I have NEVER FELT THIS MUCH disappointment at a series ending. So much potential & we were again cheated. It seemed unlikely they could have a happy ever after, but after all that death & killing, but to end with so many plot holes & giving Villanelle such a short amount of time w/Eve was simply super cruel. Phoebe, where are you? Your gals & fans needed you.
Someone said they might be trying to set up for a Carolyn spin-off and that's the only possible reason I can see behind this ending, because as you say, it left so many loose ends. [spoilers] who shot them? why did Carolyn order them to be shot? presumably she knew about the location change, but how? who is she really working for? What's Pam going to do? If it was just a season ending then sure, but it's (supposedly) the last ever season of this show so WHY would you leave it like that, even the 'Konstantin's daughter joining the 12' storyline was introduced never to be brought up again. I'm not going to attack the writer for killing off V because I watched an interview where they _somewhat_ justified that, but like every series since the first it felt disingenuous. Where was the classic killing eve humour in this? V's outlandish outfits? The music? Not _the worst_ season imo, but disappointing nonetheless.
Completely agree, the final season was a disappointment and the final episode a disaster as reflected by the 2.8 rating on IMDB in stark contrast to the consistent 8+ in seasons 1-3 even season 4 was getting 6-7 ratings , how could they ruin it in such an unsatisfactory way.
ive never seen someone get the characters MORE wrong..so upsetting. she says she wants to do all the characters right by them and by the fans but she did the opposite
The end positively WRECKED me. Just cry-in-the-shower wrecked me. And I'm a big burly carpenter guy! It didn't need to end this way. Lara just got lazy. She wanted to leave her mark, even if it meant fans would hate it. It was sooo sweet when Villanelle and Eve were in and around the camper van. My only consolation is the episode of Mythbusters where they prove bullets don't travel more that 18 inches through water. They disintegrate.
They should've ended it with them standing at the boat rail looking across the water to the city lights and left everything else to audience imagination.
I really think Oh and Comer did their best with what was given to them. I think they were both dissatisfied with how the writers ended the show with how neither have really promoted the season at all.
Laura Neal: Villanelle’s journey throughout the series is about her trying to change herself for the better Jodie Comer: I don’t think Villanelle wants to be a good person… The fact that Laura Neal just doesn’t understand this character at all and she got to write her ending is so upsetting … you really can see that Jodie played Villanelle as truly to the character as she could; given she had an absolutely shitty script to work with.
Can't agree more, Jodie acting was amazing like always but the script on season 4 was a mess, some nice scenes here and there but overall all the story was confusing the main characters destroyed, story unfinished, many things started and nothing concluded and introduction of completely useless and boring characters like Eve's new "boyfriend"🤦, what is this man doing in this series I still haven't understood yet. How much time wasted uselessly throughout the season with boooooring and absolutely forgettable characters.
I can’t even bare to listen to LN speak. Makes me wonder if she actually watched the finale episode as it aired. How could she believe that was the best ending? It seems impossible. The anticlimactic killing of the 12 was straight up laughable and unbelievable. My brain hurts from trying to understand why the hell she was thinking.
lol I'm sorry but after THAT FINALE and Laura Neal says "Eve's spent so much time with Villanelle, and now she's taken on some of her traits in a way." (0:57) I'm like... I'm sorry WHEN did they spend so much time together???? Because a VERY IRRITATING MAJORITY OF THEIR TIME WAS SPENT APART.
Their time was spent in their heads hearts and souls it is possible although never together physically that was the entire premise behind the story this assassin very slowly kills Eve one of the most brilliant television series ever
I believe that maybe Laura tried to do what she felt was right but after hearing her say that Villanelle's death is like a "rebirth" and "freedom" for Eve, it made me realise that she just seemed to completely misunderstand them. She suggested that Villanelle needed to die because of all the bad she'd done, but completely ignored how much she'd developed and changed. Villanelle had discovered that maybe her past had made her the way she was and she was trying to become better for Eve, did that mean nothing? Eve on the other hand, had become probably the darkest version of herself but she's allowed to live on and start again? Doesn't make sense to me.
Completely wholeheartedly agree she fulled misrepresented the characters. Like did anyone else not understand the bar scene about carolyn and eve kinda in a stand off on opposite sides like um when did that happen.
Live on all alone who had just lost the greatest love/passion of her life. Not a good ending at all! I was numb and refused to see the ending, yet binged on 1-3 seasons! Can't stop watching!!!
Season 3 ended on the bridge. S4 was so disjointed from that S3 ending - all of a sudden there is this animosity and distance between V and Eve. Bizarre. Like the writers just hadn’t watched or thought about the prior season. What a waste of an opportunity. Shockingly bad.
Producers saying Laura was the right person to write season 4🤡🤡. Also Jodie smirking while saying she couldn't wait to see people's reactions to season 4...oh yeah she knew we'd pop off lmao.
Villanelle felt like a bright light, dimmed and reduced to nothing. Her clothing, the humour in her dialogue, and then the finale. There was this power she had in the first two seasons, something feminine, something scary, but it disappeared after season two. Laura Neal's season 4 paled in comparison to its predecessors, Killing Eve was phenomenal because it did something different. It was never what i expected it to be, and Laura Neal absolutely disappointed. That finale was the most cliche spy ending ever, and so many character introductions, so much pointless subplot for absolutely nothing. No payoff whatsoever. It felt like she was running us in circles trying buy herself time before Villaneve reunited. Three seasons of mystery and buildup for the end of the twelve to be reduced to a- what- four minute slow-mo fight scene? Eve and Villanelle crashed the boat with not even a semblance of a plan and neither any weapons. The worst? Villanelle died in a grey tank top. We deserved better.
@Haley_93 I've edited my previous comment. Laura did not do any research whatsoever. Villanelle had hallucinations of herself as drag jesus, its like Neal was making fun of us. Because Villanelle is a psychopath, yes, but she isn't that kind of crazy. She's a trained assassin, and for the larger bit- unfeeling. Tell me why she was such a mess in the fourth season. It's like Villanelle, herself didn't know what she was doing at all or why. Everywhere I look, Laura failed. She was an amateur playwright brought on to finish the show, probably kill it.
the way Laura Neal seems so happy and satisfied with herself knowing fans would be destroyed at the ending, and truly how atrocious the writing was is so upsetting
Laura Neal was the worst person to finish out this series absolutely dreadful. Just another killing off of the “lesbian”, how original. Wish I had stopped watching after season 2.
