AnkerMake M5 3D Printer: This is One Fast Printer!
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- This is a solid 3d printer that is extremely fast. My results while creating test prints were excellent. While designed as a plug-and-play 3d printer, it is still a mechanical device and requires maintenance and tuning. Several people in online communities are highly critical of what they see as quality issues with this machine. The challenges posted are common to all 3d printers and generally solved by proper device maintenance described in the video.
The hot end on this printer utilizes a PTFE sleeve, limiting practical operational temperatures to about 230C +/-. This is fine for PLA, PLA+, and TPU but is at the low end for PETG. People running into issues may be attempting to print at temperatures too hot for this machine which damages the PTFE sleeve. This is no different from many other 3d printers that also use a PTFE sleeve in the hot end. The advantage of hot ends using PTFE sleeves is the prints generally string less, which is a significant advantage.
To print at higher temperatures, replace in PTFE sleeve supplied with the printer with Capricorn XS tubing. Just order a full-size Bowden tube and cut it down to the proper length for the tube in the hot end.
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Topics
00:00 Introduction
03:20 Downloading and Customizing Models
04:29 AnkerMake Sent me this Printer for the Review
05:10 AnkerMake M5 Basics
06:24 Secret to Removing Prints Without an Effort
08:11 Optimized X, Y, and Z Axes
10:41 Powering Up and Homing
13:53 AnkerMake Filament
15:22 Hot End Characteristics
18:23 Camera and AI
20:34 AnkerMake Software
22:07 Smartphone Application
22:47 AnkerMake Slicer
29:39 Integrated HW/Firmware/App/Slicer
30:11 AnkerMake M5 Print Examples
37:56 Wrap-Up and Who Should Buy
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This video has generated several strong comments, and I wanted to respond as the issues some people may see are addressable.
Over the past four years, I have reviewed/used over 20 3D printers from various manufacturers. Here is a summary of my perspective.
This is a solid 3d printer that is extremely fast. My results while creating test prints were excellent. While designed as a plug-and-play 3d printer, it is still a mechanical device and requires maintenance and tuning. In some ways, manufacturers do a disservice to purchasers by describing machines as plug-and-play. Every mechanical tool I have purchased, from woodworking equipment to 3D printers, requires that the user check the assembly and make minor adjustments before first use.
In my experience, any device shipped a long distance will likely need a "tune-up" before first use. AnkerMake has videos on its site showing how to adjust the belts and wheels on the machine.
The hot end on this printer utilizes a PTFE sleeve, limiting practical operational temperatures to about 230C +/-. This is fine for PLA, PLA+, and TPU but is at the low end for PETG. People running into issues may be attempting to print at temperatures too hot for this machine which damages the PTFE sleeve. This is no different from many other 3d printers that also use a PTFE sleeve in the hot end.
The advantage of hot ends using PTFE sleeves is the prints generally string less, which is a significant advantage. For example, I have an Ender 3 S1 and an Ender 3 S1 Plus. The S1 Plus has an excellent all-metal hot end but strings significantly when printing. So depending on my model requirements, I use the S1 or the S1 Plus.
To print at higher temperatures, replace in PTFE sleeve supplied with the printer with Capricorn XS tubing. Just order a full-size Bowden tube and cut it down to the proper length for the tube in the hot end.
You can purchase Capricorn XS Tubing here: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PS3NH82
In summary, my experience with the AnkerMake M5 has been excellent, but if you want to print at temperatures above 230C, I highly recommend you replace the PTFE liner with Capricorn XS. Using this printer at 260C to print with filaments requiring higher temperatures will likely be unsuccessful and frustrating. When used within appropriate temperature ranges for this architecture, I expect you will find this machine very fast and easy to use.
For the people complaining about the proprietary nozzles. I've been using my m5 almost non-stop since december and I just replaced the second nozzle.
You can get a ten-pack from Ankermake for 20 bucks I believe, so that's not really much of an issue is it.
And if you do a quick google search then you'll see there are already aftermarket nozzles available on the interwebs including stainless steel and hardened steel nozzles.
I love the in depth reviews. Many people don't want to put effort into more than 20 minutes of video!
It's great to see how far your channel has come Irv. I remember when you just got started and your perseverance has yielded great results in terms of your knowledge and content.
Great review!
I bought my M5 in the kickstarter and got it in december. I've been using it almost non-stop since then and it's a fantastic printer.
What I really don't get it why this printer is getting so much hate online.
I'm sure the Bambulab printers are also great, but the amount of fanboys spewing hate under every video about the M5 is truly astonishing.
I personally enjoy my Ankermake M5 very much and it has gotten significantly better with every update.
