Is this Australia's 'Wheel's Through Time?'

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  • @jamesaitken9050
    @jamesaitken9050 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought my 82flhs from Dave in June 1982 HE was great to deal with and still have this cool model This museum is right up thier with Ian Boyd WA

  • @paulypaulypauly8011
    @paulypaulypauly8011 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I was very sad to see Harley City go. One of the best customer service experiences I have ever had. That sort of service starts with the owner. Thanks David.

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally agree, that's why we love the independent dealers, they just get it and don't just see the almighty dollar at the end of their rainbow. Thanks for watching.

    • @SusanWillan
      @SusanWillan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bought my first Harley Davidson at Harley city in Sydney road back in 89 I traded an XJ900 an 87 model for a low KMs heritage Softail it's sad to hear it's closed

  • @gibbzy480
    @gibbzy480 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great interview. What an interesting fella. He knows his stuff. Those Crockers are rippers. What an amazing collection he has.
    Really enjoyed this vlog
    Well done 👍 🇦🇺

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey thanks we appreciate you taking time to comment. It is definitely a great collection.

  • @JoelDay-n5z
    @JoelDay-n5z 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow, being around old bikes growing up its always a total joy to see and hear the classics I'm in. Thanks to Dave for preserving these gems of history.

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We agree. It’s great that blokes like Dave are custodians of all these bikes and is willing to share them for prosperities sake. Thanks for watching

  • @23Fatboy114
    @23Fatboy114 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You guys, tripoded out of that beautiful shed I bet.. how awesome is that old sound. Spent many hours and $$$ at the old Harley City. Good on you both, you're bringing alot of joy to us old school bike riders that have been around and can tell "The Stories" love your work, passion, and commitment to all us flogs
    👊😎👊👌

  • @sidneysnottley6414
    @sidneysnottley6414 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Top bloke - Top 'gallery' collection.- Great feature gents.
    He was one of the blokes you saw when you rode over to Melbourne searching for a HD , back when they were as rare as hens teeth in SA.
    👍

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes Dave has been part of the Vic Harley scene forever, his is a dying breed and they will be sadly missed when they are gone.

  • @resurgencegear9960
    @resurgencegear9960 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great show guys. Loved the museum / motorcycles. Well done!

  • @niallobrien4736
    @niallobrien4736 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I miss Harley City and the display of these bikes that were in there. I work close by and loved dropping by and having a browse. Absolutely love Daves efffort in presenting these then and now, if I ever get to see them in person.

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well stay tuned we would love to take a group up their later this year 🤞

  • @trevcrawley
    @trevcrawley 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Awesome stuff fellas....I really enjoy these collections that you bring us and the people behind them....What is it with Kiwis? They just seem to appreciate stuff and they love sharing it with others!

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      100% The New Zealanders couldn't be more open to sharing their skills, experience and collections. We are blessed to meet so many.

  • @flaviohdsgs297
    @flaviohdsgs297 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    WOW
    That was magical what a Shed...
    Thank you 👌

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Flav, glad you enjoyed it mate. Its a hell of a collection. Thanks for your continued support mate it is appreciated.

  • @terencehoulihan6031
    @terencehoulihan6031 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Absolutely great collection of motorcycles

  • @rohantherockwiththerocketh7871
    @rohantherockwiththerocketh7871 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'd love to have a good sticky beak and chat!
    The Henderson and the Crocker bikes are definitely my favourites that I'd love to buy.
    Great video guys and that collection is beautiful!

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Rohan, mate we were privileged to view this magnificent collection. We are trying to organise a Flogs ride to see them later this year, stay tuned and thanks for watching. 👍

  • @markkirkwood23
    @markkirkwood23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Outstanding collection. Thanks guys for bringing it to us👍

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers Mark appreciate the feedback mate. You are right, it is an amazing collection.

  • @63panheadtom
    @63panheadtom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanx for sharing guys,great work.

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers Stuart, glad you enjoyed it, it is a great collection. 👍

  • @FlipandTheBlueMule
    @FlipandTheBlueMule 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    SOME AMAZING BIKES THERE !!! WOW !!!