@@floptune8515 From season 3, the episode 2, 3, 5 and 8 are almost 10/10 for me. Episode 1 was bad, but the rest were fine. I did not notice any lost of quality vs previous seasons. Only season 4 was incredible bad in every aspect. I hate it.
I'm late to the party only found it recently. I watched series 1, loved it, series 2, good, series 3 I struggled with. It lacked sparkle and had gone into weird territory. So I quit after a couple of episodes and instead read each synopsis right up until the end on wiki episodes. Glad I quit when I did! The best is def series 1 and 2 imho.
as heartbroken/mad as I am, your comment made me laugh. Because when she said that I was like so you didn't think the fans were going through enough in real-life for you to rewrite that ending. She did what she wanted to do and called it better. Nobody voted for that! SMH, every time I calm down, I get mad all over again, lmbo. thanks for the laugh though
So they had 4 seasons, building up how powerful the 12 were.. only for villanelle to conveniently find them in one place and to single handedly end them...
It was ridiculously stupid but not in a good way. All the season 4 was a mess in my opinion apart from the acting, the actors did a good job anyway with the 💩 they get.
How can they say that they spent ages trying to think about how to give the fans a satisfying end to the show when they gave us what they did? I can forgive the ending as it made sense, but it was rushed and crammed into one episode. That episode pretty much should have been the entire final season. If Laura Neal is so funny, then she could have had so much fun with writing the final season as Eve and Villanelle working together, being together and hunting The Twelve. THAT would have been satisfying.
"how to give the fans a satisfying end" which fans is she talking about? not the lesbian/bisexual women who were the true fan base of the show... straight people don't get it. At all. Clueless!
At first I was devastated that I read a spoiler that one of them died, but it allowed me to chose to press stop and turn off the TV right as they embraced on the ship. That was the end of the show for me. My heart breaks for the rest of you who had to see it with your own eyes. I wouldn't be able to take it. I'm sorry the writer did this to them and us.
Thank you for releasing this, especially for the people who can't see it because they don't live in America and couldn't watch it on AMC when it aired, I really appreciate it :)
I was screaming when I was watching their actual couple moments in the last episode and for them to end it like that? Why can't we have the happy ending like in the book? I love the characters, especially Jodie but MANNNN the ending was hella disappointing. I was expecting for them to finally be together. LN completely misunderstood Villanelle and Eve :( I'm so heartbroken.
I honestly didn't think I could be as disappointed as I was when game of thrones finished until this ending , it's like give the fans every thing they want and then stab them in the back.
I've watch the season finale last night and I cried all day today. Villanelle was likely to die, but the way she did was really heartbreaking. I've enjoyed anyway the rest of the episode, those two together are magic 💖🌟
@@LittleSkyful 😂😂 Ik I’m sorryyy I just don’t like the way eve is portrayed in season 4 it breaks my heart. Villianelle wants to be with a good normal person that’s why she likes Eve and she’s trying to prove to Eve she can be a good person. But little does she know eve has changed and damn Eve has been gettin so much worse I feel like their dynamic doesn’t work anymore 😭
@@Toxichoneyyy hmm I understand 🙈.. I think Eve changed a little to the end. So I like the dynamic. They're on the same level now, but Eve isn't so angry anymore 😂
It's hard to believe that the show ended. Killing Eve was nothing short of awesome. The acting and writing was fantastic and the characters were complex and unforgettable. The show will definitely be missed.
When she said she wanted to do the best for the characters I wanted to scream. She absolutely ruined them . How can she say she wanted to do the best by them?
Laura Neal totally failed the epic show. We all waited 4 years for this piece of shit. Anyway, Jodie and Sandra did absolutely an awesome job. They enriched the characters and enlighten the show.
Just ended this atrocious S4, I’m buying the books right F now, it feels like I can’t go on with my life with that finale stuck in my brain ! 😂😢 I CANNOT BELIEVE IT
Watching season 4 puts a lot of “what??!” on my face, so many questions, seems rushed, am straight and married and these two characters deserve more than that rubbish ending. Sad.
Thank you straight and married person who now has understanding of what it is like for us lesbian/bi-sexual women to be 'played with' and emotionally crushed by MOST media....💔
its actually impossible for them to have ruined a show this horribly, like how tf do u ruin it, this entire season has just been so ugh and sh** and the finale was so bad omg. im just gonna live with the book ending instead lmao
I hated the ending I’m sorry I cried and it wasn’t happy tears. I hear they are making a spin off about Carolyn and I sure hope at the end of her season WE find out villanelle faked her death so she can kill Carolyn.
Honestly I don't think that'd even redeem it if Villanelle faked her death. The idea that the two of them were finally happy and then Villanelle decided to pretend to be fully dead and do that to Eve, just to try get to Carolyn? I don't think there's a good situation here, this has done too much damage.
I do not think this season showed the depth in Villanelle. She is so much more and it took half the season before we got to see her amazing character. I love the series but was disappointed both at the end and that villanelle ended up in the background. I almost wish I did not see the end. Because I can not stop thinking about it. Where is the depth that we saw in the other seasons😭😭. The actors was perfect as always.
I really hope Laura never lands another job as a writer. She might be talented for burger flipping or cleaning toilets, so she should explore those careers maybe.
The last episode was such a cliche. The fortune telling scene was the worst - every tarot reader knows Death is a positive card and yet the girl reading looked horrified. As soon as Eve got the Death card I knew the writers were dumb enough to suggest Eve was going to die which means Villanelle was the one that was going to die. Poor, poor writing.
I am still confused that.. at the end of Season 3, Eve and Villanelle walked to each other on the bridge to show the trust and true love, everything is perfect. Then what changed in the beginning of Season 4? Why they suddenly broke up, what happened? They never explained it in the show..
