Leopold's unique glasses left at the scene were one of only 3 pairs sold in the Chicago area. That made it fairly easy for police to crack the case. Intellectually superior indeed!
He hadn't worn them in over a month, and I think they were left in his jacket pocket, forgotten. When they dumped poor Bobby Franks at the preserve, it was dark, and one of them grabbed the jacket, which Leopold had taken off to put the body in the culvert. The glasses, unseen, fell out. And, yes, the hinges were a new kind, and the only other two people who had bought them were eliminated quickly.
@@Catquick1957 In his autobiography, he did express remorse. Of course said book was basically one long appeal to the parole board, so his sincerity is admittedly in question here. I hope that he was sincere and that he has found forgiveness.
Actually, identifying the glasses as Leopold's was not enough, the evidence was circumstantial. Leopold frequented the preserve often as an avid birdwatcher, and when they id'd his glasses as his he simply claimed he must have lost them while he was there the weekend previous. But his family's chauffeur, ironically trying to clear him, went to the cops and said that the boys couldn't have been involved because he'd been working on Nathan's car brakes the afternoon and evening of the murder so he didn't have his car. This destroyed the boys' alibi that they were riding around in Nathan's car with girls that night. Loeb cracked and confessed first, and Leopold only did after it was proven to him that Loeb had already confessed.
An interesting tidbit about the Bobby Franks case: Bobby had no issues with getting into the car with Leopold and Loeb because Bobby was the cousin of Loeb and they knew each other from familial ties. In addition, they lived in the same block as each other. So, poor Bobby, he had no clue he was getting into a car with a cousin, and his cousin's friend, who would wind up murdering him. This is a fascinating case for me and I have seen several documentaries about it. As for how Leopold was able to secure parole is beyond my comprehension too.
Yeah, Bobby and Richard Loeb were like 2nd cousins, and Bobby used to play tennis at the Loeb mansion because it was the only one on the street with a court. I think Nathan's parole had a lot to do with his work in malaria cure research (to his credit, he actually had himself infected on purpose to test anti-malaria drugs). He still didn't get parole when he applied for it in 1953, but after he wrote his autobiography four years later, it was granted.
I know you probably had to edit these stories for brevity, but Leopold and Loeb was a fascinating case. Nathan Leopold wasn't actually interested in crime, Richard Loeb was. But Leopold, who was homosexual, was passionately in love with Loeb. They had a twisted pact, unofficial at first and then formalized, that Leopold would be Loeb's criminal accomplice in return for Loeb's sexual compliance. Loeb was killed in prison by another inmate in 1936. Leopold actually got married after he was paroled (to a woman), but he remained in love with his former best friend/lover for the rest of his life -- even kept a photo of him in his and his wife's bedroom! Trudi Leopold must have been a VERY understanding woman. I actually wrote a book about them, a novelization of the case called "Nothing but the Night" by K.C. Krantz. It's on Amazon.
Not sure _understanding_ is _quite_ the word I'd use to describe a woman who hitched her wagon to a homosexual child-murderer, but to each their own, I guess. 🤔🤷♀
@@internetcensure5849 Um, no, not a "figment of imagination." It was a pact, and if you don't think this was twisted, then I'm not really sure what else to say.
@@brandymcnamee7880 Yeah, I was being a little tongue-in-cheek there. I think she was in it for the notoriety, and some women are addicted to trying to fix broken things/men. And she was his beard, so it was mutually beneficial.
Dear Shannon: What is "absolutely tragic" is that the relationship between head trauma and violent behavior was unknown back then, and although it's since been documented it's still very much ignored today. This is the story of Earle Nelson. Head trauma at 10 changed his behavior forever. Even today little research has been done on this topic and our our society seems to prefer to brand these brain damaged people as simply "criminal" and then to toss them into prison. I really don't think that it's fair to put the whole blame on brain damaged people. Our society which has consistently ignored the relationship between head trauma and violent behavior bears some of the responsibility too IMO. ... jkulik919@gmail.com
Earle Nelson was convicted in early November of 1927, and executed on January 13, 1928. That's around TWO MONTHS after conviction, now that's what I'm talking about.
