sweater in!
Hold on, yon man stops digging in trench 5, cos they don't want to damage the Jacobian formal garden, then Mrs Council pipes up next, " I think we'll recreate the garden on top", that'll mean digging sodding great holes all over the shop, far deeper than the scrape that was trench 5 surely?
Find me an episode of Time Team where Tony does not mention the word "frustrating" at some point.
It's a square on Time Team Bingo.
Brilliant Rupert! LOL!🤣😆
Find that episode... so frustrating...
Not possible. Tony was perpetually frustrated.
How many episodes does he use the word "desultory"?
I like the pushback Tony clarified very well on the preservation critter. Phil and John as usual know better.
"preservation critter" very apt 😂
It's a pity Robin and Mick are not with us anymore.
Beric Morley too.
Respect to Robin. I miss Him a lot.
Classic episode!
Mick "the twig" Worthington at 27:20. Professor of Dendrochronology at U of Maryland.
He was a bit of a wanker towards the end.
@@boffeycn No, in fact. He's a scientist, and an honest one. He refused to give a hard and fast dendrochronology date because he didn't have the data yet. That refusal gave him a bad rep among those who think science is the same as playing for the camera.
I'm speechless upon the story of the 2 sisters and the mansion. The whole place is symmetry! Why don't just split it up in the middle?
Perhaps each of them wanted to get a larger share than the other sister. Sadly that kind of thing happens when people get greedy.
Thanks so much for posting
Carenza reminds me of myself in my younger days....female in a male dominated situation, quite educated and qualified but not having acquired the wisdom and grace that comes (the hard way in my case!) and softens those sharp edges. Professor Margaret, the skeleton lady, to me displays wisdom, grace and credentials in spades. I would draw from her for inspiration, personally.
Mick, and Robin noodling about should have been its own show.
I can understand the idea of scheduling, but man it's incredibly frustrating. It really doesn't make much sense to me. Don't dig so future generations can also not dig. Meanwhile, we learn nothing, and what's left continues to disintegrate to entropy and acid soil.
Those are picky details none of us expected to notice.
Oops. Details none of us are expected to notice.
The mound by the beech tree is here on Google Earth:
54° 8' 3.25" N, by 0° 47' 33.17" W
37 Chandlers Wharf
Castlegate, Malton, UK
Once again, thanks for the coordinates. I always come looking. :)
Some of the co-ordinates are in digital L&L and may need to be converted to standard.
Yes, some of them are not working.
This one should be 54° 8' 3.25" N, by 0° 47' 33.17" W
Here's the converter site:
www.fcc.gov/media/radio/dms-decimal
thanks you're awesome!
The poor EH bloke, stuck between Phil & Mick! @8:47
When I first saw all that greenery, honestly, I thought we were looking at someone's marijuana crop!!!Silly me!
+Sandra Nelson Ssssssh.. Don't tell everyone.
+Sandra Nelson -- How do you think they paid for these shows?
+Sandra Nelson Having looked at it.....yes it does look like somebodies marijuana crop!! What better place to hide it..... in a patch of nettles!! rofl
You weren't the only one ;-)
I was about to make that same observation.
You just can't go wrong with a Time Team although I do always find it amusing when they find a piece of pottery 1cm squared and then do a computer graphic of a huge ornate pot with four handles, like how the fuck can you work that out?
From prior examples. In the case of a lot of the ceramics, especially Roman, the styles were standardized and (only) changed slowly over time. Someone somewhere has found a whole, or close to whole copy in another prior dig. Using the stratigraphy, and many examples, a "catalogue" is created showing the stylistic changes over time. After that, it's 'just' a case of matching the fragment to an example in the book.
They're so young !
Look for it, the entire 20 series is available on TH-cam. In series 1, Tony has long hair and Phil's hair is a bit shorter.
"Give it some 'ommer" - brilliant!!
It's funny how sayings can chance slightly, but for the most part wiTh the same. Here in Canada, I was raised on the saying" six of one, a half dozen of the other. Stewart just said six or two threes.
Both expressions are used here but _six or two threes_ is more common in the north than in the south (I have lived in *Surrey* for most of my life).
I was kind of confused by what he meant by that. as I live in the US. Can anyone explain?
@@JessieCochran37 it means 'it makes no difference(both the same)
That medieval sheriff did not screw around. If I'm ever served with legal papers In the UK, I think I will just accept them graciously.
This English Heritage guy was pretty cool, i loved him joking with Stewart (who went on to work for English Heritage too) and he explained his reason for not digging better than previous EH people.
Always listen to Stewart.
I love how they have the kids cleaning finds.
Lol, I love how Tony in the beginning of the video is walking through a cannabis field and calling it "nettles"!
this one is great lov it
Can anyone help a curious American out and explain what the necklaces are all about at 46:53? I've seen them in a couple episodes so far.
Here in the Netherlands its the mayor wears it. I think it’s the same in the UK. :)
It's because these men are gay ;)
@@greenhorn6582 - grow up.
Ritual.
Does anyone know if this park ever got built?
Yes Carenza gets interrupted but so does she(and a lot of the time before the subject has been properly dealt with). I just think in her case it’s more easily noticeable, because when she says something it really stands out; Younger Carenza communicates sooooo different than the rest of the guys(except john). Much faster, anxious and tenser and that wouldn’t be a problem when you have good diplomatic skills and she simply doesn’t, yet. When you see Carenza in the newer episodes it’s night and day.
i thought that this dig was spoilt by the restrictions you had,
I like when they date the walls and buildings--late 12th early 13th Lionheart and John Lacklands times...gives the show more context
Oh poor Mick. But he looks cute with that foot cast. 😁
Can anybody explain why at 17:45 we see Dat Two 12:00 pm. I am still using noon and midnight but this has me completely baffled?