So haters can go hate but for me this printer has been a very worthwile investment so far.
Another amazing review.
Really excellent review, I just purchased one on a flash sale on Amazon £399, get it tomorrow.
Thank you for this excellent and detailed review. Looks like a great printer. I'd consider it if I needed a 2nd printer.
Your welcome.
It was such a great review! We're happy to help answer any questions that may arise as well. - Kiki Chen from the AnkerMake Team
Thankyou for such detailed and thorough review. I had a quick question though. If there a cost to the cloud and camera app streaming?
Amazing video thank you! I probably miss heard you, but I just confirmed I can use the camera ai with gcode files imported from cura providing I import them into the slicer mode and then move to print from the preview mode instead of simply loading from the device screen. Adaptive layers plus the ai with a well lit set up for the camera + filament that contrasts with the bed color makes make me a very happy consumer
I love your video. Im new to 3d printing and i love my Ankermake M5. Because of your vid im definitely subbing to your page. Also how did you get 6g on your phone lol
So glad you're loving your M5! Let us know if you have any questions. - Kiki Chen from the AnkerMake Team
It looks like it makes great prints but lower temp range and the non-standard nozzle size me hesitant. I really using like using plated copper nozzles because I have yet to have one clog even between material changes
Video of the print in the slicer under Device is working in the newest update now.
the 'problem' with bedslingers is that they don't scale up as well when it comes to speed in regards of the print size. like say.. at the end of the print you're slinging not the bed, but bed + 500g or whatever your very big print(tm) weighs.
in 20x20 usual prints it doesn't really matter that much.
Good observation
In your opinion Sovol SV06 vs AnkerMake M5 wich is better ??
How do ya enjoy this printer
I think it would be quicker to cool it down when you removed the magnetic sheet with the print as it does not transfer heat from acctual bed.
That can sometimes warp the bottom of your prints if you want them completely flat
Correct
I have a dorm room fridge with a steel front next to my printer. I pull the magnetic sheet and print off and stick it to the fridge. Cools down very quickly.
So is it running Klipper? On my old Sunlu S8 I upgraded to klipper and my Sunlu which could only print at 60mm a sec now prints very wall at over 115m/sec with better quality. Also on my Neptune 2 I am easily printing at 125m a sec. So if the Anker is using Klipper I'm not surprised that that only is an improvement. And my older printers are using noiser motors, and a cheap extruder. These new printers coming out are really exiciting!
No it runs a custom optimized version of marlin on one CPU and Linux with custom code to handle the camera and AI capabilities on another CPU.
@Make With tech Hi, I noticed you said the V6 is a "Palette style multi color setup". Did AnkerMake tell you that? Because they're being very secretive about how it's going to work in their own Discord server. And the main selling point of the V6 is that it's supposed to be able to print multicolored prints without needing to make a transition/purge tower wasting filament in the process. And the Mosaic Palette does not achieve that, it does rely on trying to purge the previous color out of the nozzle between every color change..
I guessed. If the slicing is precise enough you should not need a tower.
Is this 3d printer able to be upgraded to run multiple colors
Do ya still use this printer
do you try only PLA?
I would try their filament on other printers to see if it really is better filament.
Good idea. Thanks.
'better' is relative. It's faster-melting filament (I've tested it).
@@Geoff_W Which brings on a whole new batch of questions:
A - (Faster melting): Does this mean that it requires a lower temperature?
B - Are the seams between layers close to invisible as they say and if so, are the item's height as specified?
@philnelson2364
1. It's actually an extremely wide range. I've seen it print anywhere between 190°c and 240°c fairly reliably. 240°c is actually what the current record holding speed benchy for a stock M5 in the speedboat challenge prints at. That said, if it SITS at 240°c it burns a tad, so 235°c is the practical maximum, but it is impressive it can be printed so hot.
2. It seems to behave as expected, not slopping around or anything like that.
3. I found the filament is actually EXTREMELY hygroscopic. If not dried/kept dry, it starts to string like crazy and pop after just like 3-4 days in the open.
I think there's a typo in the thumbnail, just a heads up
There was. THANK YOU. It is fixed now.
Shalom Aleichem Mister Shapiro,
*i'm having issues these past days; i'm not sure what's the Latest cheap Printer with Larger bed that has the Latest Updated Attachments and Components on the Market that i should Buy*
i've looked into Many 3D Printers with Larger print Beds.
Which one would you Personally Recommend for a Beginner in 3D Printers, But an old Metal Caster with Experience? i'm Looking into the Latest 3D Printers with Large beds that are Cheap.