@@queencerseilannister3519 "many innocent women and men have been executed" Just a claim. A protracted prison life before execution, gives the criminal time to reflect on his misdeed.
@@internetcensure5849 Not just a claim. More people than you would think have been exonerated after their executions, and there are dozens more who honestly should be. And many of them have been racial minorities who were railroaded.
Two months? Which is exactly why it isn’t a practice anymore. Revenge does not trump justice. I suppose what you’d really endorse is lynching. Fortunately such bloodthirsty stupidity no longer flies. - thats what I’M talking about. Think.
@@john-bradywell how much more time would you like, to remove it from the realm of revenge to the realm of justice after a man is found GUILTY of murder, pedophilia, rape, and necrophilia with a 14 year olds corpse? I didn't say anything about lynching although you try to put it on me. YOU on the other hand, should be held in deep suspicion for wanting more time for this sick, evil person. I do think , and I find it hard to think of your remarks as anything other than the words of a creep. Your sympathy is highly suspect.
Just found you and have enjoyed what I am seeing so far, please keep up the good work. A couple of additions to the Bath School Disaster segment, As a life long Michigan resident this case (and others like it) have been an interest of mine and from what I have read the reason He went off the deep end was He was against the new school and the taxes that went along with it as well as the lose of his position, which between those 2 things he was broke and losing his farm, His wife was an invalid that required expensive meds and care, which again now he could not afford, so he decided that this was the best option, so he packed both wings with enough to demolish them and then some, killed his wife, torched his house and even blew up some black walnut trees, then drove to town to see his handy work, It's been a while but I seem to remember that he either shot the principle or was going to then set his truck bomb off. It is a very sad but some how fascinating case and is worth some research by anyone interested. Oh and the reason the other wing did not go off? The battery did not have enough power to set it off, and if memory serves it was the high school side that was spared.
Unfortunately, capital punishment has no effect on crimes. deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/study-international-data-shows-declining-murder-rates-after-abolition-of-death-penalty BUT, I have to say that if someone gets life sentences, it should be carried until the end.
@@nathalie_desrosiers I know statistics show that capital punishment has no effect on crime but I think by talking to people you will find that it does for rational people (who don't usually murder others) and it does prevent them from doing it again. Granted, if life means life that would also do the trick but unfortunately there will always be someone who believes that you can rehabilitate a monster. I do believe that some crimes are just too awful to try to rehabilitate. My personal opinion.
@@catherinelw9365 Punishment actually means correction. You don't correct anyone by killing them. I do agree with execution of people who are found guilty of first degree premeditated murder as long as there is absolutely no doubt of their guilt -- it actually upholds the value of human life and the commandment against murder.
Clarence Darrow's statement to the court is a far better answer to your statement than I could ever make. You should read it. You may not agree with his conclusion, but it will certainly give you food for thought.
I wrote a book about the case, and yeah. They had extremely high IQs but emotionally, they were children. Actually, their scores on psychological judgement were below that of many 10-year-olds. I guess that's a good case for not pushing kids too far ahead in school because they're hanging out with kids who are older and then they get into trouble trying to keep up.
@Fern Green Yes, they were sexually involved with each other. Had a twisted pact in which Leopold agreed to help Loeb in the commission of his crimes in return for sex (Leopold was homosexual and deeply in love with Loeb; whether Loeb was actually gay himself, we don't really know). And my book is "Nothing but the Night" by K.C. Krantz. It's a novelization told from Leopold's perspective. It's on Amazon and Barnes and Noble if you want to check it out.
I'm proud to be the 1,300th like, but appalled that there's only 1,300 likes on such a wonderful video, on such a wonderful channel. How terribly underrated.
The little Bobby Franks death is the one I heard when I was a child! As My teacher told us, You must be very careful around strangers, SAD thing is I believe that Bobby was a cousin of Leob! AWEFUL!!!
Leopold and Loeb were a little more than just friends. The altercation with the prisoner that got Loeb killed was a come-on for sex: leading to the comment that "he ended his sentence with a proposition."
Eh, the come-on for sex part was likely not true -- even back then, the media were lying scum. At least Loeb, who had very little sex drive, wouldn't have been the aggressor, Jimmy Day (his killer) would have been. Leopold believed that Day was put up to it and given the razor by his cellmate. The prison had put a limit on how much allowance they were allowed to receive; Loeb was apparently used to paying people off to keep himself safe, and could no longer afford to do that.
really? to my understanding, loeb was very into the girls and only had a sexual relationship with leopold as a one off thing, rumored to be in trade for his criminal compliancy.
Wow, thank you 🙃... I've never heard of ANY of the stories you've discovered..... Great research done! I am just finding your channel Tonite n I'm subs ♥️ I enjoyed your video n already I'm already binge watching LoL
The movie “Rope” was based on their crime. An interesting movie as the events happen in real time. Always worth a viewing although I think it’s a little melodramatic.
@OneHairyGuy That is entirely possible. Sometimes it is difficult for society to understand the motive of a aberrant individual. They should have tested him to discover his pathology.
It’s believed Leopold and Loeb had a “special” relationship - it’s never been admitted by either one but those close to the case have said they were in fact lovers.
Because of the Leopold/Loeb case, my parents, were kids in the area, had much more restrictions on playing and afterschool activities. It even affected me to a certain extent in my childhood. I recommend the well done documentary from PBS.
Unfortunately, capital punishment has no effect on crimes. deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/study-international-data-shows-declining-murder-rates-after-abolition-of-death-penalty I'm trying to find articles proving me wrong, but I can't. Sorry.
When I was working for my hometown museum, I began compiling some of our more salacious murders, suicides and weird deaths to publish. People love a good juicy story and what better to generate feet through the door? The first female killer in the state being especially interesting. Carbolic acid was the fad means of removing oneself, or troublesome relatives with back then and really piqued my curiosity. Despite having a number of obscure family connections to every murder in the town (until 2016 when that little "curse" finally lifted) I was "asked" by a volunteer who was allowed to dominate the historical society not to progress in my project, lest it embarrass the living. A sorry, weak excuse but whatevs. Time goes on and nothing much changes. Sweedeeeboo small towns are not precious refuges of safety. Give me a city any damn day and then some. Personal experiences some day to be published. No one can stop me talking about my own experiences.
From everything I've read about the Leopold and Loeb case, it was Nathan Leopold who was quiet after the murder. Richard Loeb was the one who was constantly bothering the police during the investigation. In fact, it was Loeb's big mouth that led police to suspect he was involved.
Eh, it was Nathan's glasses. But the so-called "master criminal" Dick Loeb WAS the one to crack when the Leopolds' chauffeur accidentally blew the boys' alibi. To Nathan's credit, he was better at keeping his cool than Dick was. He only confessed after they proved to him that his pal had already "peached."
As much research you seem to put into your videos, I was surprised that you failed to mention Alfred Hitchcock's film, The Rope (1948), which is based on a play by the same name (1929). The play and film drew heavy inspiration from the Leopold and Loeb case.
Not may have, it was. Hitchcock even said he meant for Philip and Brandon to be lovers like Leopold and Loeb, although this was 1949 and such a relationship at that time could only be very subtly hinted at.
I read Nathan Leopold's book in the 'seventies. In it he most definitely expresses regret for his sociopathy. But I still think he should never have been released.
Frankly, I never of him but that blown up building reminder me of another blown-up building..Oklahoma City. Timothy McVey killed scores of men, women, and children..by blowing up that building...
Nathan Leopold was a big fan of Nietzsche, who advocated the idea of the "superman" who was above the morals of the masses, a truly satanic "do what thy will" philosophy. The only wrong in it was getting caught. A very dangerous ideology for a precocious social misfit like Leopold. He wasn't a monster but a pretty screwed-up kid who was in love with a probable sociopath.