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes its a fantastic collection Flip. We were honoured to get invited in to take a look.

  • @DeanMillard-r6v
    @DeanMillard-r6v 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great show, great bikes and a little more of Tasmania explored 😎👊

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers Dean, yes we may have been spoilt in NZ but Tassie is still awesome and we still intend to head back sometime soon. In the meantime Annie and Big Bert are doing a great job of showing us the best roads to ride on the Apple Isle.

  • @StephenGrigor
    @StephenGrigor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great stuff

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers Stephen, thanks for the feedback. We have more collections to bring to you very soon.

  • @gasmann6746
    @gasmann6746 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another good show fellas how good was that collection 👍🏻🇦🇺

  • @scottanderson2113
    @scottanderson2113 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bloody Awesome Dave, a man that’s knows a hell
    Of a lot of history. Well done Boyz 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

  • @craighill6164
    @craighill6164 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant should be more of it

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well you’ve come to the right place Craig. We have plenty more collections to visit in the coming months. Stick around. 👍🏻

  • @billybunter3753
    @billybunter3753 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bought my first Harley from Harley City. A brand new 1992 heritage in red. I still remember Tom was the salesman whom sold it to me, and Pedro was there to. Dave doesn't look any older! Cheers boys, Glenn.

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cheers for watching Glenn, we hope you will stick around, plenty more great Biker content to come.

    • @billybunter3753
      @billybunter3753 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs Absolutely boys! I'm with ya's! 🇦🇺👍

  • @colinbrown364
    @colinbrown364 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done guys , thanks for bringing this to us 👍

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Our pleasure Colin, we are blessed to be able to get into this collection. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @wesleystark3877
    @wesleystark3877 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic watch thanks guys, what a gallery

  • @MerrittW
    @MerrittW 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Im speechless guys ❤

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it Merritt, we appreciate your support brother. More like this one to come.

  • @MickOTooleroadglide
    @MickOTooleroadglide 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    G'day guy's thanks for a fantastic show, plus the visits to the private collection in Castlemaine awesome

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cheers Mick, glad you enjoyed it. We are really enjoying bringing these collections to our viewers. 👍

  • @HamosOutdoors
    @HamosOutdoors 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the coolest custom bikes I ever seen. Great it's from Australia also. Well done

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep Dave can certainly create some impressive bikes. Glad you enjoyed the show, more to come. 👍

  • @TimWiticas
    @TimWiticas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    awesome 👍👍👍

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers, thanks heaps for watching, we genuinely appreciate it 👍

  • @BPantherPink
    @BPantherPink 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ❤ Thank You both for bringing us this lovely tour of Dave's wonderful collection... Love your channel and been subbd to you'll for some time now. Much appreciations from India 🙏🏼

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey great to have you join us. Plenty more collections to bring you along with heaps more biker news. Thanks for subscribing and supporting us. 👍

  • @MicahBell_1860
    @MicahBell_1860 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always wanted a Brough Superior, a Vincent Black Lightning, a Norton ES2 500 & a Mike Hailwood Ducati 900 in my garage
    A critic in every town, hey Bert?
    Happy trails, Cowpokes

  • @2wheelsrbest327
    @2wheelsrbest327 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Whitey Paul another great video. Loved Dave's musx oops ! Gallery and by has he got some knowledge. We've got some problems over here in UK that you have. About a month ago we lost a Biker in his 50s who was killed by two young morons in a car driving on the wrong side of the road. Small comfort to his family but he was given Bikers send off as he was someone who spent a lot of his time helping others as well. We're also seeing a lot of bikes being nicked for having undersize number plates. They should spend more time capturing those stealing our bikes or drivers using their mobiles whilst driving. Looking forward to the next one. Ted

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers mate. Yes Dave has a ripper collection and his knowledge is outstanding. As for police enforcing poxy minor infractions rather than taking the time to solve the real issues I could end up with RSI if I started. It’s ridiculous. By the way your number plates are about twice the size of ours, what moron came up with that idea? 😂

  • @theindianfromoz6301
    @theindianfromoz6301 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a great collection

  • @andresinnett4319
    @andresinnett4319 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YES it's a special place , it takes a special kind of dedication to amass such a special collection , and I think you guys done Dave the respect he deserved , probably because you are genuine , I can't imagine Mr reddie suffering fools lightly 😨👍✌

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well we were lucky, Dave was very open and as you can see very generous with his time for us. We definitely respect both his knowledge and his history in the ‘motorcycle community’ and we both felt privileged to get such a private and comprehensive tour of the Harley City Collection. Thanks for watching and we appreciate you taking the time to comment. 👍🏻

  • @swarm270
    @swarm270 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    absolutely unbelievable

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it, it is a great collection. Thanks for watching. 👍

  • @brendangrray8017
    @brendangrray8017 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good stuff thanks fellas

  • @FlipandTheBlueMule
    @FlipandTheBlueMule 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    🇺🇸🫡🍺🥃😜👍👋👋👍 Cheers Mates

  • @roberthocking9138
    @roberthocking9138 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the museum , sorry Gallery, in Castlemaine ever open to the public ? Great video lads 👍 what a wonderful collection . Open day, !!! Ime there

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Robert, Dave only opens the museum a couple of times a year mostly to bike clubs. We are trying to organise a day early 2025 to take a group of Flogs up, so stay tuned. 🤞

  • @davidetchellsetchells4692
    @davidetchellsetchells4692 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love Moto Guzzi! Fantastic bikes, always wanted one but hard to find here in yankee land

  • @markkneller1172
    @markkneller1172 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It fits nice to see you in light colours

  • @rohantherockwiththerocketh7871
    @rohantherockwiththerocketh7871 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm hoping to get a few areas sorted out very soon and after that get to the 85th Sturgis Rally even if I don't have a bike licence I can at least drive around the towns and landmarks getting a good idea of the place for when I get the bike licence so I really appreciate your viewpoint about throwing so much on bike riders which sounds like revenue raising and only revenue raising!
    Tasmania really has some of the best roads for riding in Australia along with all the great dividing range.
    Have fun fellas!

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers Rohan, mate Sturgis in any way is fantastic. Just so much fun and 99% there just to soak up the atmosphere. Thanks for watching we appreciate it. 👍

  • @tgb1965
    @tgb1965 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What an amazing collection and Dave's knowledge and passion about those bikes is outstanding. Thanks guys.

  • @t590-j3z
    @t590-j3z 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nice to see they all still being loved and looked after , i often wonder if the crap fuels these days do them damage

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey thanks for watching. Bad fuel doesn’t seem to be an issue for this collection, they all get ridden regularly and fuel doesn’t seem to be in them long enough to be harmful. But it’s definitely something these collectors have to manage. Thanks for watching.

  • @Bikerman2022
    @Bikerman2022 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ray's knucklehead🤩

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So many amazing bikes in this collection. Thanks for watching 👍

  • @pkjmfineart1593
    @pkjmfineart1593 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Old bikes makes ya wanna have a damn good vlog. 🤨😆 Oz WTT? Let's see his workshop. 🤔

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching. We can tell you the workshop was like a Surgeons Operating Theatre. Very professional and well run.

  • @Spargowombat
    @Spargowombat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember Dave from Stanco in Elizabeth St.

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those were the days when you could spend an entire day walking up and down Elizabeth Street looking at about 13 motorcycle shops. Saturday mornings it simply buzzed with bikers who flocked from every corner of Melbourne. Now we have Asian food stores and $2 shops. 🙄

  • @kelvindavis7060
    @kelvindavis7060 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Guys be careful of what you say , contrary to previous blogs as of speed going down to a Harley dealer, in south of Melbourne, you go on about speed etc reference
    Speed a dollar 30 ish yet you you you talk about road safety, your just bring yourself undone think about what your saying, love you guys and allways follow you

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Kel. It’s an interesting topic, ‘Speed vs Safety’ firstly we always ride in our opinion with Safety in he fore front of our minds. We don’t profess to be saints, but I get what you are saying. Appreciate the feedback mate. 👍

  • @davidetchellsetchells4692
    @davidetchellsetchells4692 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I did buy a 1979 suzuki AMA superbike years ago for 300 dollars, it had been sitting since 1981 or so, took a few weeks to get it running right and fix the brakes and such because it was full of water and rust , brakes were seized up, points and coils messed up and only running on 2 cyls, suspension needed tuning and refurb but once done it was extremely quick for a big heavy lump😂😂😂

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey we would love to see a video of the completed bike. Thanks for watching.

  • @karlfromtas
    @karlfromtas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can you put time stamps up I havent got an hour and a quarter to sit through the whole lot

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey Karl, mate will try but to be honest there just aren’t enough hours in the day already to spend more. Thanks for watching and we will do our best. 👍

  • @JoelDay-n5z
    @JoelDay-n5z 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does the bracks tax still exist?

  • @id10tcertified
    @id10tcertified 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A good 15% of single vehicle motorcycle accidents are caused by cars that did a runner and more than than you’d like to believe who had no idea they just ran a bike off the road… it’s actually amazing how many cars don’t even see B doubles and pull out and across in front them.

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure of the numbers, but either way we have to do our best to make ourselves safe from all adversaries. Thanks for taking the time to comment. 👍

    • @id10tcertified
      @id10tcertified 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs From 19 years on interstate (17 in my own truck) two of those on roadtrains (Sydney - Perth) three driving B doubles around Sydney with the odd country trip and ten truck & dog tippers with a mix of heavy haulage and even courier work in my late teens then add riding since 1971 with a max of three years all up of not having a motorcycle I reckon I’m not far wrong, if anything it’s more and yes I’ve been told by the offending driver that they didn’t see me on quite a few occasions, actually more so when in a truck: one dingbat went up my left side then cut across in front of me to try and make the right turn lane, it was banked up way past my back trailer, his open window almost straight down from mine (I was in a cab over red white and blue b double) reckon’s he didn’t see me, he was one of many and they really don’t see you… I could write for hours about this crap. I’ve had a verbal at a lot of them and they’ve not a clue why. Best one was a woman tell me the truck behind me wouldn’t let her in… that truck was my dog trailer.

  • @JoelDay-n5z
    @JoelDay-n5z 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I found out that my 2014 victory had the option of a heated seat I hunted high and low but I never was able to find one and to all the naysayers try it before you cry about it.

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100%, and I was definitely one of those neigh sayers in the past. “Why would you ever need a heate………oooooh that’s toastie warm, I’ll have me some of that!” 😂 Yes they are definitely a luxury, but they are very very good to have. Thanks for watching.

  • @spookydog6959
    @spookydog6959 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👍

  • @Shamshiadadd
    @Shamshiadadd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The bloke on the left sounds like Albo....commiserations mate

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Jesus, I might have to cut my own voice box out. LOL. Best we get new mics.

  • @gvaldezcurrie
    @gvaldezcurrie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant maybe wear the smell as a cologne, perfume is for the French ha ha

  • @russcoaus2043
    @russcoaus2043 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😃✌️

  • @spookydog6959
    @spookydog6959 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    candy land

  • @ADSCoachSimonB2112
    @ADSCoachSimonB2112 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Increase in cost of living Segways to working more hours Segways higher fatigue then commute to save money then riding later on less then great roads more people on the road riding and driving. Wearing safety gear. I got run off the road just outside Bungendore, and dropped my bike broke my leg, hit a pothole no street lights on the corner, 4WD overlook on the corner trailer was black and poorly lit. It’s a domino effect

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey Simo, this is the point I was trying to make. There are multiple factors that have contributed to this spike, but we need more data to actually see where we as riders can improve, not just being fined into submission or expected to believe their guesses. Thanks for watching and we hope your leg is all good now. 👍

  • @annettehewitson6426
    @annettehewitson6426 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video again,I was wondering if you could interview a police officer or top dog,and ask him what he going to do about car driver that run into us motor bike rider and don’t give a toss,we need adds on t,v to train car driver that we belong on the road and for them to get off there phone while driving,car driver need to be trained,up here in the country we dodge roo,you bloke and girlfriend dodge cars,every time I get pull over,the police tell me to watch the roo,s😅,I reply back,what about the car driver,no reply,stay safe,stay upright.