I’ve got to be honest the whole of the 4th season is just a monstrosity. It’s like they completely scrapped everything that has happened leading up to this season and just decided to do what they want. The way season 3 ended villanelle was mature, rational and really grown as a person. But then the way they started season 4 it was like she had gone back to season one, if not worse, she was almost like a toddler incapable of being away from Eve. All that maturity was completely gone and we got no explanation why, we have no idea what has happened between season 3 ending and season 4 starting and are left utterly clueless because they are almost entirely different characters. Then all of a sudden villanelle decided she didn’t want Eve anymore, even though the whole of this season she had been pining for her and now Eve wants her she’s just become mature again for no reason. Then in the last episode we finally start getting back to how the characters were behaving towards the end of season 3, but then they go and kill villanelle for absolutely no reason. There was no need to kill her and even if they did really feel that was the way they wanted to end it they should have at least killed Eve as well. Because villanelle was no longer a threat to anyone and any threat she was, Eve was just as much so. You could argue that it was to resolve past issues but they had a multitude of opportunities to kill her in the past and they never did so why now, it just doesn’t make sense. The 4th season from beginning to end was just an utter shambles and even the actors knew it, you can see in the interviews that Jodie wasn’t happy with the end but she isn’t able to say anything about it because she has to support the show.
I so agree with what you say about V showing an evolution for Eve’s sake at the end of S3 only to crush it all in S4… I also think that all that drag-Jesus story was nonsense, did they want to show V having hallucinations or what? I still don’t get it 🤷🏻♀️
Adding to this if they really felt there was to much baggage with the character of Villanelle that they had to kill her then eve should have been killed as well as she knew just as much if not more information of the 12 and their past as well as Carolyn’s play in the whole unraveling of the end. It was poorly written and left with so many holes. Also so many new characters were Introduced to further the show to absolutely no where, and leave more open ends. The last season was an extreme let down to such a good series with so much more potential.
I'm just listening to them talk and I'm like "are you geaeinv yourself"??? They actually believe they did a great job Holy fck. Even Sandra speaking about it like they have created a masterpiece (:
I was never satisfied with the ending but very satisfied of how Comer and Oh portrayed their characters, what a versatile actresses!✨🙌🏻💖 Damn, we deserve a happy ending atleast.
The ending was not satisfying at all if Villanelle was going to die have Eve swim back down find Villanelle and die together and/or let them live and ride on together boy Laura messed this up!
they literally gave them everything and took it away for no reason in 2 seconds. v was about to live happily and with love, the thing she’s wanted for all 4 seasons. it’s what it’s all been building up to. eve is left with absolutely nothing. what was her complete character change and growth for then?? it makes no sense. WHAT WAS THE REASON?
Its not even the ending of the show that sucked it was the whole season, I swear Villanelle and Eve were in hardly any scenes together, we only got good stuff in the last episode and then she died. The season was just Eve getting with everyone she could except villanelle, bringing a random girl into it that ended up killing one of the best characters?!, the twelve randomly dying so easily when I thought they were so powerful, and why did they have to bring religion into it, i feel like Villanelle lost all of her power, baddass and strength from her character. And common why was it just a random person who we don't even know that killed villanelle, like why wasn't it Carolyn herself or a big plot twist or maybe no death at all. The season was just a whole lot of nothing and now im gonna go cry again and re watch my favourite and good moments of them.
Laura Neal: You ruined my favorite series.. The series from an average of 9 points over 3 seasons, went to 3 in yours. It is incredible that somebody pay you for this.. I wish nobody else hired you again.
@Jon Allred says below "My only consolation is the episode of Mythbusters where they prove bullets don't travel more that 18 inches through water. They disintegrate." So, there you go. We reject Laura Neal's reality and substitute our own. Villanelle's ALIVE and she and Eve are living happily every after :)
All actors understand their characters so good but Laura is absolutely wrong omg what a tragic fail for this beautiful, dark, atmospheric and stylish show 😖
I just randomly watched the last 2 seasons of Killing Eve. Yeah the ending was hard but it got such a visceral reaction out of me and I cried like a baby. I would call that a win
She finds her freedom. Freedom of it all. And that's what we really wanted for her. And it was executed so well. Best thing I've ever observed, even more so cus I related to it so strongly. Will always hold a huge place in my psyche. You can't express it with words. although some how these writers did and had the discipline to not make it the conventional happy ending. And despite the pain. I wouldn't have it any other way and just thank god she isn't real. but instead lives on as a character Integrated as a hidden understanding by Jodie Comer. God she made that character so real. And the artistic flare. and the depth of understanding and perfection in releasing her, for one moment just at the end. I just can't. Like I actually. Speechless. And watching Sandra clearly change not just as a character but a person like she say. Killing eve is so much more. Something more special than just a series. Like pure Art of a generation. It pulls so many beautiful things together, the most special things, in such a special way, and that's really defines killing eve from my perspective. Indescribably beautiful. I love incredible pieces of art. Frick but seriously, my gut told me she was supposed to die, but I just hate it. so full of life, it's just a fricking shame. (maybe she survived haha)
Even Jodie said in an interview she hated the idea of Villanelle floating around in the River Thames and hopes that maybe she crawled out after all. Ha! It’s what I have to believe too 🤫
@@In_time thank you for your reply, I saw that video of her saying that. She's my favourite actress. not just because of that character, but her energy. purest. It must be hard for her to play character that aren't so full of energy, she'd have to mess up her system to play that kind of character.
The way she wrote that ending is atrocious, what so Villainelle completely on her own took down the twelve. I love her but the TWELVE was so powerful I just don’t see that happening. This show needed a 9th episode
deserved better, jodie comer did not deserve this ending for the reason why she is so noticed now, the ending to this show the writing was rather peculiar and strange and nothing seemed right to me what so ever. bring her back and the original writers
I never watched KE until literally two weeks ago, its been a long time since i've been this in love with a series, but that ending... I just couldnt, I've been actually fuming for days with how it ended, I think Netflix in the UK did us all a favor by only having the first 3 Seasons on there, they knew!, I should have stopped after their finale on the bridge. Seeing how many people are severely disappointed by the final season is cathartic to say the least even if im late to the party, what a waste!