Why’s that? 12.00 am would be midnight.
"Almost 6 and 2 3's" Never heard that before.
6 of 1 and half dozen of the other.
The combination of land surveying (the feel) by Stewart and the geophysics (the numbers) by John, puts the archaeologists down on the prime spot. You have a terrible time digging what isn't there.
Stewart doesn’t work by feel. It’s an actual discipline. Original textbook written by Michael Aston.
That’s why I get aggravated by the Stewart fellaters. He’s not unique-even on the TT crew.
Did they ever build the garden? Did the owner ever get his hotel?
The Jacobite house story could be told like this:
The two ladies were fighting for 20 years, the guy was over it.
So choose about the rubble, then!
@19:11 "Shall we get the lads in and get stripping" - Stewart
Wow Sue!!
So much nicer than the new time team
So the medieval castle was already gone by the time the Jacobean house was built? Did the people in the 1600s know they were building on the site of a castle?
Carenza Lewis....sigh😍
"Give it some ommer"
What did Mick do to end up in a cast? (I musta missed that episode!)
Looking for a holy well. Nudge, nudge.
6 and 2 threes.... as opposed to 6 of one and half dozen of another. -- interesting.
I'm from Utah, and we've shortened it to just one word. Sixes.
@EmtronVenger No weirder than any bastard language.
Tony and Robin have a big chuckle over the Catholic family being bombed by the sheriff. Did I really see that?
Funny.
😂
A young stewart educating tony!
Robin added so much to each episode. It was a sad day when he left the series. RIP, Mr. Bush. P.S. Mick sure was a trooper...attending this dig while recovering from a broken leg! He sure was able to cut through the extraneous to get everyone to focus on the right things. RIP, Professor Aston. P.P.S Carenza continues to be annoying.....always butting-in and over-talking the other researchers when they TRY to share their ideas/perspectives.
What happened to his foot I ask?
In the episode before this (Govan, Glasgow), Tony explains in the intro that the week before Mick had broken his leg while looking for a holy well. Mick was VERY into medieval church architecture, so that is not surprising.
Good ol' Mick!
Why would somebody build a square castle when round or oval walls are way easier to defend with fewer manpower?
Just wondering
My man forgot to temper the blade.
Anybody knows wether the locals proceded as planned?
What’s “ommer”?
The lady from the council is accustomed to cracking the whip and being obeyed - and if not obeyed, she’ll wheel in the cannon and persuade compliance.
Love those high-tech equipments.
I hope not, they'll need to call in the cannabis survey team before they can start any work.
Is it Phil and Mick's program🤔🤨!
This episode is a fantastic example of English Heritage, Time Team, and the land owners cooperating. Good on them - and often Tony's psuedo-devil's advocacy is incredibly annoying & inappropriate.
Michael Worthington aka "Mick the dig" is now an archaeology professor living in Baltimore Maryland USA
Michael Antony "Mick the dig" Aston died in England in 2013. I think you are confused.
@@wheeze_sanchezThere were 2 people called Mick on Time Team Mick Aston who is dead and Mick #2 "Mick the dig" was the nickname for archaeologist Michael Worthington. My comment was not leader Mick Aston who is indeed deceased.
@@lsjibbs7077 I stand corrected. Thank you. I just discovered TT and it turns out Mick is an even more popular nickname than I thought.
Was here in 2019
I don’t understand why they have to cover it all up once they’ve excavated it.
To preserve it for a future generation, who have a better way to study it all.
Probably to prevent unobservant twits from falling into the open trenches
Bring in the bulldozers!!!
Lol did that one guy who can say no to the dig, just say we don't want to have physical evidence for the castle location so that we can save it for future generations? Save what? I'm not following the logic.
Did that woman, I forget her name, ever get her wish in re-establishing the Jacobean garden?
Honor Skywalker no!! It's a nature reserve called Castle Gardens, beautiful place
The Stinging Nettle they are removing, they should have used to feed themselves. It is edible. :-)
I think it's more often used as a medication. You can eat it after it's cooked but I don't think it's very tasty.
That is a lot of weed
Malton, where the playas play.
Love me some TT
The 15 fame filled minutes of John Jobsworth Ette
Still odd to see Tony with hair
You shouldn’t ever take out roses! That pains me. If a rose-fancier were involved, they would insist on transplanting them.
No more hotels, please.
2018.
All of the overhead shots can be done with Drones you can buy on Amazon.com.
That predatory outfit does not need your free advertizing. Boycott.
Back in 1993? Really? I missed that Christmas present!
25:10 Sounds like the Waco siege.
Anyone know how old Sue is?
Get over yourself, Bryon.
Bryon Lape How many years ago was this taped? Sue looks like she was at her peak at the time. Lovely lady. We're all on the clock, however, so she's probably a more mature lovely lady today.
+KYIRISH1 I'm happy they didn't make a fuss of her attractiveness but rather appreciated her skills as a graphic artist.
My information on Sue Francis is very sketchy but I believe she was or is in a relationship with another of the Time Team backroom staff, they formed their own company and eventually Channel 4 decided that they were too expensive and did away with there services. I think the company later went out of business. And I believe Sue also had at least one child. Please don't treat this as gospel and I stand to be corrected it's just bits and pieces I pick up over the years.
38:18 lol
What happened to Stewart and his detective work? In earlier seasons, he does well. Later he becomes a little of a laugh.
How about preserving the people of the nation before some bricks buried under 2ft of earth....
Same form indeed... could be cannabis ruralis
Carenza always gets interruted and talked over and not just in this episode. Her classy good manners always let it slide but somehow the commenters resent her for saying anything at all.