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100% Annette. We are in the process of drafting a letter requesting an interview with someone from Vic Police, preferably Traffic Command, to see if they will be interviewed and answer many of the questions I raised last night. Thanks for watching, stay tuned for further.

  • @alwood9148
    @alwood9148 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    driver ed not riders

  • @robertfrantz4788
    @robertfrantz4788 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A question to you....... have you visited Kiwi Indian? He supposedly relocated to Australia from California. He makes Springfield era Indians. If you want a brand new 1948 Chief, with all the updates with the engine/tran̈smission. If you want more zoom zoom He can do that too...

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey that sounds like our type of Biker. If you have anything further on his possible location, we would appreciate it, and we will start researching. Thanks for the tip.

  • @iancooll12
    @iancooll12 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm back in Canada now but grew up in the UK, I've had one accident on the road, and That was as a Tractor-Trailer that pulled away from the lights at the bottom of one of their terrible 3 piece flyovers, so I had been forced to Brake hard downhill, and as the trailer moved off, he revealed a lane plus by100yd long covering of the road surface, with a Gelitain like substance. I got off the Brakes just in time, and tried just cruising through it but just before the end down I went, Hard. The only thing that stopped the Car following me, and sliding everywhere, was my Crash helmet, luckily a good one Luckily. Nobody was hurt but my Brand new Bike, my first Big one after the L plates came off was pretty Banged up, I got away with a chipped elbow and some bruises and the Car driver needed a new suit, but that was it. When I got my insurance claim my #yr no claims bonus was gone, because the Cops wrote a single-vehicle accident due to incorrect speed for road conditions.
    Fast Forward some 20+yrs and sadly my loverly wife was Killed, I was the lead bike, and I was speeding through the corners until I approached the last corner, which was a blind sweeper, Brenda wasn't as confident and she was at the speed limit, or below. As I entered the corner, an off-chamber jobbie, with 4 gravel rds entering into it so one you watched I noticed it was covered in marble-sized Gravel, a local Farmer had rented his yard, to Hwy Construction Firms and the Guy operating the Tractor loading Dump trucks had strewn this Gravel all over the Rd and simply left it. I slowed as I got into the corner by down-shifting, To warn Brenda, she lost control early after entry, and instead of just letting go she fought it, and ended up going into the oncoming Lane and was Killed instantly, the Bike was wrecked. I had her daughter on the back who luckily didn't see it, I did in the rear view mirror. The couple in the SUV could do nothing, there was no time the way that corner is due to the Hills, They were very nice to her Daughter and although in shock, helped as much as possible I was very grateful to them. The Cops kept us there from about 8pm until a little after midnight, with constant Questioning and pissing me off more and more, as I wanted to be with my wife, Finally after a sworn statement, I was released. Witnesses who saw the accident and were walking their dog, this being a little travelled Rd, gave statements and told me, that she wasn't speeding and that was in their statements to the Cops. Outcome! The Cops wrote this up as a single-vehicle accident due to "speeds inappropriate for road conditions", they charged the couple who Helped in the SUV, with "Driving too fast for the road conditions". That cost me the Insurance coverage, as it was her fault, in a no-fault system? no mention, nor any charges were laid against me, for threatening a police officer and assaulting road workers, who were busily cleaning up the Gravel, before the accident assessment squad arrived. I'm a Full SAE member Engineer and had considered taking that course and had looked into it, through the SAE, I knew exactly what they were doing. Hence my temper got the better of me, and I thumped some, who didn't stop sweeping! The Cop was on the Radio all the time as he couldn't control me, and the injured members of the cleaning crew were complaining. At least by the time they left, some Gravel was present, and mention of strange-sized gravel was made, in a report? I should have gone to jail? I continued to kick up a stink about it, admitted I had assaulted workers, and would laid out the Cop! All was swept away, as no township or city in Ontario will admit to being at fault in a road accident caused by them. So no assault charges could be laid, the other couple's charges were later dropped and Finally They made a $20,000 payment to her daughter's college fund, with no admission of guilt, I was never charged or even mentioned as anything other than a witness. It is a worldwide policy I was told, always single-vehicle accidents! and especially if road works are at fault.