Somebody can explain what about with Caroline, I didn't understand her, what were her motivations or even her reasons... Anywau, I do expected Villanelle's dead, I had the impression since S3 she was in constant pain, if you asked if I like the end well I didn't know how to answer that because the series has been lost its sense since S3, Villanelle was never that psycho anymore sooo
So so disappointing. She utterly spoiled it. She got it completely wrong.... without even starting to comment at how sacrilegious she was in the first 2 episodes. Just spoiled the whole thing.
you'd honestly think laura neal walked into the s4 writers room after skimming the shows wikipedia article just outside the door with how much misunderstanding/mischaracterization is present. i'm still so disappointed
Villanelle and eve are shot and they fall to the water with several bullet wounds, but then make it up to te surface, then, they look into their eyes, barely floating, they Kiss and smile each other while their souls are coming slowing out of their eyes and bodies ... I would have appreciated a bad ending like that at least. 😢
SEASON 4 MESS UPS: - Villanelle seeing & speaking to herself as Jesus. What was that? A hallucination because now she’s developed a mental illness? Or was it just some playful comedy for the viewers at home? It wasn’t funny & it was so ridiculous. - Villanelle killing the twelve all at once by herself yet she didn’t have a gun or any struggle. 1 person against 12 people? Not even the world’s best assassin could do that with or without a weapon. So ridiculous (again). - Eve having so much hatred towards Villanelle even though at the end of season 3 they were so close & gentle with each other. Where did this sudden animosity come from? No explanation at all. - The whole ‘Villanelle turning to Christianity’ & completely changing her style & character wasn’t right. There’s a reason we love Villanelle so much, so to take everything away from her character that makes her so loveable in the first place just ruined it for the viewers. If I watch it back there’s LOADS more. But off the top of my head those are the first ones that spring to mind. All in all I am GUTTED at season 4’s ending (& the whole season in general). But I loved season 1, 2 & 3.
This was a very disappointing rushed season like can Netflix pick this shit up and delete out the season it started off like wtf is going on! They wasted like 3 episodes and got to what everyone was hoping for just to fucking ruin it in the end.
its heartbreaking hear that laura neal was satisfied with the ending for the characters considering she totally destroyed them
Laura Neal did this show dirty
“gutsy way of looking at villaneves relationship” It wasnt gutsy it was cruel. she was totally the wrong choice i hate her for this
My heart is broken
TOTALLY THE WRONG PERSON
she failed epic fail
I have NEVER FELT THIS MUCH disappointment at a series ending. So much potential & we were again cheated. It seemed unlikely they could have a happy ever after, but after all that death & killing, but to end with so many plot holes & giving Villanelle such a short amount of time w/Eve was simply super cruel.
Phoebe, where are you?
Your gals & fans needed you.
Right, I thought it felt like a "cruel" ending for the fans.
Totally agree I wanted to cry after dexters ending
Someone said they might be trying to set up for a Carolyn spin-off and that's the only possible reason I can see behind this ending, because as you say, it left so many loose ends. [spoilers] who shot them? why did Carolyn order them to be shot? presumably she knew about the location change, but how? who is she really working for? What's Pam going to do? If it was just a season ending then sure, but it's (supposedly) the last ever season of this show so WHY would you leave it like that, even the 'Konstantin's daughter joining the 12' storyline was introduced never to be brought up again. I'm not going to attack the writer for killing off V because I watched an interview where they _somewhat_ justified that, but like every series since the first it felt disingenuous. Where was the classic killing eve humour in this? V's outlandish outfits? The music? Not _the worst_ season imo, but disappointing nonetheless.
Completely agree, the final season was a disappointment and the final episode a disaster as reflected by the 2.8 rating on IMDB in stark contrast to the consistent 8+ in seasons 1-3 even season 4 was getting 6-7 ratings , how could they ruin it in such an unsatisfactory way.
@Leonora Rilke game of thrones? 😭
ive never seen someone get the characters MORE wrong..so upsetting. she says she wants to do all the characters right by them and by the fans but she did the opposite
Missing the fabulous wardrobe of Villanelle this season.
Seriously...those Jesus sandals?! I get that the change in wardrobe helps show how Villanelle is changing internally, but good Lord.
@@xoyouaremysunshinexo Was that pun intended? If so, that’s brilliant!
Agreed! They had a perfect opportunity when they got on the ship.
missing everything this season.. Laura Neal totally destroyed the series from every angle..
@@angellestat2730 It's unforgivable.
The end positively WRECKED me. Just cry-in-the-shower wrecked me. And I'm a big burly carpenter guy! It didn't need to end this way. Lara just got lazy. She wanted to leave her mark, even if it meant fans would hate it. It was sooo sweet when Villanelle and Eve were in and around the camper van. My only consolation is the episode of Mythbusters where they prove bullets don't travel more that 18 inches through water. They disintegrate.
So Villanelle escaped with just bruises and she and Eve went on to live happily ever after as suspected :)
So we reject Laura Neal's reality and substitute our own. Because she's literally wrong. I accept. YAAAAAAY!!!
They should've ended it with them standing at the boat rail looking across the water to the city lights and left everything else to audience imagination.
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I really think Oh and Comer did their best with what was given to them. I think they were both dissatisfied with how the writers ended the show with how neither have really promoted the season at all.
Except Oh is an executive producer, so it seems she could choose to exert influence.
@@martensjd I think she was finished with all of it...and she may have tried but got rebuffed. Took the $ and ran.
you had two years and that's the best ending you came up with 💀💀
literally what i though, she had all the time in the world !!
I loved Konstantin's laugh...and the relationship Villanelle had.
Laura Neal: Villanelle’s journey throughout the series is about her trying to change herself for the better
Jodie Comer: I don’t think Villanelle wants to be a good person…
The fact that Laura Neal just doesn’t understand this character at all and she got to write her ending is so upsetting … you really can see that Jodie played Villanelle as truly to the character as she could; given she had an absolutely shitty script to work with.
Pov: you KNOW Laura neal ruined this final season
Laura Neal was completely out of touch with what she did with S4. She ruined what was good about Killing Eve
Can't agree more, Jodie acting was amazing like always but the script on season 4 was a mess, some nice scenes here and there but overall all the story was confusing the main characters destroyed, story unfinished, many things started and nothing concluded and introduction of completely useless and boring characters like Eve's new "boyfriend"🤦, what is this man doing in this series I still haven't understood yet. How much time wasted uselessly throughout the season with boooooring and absolutely forgettable characters.
