Love it when people who never served a day in their life try to explain military equipment. Even better when they try to argue with one of us who lived with said equipment...
Apparently, he did serve (not sure which capacity- although, he was on the team that went in to see if Hussien had any WMD's) but for some reason the dude forgets salient information when it comes to USA.
@@noseyparker6969 he was considered an expert in ballistic weaponry & was a UN inspector. He's not just some armchair warrior who "never served" talking out his ass. It is JUST possible he knows a thing or two about his area of expertise than other people who served in a different capacity do. I have read conflicting data on the efficacy of these systems, but I certainly do not believe Zaluzhny's claims about shooting down practically every Russian thing in the sky. It is a bit easier, however, to believe the footage of burning Patriot System wreckage still smoldering in "Keev" right now.
I kind of understand what you mean about not being able to correct people. A while back, I got brief about a certain “near peer” adversary in the far East from a person who had a way higher security clearance than me. It also occurred in the chow hall, so he was very limited on what he was actually able to tell us, which annoyed him greatly. Every time someone had a good question, he’d get this pained look on his face, and he’d simply say, “excellent question. There’s a very good answer, but we have exceeded the security level of the chow hall.”
And that's the problem with idiot or propaganda military commentators. You can bullshit all you want in public, if the proof to refute you is classified.
Found this channel via memes but this one, memes with truths. What a godly feeling to stamp out those people providing incorrect information without correcting themselves. I think these people researched their information just like how long their video is.
I came for the Talking Maps, stayed for the education. Not as funny as Scotland screaming about T-bagging Russians, but somehow you are still asserting dominance over (insert favorite insult here). You are my 3rd favorite content creator at this time. The Fat Electrician is number one, and Scott over at Kentucky Ballistics is number 2. You just passed Agro Squirrel, who narrates "Human's are Space Orcs" stories.
I was once concerned about the US military because of everything around the world that i have been hearing, but as soon as i found this channel, oh boy did i learn...
I was over at a friend's house and asked him about an keepsake he had. He was Navy EOD and this thing was three pieces of steel that, roughly, made three segments to a slightly pointed cylinder, loosely surrounded by a copper (?) ring. "Oh, that? Thats my first IED." It was the remnants of a 122 mm shell that had been used as an IED, but did not explode at high order so barely burst the shell casing rather than creating a lot of fragments. Military guys seem to end up with "interesting" keepsakes.
Met a marine that had a law tube on his wall he let me hold it and showed me how to fire it in case i ever came across one and had a need coolest dude ever i love working in vets houses they tip too well and always have cool shit or stories ive seen pieces of concrete from hitlers bunker pieces of the iron wall met a lady that lived in nagasaki but wasnt there when the bomb dropped ive even met a north korean that defected that was a hell of an eye opener i nearly got fired because i literally talked to him all day his hatred for communism and what north korea did to him and his family can only be defined as solid enough to hold favorite part of what i fo is meeting the people
@@jediknight1294how tf did you get shot by a makarov theyre hardly effective at anything besides warcrime style executions im not trying to insult i really wanna know like korea vietnam if your willing to share i have alot of vets in my family line quite a few purple hearts but none of em got shot by a pistol
We were assholes and elbows getting off a C-130 in Riyadh in Desert Shield when we landed because of a scud attack. From what I remember, Patriot had issues shooting down scuds because the Iraqis had increased the size of the warhead without any other changes. So the added weight caused the scud to break apart in flight. So instead of just the missile it was several pieces screwing with target lock.
Watching you shred that sweater vest keyboard commando is fucking breathtaking! Dudes LARP’ing as some retired general giving his in depth assessment like he’s on CNN, and you flat fucking destroy it. Bro, keep up the videos, this shit is gold!
Every time I get reminded of the Patriot Missile system, I remember an image where someone was standing in front of one while holding a sign that said something along the lines of “This machine kills civilians.” Amazingly funny.
The Patriot may not have been ideal during the Persian Gulf but I can say something on the topic. My division rallied in Kuwait (just entered theater from Fort Riley) for a few days before our assignment in Saudi began. During that time the building I was staying was hit with most of an engine from a scud missile that had been shot down by a Patriot. For an as yet untested (in live combat) system doing something no one and nothing else had done before (shooting down missiles mid-air), the Patriot proved it could be done. Considering the processing speed of computer processors of the day, this was no small feat.
I'm so glad the algorithm took me to your page. I've learned quite a bit and spent most of my time laughing while I learned. It comforts me that people like you are the ones who are manning these systems.