They said when they went to kehoes farm all his unused farm equipment and machinery was more than enough to pay off the foreclosure of the farm so kehoe was just an evil man with a grudge not a real victim
@@nathalie_desrosiers Thanks. Oh, it's the I'm a failure so someone has to pay. Including losing my life. In other words a complete egotistical coward. 🤔
Hold on. Unfair comment on Nathan Leopold. You said he "never apologized for his crime". His lifetime of atonement is movingly illustrated in his autobiography "99 Years Plus Life." If one can possibly atone for such a terrible crime by a life lived, Nathan Leopold did so, and never tried to diminish or dodge his responsibility in the murder of Bobby Franks.
Eh... he DID apologize and do many good acts while in prison and after, but his motives and sincerity are questionable. Everything he did seemed to be geared towards promoting himself and improving his image. His autobiography was basically one long appeal to the parole board. He also never wanted to discuss his crime and was quick to sue anyone who wrote about him. Maybe I'm being cynical and he was truly remorseful, but I don't get that impression.
I'm really glad that you covered the Bobby Franks murder. I was born in the Chicagoland area in 1954, but as I grew up people still talked about this heinous murder. In 1959 it was made into an excellent movie: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsion_(1959_film)
Leopold's unique glasses left at the scene were one of only 3 pairs sold in the Chicago area. That made it fairly easy for police to crack the case.
Intellectually superior indeed!
He hadn't worn them in over a month, and I think they were left in his jacket pocket, forgotten. When they dumped poor Bobby Franks at the preserve, it was dark, and one of them grabbed the jacket, which Leopold had taken off to put the body in the culvert. The glasses, unseen, fell out. And, yes, the hinges were a new kind, and the only other two people who had bought them were eliminated quickly.
Arrogance. There is always a price to pay. He never apologized, and it seems obvious there was a payoff to get him released, but I bet he's sorry now.
@@Catquick1957 In his autobiography, he did express remorse. Of course said book was basically one long appeal to the parole board, so his sincerity is admittedly in question here. I hope that he was sincere and that he has found forgiveness.
Actually, identifying the glasses as Leopold's was not enough, the evidence was circumstantial. Leopold frequented the preserve often as an avid birdwatcher, and when they id'd his glasses as his he simply claimed he must have lost them while he was there the weekend previous. But his family's chauffeur, ironically trying to clear him, went to the cops and said that the boys couldn't have been involved because he'd been working on Nathan's car brakes the afternoon and evening of the murder so he didn't have his car. This destroyed the boys' alibi that they were riding around in Nathan's car with girls that night. Loeb cracked and confessed first, and Leopold only did after it was proven to him that Loeb had already confessed.
Thank God they were criminally stupid
An interesting tidbit about the Bobby Franks case: Bobby had no issues with getting into the car with Leopold and Loeb because Bobby was the cousin of Loeb and they knew each other from familial ties. In addition, they lived in the same block as each other. So, poor Bobby, he had no clue he was getting into a car with a cousin, and his cousin's friend, who would wind up murdering him. This is a fascinating case for me and I have seen several documentaries about it. As for how Leopold was able to secure parole is beyond my comprehension too.
Jayelem M. It showed the homes of L&L, not homes but huge mansion.
Yeah, Bobby and Richard Loeb were like 2nd cousins, and Bobby used to play tennis at the Loeb mansion because it was the only one on the street with a court. I think Nathan's parole had a lot to do with his work in malaria cure research (to his credit, he actually had himself infected on purpose to test anti-malaria drugs). He still didn't get parole when he applied for it in 1953, but after he wrote his autobiography four years later, it was granted.
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White privilege its always been this way or should I say privileged by money.💰⚖
If I remember rite they found a pair of their glasses an the frames were specially made to order 👓
I know you probably had to edit these stories for brevity, but Leopold and Loeb was a fascinating case. Nathan Leopold wasn't actually interested in crime, Richard Loeb was. But Leopold, who was homosexual, was passionately in love with Loeb. They had a twisted pact, unofficial at first and then formalized, that Leopold would be Loeb's criminal accomplice in return for Loeb's sexual compliance. Loeb was killed in prison by another inmate in 1936. Leopold actually got married after he was paroled (to a woman), but he remained in love with his former best friend/lover for the rest of his life -- even kept a photo of him in his and his wife's bedroom! Trudi Leopold must have been a VERY understanding woman. I actually wrote a book about them, a novelization of the case called "Nothing but the Night" by K.C. Krantz. It's on Amazon.
"in his and his wife's bedroom!"🤣
"They had a twisted pact" a figment of the imagination of a novel writer.
Not sure _understanding_ is _quite_ the word I'd use to describe a woman who hitched her wagon to a homosexual child-murderer, but to each their own, I guess. 🤔🤷♀
@@internetcensure5849 Um, no, not a "figment of imagination." It was a pact, and if you don't think this was twisted, then I'm not really sure what else to say.
@@brandymcnamee7880 Yeah, I was being a little tongue-in-cheek there. I think she was in it for the notoriety, and some women are addicted to trying to fix broken things/men. And she was his beard, so it was mutually beneficial.
That uni brow
lol!!! I said the same thing. Hideous. 🤣🤣
How can you not notice
Wow, this is terrifying. I can’t believe Nelson killed at least 22 people, most of which being in different cities... that is absolutely tragic.
Dear Shannon: What is "absolutely tragic" is that the relationship between head trauma and violent behavior was unknown back then, and although it's since been documented it's still very much ignored today. This is the story of Earle Nelson. Head trauma at 10 changed his behavior forever. Even today little research has been done on this topic and our our society seems to prefer to brand these brain damaged people as simply "criminal" and then to toss them into prison. I really don't think that it's fair to put the whole blame on brain damaged people. Our society which has consistently ignored the relationship between head trauma and violent behavior bears some of the responsibility too IMO. ... jkulik919@gmail.com
Sounds like Ted Bundy...
Shannon Curly Nothing much has changed has it?
It's impressive they were even able to catch him at all, given the available technology and understanding of forensic science of the era.
3rd video so far and no ads in any. This channel is added to my guilty pleasure list for sure 😂🥴
Earle Nelson was convicted in early November of 1927, and executed on January 13, 1928. That's around TWO MONTHS after conviction, now that's what I'm talking about.
Truly depends... many innocent women and men have been executed. But 30+ years with appeals is ridiculous.
@@queencerseilannister3519 "many innocent women and men have been executed" Just a claim. A protracted prison life before execution, gives the criminal time to reflect on his misdeed.
@@internetcensure5849 Not just a claim. More people than you would think have been exonerated after their executions, and there are dozens more who honestly should be. And many of them have been racial minorities who were railroaded.
Two months? Which is exactly why it isn’t a practice anymore. Revenge does not trump justice. I suppose what you’d really endorse is lynching.
Fortunately such bloodthirsty stupidity no longer flies.
- thats what I’M talking about. Think.
@@john-bradywell how much more time would you like, to remove it from the realm of revenge to the realm of justice after a man is found GUILTY of murder, pedophilia, rape, and necrophilia with a 14 year olds corpse? I didn't say anything about lynching although you try to put it on me. YOU on the other hand, should be held in deep suspicion for wanting more time for this sick, evil person. I do think , and I find it hard to think of your remarks as anything other than the words of a creep. Your sympathy is highly suspect.
Leopold and Leob. Another grandstanding lawyer who fights for garbage while the victim becomes a footnote 😢
Just found you and have enjoyed what I am seeing so far, please keep up the good work. A couple of additions to the Bath School Disaster segment, As a life long Michigan resident this case (and others like it) have been an interest of mine and from what I have read the reason He went off the deep end was He was against the new school and the taxes that went along with it as well as the lose of his position, which between those 2 things he was broke and losing his farm, His wife was an invalid that required expensive meds and care, which again now he could not afford, so he decided that this was the best option, so he packed both wings with enough to demolish them and then some, killed his wife, torched his house and even blew up some black walnut trees, then drove to town to see his handy work, It's been a while but I seem to remember that he either shot the principle or was going to then set his truck bomb off. It is a very sad but some how fascinating case and is worth some research by anyone interested. Oh and the reason the other wing did not go off? The battery did not have enough power to set it off, and if memory serves it was the high school side that was spared.
I really love your videos...the 20's have always had a large interest to me..
Nicely put together with a good voice
Thanks for putting this together from the UK 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Leopold and Loeb were best reason for capital punishment. They deserved death for their crimes. So tragic.
Unfortunately, capital punishment has no effect on crimes.
deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/study-international-data-shows-declining-murder-rates-after-abolition-of-death-penalty
BUT, I have to say that if someone gets life sentences, it should be carried until the end.
@@nathalie_desrosiers I know statistics show that capital punishment has no effect on crime but I think by talking to people you will find that it does for rational people (who don't usually murder others) and it does prevent them from doing it again. Granted, if life means life that would also do the trick but unfortunately there will always be someone who believes that you can rehabilitate a monster. I do believe that some crimes are just too awful to try to rehabilitate. My personal opinion.
@@nathalie_desrosiers So what. It's called PUNISHMENT.
@@catherinelw9365 Punishment actually means correction. You don't correct anyone by killing them. I do agree with execution of people who are found guilty of first degree premeditated murder as long as there is absolutely no doubt of their guilt -- it actually upholds the value of human life and the commandment against murder.
Clarence Darrow's statement to the court is a far better answer to your statement than I could ever make. You should read it. You may not agree with his conclusion, but it will certainly give you food for thought.
The first one I know well but the next two --Good Lord, I've never of them before. They were true monsters to say the least.
Bro your videos are so interesting
Having been born and raised in Michigan, we learned all about the Bath School massacre in school.
Kids, let's talk about something that killed 45 children like you. Yeah!
The day after: Hey, why don't you want to go to school?
I went to school in Coldwater with a girl that was related to Kehoe
37 children.
High IQs these two might have had, but neither of them had as much common sense as nature gave a flea.
I wrote a book about the case, and yeah. They had extremely high IQs but emotionally, they were children. Actually, their scores on psychological judgement were below that of many 10-year-olds. I guess that's a good case for not pushing kids too far ahead in school because they're hanging out with kids who are older and then they get into trouble trying to keep up.
@Fern Green Yes, they were sexually involved with each other. Had a twisted pact in which Leopold agreed to help Loeb in the commission of his crimes in return for sex (Leopold was homosexual and deeply in love with Loeb; whether Loeb was actually gay himself, we don't really know). And my book is "Nothing but the Night" by K.C. Krantz. It's a novelization told from Leopold's perspective. It's on Amazon and Barnes and Noble if you want to check it out.
@Fern Green Thank you!
@Fern Green There is a Hitchcock movie about this starring Jimmy Stewart called 'Rope".
"as nature gave a flea.". Yes, the flea can sense danger and protect itself, while those immature dudes left an implicating clue at the crime scene.🤣
I'm proud to be the 1,300th like, but appalled that there's only 1,300 likes on such a wonderful video, on such a wonderful channel. How terribly underrated.
The little Bobby Franks death is the one I heard when I was a child! As My teacher told us, You must be very careful around strangers, SAD thing is I believe that Bobby was a cousin of Leob! AWEFUL!!!
It's interesting that Alfred Hitchcock made two films related to two of these stores: 1943's "Shadow of a Doubt" and 1948's "Rope".
Thanks for sharing the link. I just discovered your fascinating videos, and I am very much enjoying them.
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The first two killers’ story was adapted into a movie called “Rope”, starring Jimmy Stewart and directed by Alfred Hitchcock. At least I think so.
That's correct.
I thought so.
You beat me to it! I was about to post the same comment!
It was fiction. They killed a fellow student and put him in a trunk and then had a dinner party around him. A teacher figured it out.
@@barbarastrayhorn4667 It was fiction, but it was inspired by/based loosely on the Leopold and Loeb case.
Leopold and Loeb were a little more than just friends. The altercation with the prisoner that got Loeb killed was a come-on for sex: leading to the comment that "he ended his sentence with a proposition."
Eh, the come-on for sex part was likely not true -- even back then, the media were lying scum. At least Loeb, who had very little sex drive, wouldn't have been the aggressor, Jimmy Day (his killer) would have been. Leopold believed that Day was put up to it and given the razor by his cellmate. The prison had put a limit on how much allowance they were allowed to receive; Loeb was apparently used to paying people off to keep himself safe, and could no longer afford to do that.
really? to my understanding, loeb was very into the girls and only had a sexual relationship with leopold as a one off thing, rumored to be in trade for his criminal compliancy.
@@mmneverold Loeb apparently had a low sex drive, regardless of who it was with.
@@kck9742 really? interesting. where'd you find that? I'm always looking for more information on this case
@@mmneverold I wrote a book about the case so I did pretty thorough research, and I got this from their psych evaluations.
Wow, thank you 🙃... I've never heard of ANY of the stories you've discovered..... Great research done! I am just finding your channel Tonite n I'm subs ♥️ I enjoyed your video n already I'm already binge watching LoL
Same for me. Never heard of any of these people in part 1 or 2 here! So Sad 😞
Same
These two young men remind me of that Alfred Hitchcock movie Rope.
The movie “Rope” was based on their crime. An interesting movie as the events happen in real time. Always worth a viewing although I think it’s a little melodramatic.
That is who the film rope was based on...great film as well.
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9:36 is NOT Earle Nelson. The man in the picture is Jarvis Catoe, another serial killer.
Nelson did have a motive, he wanted to do it .
@OneHairyGuy That is entirely possible. Sometimes it is difficult for society to understand the motive of a aberrant individual. They should have tested him to discover his pathology.
@OneHairyGuy We are no better now, we leave the mentally ill people to be homeless and exploited on the streets of our cities.
It’s believed Leopold and Loeb had a “special” relationship - it’s never been admitted by either one but those close to the case have said they were in fact lovers.
Because of the Leopold/Loeb case, my parents, were kids in the area, had much more restrictions on playing and afterschool activities. It even affected me to a certain extent in my childhood. I recommend the well done documentary from PBS.
At least they knew what to do with criminals back then
Unfortunately, capital punishment has no effect on crimes.
deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/study-international-data-shows-declining-murder-rates-after-abolition-of-death-penalty
I'm trying to find articles proving me wrong, but I can't. Sorry.
Well the brightest bulbs were too bright. I like it when they put them to death quickly.
That was quite some unibrow that Leopold had, just a couple of steps behind Leonid Brezhnev.
The Dark Strangler was definitely a psychopath.
When your sick , your sick .
The Bobby Frank's murder was the basis for Hitchcock,s movie Rope.
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Ya, "the good ole days".
When I was working for my hometown museum, I began compiling some of our more salacious murders, suicides and weird deaths to publish. People love a good juicy story and what better to generate feet through the door? The first female killer in the state being especially interesting. Carbolic acid was the fad means of removing oneself, or troublesome relatives with back then and really piqued my curiosity. Despite having a number of obscure family connections to every murder in the town (until 2016 when that little "curse" finally lifted) I was "asked" by a volunteer who was allowed to dominate the historical society not to progress in my project, lest it embarrass the living. A sorry, weak excuse but whatevs. Time goes on and nothing much changes. Sweedeeeboo small towns are not precious refuges of safety. Give me a city any damn day and then some. Personal experiences some day to be published. No one can stop me talking about my own experiences.
Wisconsin Death Trip is a good book to illustrate how “good” those days were.
Thanks!
From everything I've read about the Leopold and Loeb case, it was Nathan Leopold who was quiet after the murder. Richard Loeb was the one who was constantly bothering the police during the investigation. In fact, it was Loeb's big mouth that led police to suspect he was involved.
Eh, it was Nathan's glasses. But the so-called "master criminal" Dick Loeb WAS the one to crack when the Leopolds' chauffeur accidentally blew the boys' alibi. To Nathan's credit, he was better at keeping his cool than Dick was. He only confessed after they proved to him that his pal had already "peached."
Interesting video!
As much research you seem to put into your videos, I was surprised that you failed to mention Alfred Hitchcock's film, The Rope (1948), which is based on a play by the same name (1929). The play and film drew heavy inspiration from the Leopold and Loeb case.
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I think Alfred Hitchcock's film "Rope" may have been based on Leopold and Loeb.
Not may have, it was. Hitchcock even said he meant for Philip and Brandon to be lovers like Leopold and Loeb, although this was 1949 and such a relationship at that time could only be very subtly hinted at.