And the fact that Eve itself doesn't want Villanelle to change for who she is. It's really Laura Neal who wants to ruin Villanelle and Eve. 🙄
I can’t even bare to listen to LN speak. Makes me wonder if she actually watched the finale episode as it aired. How could she believe that was the best ending? It seems impossible. The anticlimactic killing of the 12 was straight up laughable and unbelievable. My brain hurts from trying to understand why the hell she was thinking.
As soon as I heard that LN also wrote on S3, it made sense that that series was also pretty shit.
lol I'm sorry but after THAT FINALE and Laura Neal says "Eve's spent so much time with Villanelle, and now she's taken on some of her traits in a way." (0:57) I'm like... I'm sorry WHEN did they spend so much time together???? Because a VERY IRRITATING MAJORITY OF THEIR TIME WAS SPENT APART.
right, i swear they were only together in the last episode and then that happened
exactly, they spent such much more time together at season 2, her comments are just b...shit
Their time was spent in their heads hearts and souls it is possible although never together physically that was the entire premise behind the story this assassin very slowly kills Eve one of the most brilliant television series ever
I believe that maybe Laura tried to do what she felt was right but after hearing her say that Villanelle's death is like a "rebirth" and "freedom" for Eve, it made me realise that she just seemed to completely misunderstand them. She suggested that Villanelle needed to die because of all the bad she'd done, but completely ignored how much she'd developed and changed. Villanelle had discovered that maybe her past had made her the way she was and she was trying to become better for Eve, did that mean nothing? Eve on the other hand, had become probably the darkest version of herself but she's allowed to live on and start again? Doesn't make sense to me.
Completely wholeheartedly agree she fulled misrepresented the characters. Like did anyone else not understand the bar scene about carolyn and eve kinda in a stand off on opposite sides like um when did that happen.
Exactly. It like fans understood the characters more than she did.
Live on all alone who had just lost the greatest love/passion of her life. Not a good ending at all! I was numb and refused to see the ending, yet binged on 1-3 seasons! Can't stop watching!!!
Season 3 ended on the bridge. S4 was so disjointed from that S3 ending - all of a sudden there is this animosity and distance between V and Eve. Bizarre. Like the writers just hadn’t watched or thought about the prior season. What a waste of an opportunity. Shockingly bad.
Producers saying Laura was the right person to write season 4🤡🤡.
Also Jodie smirking while saying she couldn't wait to see people's reactions to season 4...oh yeah she knew we'd pop off lmao.
0:41
Seriously need to pop off for a redo season 4 with a different producer!
Villanelle felt like a bright light, dimmed and reduced to nothing. Her clothing, the humour in her dialogue, and then the finale. There was this power she had in the first two seasons, something feminine, something scary, but it disappeared after season two. Laura Neal's season 4 paled in comparison to its predecessors, Killing Eve was phenomenal because it did something different. It was never what i expected it to be, and Laura Neal absolutely disappointed. That finale was the most cliche spy ending ever, and so many character introductions, so much pointless subplot for absolutely nothing. No payoff whatsoever. It felt like she was running us in circles trying buy herself time before Villaneve reunited. Three seasons of mystery and buildup for the end of the twelve to be reduced to a- what- four minute slow-mo fight scene? Eve and Villanelle crashed the boat with not even a semblance of a plan and neither any weapons. The worst? Villanelle died in a grey tank top. We deserved better.
@Haley_93 I've edited my previous comment. Laura did not do any research whatsoever. Villanelle had hallucinations of herself as drag jesus, its like Neal was making fun of us. Because Villanelle is a psychopath, yes, but she isn't that kind of crazy. She's a trained assassin, and for the larger bit- unfeeling. Tell me why she was such a mess in the fourth season. It's like Villanelle, herself didn't know what she was doing at all or why. Everywhere I look, Laura failed. She was an amateur playwright brought on to finish the show, probably kill it.
@@return_ofsaturn6474 she was clearly clueless... she THOUGHT she knew. She did not.
Laura Neal made Villanelle beige
She was soooo funny in previous seasons. This season was so cold ): really unfortunate
ONE OF THE WORST ENDINGS IN THE HISTORY OF EVERYTHING
Really sad and disappointed
Wish that Phoebe could be a part of the final season in same way, could have being writing or showing up as a second character.
you guys just killed a part of me i will never get back
the way Laura Neal seems so happy and satisfied with herself knowing fans would be destroyed at the ending, and truly how atrocious the writing was is so upsetting
Laura Neal was the worst person to finish out this series absolutely dreadful. Just another killing off of the “lesbian”, how original. Wish I had stopped watching after season 2.
season 3 was great too. I give them a 9/10 to the first 3 seasons, and I give a 3 to the end season. Terrible bad.
100% agree
@@angellestat2730 3 felt basically the same to 4 for me, what did you like about it?
@@floptune8515 From season 3, the episode 2, 3, 5 and 8 are almost 10/10 for me.
Episode 1 was bad, but the rest were fine.
I did not notice any lost of quality vs previous seasons.
Only season 4 was incredible bad in every aspect. I hate it.
I'm late to the party only found it recently. I watched series 1, loved it, series 2, good, series 3 I struggled with. It lacked sparkle and had gone into weird territory. So I quit after a couple of episodes and instead read each synopsis right up until the end on wiki episodes. Glad I quit when I did! The best is def series 1 and 2 imho.
"And the end is.. Sorry!" Yep, Sandra.
EXACTLY!!!!!!
now i'm here after the finale and i think LN should stop her shit about how the pandemic gave them time to make the show better
as heartbroken/mad as I am, your comment made me laugh. Because when she said that I was like so you didn't think the fans were going through enough in real-life for you to rewrite that ending. She did what she wanted to do and called it better. Nobody voted for that! SMH, every time I calm down, I get mad all over again, lmbo. thanks for the laugh though
@@mslucky2.028 this comment made me laugh too lmaoo like....
The fact neither Oh and Comer promoted this season that much just shows you how dissatisfied everyone is.
that was exactly the impression i got as well...
I cried watching this, knowing how it ends.
I am so disappointed with the ending. I felt so happy with the kiss the boom every thing messed up.
But we're not sure Villanelle is gone...I think she survives yet again
@@elinastefanelli7467 nah those were sadly kill shots. Worse ending than GoT 😢😭
@@elinastefanelli7467 Shes DEAD!
@@elinastefanelli7467 nope those bullets finished her. we watched her body go limp 💔
Jodie comer has a childlike voice, villanelle has a childlike persona
We know.
@@damianstarks3338 good for you
1, No,2,Yep.
I know ! I didn't realize her voice was higher normally
there is something wrong with your hearing.......
shame the season doesnt make a single fucking sense
all 3 s so what?
So they had 4 seasons, building up how powerful the 12 were.. only for villanelle to conveniently find them in one place and to single handedly end them...
And with ZERO WEAPONS
Yea I was so disappointed when I watched that scene, so much build of for NOTHING
And we still don’t know them
It was ridiculously stupid but not in a good way. All the season 4 was a mess in my opinion apart from the acting, the actors did a good job anyway with the 💩 they get.
Laura should honestly be ashamed to ruin suck an amazing show… seriously
“Villanelle means the world to me.”
- Jodie Comer
Seems Villanelle meant the world to everyone but Laura Neal…
эти слова джоди произнесла в этом интервью?
How can they say that they spent ages trying to think about how to give the fans a satisfying end to the show when they gave us what they did? I can forgive the ending as it made sense, but it was rushed and crammed into one episode. That episode pretty much should have been the entire final season. If Laura Neal is so funny, then she could have had so much fun with writing the final season as Eve and Villanelle working together, being together and hunting The Twelve. THAT would have been satisfying.
That (Them fighting against the twelve TOGETHER) would have been so satisfying . This season didn't make any sense.
"how to give the fans a satisfying end" which fans is she talking about? not the lesbian/bisexual women who were the true fan base of the show... straight people don't get it. At all. Clueless!
At first I was devastated that I read a spoiler that one of them died, but it allowed me to chose to press stop and turn off the TV right as they embraced on the ship. That was the end of the show for me.
My heart breaks for the rest of you who had to see it with your own eyes. I wouldn't be able to take it. I'm sorry the writer did this to them and us.
Thank you for releasing this, especially for the people who can't see it because they don't live in America and couldn't watch it on AMC when it aired, I really appreciate it :)
Laura Neal has no idea wtf is going on in this show season 4 demonstrates this.
"it's going to interesting...I can't waint to see the audience's reaction."
"Best season ever!" energy.
I feel so comforted how many people were upset by this ending ....
I was screaming when I was watching their actual couple moments in the last episode and for them to end it like that? Why can't we have the happy ending like in the book? I love the characters, especially Jodie but MANNNN the ending was hella disappointing. I was expecting for them to finally be together. LN completely misunderstood Villanelle and Eve :( I'm so heartbroken.
I honestly didn't think I could be as disappointed as I was when game of thrones finished until this ending , it's like give the fans every thing they want and then stab them in the back.
If it is worse than the G.O.T ending then am good, won't even bother watching it
@@graceampeire3469 if you've watched all the other episodes then watch this just stop it with 2 minutes To go and you'll probably love it.
I've watch the season finale last night and I cried all day today. Villanelle was likely to die, but the way she did was really heartbreaking.
I've enjoyed anyway the rest of the episode, those two together are magic 💖🌟
Sandra is really a fan of Villaneve 😅. Jodie on the other hand is more relastic, she and we know it is toxic, but we ship this relationship.
This is way too true lol
I don’t rlly ship Villanelle and Eve
@@Toxichoneyyy whaaat why? :D how does it feel to be the only one 😂
@@LittleSkyful 😂😂 Ik I’m sorryyy I just don’t like the way eve is portrayed in season 4 it breaks my heart. Villianelle wants to be with a good normal person that’s why she likes Eve and she’s trying to prove to Eve she can be a good person. But little does she know eve has changed and damn Eve has been gettin so much worse I feel like their dynamic doesn’t work anymore 😭
@@Toxichoneyyy hmm I understand 🙈.. I think Eve changed a little to the end. So I like the dynamic. They're on the same level now, but Eve isn't so angry anymore 😂
It's hard to believe that the show ended. Killing Eve was nothing short of awesome. The acting and writing was fantastic and the characters were complex and unforgettable. The show will definitely be missed.
When she said she wanted to do the best for the characters I wanted to scream. She absolutely ruined them . How can she say she wanted to do the best by them?
Laura Neal totally failed the epic show. We all waited 4 years for this piece of shit. Anyway, Jodie and Sandra did absolutely an awesome job. They enriched the characters and enlighten the show.
"We pick up from season 3" Im sorry, there was no connection or explanation for what happened after the bridge. Complete bs.
i feel like the writing is lazy and cliche in this season ngl
Fiona shaw really talks like that? Omg I love this.
She is from Montenotte, Cork. This is how people here in Montenotte Cork speak
☘️
Fiona is married to a woman.
@@aleta5873 whhhaaaat ommgg
No i'm still mad at her
Just ended this atrocious S4, I’m buying the books right F now, it feels like I can’t go on with my life with that finale stuck in my brain ! 😂😢 I CANNOT BELIEVE IT
“the best for the end of the show” well is the best in the room with us?
I am going to miss this show. Also 3:27 Jodie comer read my mind on her character villanelle.
The number one series on TV!!!
Watching season 4 puts a lot of “what??!” on my face, so many questions, seems rushed, am straight and married and these two characters deserve more than that rubbish ending. Sad.
Thank you straight and married person who now has understanding of what it is like for us lesbian/bi-sexual women to be 'played with' and emotionally crushed by MOST media....💔
its actually impossible for them to have ruined a show this horribly, like how tf do u ruin it, this entire season has just been so ugh and sh** and the finale was so bad omg. im just gonna live with the book ending instead lmao
I hated the ending I’m sorry I cried and it wasn’t happy tears. I hear they are making a spin off about Carolyn and I sure hope at the end of her season WE find out villanelle faked her death so she can kill Carolyn.