    • @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs
      @hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ian that’s a tragic story and one we hear way too often. Expediency over proper investigation and accountability. Our thoughts go out to you.

    • @iancooll12
      @iancooll12 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hogscogsandtwoaussieflogs Thanks for your reply, it's appreciated. I only hope the point behind it is not lost, I'm 200 lbs of trained old-school self-defence offensive Warrior, and at the time my conditioning was second to none. So they had a control issue on their hands, the press was there she was much loved in the community. Optics wouldn't have been great if they tried using force, they thought about it? Second, The dispute started over my wife's body just being left in the road, and they didn't want me sitting with her, hence the try and Fucking stop me response. All this time the Focus was really on scene clean-up rather than any kind of decency! this is 20yrs on now and my Daughter-in-law is an Insurance exec, which makes life touchy at times, but she has confirmed what I've said, the Insurance companies use their multinational position to influence, judicial matters concerning, Motorcycle traffic accidents and the handling of them both by police, layers and municipalities Globally as they pay regardless at all levels and this is plural a cost managing exercise, hence always worded in terms of the motorcyclist's fault/ My real issue was the way my wife body was being treated that night, don't forget we were being held there for nearly 8 hrs with Her left laying in the Road, and trying to tell me I couldn't go and sit with Her, what would you be like. Secondly, there was no scene preservation, they actually called out local road crews to clean away the Gravel, while I was sitting with but on a promise not to touch my wife. This was when the Road crews arrived and started cleaning away the Gravel before the crime scene Guys could get there? That was when the fight started, I took their Brooms away broke them and flung them in the Field. There's a lot to this, and I don't want to be a bore, but as long as they can keep this silenced with Single Vercle accident while lying about the real reason's "cost" and motorcyclists are still seen as dispensable until they happen across the odd wrong customer, like me, not only challenging physically, but also qualified, and that was the only reason her daughter got the Miserble $20,000 settlement. If this was in say US courts the settlements would be astronomical and that's what they fear, they still exert their influence down there but do have a harder job thanks to the US Constitution, and not the Feckless, copying of the top-down British legal System. As a point of interest, this is a small group of older established Canadian communities or at least it was! Speaking, to our local Gas station/repair shop /Tow/Truck operators, who by the way were the closest to the scene that night but were never called to take the Bike away. He asked, "Where's your wife today, working"? I replied, no she was killed up the Rd here a few weeks ago on all that Gravel, he quickly added, Oh no was that Her, that's been going on for a while and that he had lost control of his 4 wheel-raised pick-up truck, built for Mudding, Now If he can't keep that on the road, and He's the Tractor Trailer tow truck Son in the business and they had already answered numerous incidents, regarding this Corner and that particular Gravel, Why by the time my wife was basically Murdered, Had something not been done? His accident was also listed as a Single-vehicle accident, and the cause was the same, "Speeding" or driving at speeds unsuitable for the road conditions? usually followed by a ticket, in these incidents speeding tickets are never issued. Now, write me off as just an angry bereaved Husband, and say there isn't something malevolent, to suit their own interests at play here. Sorry for the length but if you read it, you'll understand this is a very complex issue, and I really had them bang to rights, and I'm a scrapper. yet I still couldn't get anywhere, There was an outcry in the Local communities, the local paper was flooded by it, the Town hall and a lot of flags at half mast for the week, but no paper would speak with me.