Magnus v Levon & Alireza v Grischuk In Winners SF! Julius Baer Generation Cup DIV I

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  • @boinkdoink4512
    @boinkdoink4512 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    J seems like an excellent fellow (and is an incredible esports commentator) but does not have nearly the strength to commentate this level of chess insightfully or compellingly. This is not a knock on him but rather a knock on this lovely company which should have MORE than enough money/resources to get qualified commentary.

    • @Alzoryne
      @Alzoryne 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you’re assuming everyone has the spare time all the time. consider other commentators have life to deal with, are commentating other tournaments or simply not interested

    • @boinkdoink4512
      @boinkdoink4512 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@Alzoryne ​ You're assuming that out of a large pool of qualified individuals, all of them have to be free 24/7 in order for one of them to commentate this event. I am assuming at least one of them happens to have some spare time that overlaps with this event. This was a conscious decision by the organizers, not a necessity based on a lack of options.

    • @Orwaha
      @Orwaha 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@boinkdoink4512Well stated.

    • @TisOneBlood
      @TisOneBlood 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      John is a likable guy. But he does look like he’s just lost sometimes.

    • @julianhodgson1961
      @julianhodgson1961 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Couldn’t agree more - I would say a strong FM is the absolute minimum requirement to commentate on players who are basically the best of the very best.
      I should just add that my favourite commentary duo is Tania with Peter Leko - such a humble guy and someone who back in the day I was lucky enough to play five classical games with:))

  • @kunalgub
    @kunalgub 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    There are so many GMs who are available outside the top 30. Give them a platform to do commentary too

  • @Uragaan1
    @Uragaan1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Man the chess scene has really popped off. Seems like there were literally no GMs available to commentate this big event. Really amazing how far chess has come!

  • @holy42cosmos
    @holy42cosmos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Justice for Daniel and Hess

    • @gregansbootstrap5352
      @gregansbootstrap5352 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What happened to them

    • @holy42cosmos
      @holy42cosmos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@gregansbootstrap5352 we want them back and not these jokers as commentators

    • @astudent3937
      @astudent3937 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They might have taking some rest as they just commentate the entire olympiad and some initial rounds of it​. @@gregansbootstrap5352

    • @dennercassio
      @dennercassio 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@holy42cosmos Hej, Tania is an IM and just won the Olimpiad playing for India. Your comment it's what is a joke

    • @holy42cosmos
      @holy42cosmos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dennercassio I don't care. Daniel and Hess are GM and best at commentary

  • @rahullakhotia924
    @rahullakhotia924 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    If you have alireza vs grischuk in the title , then the least you could do is show their games. I know Magnus is Magnus but common you can't just show only his games!!! Show more respect to your players

    • @alvisiddiqui5739
      @alvisiddiqui5739 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was followed by them... what are you talking about ?

    • @Bennerboi
      @Bennerboi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Alireza beat Grishuck quite quickly, so for a long time it was only Carlsen vs Aronian playing :)

    • @414aliha
      @414aliha 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​​@@Bennerboihe is completely right .. they didn't show none of Alireza's games .. the first game was completly Magnus , the scond and third game was few minutes Alireza then they moved to Magnus and we didn't see the ending .. and the fourth game Alireza was already through so again magnus

    • @davidwiederman8841
      @davidwiederman8841 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Umm. Magnus is the best player in the history of mankind. The fact that they ever go off of his game when he’s playing blows my mind.

    • @IncontenentiaButtux
      @IncontenentiaButtux 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidwiederman8841 Somehow both of you are wrong and that is impressive

  • @alexwhite9614
    @alexwhite9614 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Inappropriate to have non-GMs giving commentary here.

    • @IncontenentiaButtux
      @IncontenentiaButtux 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Inappropriate of you to have never heard of logical fallacies

    • @srimati_radharani_das
      @srimati_radharani_das 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@IncontenentiaButtux what wrong did he say?

