This Negotiation Made Me Nervous

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  • @jimmy2thymes916
    @jimmy2thymes916 ปีที่แล้ว +603

    If I were that guy, I would just sell them on eBay myself.

    • @s.l.sixgaming2154
      @s.l.sixgaming2154 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      He probably needed the cash quick.

    • @thepressurepack3777
      @thepressurepack3777 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      PayPal takes forever lol

    • @speedfreak8200
      @speedfreak8200 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Personally I would be Timothy "Leary" of their authenticity... hope does good

    • @joshl5658
      @joshl5658 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He should just sell the ones that actually had sold listings... make some money and keep the rest thats unknown in value 🤷‍♂️ that way Pete doesn't take on the risk

    • @scambaitnaansense512
      @scambaitnaansense512 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Good deal for Pete that guy did not wanna do 3500

  • @DanielHughes-rf2yf
    @DanielHughes-rf2yf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +126

    I never thought I would spend 20 mins of my life learning about KISS belt buckles.

    • @macslayah
      @macslayah 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Best day ever

    •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Some of those from the mid 70s some KISS fans will kill their grandma over

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's a brave new world....

    • @princesssolace4337
      @princesssolace4337 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Me too and I don't even like their music or the band😅

    • @shadowwoman7605
      @shadowwoman7605 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤣💀

  • @dmoney2015
    @dmoney2015 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    It's amazing how much better this is than Pawn stars. More proof that television is dead and nobody needs highly over produced "reality" tv shows.

    • @douglaswilliams6834
      @douglaswilliams6834 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Much as I like Pawn Stars, I agree. This is better.

    • @jasonlinton9902
      @jasonlinton9902 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yep theres nothing fake about this show like pawn stars just real people buying a selling things its very simple and thats why i love it

    • @helgedell
      @helgedell 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True. Pawn Stars is just annoying. Set up, scripted, invited "sellers" and not at least dumb and written "funny" small conflicts.

    • @MrLemmy2000
      @MrLemmy2000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They still need a Chumley

    • @teetoys76
      @teetoys76 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts

  • @TaylorTries
    @TaylorTries 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    You should make a video where you talk about all your previous risky/big buys and let us know the updates (if any) 😊 Maybe you mention them in other videos here and there, but a dedicated video would be great and easy to find! We’re so invested in the negotiations 😂

    • @yuotueb
      @yuotueb 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      From his ebay feedback, I see he has sold 10 belt buckles, a coin set and the drum sticks for about $4700. He is asking for $660 for a remaining coin set. I presume additional belt buckles might have been sold without receiving feedback and thus don't show up there?

    • @AbeIsLincoln
      @AbeIsLincoln 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I thought the same. He should do an end of the year highlight video of all the most interesting buys/sells. Cut out most of the negotiations. Focus on the product and price/profit. Edit the cost/profit the same way they reveal the value on Antique Roadshow. He could also make videos of him telling stories of interesting customers/flips that weren't captured on video, similar to the way The Car Wizard does it.

    • @Anthony113010
      @Anthony113010 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@yuotueb I appreciate the info .. Any update?

  • @shenanitims4006
    @shenanitims4006 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I’m wondering, do you think he needed the money, or just realized that he had a basement full of KISS-branded garbage and their fan base is rapidly dying off?

  • @weee1049
    @weee1049 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    This guy has the story of where he bought them and knows the product well, he should eBay them himself and Peter should have passed in my opinion.

    • @pekemo
      @pekemo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Exactly. Why would the expert collector give up $7K in purported value by not selling them himself?

    • @terriannrose56
      @terriannrose56 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@pekemoexactly!?

    • @douglaswilliams6834
      @douglaswilliams6834 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@pekemo Probably because he wanted the cash immediately. Who knows why? Car repair, heat pump bit the dust, etc. Or maybe he found a very expensive KISS item that he wanted.

    •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. Peter was smart. He read that guy quickly. He needed cash fast. Peter knows he will get triple of what he gave on Ebay if he is patient.

    • @OurSocietyMustChange
      @OurSocietyMustChange 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@pekemoNot everyone has the money to wait months for the correct payout. Especially in this garbage economy.I disagree with your premise

  • @Chet_Brinkley
    @Chet_Brinkley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Gene Simmons conned all those fans ...!
    He's now living off their stupidity !

  • @bccsivxx-xxivvii
    @bccsivxx-xxivvii 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    On that Kiss memorabilia, that's a hard buy for me. I know the items get more rare with time, but so do the fans & collectors.

  • @greenman360
    @greenman360 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    You know it's tense when even Honey is watching the whole thing, lol.

  • @ilj1259
    @ilj1259 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    At least he didn't ask for gas money . 😅

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did someone say BrassMonkey that Funky Monkey 🐒?

    • @gijsvanderwaal1166
      @gijsvanderwaal1166 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      One dollar more

    • @ircjesselee
      @ircjesselee 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'll give you $401 each.

  • @chickenwing111
    @chickenwing111 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I never understood the appeal of KISS.

  • @wesleyhempoli5548
    @wesleyhempoli5548 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    this was super interesting to watch a REAL UNSCRIPTED negotiation of a niche market 🍿

    • @matimus100
      @matimus100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kissey Kissey fish Kissey

    • @desendean6488
      @desendean6488 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly the las Vegas and the detroit shows are scripted with actors pretending to be a customer

    • @Reynaldo-zr3zc
      @Reynaldo-zr3zc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's what's Intruguing.about this guy..this is all unscripted..real pawn star

    • @baberoot1998
      @baberoot1998 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@StudioModWhat? Are you incapable of understanding simple English grammar? That is what the comment stated...that it was "unscripted". Wow.

    • @StudioMod
      @StudioMod 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@baberoot1998 I must have been half asleep when I commented that. I clearly misread it.

  • @EpicOpMc
    @EpicOpMc ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Kinda feel bad for the guy, but when you have incredibly specific collectors items and you go to sell them to someone who isn't a collector both of you are taking a risk. If he didn't need the money right away he probably should've just sold them himself on eBay. It's certainly a risk for Pete but a risk that has upside, especially if the guy gave him specific key words. Fun negotiation to watch as always.

  • @antinhumppaa
    @antinhumppaa ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I bet the guy knows all the "serious" collectors and has tried to sell these to them already... but no one is buying.

    • @stokjockey2699
      @stokjockey2699 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Bingo

    • @MaxRager80
      @MaxRager80 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep.

    • @holdonC
      @holdonC 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That explains it. If they are worth that much he would sell them himself and know the people that want to buy.

    •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think you`re wrong on that one. To me it seemed like he needed quick cash and knew he was getting "screwed" by Peter but had no choice. Peter will probably triple the sum

    • @nyteowl8069
      @nyteowl8069 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ Well he's gotta be an dumb to leave money on the table because he needs quick cash.

  • @biffboffo
    @biffboffo ปีที่แล้ว +107

    I'm sure the seller knew the market, but these hardcore collectors are always going to be optimistic about prices.

    • @grayparatrooper
      @grayparatrooper 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      too niche ide pass

    • @jimchesnutt7879
      @jimchesnutt7879 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not to mention Kiss memorabilia is a (relatively) limited market compared to other collectible categories.

    •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      KISS merch is a difficult market. It`s really all about being lucky, finding a fan with enough money. This guy needed quick cash and Peter knew it.

    • @andreashaggstrom
      @andreashaggstrom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pete got his money back after only selling 10 of them ($4900).

    • @ReptileAssylum
      @ReptileAssylum 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bang on boyo

  • @G31mR
    @G31mR ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm only half-way through the video, but can't help but notice that....according to the SELLER.....all the same/similar items listed on Ebay/etc. are standard ones worth $35 and all his items are "special/rare" ones worth $800. Call me skeptical, but I'd be leery.

  • @aarond23
    @aarond23 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So like alot of 'collectibles' this guy spends his whole life buying this stuff and colleting and in the end he 'loses' $10,500 of the value that he thought they wore worth, because he needed cash that minute instead of selling them over a month or so on Ebay? I know its why people sell things at pawn shops to begin with, but still a little strange.

  • @brianfrost2695
    @brianfrost2695 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Pete! Just buy some of them to reduce your risk. Let him know that you will happily buy more according to your resale success.

  • @POETICJUSTICE15
    @POETICJUSTICE15 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "you can get $14K" but continued to take $3500. Hmmmmm...🤔

  • @jamnbryan1
    @jamnbryan1 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    if this guy was so convinced these would sell right away for $800 each or whatever, he would be listing them on ebay himself and selling everything in a few days. but i think this is just another case of a collector overvaluing his stuff because he paid retail prices for everything. at the end of the day, i’m sure pete will at least double his money in time but i highly doubt he will come anywhere close to the $15k this guy claims it’s all worth. if he does get that much, he certainly made a deal of a lifetime

    • @carmine_
      @carmine_ ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Ok if everyone thought that way, then these type of businesses would not be around lol thats not how it works bud.. selling them urself, you have to put way more work in.. you have to send them all out… a lot of waiting around and especially for the ppl that need the money right away.. so what u said does not make much sense, otherwise why would most ppl just not do that in the first place

    • @lociflow6154
      @lociflow6154 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm pretty sure he needed some quick money and that's why he went there.

    • @aka-Legendary
      @aka-Legendary ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kiss was a band made to market everything. When 1 uses cheap overseas labor. The more ya buy tha cheaper cost. They made shitloads of all this SHIT!

    • @Bill-vd1ke
      @Bill-vd1ke ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Been collecting kiss stuff for 50 if Pete passes on it he will regret it later

    • @ToddyTornado
      @ToddyTornado ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@carmine_ exactly. Takes allot of work

  • @ziddi2603
    @ziddi2603 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Seems to me that if i were a serious collector of Kiss (or any) memorabilia, i would want to sell it on my own to maximize my profit/minimize my losses.

    •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He needed quick cash. Seemed pretty desperate to me. People having belt buckles from the 70s are die hard collectors.

  • @vintagestereocollector3415
    @vintagestereocollector3415 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Those things for belts worth $14 thousand Hahaha that's hilarious he got you

  • @zombielover317able
    @zombielover317able ปีที่แล้ว +18

    He went from total value of $14,000 willing to accept $8,000 , now willing to accept $4,000, something's not right here😮😮😮😮😅😅😅😅😅 he tried so hard😊

    • @ZAKU-GD
      @ZAKU-GD ปีที่แล้ว +6

      3500 is what he caved for. lol i know that guy was trying to just get rid of his shit to pete. KISS collectible are not even selling at all on 2nd markets. I wish pete would of said no to this deal something doesnt seem right about it

    •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nothing shady here. He just needed some money fast. Yes, he over priced it by 15-20% but thats what you do. He knows Peter is a slick business man ;)

    • @andreashaggstrom
      @andreashaggstrom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Pete got his money back after only selling 10 of them ($4900).

    • @FLYNNER.
      @FLYNNER. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The dude is a Guppy

    • @RonMorisseau
      @RonMorisseau 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andreashaggstrom ''RAINMAN''

  • @LTDan-hu5fq
    @LTDan-hu5fq ปีที่แล้ว +20

    These buckles are not that rare! What is rare is anyone that would get caught wearing one!!! LOL

  • @randallbaker4293
    @randallbaker4293 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Just looked up the brass KISS from 1976 and it went for $500 in G/VG condition. The customer was sighting a figure of $800. His might be in excellent condition which might reflect the higher price.

  • @quickturn66
    @quickturn66 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honey is suspicious about this deal......

  • @elmolewis9123
    @elmolewis9123 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    To get to this level of Kiss memorabilia, I can't help thinking, why? Now if he had Trump Superhero cards... 🤣

    •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The die hard KISS fans are mostly men in their 50s, with a good income, lives boring life and can spend a lot of money on collecting KISS stuff. It`s a HUGE community that has been growing since the mid 70s. Peter knows this and he also knows if he is patient on Ebay he will triple what he gave for it

    • @rainymctrixie1
      @rainymctrixie1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those wouldn't be worth shat.

    • @brolisimo
      @brolisimo 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      must be some kind of obsession based mental disorder

  • @BillyAu
    @BillyAu ปีที่แล้ว +9

    He might get close to what he paid, for the Ki$$ stuff. Just way too much $$$ for mass produced memorabilia!

    • @andreashaggstrom
      @andreashaggstrom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pete got his money back after only selling 10 of them ($4900).

  • @demonicar
    @demonicar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I can’t imagine dropping any amount of money on a kiss belt buckle but whatever floats your boat.

  • @EmeraldHill-vo1cs
    @EmeraldHill-vo1cs ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ha, he doesnt want to knock 20 percent off and flog em to collectors; he's just gonna do you a big favour and sell em for half price. Maybe he wants to get out of dodge before the senile relative or whoever he borrowed them from twigs and calls the cops.

  • @D3cyTH3r
    @D3cyTH3r 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Any chance of an update on these? -super interesting items! (My gut was that the guy was telling the truth, but as others have pointed, he may have been a really, really good scam artist.)

  • @chocolatecoveredgummybears
    @chocolatecoveredgummybears ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "that one is the rarest out of all of them"
    "that one is the rarest out of all of them"
    lol if you say that two times, they negate themselves. huge red flags

  • @robthagod4870
    @robthagod4870 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This was way too risky. I’d imagine Pete lost big on this.

    •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wrong. I think he will double it if not triple. He read the seller very quickly as someone who needed cash fast.

    • @robthagod4870
      @robthagod4870 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ based on what? I looked up eBay comps and they weren't good.

  • @eddieshez3457
    @eddieshez3457 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    22:41 those 3 guys look dodgy as

  • @silvialivick3034
    @silvialivick3034 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Those 3 dudes that left looked guilty😂😂😂

    • @projectj3494
      @projectj3494 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Was waiting for an update about this collector getting robbed in the parking lot…

  • @davidtranmedia5112
    @davidtranmedia5112 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So dumb. Why would you say it's worth 14k. Then go straight down to 7k then 5k then Peter says 3.5k and then get says 4k. Bro walk away. If you say it's worth what it is then don't take it.
    Also Peter when you see someone drop the prices like that then you need to be careful lol

  • @alaskansummertime
    @alaskansummertime ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I can't see how there would be any way to tell it wasn't made last year in a Chinese sweatshop. With that sort of money to be made they can make the effort to make perfect copies.

    • @eliwang858
      @eliwang858 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hope they are all fake, bite it big time...low baller peteie

    • @ZoobleZi
      @ZoobleZi ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@eliwang858 Lol they aren't Pete is a pro, silly boi LOL

    • @spaniardsrmoors6817
      @spaniardsrmoors6817 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eliwang858 If you were the buyer you would do the same, as he said the buyer takes all the risks, I always did the same unless I knew the item(s) would sell for a quick profit then pay what the seller asks. Especially not knowing that market you never buy unless you feel comfortable and as he said still no guarantee he won't lose or may take forever to sell for the little profit he may make.
      If you want to be the nice guy, trust all customers, pay what they ask see how long you stay in business. You would quickly get the reputation as a patsy and taken advantage of.

    • @darklordojeda
      @darklordojeda ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@eliwang858 Yeah, because the cost of running a business is $0 right? Remember the sellers don't have to sell their stuff. They choose to walk into a PAWN SHOP and they also choose to accept or reject the offer.

    • @KarlUKmidlands
      @KarlUKmidlands ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@darklordojeda Exactly, guy was free to choose to take the cash or walk away, I don't think some people understand how capitalism and running a business works

  • @chriscookesuffolk
    @chriscookesuffolk หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't like Kiss. I don't like belt buckles. I do not go into pawn shops. Yet I watched and enjoyed the video and will continue to watch and enjoy many more.

  • @dagorider55
    @dagorider55 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I woulda walked away a long time ago and said I wasn’t interested. I was shocked when you actually paid cash for them all. Verify always before you pay! 16:14 and 20:55 said it all for me! You said it yourself twice. Just walk away from deals like that brother! I hope you made a good turnaround on them!

  • @SmoakinThrills
    @SmoakinThrills 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As many others have said, this channel beats every “reality” pawn and picking show by a mile. People who are actually into this stuff are so tired of the obviously fake tv shows. The people on them are clearly acting, the items they bring in are clearly planted or provided to them to bring in, etc. It’s so refreshing to see REAL items and REAL negotiations. And it’s also super refreshing that this guy actually knows his shit. No one needs to “call a buddy who knows about this stuff”. They just know their stuff. It’s great.
    And when they don’t know what it is, they openly admit that and try to research the items.

  • @ayayron7776
    @ayayron7776 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    *Thanks for sharing your journey of emotions through the negotiation process.😅*

  • @chrism4008
    @chrism4008 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I would imagine the group of KISS collectors is dwindling over time

    • @jking5570
      @jking5570 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly my man...KISS have a very loyal following of middle aged men....but their music wont be listened to with future gens,,,Led Zeplin ect yes..because their music transends

    •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It has nothing to do with the band being active. It can actually grow now they are gone. Like when painters die.

    • @blackjuju5154
      @blackjuju5154 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100%. The market will be flooded when the middle aged fans need to move it on.

  • @bradleykaiser6738
    @bradleykaiser6738 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yeah id pass if it was so easy to list on ebay why would he discount 50% when he could sell it himself for 14000.?

    • @gregoryhawsjr3479
      @gregoryhawsjr3479 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably need cash money. I seen some weird kiss memorabilia like signed concert photos. Sell on pawn stars for litterally 55k.

  • @95PoundMole
    @95PoundMole ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LOL @ trying to justify KISS variants.
    This is Gene's "belt size after a bad Chinese meal" Kosovo buckle, but in blue!
    This one is Paul's "2pm Tea Break with the King of Norway" Austrian buckle.

  • @traydragen
    @traydragen ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kiss merch is so tricky. The collectors have to be dying off no...??

    • @aarond23
      @aarond23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree most hard core KISS fans are now 60+

    • @darklordojeda
      @darklordojeda ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The majority of them just grew out of their teens. Clown makeup and "rebel rock". Most 70 year old people are kinda over their rebellious stage.

  • @mrskipadedodah5094
    @mrskipadedodah5094 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Today I learned KISS fans unlike today’s Rap fans wore belts.

  • @Sparkykelly1
    @Sparkykelly1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You should do little tours of your shop from time to time, like the intro on this vid, that way people watching can get an idea of what's available in your store.

  • @carmine_
    @carmine_ ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I actually truly believed that guy knew what he was talking about and he seemed very trustworthy.. usually you can tell pretty fast when someone is trying to screw you over or someone that is just fake and i know some ppl are good at hiding it and can seem way more real then they r but i did not get that with this guy.. i mean going from 7k to 5k is a big difference, its not like he came down just a little but hey ending up getting it done at 3500.. love this channel tho, ur a good guy

    • @jamnbryan1
      @jamnbryan1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      if your barometer for determining if someone is honest and trustworthy is derived from whether or not a stranger trying to sell you something sounds knowledgeable..you are the perfect mark. "believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see." the best con artists will make you believe they're honest and trustworthy while they rob you completely blind. i'm not saying this guy is a scammer, but just because he talked a good game and put on a good show (which is debatable, since pretty much everything he had pete lookup came back selling for a fraction of what he claimed) doesn't mean he can be trusted. at the end of the day, he has a vested interest (and financial gain) in unloading his wares for as much money as possible. clearly he is a solid salesman. but both he and pete knew damn well that stuff wasn't worth 15k. hence why the guy shook hands on $3500 and pete walked away with the whole lot

    • @bakielh229
      @bakielh229 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamnbryan1 Lmao he didn't talk a good game, he's a pretty terrible salesman actually, which played to his advantage somehow.

  • @BILL_COSBY_ASMR
    @BILL_COSBY_ASMR ปีที่แล้ว +37

    The thing about Kiss stuff it was sooooo mass produced!!! I sell lots of rare music stuff, Kiss (to me), 99% of the items are worthless.

    • @milestonowheres
      @milestonowheres ปีที่แล้ว

      It is almost a scam . There isn’t really Kiss music fans .. just people caught up in a merchandise pyramid scam…

    • @channelthree9424
      @channelthree9424 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re right about things being mass-produced. They don’t have as much value because they’re not rare. I have learned that from years of watching the antique roadshow.
      I grew up in the era of KISS. I cannot name a single one of their songs and the only member I know is Gene Simmons. But I can tell you the name of several Beatles or Rolling Stones songs and not even a fan.

    • @deadguysuperstar
      @deadguysuperstar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Your name has me dying 🤣

    • @andreashaggstrom
      @andreashaggstrom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pete got his money back after only selling 10 of them ($4900).

    • @andreashaggstrom
      @andreashaggstrom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@channelthree9424 Pete got his money back after only selling 10 of them ($4900).

  • @Yinz_Kno_Johnny
    @Yinz_Kno_Johnny ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I don't even like kiss but this is interesting. As far as collectibles, I think other artists should do stuff like this now. Limited runs of stuff

    • @lawfullucyless6715
      @lawfullucyless6715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't like it because it turns into who has the most money not who actually won it. Like sneaker raffles and concert tickets. You now have to buy your place on line....it's just so sketchy. The stuff just sold at shows I like ❤

    • @OldsmobileCutlass1969Va
      @OldsmobileCutlass1969Va ปีที่แล้ว

      They were sold at concerts... So I'm thinking a couple of thousand for sale at each concert. That's a LOT of buckles!!!

  • @lisac.7673
    @lisac.7673 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    my only concern would be is are Kiss fans a dying breed?

  • @appolop8273
    @appolop8273 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why is this guy trying to sell you these KISS items? If they are really worth money, let him sell these items himself. Don't even make him an offer. From, 14k, to 7k, to 5k to 4k? Stop apoloigizing. Stay away!!!!

    • @romlemmon
      @romlemmon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No idiot will buy them too, he stated only one other person has one of things, so if he really the only person collecting this trash How's Pete gonna sell it for thousands. Best off steering clear

  • @adamshinbrot
    @adamshinbrot ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kiss collectibles = Beanie Babies

    • @ilj1259
      @ilj1259 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really Beanie babies was a passing fad aimed towards kids and moms. Kiss is action figures and music related.

  • @MissKatieLane95
    @MissKatieLane95 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Polish People Unite! Love you Peter❤❤❤ from Poland 🇵🇱

  • @shawnrodgers2180
    @shawnrodgers2180 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The dude probably has them on eBay and he's not selling any. Probably why he came to Pete to get rid of his eBay merchandise

    • @projectj3494
      @projectj3494 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Funny if the prices they were seeing online were actually the customers eBay account..😂

  • @jordiurlings6016
    @jordiurlings6016 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The right thing to do here was to pay him 3500 + 100 or 200 for him giving you all the exact item details which are part of the future selling price and item description.
    The poor guy sold all his collection giving him a bit more for his knowledge I'm sure would have lifted him up a bit.

  • @bouncerslabrealnature9143
    @bouncerslabrealnature9143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kiss items still sell around here but they sell very slowly now. 10 years ago we could get 100 times what we get now. ⚠️🤔 The prices have dropped drastically and the interest just isn't there anymore.

