A few important names who died in the 20s that could be brought up in a future video: Robert La Follette Sr. William Jennings Bryan Nellie Bly Eugene V. Debs Robert Todd Lincoln Franz Kafka John Burroughs
For those interested in the William Desmond Taylor case, the book, “ A Cast of Killers,” by Sydney D. Kirkpatrick is excellent. Goes into all kinds of scandals and tales from those days. A great book.
Great research as usual ❤, especially President Harding. He had a lot of enemies, even his wife Florence who was furious about his indiscretions and outside child. There were always rumors that she poisoned him 🤫.
You ought to cover the Leopold & Leob murder case in Chicago in 1924. That must have been incredibly high profile given the perpetrators, victim and their positions in Chicago society at the time!
these famous people learned to late their money couldn't save them even today, a person has to be on guard all the time here's a story of jealousy and revenge gone wrong! there was a young man always looking to crash parties, on night a man was having a party this man had intended to kill who he thought was a rival for his woman, so the man set a trap he put a beer bottle where his target would find it! only it wasn't all beer in that bottle, it was half liquid Drano, a substance that no one can save a person! the crasher who was 20 some saw the bottle and thinking he was being slick downed it the Drano did what it was designed to do, it started dissolving everything it came in contact with, his airway his lungs his enteral organs they tried to keep him alive by feeding him through his large intestine to keep him alive until they could figure something out. but he died a week later, i try to tell people never drink out of a bottle or glass can only and then if they opened it themselves, never go on a first date alone either have someone with you or someone following, never walk into a room with a man or men a woman boxes herself in and is at their mercy, the same with answering the door a friend of mine lost his pregnant wife to a monster, who cut her throat and used a meat clever to take what he killed her for he had a leg fetish so he took her legs!
at around 1:44 valet is pronounced like "ballet" also at around 15:19 successor is pronounced suc·ces·sor like "success or" We all misspeak, no hate, I love the channel
Famous Deaths Of The 1920s (Part 2) 0156am 8.1.24 people looked far superior during the 20's and 30's.. for sure. at least women were attractive then. for sure. and women!!!
@@tchrisou812 Famous Deaths Of The 1920s (Part 2) some woman i once knew also had a penchant for women with bob cuts. but i feel i am out of my era...i would have been more happier during the 20's and 30's - obviously born on the right side of the tracks - gettin' high, drinking... partying... gettin' laid (for want of better words)... none of this messed up and bemused world view we have now.... but, yeah, those photos of hollywood starlets are pretty cool circa 1920's/30's...
@tchrisou812. "Successor" can be pronounced either way, but the pronunciation in this video is proper. I suspect u might consider "success-er" proper, but it's only the popular Am. pronunciation, no more proper than "success-or." And "valet" can be properly pronounced as rhyming with "ballet" (dropping the "t") or as "vallet", although I think the latter became more popular in the 20th c. & as usual, such popularity often leads to a change re: what is considered proper. Not sure, but I suspect that Hollywood as well as British movies had a major influence on pronunciation, & it was typical of the approved British pronunciation that terms derived from Latin & from French be pronounced as typical English words---that is, terms stemming from Latin that contain an "i" are pronounced with a long "i" (like "eye), rather than following basic Latin pronunciation of this "i" as a long "e" (like "ee"). And many terms taken from the French are anglicized. However, this may be more true of such pronunciation as the upper class "Queen's/King's English" than of other English accents. English pronunciation has long been very complicated & especially complicated among the British descendants of the U.S., with the public school systems of the U.S. often teaching the English system of spelling through much of the 20th c.----for example, "grey" rather than "gray," as well as "colour" rather than "color." These proper English spellings & pronunciations were typical of Am. elementary schools of the earlier 20th c. into the '50s, this period also including the practice of memorization for learning entire passages from English literature (Shakespeare, Coleridge, & others ). Sorry to diverge in other directions but I think these subjects are all related to one another. Also, being a product of the Am. public school tradition in which these practices were common, it's hard to shake loose. (When you've been verbally humiliated by a 5th grade teacher for spelling "grey" (the color) as "gray", it's hard to forget. I had used the Am. spelling of "gray" because I'd seen it more often in books, but the teacher had been taught to use English spellings rather than American. All of this bit the dust in the later 20th c., of course. To bring up these examples of earlier accepted ways of pronouncing & of spelling would now be seen as ludicrously strict, if not outright bananas, but it's nice to know entire passages from English literature that you can recite if you're stuck in a bad situation & need to distract yourself pleasantly.) You're probably a product of similar education yourself or you wouldn't be writing comments to correct the English pronunciation used in a video. And if the typical online English usage is any example of how thoroughly most students are now taught to write, English is doomed. (If I see another noun capitalized for no reason, or phrases used as complete sentence---the typical use of the language seen on You Tube by those who write blurb for various channels & by those who post comments---my god, little or no sense can be made of these merely because the authors have no idea how to use language to communicate even the simplest ideas, & here we are arguing about simple usage of common terms!