    • @phonex6918
      @phonex6918 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@IncontenentiaButtux he is right

  • @ermesslavoi1649
    @ermesslavoi1649 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    it's always magnus vs alireza in the final every time

    • @biratdatta
      @biratdatta 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Alireza is going to surpass Magnus not gukesh Or any Indian GM

    • @nikhildawani2913
      @nikhildawani2913 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@biratdattaNo one cam surpass Magnus ever

    • @blue_red_screen
      @blue_red_screen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@nikhildawani2913carlsen will eventually get old

    • @nikhildawani2913
      @nikhildawani2913 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@blue_red_screen no bro in terms of peak strength and his Max rating that is of 2882

    • @blue_red_screen
      @blue_red_screen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @nikhildawani2913 OK that will be virtually impossible to overtake

  • @genthalilaj6662
    @genthalilaj6662 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Magnus please never quit this beautiful games is amazing to watch him play

  • @damluar
    @damluar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

    Why is an 1800 rated player commentating a game of 2 super GMs? Might as well ask xQc to commentate.

    • @write-only
      @write-only 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      What's the minimum rating needed to comment on super GMs?

    • @bhaskarjyotiborah1576
      @bhaskarjyotiborah1576 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      John is 1800?

    • @builderphill1361
      @builderphill1361 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@@write-only probably at least 2200? Usually they have an IM or GM who actually knows chess well. Not someone who's at best above average lol

    • @Tradingforlife007
      @Tradingforlife007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Blunder is a blunder it can be spotted by 1800 also....so do winning position 🤷

    • @damluar
      @damluar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@Tradingforlife007 with an engine sure. But he can't explain why certain moves are played, what players are trying to achieve, line variations, etc.

  • @SunbeamSmiles
    @SunbeamSmiles 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Omg it looks like white is now winning (because the eval bar jumped up, we have no clue what the winning idea is and won't discuss any moves). Omg another X, he missed the winning move! What is going on!

    • @drbrain4483
      @drbrain4483 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      whats your rating

    • @kunalgub
      @kunalgub 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drbrain4483he’s not commentating tho

  • @mpw621
    @mpw621 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That last game was incredible and very interesting. Tania and the computer found some great variations and Magnus was supper strong in that game. Wow !

  • @rezabayani8582
    @rezabayani8582 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    How could you not cover the ending of the other game when only 2 games are being played

    • @gregansbootstrap5352
      @gregansbootstrap5352 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Literally nobody cares about the other one. Alireza and Grischuk are not entertaining players

    • @MrScrowel
      @MrScrowel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gregansbootstrap5352 ?????????????????????????????????????????????

    • @dhananjaygupta7005
      @dhananjaygupta7005 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gregansbootstrap5352tell me you are 600 elo without telling me you are 600 elo

    • @srimati_radharani_das
      @srimati_radharani_das 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gregansbootstrap5352 watching chess only from gotham?

  • @antonschmidt9458
    @antonschmidt9458 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very entertaining and competent commentator duo! Both harmonize very well with each other. Very good performance, very entertaining. Many thanks to Tania and John. I look forward to further appearances by these very likeable commentators.

  • @yakonlap
    @yakonlap 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Need Peter Leko in commentary

  • @Reversely
    @Reversely 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    We getting Magnus vs Alireza rematch again?

  • @seivad5969
    @seivad5969 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First MVL Ian game was so incredible wtf

  • @kkakdugiman
    @kkakdugiman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job! Magnus beat Levon well. He could've won game 4, but oh well. Now I believe Magnus will beat Alireza in the next round!

  • @Shagon1
    @Shagon1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the logo behind Alireza is 'La vache qui rit' = The Laughing Cow

  • @chrisgemmell102
    @chrisgemmell102 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    These commentators are good. People have no gratitude these days

  • @TheFitsome
    @TheFitsome 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Tanya always comments on Magnus' looks, dressing, hair, messy room, everything! respect some personal boundaries!

    • @Thomasplaysviolin
      @Thomasplaysviolin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that's not violating magnus's personal boundary

    • @mpw621
      @mpw621 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She is having a little fun just showing a little personal side of Magnus.

  • @venkatesanan3530
    @venkatesanan3530 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not Bb8 , Qxb7 Bxg3 followed by Rb8

  • @grizzlygarrett
    @grizzlygarrett 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    John is a horrendous commentator for chess. His suggestions are terrible and serve primarily as filler, so it benefits no one, not even lower rated players. He makes the games borderline unwatchable. The commentary field is loaded. There is no reason for him to be here.

    • @mpw621
      @mpw621 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      but he is a good foil for Tania and Stockfish that give expert analysis.

  • @memyselfandi-hz2tu
    @memyselfandi-hz2tu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Tania carried this commentary team.

  • @The22Century
    @The22Century 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If every host would have a mic sound as good as John Sargent has... music to the ears!

  • @charleslittledale7991
    @charleslittledale7991 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sachdev is a biased presenter. Where are the GM s?

  • @Omnix5393
    @Omnix5393 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Who did I draw?" "GRISHUK!" - levy

  • @zukhrafsaeed9904
    @zukhrafsaeed9904 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah once again Magni vs fire❤

  • @neymar2465
    @neymar2465 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Tania gets more gorgeous every time

    • @write-only
      @write-only 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@neymar2465 dude, go out sometimes.

  • @Chess.tacticts
    @Chess.tacticts 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Alireza could not forget the brutality he faced in finale 😂

    • @414aliha
      @414aliha 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Magnus cannot forget the brutality he FACED either ... In the same tournament when he lost two matches in row to Alireza and became second in Julius Bear 2 sessions ago. wins and losses are part of chess .. no one can win every game ..even Magnus! Grow up

    • @nikhildawani2913
      @nikhildawani2913 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@414alihaactually What alireza Faced in Scc was very more brutal,Magnus dominated alireza in crunch labs masters, 960 challenge, norway chess and In Scc

    • @starz3415
      @starz3415 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@414alihaLol. Magnus wins damn near everything and Alireza has a terrible record against Magnus

    • @Chess.tacticts
      @Chess.tacticts 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@414aliha what was the score at the end. Alireza was not even close . 23.5-7.5 looks redecilous

    • @414aliha
      @414aliha 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@nikhildawani2913 funny that u mentioned Fischer random .. because in that very tournament the only person who beat Magnus once was Alireza.. even the silver medalist couldn't beat Magnus once .. also if you were a blitz player u would've known that if u lose several games in row u can easily get tilted and if ur goal is to be a champion and u are sure u cant achieve it, u kinda let it go .. its ridiculous to conclude that the difference u saw in speed chess championship is their real difference! Alireza beat Hikaru with a huge difference in score but I don't believe this shows Alireza is significantly a better player than Hikaru.. In the crunch lab masters this year, the one who beat Magnus was Alireza.. were u watching the games at all?

  • @bradmodd7856
    @bradmodd7856 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10 minutes is a long wait for the chess to begin, especially when I am watching a replay

  • @davidwiederman8841
    @davidwiederman8841 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Remember the good old days with Jovanka David and Kaja? Where they would actually teach and stay on one game at a time and have amazing in between content. Sad.

  • @Disentropic1
    @Disentropic1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    John is exhausting, I'm trying to think and he keeps talking nonsense.

  • @SamiraMahi-l2k
    @SamiraMahi-l2k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Davis Carol Johnson Melissa Thompson Elizabeth

  • @STALCHESSAll2SuperGMAnalysis
    @STALCHESSAll2SuperGMAnalysis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @arfa9601
    @arfa9601 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely commentators, yet totally clueless in chess.

  • @JadenYukiBruceLee
    @JadenYukiBruceLee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw it moves before the evaluation bar for a possible trap and then he fell into the trap but for some reason he didnt checkmate

  • @ctonyc3
    @ctonyc3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its so comical that one flag is grey. like their country doesnt exist. What is that all about lmfao

  • @WesleyMamie-p8k
    @WesleyMamie-p8k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Johnson George Wilson Cynthia Clark Robert

  • @azhartdm
    @azhartdm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Since when Tania has changed her accent?

  • @Toopa88
    @Toopa88 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chess has such a toxic community. It's cringe.

  • @davidwiederman8841
    @davidwiederman8841 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice lady. Get her off the commentary. Just voicing my opinion and choice. Not trying to knock her. David Howell is goated. Danya. Hess. Leko. GingerGM.
    Remember the good old days with Jovanka David and Kaja? Where they would actually teach and stay on one game at a time and have amazing in between content. Sad.

    • @Thomasplaysviolin
      @Thomasplaysviolin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      why you think the lady should be off the commentary team? the guy is literally lower rated and has less experience commentating.Tania is doing a good job here

    • @davidwiederman8841
      @davidwiederman8841 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Thomasplaysviolin oh. I don’t think he’s an effective commentator either it’s just that was already commented on.