  • @ZAKU-GD
    @ZAKU-GD ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this gentleman is selling rare niche market collectibles at the trading post expecting to get top dollar, that guy is better off selling that online than doing in-store bidding. so my conclusion is hes just trying to make a quick buck off pete. smh

  • @TheShink
    @TheShink ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kiss = clown rock

  • @TriggerTravels
    @TriggerTravels ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Everything about this 🚩🚩🚩

  • @Calgarycommunitywatch
    @Calgarycommunitywatch 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Always go with you gut feeling . Makes you wonder why he wouldn’t sell them himself on eBay ???

    • @kevinmach730
      @kevinmach730 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Personally, I don't wonder- he probably tried to sell a couple and no one wanted to pay his price. He's probably on every social media forum dedicated to Kiss from FB to Reddit and no one wants to pay what he thinks they are worth.

  • @22stunt45
    @22stunt45 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pete, heard anytime VICKIE'S name is mentioned, you delete it. Because you know you did that girl wrong. SO wrong.
    Shame on you Pete. Shame.
    I'll never watch anothet video from again or buy another product from you.
    I was truly mistaken about you.

    • @ZoobleZi
      @ZoobleZi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't think anyone cares
      I suggest you find someone else to care about that isn't a fossil

  • @scraptheplanet4446
    @scraptheplanet4446 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Really enjoyed watching how this negotiation progressed. You are very transparent about your logic, which in and of itself is very easy to follow. You even offered him consignment which was very fair of you. You are a very fair and respectful businessman.

  • @zegotashalom3881
    @zegotashalom3881 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will give you ten bucks apiece...long live Rock and Roll. God Bless.

  • @Cooldaddio2
    @Cooldaddio2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I wouldnt buy any of those. But Pete must see some potential there.

    • @alenkoka7711
      @alenkoka7711 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You don’t know what he got there he’ll make over 10k easy !!!

    • @andreashaggstrom
      @andreashaggstrom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pete got his money back after only selling 10 of them ($4900).

  • @GordMcknob
    @GordMcknob 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is why these pawn shops make a killing ,,, they know how to shake you down and take your goods for dirt cheap .. I love the way he worked this sucker .. If this poor guy would have sold his KISS stuff on eBay he would have got his 7 grand , plus another 2 or 3 ,, guaranteed . 😂

  • @ReiHost
    @ReiHost ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Baseball Card and Comic speculator markets of the 90s taught me anything made with the specific intent to be collectible and appreciate in value is worthless inside 10 years.

    • @jakestoe
      @jakestoe ปีที่แล้ว

      You might want to look up some of the cards if you still have them..some 90s inserts are pretty valuable.

    • @ptshyu2
      @ptshyu2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jakestoe late 80s to early/mid 90s are the junk years for baseball over produced to make it worth anything

    • @darklordojeda
      @darklordojeda ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ptshyu2 Yeah those were some bad years but it's even worse now because all the products are severely overpriced and what these collectors call "hits" are guaranteed 2 or 3 per box. So it's not a "hit" if it's guaranteed. Back in the day it was a hit because it was 1 in 100 packs for an insert and even more rare to find an auto. The hobby is just for the rich people now.

  • @ramalama9650
    @ramalama9650 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That was a brilliant video to watch and I'm not even into Kiss collectables! One of the best I've seen from you for a a long time.

  • @mitchstaff8281
    @mitchstaff8281 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just think how much they'd be worth if Kiss were a really good band.

    • @MS-st1zb
      @MS-st1zb ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same sound, same chords, every song. Terrible.

    • @darklordojeda
      @darklordojeda ปีที่แล้ว

      It was a gimmick and the fans just never grew up. Shit band and clown paint.

    • @rob-pm7gb
      @rob-pm7gb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kiss is really good live, they sound just like their album.......... HEY WAIT A MINUTE!!!! lol

  • @bigdog2618
    @bigdog2618 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Chromedome is a B.S if they worth it sell them yourself..

  • @VegasAlien1
    @VegasAlien1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had a '77 Pacifica oval Kiss belt buckle with a prism logo on black field. I wore that all the time. Wore it out.

  • @Phantoma3
    @Phantoma3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    23:14 I'm not interested in KISS junk paraphernalia. I'm more interested in that sword.

  • @Nekotaku_TV
    @Nekotaku_TV 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Haha the cat laying there so close is so funny and cool.
    Why doesn't he sell them himself?

  • @Angelo-tx4uw
    @Angelo-tx4uw หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    guy values the stuff at 14k. wants 7K, then drops within 5mins to 5K. I would say GTFO of this deal

  • @paulie-Gualtieri.
    @paulie-Gualtieri. ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Kiss, Merchandise everything, and at the end of the day, it's junk, unless you are a big Kiss fan.

    • @gregoryhawsjr3479
      @gregoryhawsjr3479 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      True. But fans and collectors will pay. It’s just like coins. Super rare coins. I seen coins bought at yard sale for 5$. Sell for 1.3m. There’s a market for anything. You just have to know where to look. Me personally I’m not into kiss memoriabilia

    • @capslock4959
      @capslock4959 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you can say that about anything though lol

  • @garyhenry2546
    @garyhenry2546 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You should list them for him and take 25% and no money invested

  • @SPak-rt2gb
    @SPak-rt2gb ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Remember you got burned on those jerseys

  • @TechReviews2010
    @TechReviews2010 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kiss are awesome but no way I would be paying anything like people are after. Would not pay half of what he is after. You would have to be a diehard Kiss fan in my opinion.

  • @suzanneandrews2942
    @suzanneandrews2942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If that was Prince memorabilia I would have been on Ebay instantly 😆 so interesting that, loved it 👌

  • @GoblinKing13
    @GoblinKing13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel bad for that guy i know a bit about those buckles myself and peter got an absolute bargain there like ........3 to 4 grands worth of bargain off what he paid :O he should have sold them himself on ebay.

  • @Mistyvalentine
    @Mistyvalentine 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I think this is the only time I've ever seen Pete pay too much for anything! I think it is going to take years to recoup that kind of money for this stuff! If it was really worth what the guy was saying he would have sold it himself. He probably already had it listed on Ebay and saw that there just aren't any buyers who are willing to pay that much for this stuff!

    • @kevinmach730
      @kevinmach730 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I agree, it's going to take a while and I don't think he's going to make a killing. I can't speak for everyone, I just don't find a belt buckle all that exciting- unless maybe it was actually worn by someone in the band, etc. As some people mentioned in other comments here, I think he's already knows collectors and in been in collector forums and realized no one wants to pay what he thinks they should be going for.

  • @JCreole
    @JCreole ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Pete needs to let the cat decide next time….😂

    • @EmeraldHill-vo1cs
      @EmeraldHill-vo1cs ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep honey was watching--she's security cat.

    • @CAMELFLAM
      @CAMELFLAM ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably just ended up with Peter Criss stuff only

  • @darryllaviolette975
    @darryllaviolette975 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That guy is in lu, lu, land. He wants way too much

  • @artrogue4150
    @artrogue4150 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dude needed money quick obviously. Otherwise, with his expertise sell them yourself.
    Maybe Peter's store wasn't the best option for him? Peter should do really well with the buckles plus he got the guy's expertise on the items for free. Thats prob worth more than anyone realizes.

    • @Bazim
      @Bazim ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly

    • @ZAKU-GD
      @ZAKU-GD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      exactly what i was thinking

  • @mcthunderstick2374
    @mcthunderstick2374 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Blows my mind that idiots would pay $700 for a Kiss belt buckle.

  • @Slideyslide
    @Slideyslide 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I hope you did alright on those belt buckles. I would be too scared to make that deal on such a niche item.

    • @simonsinistaj1917
      @simonsinistaj1917 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would have never bought it. Just way too specific of a market to spend money on. Literally just me thinking about anyone wearing a fucking Kiss belt buckle makes me laugh.

  • @Guywithcrazyideas
    @Guywithcrazyideas ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Pete made a big mistake.

  • @geoffduke1763
    @geoffduke1763 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Big red flag for me was when Pete offered to list them on ebay and split them 50/50 the guy was like NOOOO gimme the cash!

    • @Masher8559
      @Masher8559 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Not a red flag, its a guy who needs cash quickly else he would not be selling his collection he spent decades building, eBay takes a lot of work and time but over that time you will make a lot more money, however if you are in need of some quick cash you go to shops like these, else this type of business wouldn't exist. Pete him self always states he aims to double his money, with that knowledge customers would go home and sell it on eBay for twice as much, but they don't because it requires time and effort at a time when they need cash right now for bills or what ever.

    • @seriousorganizer
      @seriousorganizer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Masher8559 ...he said he had all day.....

    • @turntablesrockmyworld9315
      @turntablesrockmyworld9315 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seriousorganizer This guy needed $$ quick. He is a serious collector. I sell on e-bay and things can sit for months if not years for specific niche items.

    •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thats because he needed fast cash. Getting all that stuff sold on Ebay will take at least 6 months.

    •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@seriousorganizer He said he had all day to make a list. Not selling them. He needed cash fast.

  • @thomasgentry6201
    @thomasgentry6201 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How convenant guy keeps saying ! You will not find anywhere? How to figure out how much they are worth?

  • @alientruthseeker666
    @alientruthseeker666 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I never knew that KISS stuff was so collectable. I grew up in that time and KISS just wasn't my thing, but it was very interesting to see that those KISS people are still around and collecting! Thank you for a very informative video!

    • @thetruepatriot7733
      @thetruepatriot7733 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its extremely collectable...probably the top 3 most collectable music memorabilia from that era. Kiss is up there with the Beatles.

    • @davidrinehart5924
      @davidrinehart5924 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@thetruepatriot7733 Yeah, but for kiss, the people that collect are getting less and less by the day. Either getting toi old for it or not around anymore.

    • @kevinmach730
      @kevinmach730 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davidrinehart5924 You could say that about any genre of collectibles at some point, that it's aging fan base is dying. I am personally not a huge Kiss fan, but I am old enough to remember them being HUGE growing up and I am not even 50 years old yet. There will be Kiss fans around for a long time. That said, I don't doubt it's collectible, but I don't think it's anywhere near what the value the seller is claiming.

    • @joesmells-t2n
      @joesmells-t2n 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      probably because he releases new stuff to sell everyday hahaha@@davidrinehart5924

    •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It`s mostly the 70s and early 80s merch that sells for a lot of money. The period between 1981 and 1983 is also pretty collectable. Vinnie Vincent stuff is the new thing.

  • @MrRidleyDog
    @MrRidleyDog ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is what I must sound like when I'm explaining to my wife why I need another guitar that looks pretty much like all my other guitars.

  • @matt1074
    @matt1074 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please keep us posted on the sale of these. I'm very interested how much you make. I'm hoping you get the 14k lol

  • @Luke-jx3mj
    @Luke-jx3mj ปีที่แล้ว +16

    When he said 14k meaning he wanted 7k, I would've ran a mile. Spending that sort of money there can be no doubts. The bloke was one of those sorts that pulls price/s right out of his arse.

    • @FYIWDWYTM69
      @FYIWDWYTM69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup he's definitely a grifter..

    • @OldsmobileCutlass1969Va
      @OldsmobileCutlass1969Va ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He would have walked away from my offer of $100/each!

    • @Crosshatch1212
      @Crosshatch1212 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No he spend silly money now he thinks someone else should pay silly money .

    • @upsfordays4662
      @upsfordays4662 ปีที่แล้ว

      You Sound like my ausie friend

    • @iamgabriel5823
      @iamgabriel5823 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can't believe Pete fell for this "used car salesman."

  • @zombielover317able
    @zombielover317able ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The stoner dreadlock white guy was in the background😊

  • @MuchWowMoonBoy
    @MuchWowMoonBoy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Reminds me of Pokemon Cards. Unlimited and Shadowless Base most people can't see the difference but the value changes big time off just some different colors and a different font. I have no idea if those belt buckles are actually rare or is he just trying to trick you.

  • @festerpester5289
    @festerpester5289 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Prove me wrong, but I think you got taken on this one, Pete...blinded by rock 'n' roll!

  • @Imajica69
    @Imajica69 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a pawnbroker for 8 years, and a 30 year KISS fan, this one had me rolling. I mean I don't know if I would've been able to pay out $3500 for those belt buckles. While they were probably worth it, its hard to know if its original 70s first time runs or reprints/reproductions. That would be my major issue with it. Yes collectors will pay big money for this stuff. I personally collect some KISS memorabilia, but am not hard core about it. I collect a lot of different things, most of my KISS stuff is low key like books and posters and photos. So belt buckles, not my area of specialty. KISS put out so much stuff and the original 70s merch can pull some really good money. But the whole interaction to a T was just exactly what I could see happening at my shop. Not having comps for the stuff and having to take the guys word is a hard sell. He really should have done you a favor and just started with one and brought them in one or two at a time over a few months rather than all at once. I mean maybe he needed it all ASAP I guess, but that is something I would have sold out online myself rather than bring them to a resale shop. But yeah as a KISS fan and pawn broker that would have been a very difficult negotiation for sure.

    • @maccusmc
      @maccusmc ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've been a pawn shop owner for 26 years and you're wrong. There was 12k worth of product there

    • @Imajica69
      @Imajica69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maccusmc What am I "wrong" about?

    • @maccusmc
      @maccusmc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Imajica69 exactly

    • @Mike-01234
      @Mike-01234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maccusmc There is a reason he is bringing to this shop instead of selling them himself?

  • @kevinkirkland4577
    @kevinkirkland4577 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kiss aren't a band they're an advert for merch. Kiss is just pokemon for boomers

  • @vatoloco1653
    @vatoloco1653 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Doing co signement 😂 I’d rather sell them myself online and make more profit

  • @s.l.sixgaming2154
    @s.l.sixgaming2154 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I looked up alot of the belt buckles alot of them are going for around 100$ this guy got burned.

    • @eliwang858
      @eliwang858 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good, peteie needs to get burnt, he has burnt so many on this channel

    • @jakestoe
      @jakestoe ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can't tell what the buckles are in the video so how can you look them up??

    • @stopthehatesegregate1819
      @stopthehatesegregate1819 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@jakestoe The names and descriptions?