@@janegarner6739 I learned so much by reading your post and am thankful you took the time to share your experiences and observations. I am American of British descent and was educated here. I could listen to you speak about this all day. I agree that English is being butchered by modern people but I also appreciate the fluidity of it at the same time. A pet peeve of mine is everyone saying "literally" about things that aren't, another is when I have only read about someone or something and I don't pronounce it correctly verbally. I have a friend who is now a Psychiatrist and highly intelligent besides who is a firm believer in the Freudian theories. I first learned as much as I could about this and found out that one of his "students" was Carl Jung and then read all I could find about him. All of this started because we tend to enjoy "sparring" about psychological and philosophical things. All of that to say I once was winning an argument and said Jung's name wrong and I look over at him and he had the biggest smile and asked "who's that?" I just smiled back and we went back to birdwatching. We still get together and don't speak sometimes, I like the guy. I enjoy hearing your thoughts you're very engaging in my opinion.
these famous people learned to late their money couldn't save them even today, a person has to be on guard all the time here's a story of jealousy and revenge gone wrong! there was a young man always looking to crash parties, on night a man was having a party this man had intended to kill who he thought was a rival for his woman, so the man set a trap he put a beer bottle where his target would find it! only it wasn't all beer in that bottle, it was half liquid Drano, a substance that no one can save a person! the crasher who was 20 some saw the bottle and thinking he was being slick downed it the Drano did what it was designed to do, it started dissolving everything it came in contact with, his airway his lungs his enteral organs they tried to keep him alive by feeding him through his large intestine to keep him alive until they could figure something out. but he died a week later, i try to tell people never drink out of a bottle or glass can only and then if they opened it themselves, never go on a first date alone either have someone with you or someone following, never walk into a room with a man or men a woman boxes herself in and is at their mercy, the same with answering the door a friend of mine lost his pregnant wife to a monster, who cut her throat and used a meat clever to take what he killed her for he had a leg fetish so he took her legs! its not the 60s/70s anymore back then you could sleep with a window or even the front door open, not having to worry about a drug addict or thief. even though some of that took place if someone broke into your home your options were clear kill them or tell them to leave, and if you had to kill them then it was what it was no investigation no tax dollars wasted like today, someone brakes in killing them to protect self or family puts a person at risk for being accused of murder! my son bought himself a shotgun, and he lives out in the country, why because his next door neighbor was shot twice, and all because they wanted his cell phone they thought he either took picks or filmed the doing something, the man survived because my Sons woman is an RN! with the gang blm movement people are no longer feeling secure people have no trust, our schools are Sodom and Gomorrah where bullies are viewing explicit sodomy videos and instead of pushing kids weaker then them they are pushing their targets into bathroom stall and sodomizing them, and Lawyers are telling parents they dont have a lawsuit or case because they said ok to a sodomite pushing its perversions on their kids, and they cant post it on media because the school and the attacker parents can get them for slander, while these old clips are interesting todays focus should be on protecting our children and on Christ, Accountability and Consequences every choice mad effects someone else and children end up paying the price, i have a granddaughter and if i ever see a man follow her into a bathroom a gym locker room dressed in drag or not the police will find his body!
I read the book on the investigation of that Director's murder conducted by another director King Vidor. He did it both as a hobby and as a research project for a possible screen play. His conclusion (apart from the fact the LA police of that time were equal parts incompetent and compromised) was that the stage mother from hell of Mary Miles Minter was the killer. It was not either actress mentioned.
Famous Deaths Of The 1920s (Part 2) 0207am 8.1.24 re: political parties...... i wasn't even aware the whigs made waves in the wonderfully weird world of American politics. interesting...
Justin Root channel has great series on Taylor's murder mystery. He takes you to sites involved, some still exist. He has a solid and accurate handle on the events as well.
I caught myself on fire once. I stopped, dropped, and rolled saving my own life. It was still pretty bad and I had serious burns. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I wonder if that was even a thing back then?
Read the books I've read, and it will enlighten you. Start with "A Cast of Killers" by Kirkpatrick, and then "Tinseltown: Murder, Morphine and Madness at the Dawn of Hollywood." Until you read both of these books, you won't know anything about what happened to William Desmond Taylor, AKA "William Cunningham Deane-Tanner" which qas his real name.