Thanks for posting your videos. Cleans out the horse stall so to speak. Can't get decent news or information from the media without them talking over the actual expert.
If this guy was around in 1939 he’d have been telling people that the allies had no chance because they had largely colonial based troops armed with Enfield rifles. Ignoring that while that was the standard rifle the platoon make up was immeasurably different and of course communications were infinitely superior. 30 years ago something didn’t work. So today it is unchanged. Like my fashion.
Did basic at beloved FT. SILL was in an ADA guard unit before going active and ending up at FT HOOD in the 1st CAV. Love your content and the shirt you had on, Continue to lead the way.
One of my biggest issues with AD units is exactly what he was saying about units never following the .86 to table 8 certifications. They're supposed to be bi annual and we were doing like 4 a year at least. New soldiers would come in and be expected to pass the table 4 test in a week, and be certified on a crew within a month, even though by doctrine, it's a 6 month training program. And there was never absolutely any reason for it except to look better in the command and staff slide deck. But it would keep people in the van or on the ground stupid long hours and weekends, and in the field constantly. One of the biggest reasons I got away from it as soon as I could.
If knowledge is power that dude couldn't power a potato clock. HLC your videos have shown me just how little I know about the US Air defense. I originally came for the short videos shredding Russian incompetence but I'm loving these longer videos.
I never served in the military which means I've never operated any of this equipment but every once in awhile at work somebody will try to say something about this equipment that I know for a fact is wrong I do greatly appreciate Google for having an answer with a lot of it there's a couple TH-camrs that I have found to be very helpful when it comes to the history of certain military equipment but I'm always the first person to say that I never serve so I don't know first Hand I only can tell you what I researched
Watching this video six months after you posted it. I gotta say, your review has aged quite well. The Ukkies seem to be shooting down lots and lots of Russian shi... stuff.
Right....because the U.S. Military is well known for keeping things exactly the same for 30 years and not pumping out upgrades for those systems like they're EA releasing Madden Games.
You are awesome. The level of education you have is seen. I have never served, but you drop information a basic Joe like me can grasp. I think you said you teach, if you don't you really need to.
Sarge, I would say, "SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE CHEAP SEATS!" But you said it from your chest and said it true. Besides, they wouldn't understand even if they did hear. Love your content... 😁
That is Scott Ritter who is a US citizen and Russian propagandist. Most of his spouting is just like this. Taking some truths and spinning it to utter BS. He was an UNSCOM weapon inspector which is his only qualification. He also is a convicted sex offender. He did a tour in Russian Federation and occupied Ukraine selling his book this year. He is on the same level as Steven Segal as far as a Russian Federation tool. Someone may have already posted this, I didn't see it in the top 30 or so comments.
When I was taking a programming class 30 or so years ago, the professor used the Patriot as a real world example of using data sizes that weren't appropriate for an application. We were told about a Patriot software bug that caused it to not target the incoming scuds if the system had been live for more than 20 hours. The version I heard was a counter would overflow causing an error. I've since seen mention that the problem was due to using 24 bit floating point (very imprecise) and a calculation based on time would get excessive rounding errors after 20 hours. The patriot battery in question had been up for several days. Either way the immediate fix was to make sure the system was restarted every 12 hours or so. That software bug was fixed soon after and the reboot requirement removed. I'm sure the computer systems controlling the Patriot have been upgraded several times since then and are are no longer using a 1970's era computer to run them. Even your phone is going to be able to do 64 bit floating point precision (orders of magnitude better) and most computer processors can do better. Either way, I'm certain that this particular software error will never occur again in a Patriot system. The idiot referencing the Patriot not shooting down the scud was correct, FOR a February 1990 Patriot system, but not for a Patriot system after March of that year...
It used to be called SOSUS, sound surveillance system. We have systems all over the world in the oceans that are used to track both subs and surface ships. They have been used to find many a lost sub over the years. And it’s known but still top secret in its capabilities. It can triangulate and pin point the sound very accurately.
Missile interception capabilities over the last 30 years have advanced by orders of magnitude because semiconductor computing power has advanced by orders of magnitude... For instance the computing power we have in our smartphones now are much much more capable than what they had on the rocket ship that went to the moon.... So the computation available to patriot today is unconceivably faster and more advanced than what they had in Saudi Arabia Patriot in '91.... There is literally no comparison.. It's essentially a completely different system... And if anyone understands how missile interception works, by that I mean the actual physics behind it you will understand that missile interception is just equations and algorithms... The more and better computation power you have to solve those equations and run those algorithms in order to make the missile intercept the better your interception technology will be even if you had the exact same missiles from 1991... The missiles are less important than the computation inside the missiles and inside the command and control centers...
Thank you for not just your service, but for helping to battle the bots, wilful idiocy and misinformation with an arsenal of facts, experience and humor. From this vet to you OUTSTANDING! SOLDIER ON!
Him saying that would be the equivalent of me explaining modern dogfighting to Snog Capt Dale Snodgrass when alls I did was maintain the Avionics of f14s and the other electronic systems while he actually taught at top gun and was the skipper of multiple f14 squadrons
I really like coming back to a video like this months later after Patriot has been in Ukraine for a while. I'm sure the original guy on TikTok was in the "Unstoppable Kinzhal" camp, so naturally I considered it my civic duty to watch this video with pictures of the wreckage of a Kinzhal that a Patriot missile headshot way back when. Ah, it pleases me so very greatly to be in the "anti-SRBM battery can shoot down SRBMs" camp...
it is also funny how the only correct patriot missile defense system was the last one, how hard is it to find a firing patriot missile defense system on the internet. I don't think it would take that long
Yes most of our defense systems were initially set up in the 60s through the 90s. But we have spent more money on our systems in the last two years than most countries have spent in the last 30 years. Sure the systems have the same name as 40 years ago, but they are not the same systems.
It's like I keep telling people...id bet money that we keep using old shit not because we don't have better, but because we don't need better, but still have better in the back row like a solemn judgement about to omni-negate their special summon of their boss monster.
lol Yeah, didn't see this video at the time. I know a 25Q who works center in a boomstick battery. You can end up with 90 peeps _deployed_ to run one depending on environment and needs because people gotta sleep and you need someone to protect the MRE pilferers and some people count the security fraternity in that. There's lots of stupid out there... like the people who think Javelin is top-attack, that NLAW has a minimum distance and that Russia has an army.
Thank you for the trip down memory lane Sergeant. Each delta model apache has more than a marathons distance worth of wire set in harnesses thicker than your forearms. And having two M70 hydra pods, And two racks of hellfires plus 1200 rounds of 30 mike mike, its a flying noghtmare than has obly gotten better. Oh and by the way they are actually incredibly difficult to fly. You have to learn how to fly one when you go through 15Y AIT at Joint Base Langley Eustis. And even as helicopters go, its no walk in the park
Hello from an Okie in Tulsa! Thank you sir for serving our great country/state in Fort Sill! I really hope the orcs keep underestimating the Patriot systems! Why anybody talking about the Patriot would bring up the failures from the first gulf war pretty much proves they are idiots! Those people think that systems can't be improved upon in 30 years? Simple question for folks that were actually alive during the first gulf war.... how much have computers, just plan old desktop PCs improved since the early 1990s? Exactly, there is no comparison by how much computing horsepower has improved. Even our smart phones today are hugely more powerful than even the best PC/servers in the early 1990s! Keep underestimating our weapon systems morons/orcs.... :D Great video, keep them coming!
Funny enough the folks that were there when they came under attack by ballistic missile said that the patriot is more effective than what the media says.
While chilling out at a Malmstrom Minuteman II launch facility, I remember all the wisecracks watching the Jets smoke the Patriots 3 weeks before DS popped off.
My last assignment during my first enlistment was 2AD A2C2 on the aviation side. 4 soldiers ran the entire department. 2 enlisted and 2 officers. Totally sucked being the lowest E5 at Division HQ.
As I'm now watching this, 5 months later, when he says they wouldn't be trained up on it until now and they've been using it effectively for a while now haha
on the whole, Patriot has come a long way from hitting friendlies to 'i eat kinzals for lunch and dinner and i shit scrap metal' I had few reservations about the patriot when they were pledged. They were gone when it shot down Kinzals.
Hey! Its five months now since this video's release! Definetly havent heard anything about Patriots shooting down russian missles.... yup, nothing at all. 😂😂 5 months, maybe like 5 weeks, tops lmao
I know this old but we never had anywhere close to 90 people in our whole battery, most of the time was in the 60s and that's including admin, supply, and such. If the system is already emplaced ran on 12 man crews. 3 ECS, 2 BCP, 2 system mx, 5 hot crew (launcher/reload crew). Idk where the dude got 90 from lol.
