The Story of 'Room On Fire': The Strokes' Impossible Follow Up

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  • @g21g28
    @g21g28 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    their best album to me. it's similar to is this it but casablancas became a better songwriter and the band grew stronger as performers. the hype and insanity of the time was stupid and the media just wanted to knock the pins down after setting them up by hyping them as the saviors of rock

  • @ortizrangel8650
    @ortizrangel8650 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "He want them to sound old-fashioned and at the same time futuristic "
    It means the idea of the voidz was always there, jules tried in his first solo, then he accomplished that sound with the voidz . Maybe the voidz is the band he always wanted to be with.
    Sounds heartbreaking but maybe the strokes was always a base and the first stage to get what he really wants.

  • @Tracey_
    @Tracey_ ปีที่แล้ว +101

    The best way to enjoy Room On Fire is in two ways:
    1. Look at each song individually and not as a collective whole. It makes each song better when not having to be pushed together and in an order.
    2. Don’t look at it as in the shadow of Is This It, and appreciate it as it’s own thing.

    • @rogernelsonjr6969
      @rogernelsonjr6969 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      id say the same exact thing for comedown machine. that album is amazing when you dont compare it to their other albums

    • @Th-tg4zm
      @Th-tg4zm ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Astro Jenkins most condescending comment competition winner

    • @rolandknaap3577
      @rolandknaap3577 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And play reptilia at 15 percent more speed. It has been recorded too slow. Thats why live it sounds much better.

  • @Isaacyeah
    @Isaacyeah ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I don't think they could've done better than room on fire, it was so good

  • @alexpattle96
    @alexpattle96 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I've always said it: This is the best possible follow-up an artist could write after a debut as well-regarded as Is This It (and there aren't many debuts like that in the history of music). Not only is Room On Fire a great follow-up, it's a fantastic record in its own right.

    • @indiesleaze
      @indiesleaze  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Spot on!

    • @alexpattle96
      @alexpattle96 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@indiesleaze great video!

    • @rkid727
      @rkid727 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Think Coldplay and Oasis are the others that accomplished this feat as well. I personally like Room On Fire even more than This Is It.

  • @joshwhalen17
    @joshwhalen17 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I hold "Is this It' and "Room on Fire" as two sides of the same album. I always considered Gordon Raphael to be the common denominator therein.
    Had The Clash released London Calling as two separate, consecutive records they probably would've received similar criticism.

  • @kingexclusivo
    @kingexclusivo ปีที่แล้ว +16

    For me that’s their best album

  • @theslate7987
    @theslate7987 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’m so glad to have found a channel talking about the music I love! Great work mate

  • @jeffreyroedel9804
    @jeffreyroedel9804 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    For the 20th anniversary this year the Strokes need to reissue RoF with the bonus tracks "Modern Girls and Old Fashioned Men" and the three tracks they did with Godrich and scrapped.

    • @indiesleaze
      @indiesleaze  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Would love to hear those Godrich tracks!

  • @DJForget
    @DJForget ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I still love the quote about the 12:51 video, regardless of the song itself(I think it's great), "'The video is not good enough.' He goes, 'Because the band didn’t want this song and you see it on the screen.' And he was right. You watch that video and they are bored." - Meet Me in the Bathroom, 2017

    • @indiesleaze
      @indiesleaze  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Definitely! But they made up for it with the Reptilia video, which might be their all-time best for me.

  • @seahorsesebastiano2506
    @seahorsesebastiano2506 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great dive into the strokes 2nd best album

  • @deannilvalli6579
    @deannilvalli6579 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice narration on this. Brings back memories of days gone by....

  • @viniciuseneas4036
    @viniciuseneas4036 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm very happy to be part of the group that always thought Room on Fire is just as good as Is This It since day one. No second evaluations needed.

  • @wannenburgwannenburg3695
    @wannenburgwannenburg3695 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love the album. Really cool video, can't wait to see more. Would love a video about The Cribs

    • @indiesleaze
      @indiesleaze  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thankyou. The Cribs are a favourite so I will definitely do an episode on them at some point.

    • @akwilson1676
      @akwilson1676 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes please. Jarman brothers best thing to come out of Wakefield

  • @LieLikesMusic
    @LieLikesMusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool video. Keep it up

  • @dark_lumi
    @dark_lumi ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i feel like if the latter half of first impression of earth was just slightly better, room on fire wouldn't be my favorite strokes album. its so close, and heart in a cage is my favorite song but room on fire is just so amazing to me. is this it and new abnormal are tied in 3rd for me, but their whole discography is just amazing its hard to decide on hard rankings.

    • @indiesleaze
      @indiesleaze  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yeah. First Impressions is seriously underrated!

    • @jn1346
      @jn1346 ปีที่แล้ว

      The last half of FIOE is the best half ….

    • @dark_lumi
      @dark_lumi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jn1346 don't get me wrong i love the second half, but i feel like juicebox, heart in a cage, and razorblade is the best 3 song lineup in their whole discography. i love a majority of the songs in the second half so much but some of them are just a bit repetitive, which puts it just below room on fire for me.

  • @Bearzo23
    @Bearzo23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s my favorite of theirs

  • @jo.n.9
    @jo.n.9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome work man!

    • @indiesleaze
      @indiesleaze  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thankyou! I appreciate it.

  • @pavelgutierrez6940
    @pavelgutierrez6940 ปีที่แล้ว

    good fucking video. super in depth and informative, keep it going man 🙏🙏

  • @carterj117
    @carterj117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool video man

  • @evilangel3328
    @evilangel3328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    rof was amazing

  • @hidalgotravels
    @hidalgotravels ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do Interpol next!

  • @kylereece173
    @kylereece173 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's the best album ever made

  • @dan-vn4um
    @dan-vn4um ปีที่แล้ว +3

    cool! keep doing it

    • @indiesleaze
      @indiesleaze  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thankyou. I'll be putting out a new video every month.

  • @AnnetteMay1221
    @AnnetteMay1221 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both 1st and 2nd albums are equally awesome. In my opinion you cannot compare the two. Each album is in a class (separately) by itself. The first album was like one song immediately after the next. The second album is like 32 minutes long but not edited as fast as the first one. If that makes any sense. If Gordon Raphael never produced The Strokes, it may not have had the impact that those first two albums had.

  • @westroom9272
    @westroom9272 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Room on fire is just as good as is this it

  • @Bullseye_Strength
    @Bullseye_Strength ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Reptilia is a better song than anything on Is This It.
    &, IMO, Is This It is pretty much a perfect album.

    • @lalotime
      @lalotime ปีที่แล้ว

      Reptilia is cool. But not better than Hard to Explain. No other song sounds like Hard to Explain

  • @boyruns
    @boyruns 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Give me those Nigel demos now

  • @MountainBlade
    @MountainBlade ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The whole “the first Strokes album is so much better than the rest” is such lame take. The first three records are all absolute bangers.

  • @smurxxx0910
    @smurxxx0910 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember seeing them live in 2005. They were very interactive with the crowd and threw a great show.

    • @indiesleaze
      @indiesleaze  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good times! I saw them in 2004 and it's one of my favourite live memories.

  • @ryanjavierortega8513
    @ryanjavierortega8513 ปีที่แล้ว

    Julian in the states, Pete abroad...good times

  • @ryanmeade621
    @ryanmeade621 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Room On Fire is an incredible album and lyrically i think it's better than Is This It.

  • @declanh1122
    @declanh1122 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ROF slept on for real

  • @FernandoGastelo
    @FernandoGastelo ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't understand the thinking of loving one album then complaining about its follow up being the same. That should be still be awesome

  • @timytimeerased
    @timytimeerased ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Incredible to read reviews saying this is a sub par Is This It, to me Room on Fire is an amazing 2nd album, it goes a bit farther than the sound of Is this it, but you can feel some songs could have been on the first album

    • @indiesleaze
      @indiesleaze  ปีที่แล้ว

      I love both but Room On Fire is definitely a bit darker and perhaps more uncertain of itself. Is This It is just pure unbridled confidence - in a way that only a debut album can be!

  • @JohnnyLREACTS
    @JohnnyLREACTS ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolute nonsense Room On Fire was an incredible album full of hits. I do not understand the criticism and never did. It's only fault is Is This It was new and fresh and impossible to follow up (that is not a fault really now is it).

  • @MassiveCatLittleLegs
    @MassiveCatLittleLegs ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I prefer Room On Fire.

  • @endcno8563
    @endcno8563 ปีที่แล้ว

    out of left field not just left field

    • @indiesleaze
      @indiesleaze  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure what you mean?

  • @a1689812
    @a1689812 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the intro song?

    • @indiesleaze
      @indiesleaze  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some royalty free stock music I found. I wasn't sure I liked it enough though so it's not in my most recent couple of videos.

  • @cilkz1265
    @cilkz1265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    room on fire is better than is this it, I said it.

  • @indiesleaze
    @indiesleaze  ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for watching! I've just started the channel so please give it a like, comment or even subscribe if you think it's worthy 👏. If you enjoyed this one, I have a few more to watch. Cheers 🎸

  • @ellobo7627
    @ellobo7627 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The songs are good on both albums wtf are people tripping about lol

  • @ivanascencio4978
    @ivanascencio4978 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think if you review music as a professional you should be critical but also you should look for something good in the music. Give a ome positive feedback because too often are we going back and giving credit to old music when it should’ve gotten the credit it deserved from the beginning.

    • @indiesleaze
      @indiesleaze  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think The Strokes have had a raw deal from the critics ever since 'Is This It'...it's a backlash that's lasted 20 years!

  • @mrfarenheit0323
    @mrfarenheit0323 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see ROF as a collection of B sides if every track on is this it were singles (as they should be)

  • @lalotime
    @lalotime ปีที่แล้ว

    It is a better album to Is This It. Most love Reptilia and say its THE strokes song, I mean it is a good song but its not the Strokes definitive sound. Under Control and Whatever Happened i think come to mind first. Hard to Explain and Someday from this is it too
    Reptilia is kind of like New York City Cops and Juicebox where its a standout. Many will point to these songs as being classic strokes. When those songs are a bit different from what the strokes were really doing. Kind of like Radiohead and Creep or The Killers with Mr. brightside.

  • @paulvigliotti444
    @paulvigliotti444 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Room On Fire is and always was better than the debut

    • @ScratchMoreFortune
      @ScratchMoreFortune ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed. And Im tired of acting like it’s not

    • @davidbanan.
      @davidbanan. ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree, there are somedays where i lean more towards Is this It, but generally Id say Room on Fire is better.

    • @pentexsucks43
      @pentexsucks43 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Room on Fire has 'I Can't Win', Is This It does not. Clear winner here.

    • @PartyxPoision
      @PartyxPoision ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Absolutely not lmao

    • @howtoeataham
      @howtoeataham ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have to agree. I still love ITI, but ROF just hits different

  • @edgarmirth5020
    @edgarmirth5020 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are there really ppl in real life who like the 1st record but dislike the 2nd?...did they get a head injury in between releases?

  • @to2burger
    @to2burger ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay but can we be honest First Impressions of Earth is such a criminally underrated album!

  • @jastrology4192
    @jastrology4192 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Room on fire is better. It’s godfather pt 2

    • @indiesleaze
      @indiesleaze  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like this analogy! But which album is part 3? 😳

    • @jastrology4192
      @jastrology4192 ปีที่แล้ว

      Angles? Lol

  • @davidbanan.
    @davidbanan. ปีที่แล้ว

    I think we can all agree the only objective fault of this album was the Lukewarm reception it got on release

  • @unguelootay8589
    @unguelootay8589 ปีที่แล้ว

    Room on Fire beats Is this It, it's more emotional and mature