Cheap, reliable, and large format do not go together. I am a big fan of the Sovol SV06, and the SV07 is basically the same device with a large print area. The FLSun V400 is another good large format printer, but it is quite a bit more expensive. The V400 is also very fast. Finally, you may be able to get an Ender 5 Plus at a reasonable price since it is being replaced by the Ender 5 S1 line of devices.
@@MakeWithTech Woah never Heard of the Sovol Brand, Creality is the most Talked about Because of their Advertising Game, i was about to buy the Ender 5 S1 The next Friday, You Saved me around 200$ THANK YOU!!
Wow they built in proprietary nozzles-10, they have cameras and connections probably back to Anker....
I understand your concern. Unfortunately many of the new higher performance printers use some proprietary or non standard parts.
This looks like a nice printer, but $700 is a lot to spend for an average sized Chinese bed slinger. For that price, I'd probably go for the Bambu P1P.
Didn't Anker have a customer security issue with storing customer videos and data without the customers knowing?
They did. Which is why the M5 makes a point of using an AWS instance in your region. That said, this is not a security device. Why should I care if someone’s knows what 3D models I am printing.
Would I use a cloud connected device in a secure location, no. Would I use it for printing hobby prints or even business prints that are not sensitive, yes.
If you prints are sensitive then do not connect to the internet and print offline - which is supported.
@@MakeWithTech This is a ridiculous argument. You now have a device inside your local network fully controllable by a (foreign, but that's a detail) company that may use it to attack other devices on your local network. Gone is the protection added by a firewall on your internet router. People don't seem to realize that any such "cloud device" is basically the equivalent of a Trojan horse. The same by the way holds for apps you install on devices that get onto your local network, so also there I dislike a printer that requires me to install something on my smartphone. This is similar to just inviting a bunch of strangers to stay in your house and hoping that there aren't any with bad intentions (or even just dumb enough to be manipulated by someone else with bad intentions) amongst them.
Can ya get an quieter fan
Do you have to use wifi
No. You can print locally from a USB-C key (Flash Drive). Please note this is USB-C, not USB-A the more common USB Flash Drive format
This guy looks good for a 67 year old. I am sure he doesn't smoke nor vape any kind of grass😂
I got in on the Kickstarter for the M5 at 499 USD, mainly though, because of the promised V6 "Color engine" that will also function as a filament dryer for up to 6 spools (Even cardboard ones 😏). AnkerMake are presently (still) working on having it released, now by the end of this year (Yes, very delayed). But if it works as advertised, it should be well worth the wait, as it will make the Bambu AMS look downright stupid in comparison. And I've heard from semi independent parties in the know, that it _actually_ delivers on its promise: Multicolored printing _without_ purge tower! Meaning that _if_ the V6 pans out as planned, this combo should become the obvious choice for anyone looking to do multi-color prints. Well, anyone who doesn't want to flush money down a Bambu's "poop chute", and can make do with "just" 6 colors. 😅
It's not all rosy red though, and as Irv pointed out, I too got to learn from the AnkerMake Discord that the problems with the state the printer shipped in/arrived at my door, was unfortunately not a one-off. AnkerMake had, or even seemingly _still_ have, a quality control problem (mine was one of the last printers shipped from the Kickstarter batch).
Still, the issues I too encountered with loose belts and too tight V-wheels were fairly straight forward fixes that is something all makers will have had to deal with sooner or later anyway. So it's not the biggest deal in the world, just a shame that on AnkerMake's printers, at least for now, these issues seems to be, for a lot of their customers, much sooner rather than later.
All that said though, I can't help but being impressed with the printer. Even with the loose belts and too tight wheels it produced one of the better Kickstarter models I've seen, with great overhangs all the way down to 15 degrees, and only the 0,2mm clearance peg remained stuck in the model off the build plate, whilst the dimensions were spot on in all axis. Which is probably why it passed the "quality control" even in it's state. And it is these quality prints produced at even these high speeds that now makes it my go-to printer (out of my 7 others).
Something Irv did not mention in this review is that the 500mm/s max speed was actually not the max speed the printer shipped with. This is due to a recent firmware update that brought it up from "just" 250mm/s (and acceleration up from 2,5k to 5k mm sq). A Benchy of good quality that the M5 at 250mm/s spent 44 minutes printing, now only takes 30 minutes. And an OK looking Benchy it will finish in just ~17 minutes. And if the appearance isn't much of a priority at all, there are guys in the Discord server now doing Benchys in less than 10 minutes!
So the speed is there, and so is the print quality, even at high speeds. The only problem left now as I see it for potential buyers aside from AnkerMake needing to step up their QC game, is the price. It might be easy for me to be happy with my purchase at "only" 499 USD. But for 799 USD and for now only a _promise_ of a better "AMS" sometime in the future (which will likely be quite a bit more expensive than Bambu's AMS), I'd probably choose the P1P as "everyone" else seems to be doing as well. However, that picture did skew more towards a draw this Easter when AnkerMake had the M5 on sale for 599(!) USD. And at that price I think it deserves another look.
So, in it's current state there are a few things not great about this printer. But luckily they're all fixable. And there are quite a few things to like about the M5 like the ease of use. I'm not sure I should mention the noise though, which _is_ one other area where the M5 has a P1P beat. Because even if better, the M5 is also not really a printer you want to sit next to while it's working. People like to sneer at its and its likes' slinging beds. But it is these slinging beds' low center of gravity that allows them to not produce vibrations like a washing machine during the spin cycle. One might not want to be in the same room as the M5 while printing, but a P1P is something one ideally has a garage, or shed, for.
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Thanks for your report. Unfortunately a cloud based setup is an absolute nogo for me no matter how good it prints.
It has a USB-C port for a USB-C stick to transfer files
Thank you for your comment. You are correct. You can print locally.
@@MakeWithTech Thanks Irv, I realize that. But some features rely on cloud services. I have seen multiple times manufacturers dumping their services after some time, crippleing the functions of the equipment. Any cloud is an absolute showstopper for me.
Its just a sign of lazy, cheap developement in my opinion.I really love your channel, but on this we just have a different point of view.
Cheers
Wilhelm
Thank you for your transparency here! We're happy to help answer any questions or concerns regarding a cloud based setup if ever needed as well! - Kiki Chen from the AnkerMake team
@@AnkerMakeBrandTeam Can I ask....Can we have the message dialogs that appear on the LCD screen, mirrored to the Ankermake app, so, eg, we can see why a print hasn't started... I sent one the other day, and when I went to check, there was a message on the screen saying "please clean the bed before starting a print", which I already had before sending print over.
I thought they claimed to print 5 times faster???😢
It is printing a straight line 😀 My numbers were for normal mode using real models. Fast mode is much faster but in either case it is model dependent.
5x what? they put others at "50mm/s" anyway which is quite laughable when replicator 1's were pushing 120mm/s a decade ago.
anyway acceleration would matter more in the example model they have for their claims than the top movement speed.
as per their website the 5x claim is that 250mm/s is 5x 50mm/s.
anyway it runs marlin, but parts are only for it.
Nice video to much fuss Wufi phone etc but great descriptions
From the first minute of this video, I knew it was a paid review. Even if your review is genuine, you went about it wrong. In how many of your printer reviews did you start with such a glowing description of the company, going through their whole product line and outlining their valuation? Clearly you were given talking points.
I like the printer but can't take this review seriously.
Why have you never tested the Bambu printers?.... you mention the P1P and compare it because it doesn't have a touch screen? That is literally the only feature Anker has that is an advantage over the Bambu... Everything else on the Bambu is superior. For a business this printer is definitely not a good choice for these 2 reasons PLA only and the slicer is lacking.
They haven’t offered me a review unit. I have asked.
I do not see this as a PLA only printer and expect you will see an all metal hot end in the future. Currently it is appropriate for PLA, PETG, TPU and a variety of PLA plus filaments.
Each printer has advantages and limitations. My job as a reviewer is to share my observations so my viewers can make a choice.
I really appreciate your comment as it adds to our ability to learn together.
@@MakeWithTech Irv... I really like your approach and focus on education. You have a great channel and I recommend it to anyone who is new to printing. You helped me start my obsession with 3D printing. I think your channel would benefit from a Bambu review enough to justify purchasing one.
@@jameskiely5518 His name is Irv, not Herb. :)
@@tradde11 my bad
@@jameskiely5518 Easy enough to mis-hear it when he says it. No offense meant.
So many commercials on your TH-cam videos I gotta Stop watching. To bad, liked your stuff.
As a 3D printing enthusiast, I Would never buy this Dumpster fire printer!
Interesting. You must see something I do not.
Would like to hear your reasoning. You give no details on why or facts.
Hi great video do you have an email address sir I can send you some questions about my ender 3s1 pro l. Thanks again
David
the very and more important part you might left untouch is the lack of tech support i was about to buy one and i saw the review and many people its stuck with a very impresive useless printer kickstarters there is no support from them you spend 1000 dlls for a perfec t useless printer like MY wIZMAKER PI1 COMPLETLY USELESS I NEED A PART AND THERE IS NOWAY I CZN FIX MY PRINTER
BECAUSE NO TECH SUPPORT IF I COULD IWOULD TYRADE MY KICKSTARTER PRINTERS FOR A PRUSA AT ANYTIME