Interesting video: thanks for your time. Followed a referral from Sandboxx to it. One question wrt manpower. You question (well, you ridicule) the oft-quoted number of 90 men to man the Patriot, and you say +/- 20 could do it. But isn't that 20 for a short period? Like one shift? Are you sayng you can run a Patriot at 100% effectiveness for 24/7/365 with +/- 20 people? Including full mobilty off-road? I personally don't know how many are really needed, and 90 men/batterry seemed execessive. But does your breakdown seems to miss the point of the need for it to be at 100% readiness, 100% of the time?
So yes the numbers I spoke of are for a single mobility crew and 1 operator shift. The average patriot unit MTOE (list of personnel and equipment) is around 70 total. Most units can certify and deploy by double slotting people around 60 people total for mobility and 24/7 steady state ops, low density personnel and command group.
Ladies and gentlemen lets look at the incredible sack of that "armchair quarterback " again. Lincrosser just lays out the defensive line and continues on to pummels this guy in the ground.
Hey, I know the Patriot system is your bread and butter and I’m impressed with your knowledge, but I was wondering if you happen to have any firsthand knowledge of the MIM-23 I-HAWK that the Ukrainians have reportedly received from the Spanish government (launchers and radars) and us (refurbished missiles). I’m kind of curious to see how an older system is holding up in the type of high intensity combat environment we’re seeing in the Ukraine.
It's all a part of layering. The I-HAWKS are doing a better job being another threat Russia has to plan around/for than sitting idle in some weapons storage facility somewhere.
Love it when people who never served a day in their life try to explain military equipment. Even better when they try to argue with one of us who lived with said equipment...
Big facts
Apparently, he did serve (not sure which capacity- although, he was on the team that went in to see if Hussien had any WMD's) but for some reason the dude forgets salient information when it comes to USA.
Scott Ritter that's his name.
@@noseyparker6969 What a great reputation Ritter has: He writes for Russia Times now and is a convicted pedophile.
@@noseyparker6969 he was considered an expert in ballistic weaponry & was a UN inspector. He's not just some armchair warrior who "never served" talking out his ass. It is JUST possible he knows a thing or two about his area of expertise than other people who served in a different capacity do. I have read conflicting data on the efficacy of these systems, but I certainly do not believe Zaluzhny's claims about shooting down practically every Russian thing in the sky. It is a bit easier, however, to believe the footage of burning Patriot System wreckage still smoldering in "Keev" right now.
This aged like fine wine.
Yee.
I kind of understand what you mean about not being able to correct people. A while back, I got brief about a certain “near peer” adversary in the far East from a person who had a way higher security clearance than me. It also occurred in the chow hall, so he was very limited on what he was actually able to tell us, which annoyed him greatly. Every time someone had a good question, he’d get this pained look on his face, and he’d simply say, “excellent question. There’s a very good answer, but we have exceeded the security level of the chow hall.”
Nah the chow hall’s security level has to be pretty high, otherwise it wouldn’t be able to contain all those hungry soldiers!
Damn.
Hopefully they could answer those later because I'd want to know
And that's the problem with idiot or propaganda military commentators. You can bullshit all you want in public, if the proof to refute you is classified.
Found this channel via memes but this one, memes with truths. What a godly feeling to stamp out those people providing incorrect information without correcting themselves. I think these people researched their information just like how long their video is.
I came for the Talking Maps, stayed for the education.
Not as funny as Scotland screaming about T-bagging Russians, but somehow you are still asserting dominance over (insert favorite insult here).
You are my 3rd favorite content creator at this time. The Fat Electrician is number one, and Scott over at Kentucky Ballistics is number 2. You just passed Agro Squirrel, who narrates "Human's are Space Orcs" stories.
I was once concerned about the US military because of everything around the world that i have been hearing, but as soon as i found this channel, oh boy did i learn...
I’m very happy to see another furry learning.
Bro this guy is not just giving information snack we got the whole meal.
I was over at a friend's house and asked him about an keepsake he had. He was Navy EOD and this thing was three pieces of steel that, roughly, made three segments to a slightly pointed cylinder, loosely surrounded by a copper (?) ring. "Oh, that? Thats my first IED." It was the remnants of a 122 mm shell that had been used as an IED, but did not explode at high order so barely burst the shell casing rather than creating a lot of fragments. Military guys seem to end up with "interesting" keepsakes.