Desmond Taylor was killed by M.M.M. ‘S MOTHER! I read the book written by King Vidor, a movie director of that time. Mary was a very young actress, he was an old man.Momma didn’t like that at all. Love Grandma Debbie
Taylor did NOT have memory loss. He was GAY, and he left his wife and child because he didn't want to be with her anymore. That is really how simple it was... I've read three BIOS on this murder and it was documented that he was gay. Taylor was also a VERY sharp and intelligent man. There was NO previous talk of him having "memory lapses" at all. You might want to do better research, because your analysis on the Desmond Taylor murders was not very good. You also realize that William Desmond Taylor was not his real name either. Tanner. His real last name was TANNER. Honestly, do better research.
"nobody knows where the match came from" LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
that last story got me. I didn't know of Martha Mansfield. what a tragic ending of a young life. 😿
Someone you could cover in a future video is Isadora Duncan, her death was quite shocking to say the least.
A few important names who died in the 20s that could be brought up in a future video:
Robert La Follette Sr.
William Jennings Bryan
Nellie Bly
Eugene V. Debs
Robert Todd Lincoln
Franz Kafka
John Burroughs
For those interested in the William Desmond Taylor case, the book, “ A Cast of Killers,” by Sydney D. Kirkpatrick is excellent. Goes into all kinds of scandals and tales from those days. A great book.
It is.
The last story is Very sad and tragic 😢
Great research as usual ❤, especially President Harding. He had a lot of enemies, even his wife Florence who was furious about his indiscretions and outside child. There were always rumors that she poisoned him 🤫.
You ought to cover the Leopold & Leob murder case in Chicago in 1924. That must have been incredibly high profile given the perpetrators, victim and their positions in Chicago society at the time!
This case messed me up
@@rustygribbler1380 very disturbing case. I was saddened reading about it for weeks
@@Mina-ti9nh FR it was truly disturbing
Poor Martha Mansfield! 😢
these famous people learned to late their money couldn't save them even today, a person has to be on guard all the time here's a story of jealousy and revenge gone wrong! there was a young man always looking to crash parties, on night a man was having a party this man had intended to kill who he thought was a rival for his woman, so the man set a trap he put a beer bottle where his target would find it! only it wasn't all beer in that bottle, it was half liquid Drano, a substance that no one can save a person! the crasher who was 20 some saw the bottle and thinking he was being slick downed it the Drano did what it was designed to do, it started dissolving everything it came in contact with, his airway his lungs his enteral organs they tried to keep him alive by feeding him through his large intestine to keep him alive until they could figure something out. but he died a week later, i try to tell people never drink out of a bottle or glass can only and then if they opened it themselves, never go on a first date alone either have someone with you or someone following, never walk into a room with a man or men a woman boxes herself in and is at their mercy, the same with answering the door a friend of mine lost his pregnant wife to a monster, who cut her throat and used a meat clever to take what he killed her for he had a leg fetish so he took her legs!
at around 1:44 valet is pronounced like "ballet" also at around 15:19 successor is pronounced suc·ces·sor like "success or" We all misspeak, no hate, I love the channel
Famous Deaths Of The 1920s (Part 2) 0156am 8.1.24 people looked far superior during the 20's and 30's.. for sure. at least women were attractive then. for sure. and women!!!
@@JJONNYREPP I find women of any era beautiful. I am glad you have a favorite though.
@@tchrisou812 Famous Deaths Of The 1920s (Part 2) some woman i once knew also had a penchant for women with bob cuts. but i feel i am out of my era...i would have been more happier during the 20's and 30's - obviously born on the right side of the tracks - gettin' high, drinking... partying... gettin' laid (for want of better words)... none of this messed up and bemused world view we have now.... but, yeah, those photos of hollywood starlets are pretty cool circa 1920's/30's...
@tchrisou812. "Successor" can be pronounced either way, but the pronunciation in this video is proper. I suspect u might consider "success-er" proper, but it's only the popular Am. pronunciation, no more proper than "success-or."