The first one with the 2 college students reminds me of the Alfred Hitchcock movie ~ The Rope
I wonder if that is where the plot came from
I wonder if Murder by Numbers was loosely inspired by this.
yes it was (the 1st case)
I wonder of Leopold and lowe were the first thrill killers
For two geniuses, L&L sure were bad at crime.
Ironically, Loeb the "master criminal" cracked before Leopold did. Leopold only confessed after it had been proven to him that Loeb already had.
Immature and amateurish high IQs.🤣
It is thought by some that Kehoe caused his step mother's death years earlier. She was burned alive, a horrible death.
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I didn't much about these people before this video and man are they creepy.
Still great video
I read Nathan Leopold's book in the 'seventies. In it he most definitely expresses regret for his sociopathy. But I still think he should never have been released.
You kind of glossed over Leopold and Loeb's true relationship. THE WERE ROOMMATES!
A real jack the ripper serial killer...
Kehoe is a name riddled with infamy.
Frankly, I never of him but that blown up building reminder me of another blown-up building..Oklahoma City. Timothy McVey killed scores of men, women, and children..by blowing up that building...
And shrapnel!
Not a super common name in the US, but several murderers named Kehoe!
Music: Ferenc Liszt, La Lugubre Gondola I
Leopold and Loeb remind me of those kids in England who murdered that little boy in the 90s.
They didn't mess around in those days
All the intelligence in the world means nothing if you don't have a conscience. Monsters.
Nathan Leopold was a big fan of Nietzsche, who advocated the idea of the "superman" who was above the morals of the masses, a truly satanic "do what thy will" philosophy. The only wrong in it was getting caught. A very dangerous ideology for a precocious social misfit like Leopold. He wasn't a monster but a pretty screwed-up kid who was in love with a probable sociopath.
Right. "Science without conscience ruins the soul." That's what modern culture is about, referring to "science" all the time.
leopold & loeb - peter puffers
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Great video series, thanks for posting. What is the piano music please?
"Nuages Gris" by Franz Liszt
@@The1920sChannel Thank you. I thought it might be Liszt. I think this piece is used in the morgue scene in Eyes Wide Shut.
They said when they went to kehoes farm all his unused farm equipment and machinery was more than enough to pay off the foreclosure of the farm so kehoe was just an evil man with a grudge not a real victim
Leopold browsed crime books 🥸
Earle Leonard Nelson was one of the earliest American serial killers.
I didn't catch what Kehoe's motivation was?....
Possibly because he lost the school election.
Lost school elections, wife with tuberculosis, facing higher taxes and foreclosure of his farm.
@@nathalie_desrosiers Thanks. Oh, it's the I'm a failure so someone has to pay. Including losing my life. In other words a complete egotistical coward. 🤔
So.....um........Earle Nelson reincarnated as Ted Bundy in about 1946?
Earle Nelson:
🤨 Who In The Piss Is Ted Bundy?!
Nelson looks a bit like Nicholas Cage, (or vice versa).
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Yuck at 1:07 ... I HATE unibrows. 🤮🤣 Pluck that thing!
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Leopoldo and loeb were 100% lovers.
They were so smart but were too stupid in committing crimes.😂
Hold on. Unfair comment on Nathan Leopold. You said he "never apologized for his crime". His lifetime of atonement is movingly illustrated in his autobiography "99 Years Plus Life." If one can possibly atone for such a terrible crime by a life lived, Nathan Leopold did so, and never tried to diminish or dodge his responsibility in the murder of Bobby Franks.
Eh... he DID apologize and do many good acts while in prison and after, but his motives and sincerity are questionable. Everything he did seemed to be geared towards promoting himself and improving his image. His autobiography was basically one long appeal to the parole board. He also never wanted to discuss his crime and was quick to sue anyone who wrote about him. Maybe I'm being cynical and he was truly remorseful, but I don't get that impression.
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I'm really glad that you covered the Bobby Franks murder. I was born in the Chicagoland area in 1954, but as I grew up people still talked about this heinous murder. In 1959 it was made into an excellent movie: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsion_(1959_film)
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