Lol. Yeah. Mostly from that time they almost died. I still have a piece of a mortar that was pulled out of my shoulder. Missed my neck by inches.
@@Heretowatchstuff I was so annoyed I didn't get to keep the makarov round pulled out of my shoulder.
Met a marine that had a law tube on his wall he let me hold it and showed me how to fire it in case i ever came across one and had a need coolest dude ever i love working in vets houses they tip too well and always have cool shit or stories ive seen pieces of concrete from hitlers bunker pieces of the iron wall met a lady that lived in nagasaki but wasnt there when the bomb dropped ive even met a north korean that defected that was a hell of an eye opener i nearly got fired because i literally talked to him all day his hatred for communism and what north korea did to him and his family can only be defined as solid enough to hold favorite part of what i fo is meeting the people
@@jediknight1294how tf did you get shot by a makarov theyre hardly effective at anything besides warcrime style executions im not trying to insult i really wanna know like korea vietnam if your willing to share i have alot of vets in my family line quite a few purple hearts but none of em got shot by a pistol
@@jediknight1294my grandpa survived a howitzer mainlining and blowing up he was a shell loader in korea
Hey thought you should know your videos and TikToks get sent around both the Raytheon engineering and corporate offices
You do good work, keep it up!
I may need a job in about 6 years 😂
Don't forget Lockheed Martin MFC ;)
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Keep building awesome stuff!
... and charge less money for it, please.
Good to know Rayray likes his stuff!
We were assholes and elbows getting off a C-130 in Riyadh in Desert Shield when we landed because of a scud attack. From what I remember, Patriot had issues shooting down scuds because the Iraqis had increased the size of the warhead without any other changes. So the added weight caused the scud to break apart in flight. So instead of just the missile it was several pieces screwing with target lock.
I know the patriot clock bug effected us back then but our system is capable of filtering through debtis
Watching you shred that sweater vest keyboard commando is fucking breathtaking! Dudes LARP’ing as some retired general giving his in depth assessment like he’s on CNN, and you flat fucking destroy it. Bro, keep up the videos, this shit is gold!
That guy cried himself to sleep after seeing this.
Sarcasm.
The body's natural defense against stupidity.
Sir, sir?
Fine I'll do it for him.
Drops 🎤
Every time I get reminded of the Patriot Missile system, I remember an image where someone was standing in front of one while holding a sign that said something along the lines of “This machine kills civilians.”
Amazingly funny.
I feel that line "your wrong but I can't tell you why your wrong." So many arguments with people have gone that way.
The Patriot may not have been ideal during the Persian Gulf but I can say something on the topic. My division rallied in Kuwait (just entered theater from Fort Riley) for a few days before our assignment in Saudi began. During that time the building I was staying was hit with most of an engine from a scud missile that had been shot down by a Patriot. For an as yet untested (in live combat) system doing something no one and nothing else had done before (shooting down missiles mid-air), the Patriot proved it could be done. Considering the processing speed of computer processors of the day, this was no small feat.
I like the way you rebutt this fool's statements. Great work
I'm so glad the algorithm took me to your page. I've learned quite a bit and spent most of my time laughing while I learned. It comforts me that people like you are the ones who are manning these systems.
Active Tango here, crosstraining with the uprange boys, i appreciate you helping dispel misinformation about this amazing system
Thanks for posting your videos. Cleans out the horse stall so to speak. Can't get decent news or information from the media without them talking over the actual expert.
If this guy was around in 1939 he’d have been telling people that the allies had no chance because they had largely colonial based troops armed with Enfield rifles. Ignoring that while that was the standard rifle the platoon make up was immeasurably different and of course communications were infinitely superior. 30 years ago something didn’t work. So today it is unchanged. Like my fashion.
You forgot to mention the poor tangos!! They are important too. Lol. Love it man!! Keep it up!!
Did basic at beloved FT. SILL was in an ADA guard unit before going active and ending up at FT HOOD in the 1st CAV.
Love your content and the shirt you had on, Continue to lead the way.
One of my biggest issues with AD units is exactly what he was saying about units never following the .86 to table 8 certifications. They're supposed to be bi annual and we were doing like 4 a year at least. New soldiers would come in and be expected to pass the table 4 test in a week, and be certified on a crew within a month, even though by doctrine, it's a 6 month training program. And there was never absolutely any reason for it except to look better in the command and staff slide deck. But it would keep people in the van or on the ground stupid long hours and weekends, and in the field constantly. One of the biggest reasons I got away from it as soon as I could.
If knowledge is power that dude couldn't power a potato clock. HLC your videos have shown me just how little I know about the US Air defense. I originally came for the short videos shredding Russian incompetence but I'm loving these longer videos.
Update may 20, ukraine has been shooting down like everything patriots target...the guy did coincidentally nailed the 5 months part lol
Including the "unstoppable" kinshal
Thank you for your information and laughing Scott Ritter to scorn!!!
I never served in the military which means I've never operated any of this equipment but every once in awhile at work somebody will try to say something about this equipment that I know for a fact is wrong I do greatly appreciate Google for having an answer with a lot of it there's a couple TH-camrs that I have found to be very helpful when it comes to the history of certain military equipment but I'm always the first person to say that I never serve so I don't know first Hand I only can tell you what I researched
Watching this video six months after you posted it. I gotta say, your review has aged quite well. The Ukkies seem to be shooting down lots and lots of Russian shi... stuff.
Right....because the U.S. Military is well known for keeping things exactly the same for 30 years and not pumping out upgrades for those systems like they're EA releasing Madden Games.
You are awesome. The level of education you have is seen.
I have never served, but you drop information a basic Joe like me can grasp.
I think you said you teach, if you don't you really need to.
Sarge, I would say, "SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE CHEAP SEATS!" But you said it from your chest and said it true. Besides, they wouldn't understand even if they did hear. Love your content... 😁
Is it just me or was that guy sitting in front of the shipment background?!?!
That is Scott Ritter who is a US citizen and Russian propagandist. Most of his spouting is just like this. Taking some truths and spinning it to utter BS. He was an UNSCOM weapon inspector which is his only qualification. He also is a convicted sex offender. He did a tour in Russian Federation and occupied Ukraine selling his book this year. He is on the same level as Steven Segal as far as a Russian Federation tool.
Someone may have already posted this, I didn't see it in the top 30 or so comments.
When I was taking a programming class 30 or so years ago, the professor used the Patriot as a real world example of using data sizes that weren't appropriate for an application. We were told about a Patriot software bug that caused it to not target the incoming scuds if the system had been live for more than 20 hours. The version I heard was a counter would overflow causing an error. I've since seen mention that the problem was due to using 24 bit floating point (very imprecise) and a calculation based on time would get excessive rounding errors after 20 hours. The patriot battery in question had been up for several days. Either way the immediate fix was to make sure the system was restarted every 12 hours or so. That software bug was fixed soon after and the reboot requirement removed.
I'm sure the computer systems controlling the Patriot have been upgraded several times since then and are are no longer using a 1970's era computer to run them. Even your phone is going to be able to do 64 bit floating point precision (orders of magnitude better) and most computer processors can do better. Either way, I'm certain that this particular software error will never occur again in a Patriot system.
The idiot referencing the Patriot not shooting down the scud was correct, FOR a February 1990 Patriot system, but not for a Patriot system after March of that year...
He shoot down drones and misinformation. 2 for 2.
This is AWESOME. Highly entertaining listening to you destroy guys like this with actual facts
It used to be called SOSUS, sound surveillance system. We have systems all over the world in the oceans that are used to track both subs and surface ships. They have been used to find many a lost sub over the years. And it’s known but still top secret in its capabilities. It can triangulate and pin point the sound very accurately.
Yeah, if ive learned anything at all its that the Patriot is Bad. Badass.
Enjoying watching you so much. I think I heard you say you’re at Ft Sill? Well then howdy from a life long Okie 👍🇺🇸
Missile interception capabilities over the last 30 years have advanced by orders of magnitude because semiconductor computing power has advanced by orders of magnitude... For instance the computing power we have in our smartphones now are much much more capable than what they had on the rocket ship that went to the moon.... So the computation available to patriot today is unconceivably faster and more advanced than what they had in Saudi Arabia Patriot in '91.... There is literally no comparison.. It's essentially a completely different system... And if anyone understands how missile interception works, by that I mean the actual physics behind it you will understand that missile interception is just equations and algorithms... The more and better computation power you have to solve those equations and run those algorithms in order to make the missile intercept the better your interception technology will be even if you had the exact same missiles from 1991... The missiles are less important than the computation inside the missiles and inside the command and control centers...
Yes the systems have advanced and now in Ukriane shooting down 30 out of 30 missiles between what 6 Kindzals 🤭🤣
Let's try not lie ourselves 😉
@@GegeDxD 🤡
Thank you for not just your service, but for helping to battle the bots, wilful idiocy and misinformation with an arsenal of facts, experience and humor.
From this vet to you
OUTSTANDING! SOLDIER ON!
Scott Ritter spewing his crap, good job debunking it
Well done Sgt. Blazing Skies.
Him saying that would be the equivalent of me explaining modern dogfighting to Snog Capt Dale Snodgrass when alls I did was maintain the Avionics of f14s and the other electronic systems while he actually taught at top gun and was the skipper of multiple f14 squadrons
He's a partisan twerp paid by people to shit on western military so not too surprising
"you get to live your life in DipShitistan" had me crying!
I really like coming back to a video like this months later after Patriot has been in Ukraine for a while.
I'm sure the original guy on TikTok was in the "Unstoppable Kinzhal" camp, so naturally I considered it my civic duty to watch this video with pictures of the wreckage of a Kinzhal that a Patriot missile headshot way back when.
Ah, it pleases me so very greatly to be in the "anti-SRBM battery can shoot down SRBMs" camp...
it is also funny how the only correct patriot missile defense system was the last one, how hard is it to find a firing patriot missile defense system on the internet. I don't think it would take that long
Facts can be the greatest weapon, and you just demolished that guy. Keep up the good work.
Yes most of our defense systems were initially set up in the 60s through the 90s. But we have spent more money on our systems in the last two years than most countries have spent in the last 30 years. Sure the systems have the same name as 40 years ago, but they are not the same systems.
It's like I keep telling people...id bet money that we keep using old shit not because we don't have better, but because we don't need better, but still have better in the back row like a solemn judgement about to omni-negate their special summon of their boss monster.
5 months later, it seems one of you was right....
I sometimes wonder if your really in the army big sarge. Your a little 2 smart for the army lmfao! Much love brother
ADA stands for "A Different Army" after all
they are built different
lol
Yeah, didn't see this video at the time. I know a 25Q who works center in a boomstick battery. You can end up with 90 peeps _deployed_ to run one depending on environment and needs because people gotta sleep and you need someone to protect the MRE pilferers and some people count the security fraternity in that.
There's lots of stupid out there... like the people who think Javelin is top-attack, that NLAW has a minimum distance and that Russia has an army.
Thank you for the trip down memory lane Sergeant. Each delta model apache has more than a marathons distance worth of wire set in harnesses thicker than your forearms. And having two M70 hydra pods, And two racks of hellfires plus 1200 rounds of 30 mike mike, its a flying noghtmare than has obly gotten better. Oh and by the way they are actually incredibly difficult to fly. You have to learn how to fly one when you go through 15Y AIT at Joint Base Langley Eustis. And even as helicopters go, its no walk in the park
Hello from an Okie in Tulsa! Thank you sir for serving our great country/state in Fort Sill! I really hope the orcs keep underestimating the Patriot systems! Why anybody talking about the Patriot would bring up the failures from the first gulf war pretty much proves they are idiots! Those people think that systems can't be improved upon in 30 years? Simple question for folks that were actually alive during the first gulf war.... how much have computers, just plan old desktop PCs improved since the early 1990s? Exactly, there is no comparison by how much computing horsepower has improved. Even our smart phones today are hugely more powerful than even the best PC/servers in the early 1990s! Keep underestimating our weapon systems morons/orcs.... :D Great video, keep them coming!
Funny enough the folks that were there when they came under attack by ballistic missile said that the patriot is more effective than what the media says.
This channel is fun. Legit infotainment!
the worst part about that guy was how he would say words louder and harder in the beginning
of the word
This aged well
While chilling out at a Malmstrom Minuteman II launch facility, I remember all the wisecracks watching the Jets smoke the Patriots 3 weeks before DS popped off.
Thank you for spreading accurate knowledge and this actual power.
Ah, yes, 40 years and nothing happened, no development of technology whatsoever.
2nd LT Sweater Vest has the military experience of a high school freshman...
Sadly he is a former USMC Captain.
@@DesertFernweh an Officer, makes even more sense
Dont forget also being a convicted pedophile!
@@MiishaKorvian who went to work for the UN doing bullshit
He makes me want to hit him across the face with a JP 3-60 (my expertise) while yelling "Bro, do you even doctrine?" 😂
Nice video mate!
Bruh the ending had me gasping
You forgot the crayons eaters there you know the tango lol.
Damn you right 😂
As a former tango (07-13) this is great.
My last assignment during my first enlistment was 2AD A2C2 on the aviation side. 4 soldiers ran the entire department. 2 enlisted and 2 officers. Totally sucked being the lowest E5 at Division HQ.
This is why I love getting a vet’s or currently active personal’s word and experience over other… well, you know.
That looks a lot like Scott Ritter.
👍👍👍 You tell'em Battle!!! 👍👍👍
Used to listen to Scott but eventually smelled the 🐂💩
As I'm now watching this, 5 months later, when he says they wouldn't be trained up on it until now and they've been using it effectively for a while now haha
I’m watching this 5 months later I guess they just learned how to operate them
I love your content. Much respect!
I think people look at the lack of Russian innovation capability and assumed every country does that.
You mean like the amata using a tiger two engine
and in may of 2023 shows that yes, in 5 months the patriot in ukraine has shot down lots of russian garba... assets.
I am glad you are on our side
Your shirt says it all friend!
Correction: 00:29 : That's the NASAMS (Norwegian Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile System)
Where did u see the Iron dome here??
Scott Ritter doesn't edit pics into his stream videos, someone clipped him & added the wrong pics, which this guy then misidentifies.
Sweet lord this content is amazing
3:43 Some kinda classified military intelligence?
on the whole, Patriot has come a long way from hitting friendlies to 'i eat kinzals for lunch and dinner and i shit scrap metal'
I had few reservations about the patriot when they were pledged. They were gone when it shot down Kinzals.
Saying the Patriot we have today is the same as 91 would be like if you said the f150 from today is the same as 91.
Hell the m16 in 91 versus today is a completely different rifle never mind everything else
Hey! Its five months now since this video's release! Definetly havent heard anything about Patriots shooting down russian missles.... yup, nothing at all.
😂😂 5 months, maybe like 5 weeks, tops lmao
How did youtube allow all those collected clips of a sweatervested horse's posterior lifting tail and dumping nuggets?
"Expert" in the chair is on the level of United States state media.
I know this old but we never had anywhere close to 90 people in our whole battery, most of the time was in the 60s and that's including admin, supply, and such. If the system is already emplaced ran on 12 man crews. 3 ECS, 2 BCP, 2 system mx, 5 hot crew (launcher/reload crew). Idk where the dude got 90 from lol.
What's so interesting about Samarium? Oh, I get it now, I was reading too much into it
Let's also acknowledge that whatever we give or sell to our allies is never the latest, greatest, and best we've got.
Interesting video: thanks for your time.
Followed a referral from Sandboxx to it.
One question wrt manpower. You question (well, you ridicule) the oft-quoted number of 90 men to man the Patriot, and you say +/- 20 could do it.
But isn't that 20 for a short period? Like one shift? Are you sayng you can run a Patriot at 100% effectiveness for 24/7/365 with +/- 20 people? Including full mobilty off-road?
I personally don't know how many are really needed, and 90 men/batterry seemed execessive. But does your breakdown seems to miss the point of the need for it to be at 100% readiness, 100% of the time?
So yes the numbers I spoke of are for a single mobility crew and 1 operator shift. The average patriot unit MTOE (list of personnel and equipment) is around 70 total. Most units can certify and deploy by double slotting people around 60 people total for mobility and 24/7 steady state ops, low density personnel and command group.
Dunking on dunning kruger derpydoofs all day long. Love to see it.
Is there a difference between foreign versions of the Patriot? Or does it all just depend on who's using it?
Done and done! Send um our way. I would rather be on the USA’s side if incoming where headed my way any day.
Please 🙏 keep doing this it's awesome 👌 👏 👍
Ladies and gentlemen lets look at the incredible sack of that "armchair quarterback " again. Lincrosser just lays out the defensive line and continues on to pummels this guy in the ground.
You're at Ft Sill!
If I remember correctly (which is a big if) the problem the Patriot had in the first gulf war was fixed in about a month.
Hey, I know the Patriot system is your bread and butter and I’m impressed with your knowledge, but I was wondering if you happen to have any firsthand knowledge of the MIM-23 I-HAWK that the Ukrainians have reportedly received from the Spanish government (launchers and radars) and us (refurbished missiles). I’m kind of curious to see how an older system is holding up in the type of high intensity combat environment we’re seeing in the Ukraine.
It's all a part of layering. The I-HAWKS are doing a better job being another threat Russia has to plan around/for than sitting idle in some weapons storage facility somewhere.
3:43 Dipshitistan?! 🤣🤣