And "valet" can be properly pronounced as rhyming with "ballet" (dropping the "t") or as "vallet", although I think the latter became more popular in the 20th c. & as usual, such popularity often leads to a change re: what is considered proper. Not sure, but I suspect that Hollywood as well as British movies had a major influence on pronunciation, & it was typical of the approved British pronunciation that terms derived from Latin & from French be pronounced as typical English words---that is, terms stemming from Latin that contain an "i" are pronounced with a long "i" (like "eye), rather than following basic Latin pronunciation of this "i" as a long "e" (like "ee"). And many terms taken from the French are anglicized. However, this may be more true of such pronunciation as the upper class "Queen's/King's English" than of other English accents. English pronunciation has long been very complicated & especially complicated among the British descendants of the U.S., with the public school systems of the U.S. often teaching the English system of spelling through much of the 20th c.----for example, "grey" rather than "gray," as well as "colour" rather than "color." These proper English spellings & pronunciations were typical of Am. elementary schools of the earlier 20th c. into the '50s, this period also including the practice of memorization for learning entire passages from English literature (Shakespeare, Coleridge, & others ).
Sorry to diverge in other directions but I think these subjects are all related to one another. Also, being a product of the Am. public school tradition in which these practices were common, it's hard to shake loose. (When you've been verbally humiliated by a 5th grade teacher for spelling "grey" (the color) as "gray", it's hard to forget. I had used the Am. spelling of "gray" because I'd seen it more often in books, but the teacher had been taught to use English spellings rather than American. All of this bit the dust in the later 20th c., of course. To bring up these examples of earlier accepted ways of pronouncing & of spelling would now be seen as ludicrously strict, if not outright bananas, but it's nice to know entire passages from English literature that you can recite if you're stuck in a bad situation & need to distract yourself pleasantly.)
You're probably a product of similar education yourself or you wouldn't be writing comments to correct the English pronunciation used in a video. And if the typical online English usage is any example of how thoroughly most students are now taught to write, English is doomed. (If I see another noun capitalized for no reason, or phrases used as complete sentence---the typical use of the language seen on You Tube by those who write blurb for various channels & by those who post comments---my god, little or no sense can be made of these merely because the authors have no idea how to use language to communicate even the simplest ideas, & here we are arguing about simple usage of common terms!
@@janegarner6739 I learned so much by reading your post and am thankful you took the time to share your experiences and observations. I am American of British descent and was educated here. I could listen to you speak about this all day. I agree that English is being butchered by modern people but I also appreciate the fluidity of it at the same time. A pet peeve of mine is everyone saying "literally" about things that aren't, another is when I have only read about someone or something and I don't pronounce it correctly verbally. I have a friend who is now a Psychiatrist and highly intelligent besides who is a firm believer in the Freudian theories. I first learned as much as I could about this and found out that one of his "students" was Carl Jung and then read all I could find about him. All of this started because we tend to enjoy "sparring" about psychological and philosophical things. All of that to say I once was winning an argument and said Jung's name wrong and I look over at him and he had the biggest smile and asked "who's that?" I just smiled back and we went back to birdwatching. We still get together and don't speak sometimes, I like the guy. I enjoy hearing your thoughts you're very engaging in my opinion.
Poor Martha Mansfield 💔😢.....🤦🏾♀️
these famous people learned to late their money couldn't save them even today, a person has to be on guard all the time here's a story of jealousy and revenge gone wrong! there was a young man always looking to crash parties, on night a man was having a party this man had intended to kill who he thought was a rival for his woman, so the man set a trap he put a beer bottle where his target would find it! only it wasn't all beer in that bottle, it was half liquid Drano, a substance that no one can save a person! the crasher who was 20 some saw the bottle and thinking he was being slick downed it the Drano did what it was designed to do, it started dissolving everything it came in contact with, his airway his lungs his enteral organs they tried to keep him alive by feeding him through his large intestine to keep him alive until they could figure something out. but he died a week later, i try to tell people never drink out of a bottle or glass can only and then if they opened it themselves, never go on a first date alone either have someone with you or someone following, never walk into a room with a man or men a woman boxes herself in and is at their mercy, the same with answering the door a friend of mine lost his pregnant wife to a monster, who cut her throat and used a meat clever to take what he killed her for he had a leg fetish so he took her legs! its not the 60s/70s anymore back then you could sleep with a window or even the front door open, not having to worry about a drug addict or thief. even though some of that took place if someone broke into your home your options were clear kill them or tell them to leave, and if you had to kill them then it was what it was no investigation no tax dollars wasted like today, someone brakes in killing them to protect self or family puts a person at risk for being accused of murder! my son bought himself a shotgun, and he lives out in the country, why because his next door neighbor was shot twice, and all because they wanted his cell phone they thought he either took picks or filmed the doing something, the man survived because my Sons woman is an RN! with the gang blm movement people are no longer feeling secure people have no trust, our schools are Sodom and Gomorrah where bullies are viewing explicit sodomy videos and instead of pushing kids weaker then them they are pushing their targets into bathroom stall and sodomizing them, and Lawyers are telling parents they dont have a lawsuit or case because they said ok to a sodomite pushing its perversions on their kids, and they cant post it on media because the school and the attacker parents can get them for slander, while these old clips are interesting todays focus should be on protecting our children and on Christ, Accountability and Consequences every choice mad effects someone else and children end up paying the price, i have a granddaughter and if i ever see a man follow her into a bathroom a gym locker room dressed in drag or not the police will find his body!