едва ли , но с сигурност ийв няма да и прости
Honestly I don't think that'd even redeem it if Villanelle faked her death. The idea that the two of them were finally happy and then Villanelle decided to pretend to be fully dead and do that to Eve, just to try get to Carolyn? I don't think there's a good situation here, this has done too much damage.
@@AdamGaffney96 Adam honestly that would’ve put my heart at ease rather than killing her. I’m still upset lol
For all I care, Carolyn can have a 'spin off' floating in her clothes in a contaminated lake somewhere...done with that B..."jolly good"...I'm gone !
I will be watching killing eve over and over for the next 4 years
I do not think this season showed the depth in Villanelle. She is so much more and it took half the season before we got to see her amazing character. I love the series but was disappointed both at the end and that villanelle ended up in the background. I almost wish I did not see the end. Because I can not stop thinking about it. Where is the depth that we saw in the other seasons😭😭. The actors was perfect as always.
they should've let the fans have the ending. it absolutely destroyed me :')
I really hope Laura never lands another job as a writer. She might be talented for burger flipping or cleaning toilets, so she should explore those careers maybe.
The last episode was such a cliche. The fortune telling scene was the worst - every tarot reader knows Death is a positive card and yet the girl reading looked horrified.
As soon as Eve got the Death card I knew the writers were dumb enough to suggest Eve was going to die which means Villanelle was the one that was going to die.
Poor, poor writing.
I am still confused that.. at the end of Season 3, Eve and Villanelle walked to each other on the bridge to show the trust and true love, everything is perfect. Then what changed in the beginning of Season 4? Why they suddenly broke up, what happened? They never explained it in the show..
That's what happens when you have awful writing. Season 4 was terribly written.
Exactly Eve hated her for no reason
I’ve got to be honest the whole of the 4th season is just a monstrosity. It’s like they completely scrapped everything that has happened leading up to this season and just decided to do what they want. The way season 3 ended villanelle was mature, rational and really grown as a person. But then the way they started season 4 it was like she had gone back to season one, if not worse, she was almost like a toddler incapable of being away from Eve. All that maturity was completely gone and we got no explanation why, we have no idea what has happened between season 3 ending and season 4 starting and are left utterly clueless because they are almost entirely different characters. Then all of a sudden villanelle decided she didn’t want Eve anymore, even though the whole of this season she had been pining for her and now Eve wants her she’s just become mature again for no reason. Then in the last episode we finally start getting back to how the characters were behaving towards the end of season 3, but then they go and kill villanelle for absolutely no reason. There was no need to kill her and even if they did really feel that was the way they wanted to end it they should have at least killed Eve as well. Because villanelle was no longer a threat to anyone and any threat she was, Eve was just as much so. You could argue that it was to resolve past issues but they had a multitude of opportunities to kill her in the past and they never did so why now, it just doesn’t make sense. The 4th season from beginning to end was just an utter shambles and even the actors knew it, you can see in the interviews that Jodie wasn’t happy with the end but she isn’t able to say anything about it because she has to support the show.
I so agree with what you say about V showing an evolution for Eve’s sake at the end of S3 only to crush it all in S4… I also think that all that drag-Jesus story was nonsense, did they want to show V having hallucinations or what? I still don’t get it 🤷🏻♀️
Adding to this if they really felt there was to much baggage with the character of Villanelle that they had to kill her then eve should have been killed as well as she knew just as much if not more information of the 12 and their past as well as Carolyn’s play in the whole unraveling of the end. It was poorly written and left with so many holes. Also so many new characters were Introduced to further the show to absolutely no where, and leave more open ends. The last season was an extreme let down to such a good series with so much more potential.
I'm just listening to them talk and I'm like "are you geaeinv yourself"??? They actually believe they did a great job Holy fck. Even Sandra speaking about it like they have created a masterpiece (:
I was never satisfied with the ending but very satisfied of how Comer and Oh portrayed their characters, what a versatile actresses!✨🙌🏻💖
Damn, we deserve a happy ending atleast.
The ending was not satisfying at all if Villanelle was going to die have Eve swim back down find Villanelle and die together and/or let them live and ride on together boy Laura messed this up!
Ikr! Like they either both have to die (on their own terms and not bc some idiot shot them) or they both have to live and be partners in crime
they literally gave them everything and took it away for no reason in 2 seconds. v was about to live happily and with love, the thing she’s wanted for all 4 seasons. it’s what it’s all been building up to. eve is left with absolutely nothing. what was her complete character change and growth for then?? it makes no sense. WHAT WAS THE REASON?
Its not even the ending of the show that sucked it was the whole season, I swear Villanelle and Eve were in hardly any scenes together, we only got good stuff in the last episode and then she died. The season was just Eve getting with everyone she could except villanelle, bringing a random girl into it that ended up killing one of the best characters?!, the twelve randomly dying so easily when I thought they were so powerful, and why did they have to bring religion into it, i feel like Villanelle lost all of her power, baddass and strength from her character. And common why was it just a random person who we don't even know that killed villanelle, like why wasn't it Carolyn herself or a big plot twist or maybe no death at all. The season was just a whole lot of nothing and now im gonna go cry again and re watch my favourite and good moments of them.
Laura Neal: You ruined my favorite series.. The series from an average of 9 points over 3 seasons, went to 3 in yours.
It is incredible that somebody pay you for this.. I wish nobody else hired you again.
@Jon Allred says below "My only consolation is the episode of Mythbusters where they prove bullets don't travel more that 18 inches through water. They disintegrate."
So, there you go. We reject Laura Neal's reality and substitute our own. Villanelle's ALIVE and she and Eve are living happily every after :)
Such a shitty ending. How on earth did they think we would be satisfied with this croc of crap! Jodie and sandra deserved better!
Considering that, due to the pandemic, they had EXTRA time to write season 4 and the ending...😑
They REALLY REALLY REALLY missed the mark on this one.
6:00 the fact they asked this question tells you EVERYTHING
All actors understand their characters so good but Laura is absolutely wrong omg what a tragic fail for this beautiful, dark, atmospheric and stylish show 😖
У Джоди даже голос другой в жизни, талантище и просто гений.
I genuinely didn’t think I’d see as bad a series finale as Game of Thrones so soon, but it’s almost like Laura Neal took it as a challenge…
2:52
Sandra says:The end is sorry
TRUE!
It is very SORRY!
I just randomly watched the last 2 seasons of Killing Eve. Yeah the ending was hard but it got such a visceral reaction out of me and I cried like a baby. I would call that a win
I can't see Jodie as Jodie I only see her as villanelle
same
They had 2 years to get it right and they still fucked up. No excuses, the ending disgusted me. I'm livid.
2:06 WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO CONVINCE? US OR YOU
Fiona Shaw deserves more kudos for her work on this show, she was amazing.
Laura Neal purposely went in to ruin this season. Who gave her the keys??!!
She finds her freedom. Freedom of it all. And that's what we really wanted for her. And it was executed so well. Best thing I've ever observed, even more so cus I related to it so strongly. Will always hold a huge place in my psyche. You can't express it with words. although some how these writers did and had the discipline to not make it the conventional happy ending. And despite the pain. I wouldn't have it any other way and just thank god she isn't real. but instead lives on as a character Integrated as a hidden understanding by Jodie Comer. God she made that character so real. And the artistic flare. and the depth of understanding and perfection in releasing her, for one moment just at the end. I just can't. Like I actually. Speechless. And watching Sandra clearly change not just as a character but a person like she say. Killing eve is so much more. Something more special than just a series. Like pure Art of a generation. It pulls so many beautiful things together, the most special things, in such a special way, and that's really defines killing eve from my perspective. Indescribably beautiful. I love incredible pieces of art. Frick but seriously, my gut told me she was supposed to die, but I just hate it. so full of life, it's just a fricking shame. (maybe she survived haha)
Even Jodie said in an interview she hated the idea of Villanelle floating around in the River Thames and hopes that maybe she crawled out after all.
Ha!
It’s what I have to believe too 🤫
@@In_time thank you for your reply, I saw that video of her saying that. She's my favourite actress. not just because of that character, but her energy. purest. It must be hard for her to play character that aren't so full of energy, she'd have to mess up her system to play that kind of character.
1:02 wrong. those traits were always in her
Laura was not the correct writer … phoebe Waller bridge should have been brought back
So this is the real killer of the show : laura neal.
what happened t the brilliant writer Phoebe Waller -Bridge( Fleabag write/ actress) who wrote season !? Why was she replaced? anyone please tell
She wasn’t replaced, she left on her own accord. A lot more lucrative contracts elsewhere.
The way she wrote that ending is atrocious, what so Villainelle completely on her own took down the twelve. I love her but the TWELVE was so powerful I just don’t see that happening. This show needed a 9th episode
"to meet he end"??!?! i feel like they are both going to die for each other😭😭😭
It’s worse.
deserved better, jodie comer did not deserve this ending for the reason why she is so noticed now, the ending to this show the writing was rather peculiar and strange and nothing seemed right to me what so ever. bring her back and the original writers
I never watched KE until literally two weeks ago, its been a long time since i've been this in love with a series, but that ending... I just couldnt, I've been actually fuming for days with how it ended, I think Netflix in the UK did us all a favor by only having the first 3 Seasons on there, they knew!, I should have stopped after their finale on the bridge. Seeing how many people are severely disappointed by the final season is cathartic to say the least even if im late to the party, what a waste!
Same! And agreed!
I need to read the books and see how bad they butchered this season. Season 3 and 4 started so strong, then they fizzle out and it’s so frustrating.
did you really get it right tho Laura... did you?
Somebody can explain what about with Caroline, I didn't understand her, what were her motivations or even her reasons...
Anywau, I do expected Villanelle's dead, I had the impression since S3 she was in constant pain, if you asked if I like the end well I didn't know how to answer that because the series has been lost its sense since S3, Villanelle was never that psycho anymore sooo
Villanelle murdered Kenny, that’s it.
I think she wanted her MI6 job back she couldn’t go back empty handed. But who knows it was a very muddy ending
So so disappointing. She utterly spoiled it. She got it completely wrong.... without even starting to comment at how sacrilegious she was in the first 2 episodes. Just spoiled the whole thing.
you'd honestly think laura neal walked into the s4 writers room after skimming the shows wikipedia article just outside the door with how much misunderstanding/mischaracterization is present. i'm still so disappointed
Thank you!
Villanelle and eve are shot and they fall to the water with several bullet wounds, but then make it up to te surface, then, they look into their eyes, barely floating, they Kiss and smile each other while their souls are coming slowing out of their eyes and bodies ... I would have appreciated a bad ending like that at least. 😢
SEASON 4 MESS UPS:
- Villanelle seeing & speaking to herself as Jesus. What was that? A hallucination because now she’s developed a mental illness? Or was it just some playful comedy for the viewers at home? It wasn’t funny & it was so ridiculous.
- Villanelle killing the twelve all at once by herself yet she didn’t have a gun or any struggle. 1 person against 12 people? Not even the world’s best assassin could do that with or without a weapon. So ridiculous (again).
- Eve having so much hatred towards Villanelle even though at the end of season 3 they were so close & gentle with each other. Where did this sudden animosity come from? No explanation at all.
- The whole ‘Villanelle turning to Christianity’ & completely changing her style & character wasn’t right. There’s a reason we love Villanelle so much, so to take everything away from her character that makes her so loveable in the first place just ruined it for the viewers.
If I watch it back there’s LOADS more. But off the top of my head those are the first ones that spring to mind. All in all I am GUTTED at season 4’s ending (& the whole season in general). But I loved season 1, 2 & 3.
rewatching season 4 again, it is starting to make sense... all the signs were there... i didnt see it coming...
That whole season doesn't make any sense to me. No matter how many times I watch it, I admire you 😂.
Part 2 coming soon?
just posted!
This was a very disappointing rushed season like can Netflix pick this shit up and delete out the season it started off like wtf is going on! They wasted like 3 episodes and got to what everyone was hoping for just to fucking ruin it in the end.
I love this series even it ended like that. It's hurt my feeling but really unforgettable. Still wish they will be together forever.