You did a great job on this video!
So sad about mansfield. Good video.
This was such an interesting video. I can’t wait for part 3.
Excellent series.
I love the old film information. Thank you this is a lot that l did not know. Great Job.
Big fan of your channel! Keep up the great work!!!
I just found your channel, and I'm so happy I did! I love learning about the different eras of history, especially the 20s. Keep up the great work. :D
fascinating! Thank you
I really like your channel!
The Minter / Normand case has been the subject of a number of books. One of those things we will know the answer to.
2024 will be the 100th anniversary of many things that happened in 1924
2024 Could even be the 100th anniversary of all of the things that happened in 1924. 😏😁
Yes since 2024 is exactly 100 years after 1924……
No shit jonesy
I read the book on the investigation of that Director's murder conducted by another director King Vidor. He did it both as a hobby and as a research project for a possible screen play. His conclusion (apart from the fact the LA police of that time were equal parts incompetent and compromised) was that the stage mother from hell of Mary Miles Minter was the killer. It was not either actress mentioned.
I always enjoy these series and look forward to part 3!. Kudos to you!
Thanks ❤
you've done a "deep dive" into the Fatty Arbuckle story.
Desmond Taylor's story is definitely on a par with that case,
so go for it, I say.
Famous Deaths Of The 1920s (Part 2) 0155am 8.1.23 hollywood babylon... revisited. good luck!!!!
thank you so much!! just love the content
The fact that Harding had a long-term mistress and a child with her, is a pretty good reason to blame the wife.
Famous Deaths Of The 1920s (Part 2) 0207am 8.1.24 re: political parties...... i wasn't even aware the whigs made waves in the wonderfully weird world of American politics. interesting...
LOVE these old Hollywood stories. I've heard the Desmond story many times but you added in many new elements. I would LOVE a deep dive into it!!!
How sad I never knew about that fire.
Justin Root channel has great series on Taylor's murder mystery. He takes you to sites involved, some still exist. He has a solid and accurate handle on the events as well.
It was Charlotte Shelby. There is a lot of information on this available on the internet. It was the mother of MMM.
I caught myself on fire once. I stopped, dropped, and rolled saving my own life. It was still pretty bad and I had serious burns. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I wonder if that was even a thing back then?
How come this video isn't listed on your channel?
The 1920s, as I fantasized about it, was a decade of innovation, jazz, playboy charm, mystery, scandal, romance, and endless parties 🤪🍾🕵️♂️🎷
Wow, interesting stories. I love the style of this time; thank you for the great photos.
I once saw a documentary on this case; the conclusion was Miss Minter's mother, disguised as a man, did it.
Why was Harding's affair with Nan Britton not mentioned?
Read the books I've read, and it will enlighten you. Start with "A Cast of Killers" by Kirkpatrick, and then "Tinseltown: Murder, Morphine and Madness at the Dawn of Hollywood." Until you read both of these books, you won't know anything about what happened to William Desmond Taylor, AKA "William Cunningham Deane-Tanner" which qas his real name.
Desmond Taylor was killed by M.M.M. ‘S MOTHER! I read the book written by King Vidor, a movie director of that time. Mary was a very young actress, he was an old man.Momma didn’t like that at all.
Love Grandma Debbie
Interesting 🤔
"Mary Miles minter's mother" try saying that five times fast
Taylor's driver Sands was never seen again but why didn't he rob him?
Like ❤🎉😊
Taylor did NOT have memory loss. He was GAY, and he left his wife and child because he didn't want to be with her anymore. That is really how simple it was... I've read three BIOS on this murder and it was documented that he was gay. Taylor was also a VERY sharp and intelligent man. There was NO previous talk of him having "memory lapses" at all. You might want to do better research, because your analysis on the Desmond Taylor murders was not very good. You also realize that William Desmond Taylor was not his real name either. Tanner. His real last name was TANNER. Honestly, do better research.
His butler pevey was gay too...he used to scout for Taylor
First
The first shall be the last...
Good for ya.
The first story is like Oliver Stone's JFK. Everyone is a SUSPECT. Which means Noone is a SUSPECT.
It's not up to US when it comes to President Harding.
"nobody knows where the match came from" LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO