I've never seen a show have so many people reaching before. Grasping on to anything to make sense of it. Can't wait to see that it is more simple than anyone expected.
i always thought she was hiding something cuz most of the times when a random character gets a lot of screen time it usually means something and she almost everytime apears at the wrong time
Good theory! The yellow flowers are definitely something to think about. I thought that more might be made of the fact that she had that injured right eye and wore a patch for awhile because we've seen several instances of one eye being injured (the man pinned to the tree by the spike through his eye and the Civil War soldier, both in Jade's visions, and at least one of Miranda's paintings has people with an injured or white eye). She has always been sus in my opinion given how she is the most overlooked character we've seen.
The eye thing is a good catch! I’ve been thinking there was something off about her for a while now but didn’t even make the connection with the eye injury 😮
@@humanbeing3946 You dont eat hope. What did he eat or drink? He was just a kid. So he did agriculture? He certainly isnt doing now. How did he physically sustain?
At this point, anyone who has ever looked a certain way is a suspect. So many (great and plausible) theories. However, thank God it's in a few hours. Thanks for your deep dive. Kudos.
I personally think if it's anyone, it's Victor and his dad. How would a child survive that long alone. This is interesting though I love all the theories.
Kristi was holding yellow flowers at one of the burials and didn’t the guy that opened the window at the colony house for the one monster also pick yellow flowers, one bouquet that Julie also brought inside.. yellow flowers is a reach
I have similar feelings about Tillie. She tried to persuade Fatima that her pregnancy was fine, eating the rotten food was fine etc. She was also around when things happened.
The dog from the forest is the real entity controlling everything. It hss an idea of stuff but doesnt fully understand human technology. Thats why theres power but the wires go to no where. And eveyone knows dogs think the mail man and milk man are monsters in real life thats why they bark at them, hence the monsters look like random people the dog would see walking around town. 😂 im joking of course.
I agree and I appreciate you breaking it down so well. Now about Randall: he made a deal while chained up. "A promise is a promise" que the bugs to remind him. I think he thought the monsters wouldn't kill or hurt him when alone with them but was only half right. Again to take attention off that Randall was allowed to live they injured him. I imagine his promise and mission has something to do with wanting to move into the "hospital." He had become a team player, as Boyd said to him. But, only for the other side. One more thing about Clara there's a picture of like twins but it's a vertical reflection symmetrically down the middle with a face with blood in it's mouth and up near the eye where Clara was hit with the glass from the light bulb. Is this a picture of Clara and her duality?
*spoilers* just in case. why y'all think its people the spy and not the birds? the crows are literally everywhere, and they watch everything. everyone use to think its Tillie and we all see how that ended. I would be more for the trees, birds and animals. (there are also the tunnels that ran under neath the Matthews house that could possibly go under everyone's house. there was proof that there were monsters up during the day when they should be sleeping. thanks to the one talking to victor. everyone in this town is a reincarnation. they have a role to play and when that person dies in a role a new person is selected to fit that role again. it's a repeating cycle. just like Tabitha is Maranda and Ethan is going to be victor. and Julie is the replacement of victor's sister. no one knows what happen to Cristopher or if he actually died in the town or not. he could still be very much alive. I haven't heard victor say that Christopher was dead. but we can assume he is dead. the yellow flowers can be a symbolism from the previous incarnations of Clara. Clara herself doesn't know why she chooses the yellow flowers.
Right after she removed that motel sign and summoned the spaghetti monster in her secret spaghetti monster summon tent. What? You missed that? Look again - that piece of dirt on her left shoe which you can see for three frames in season 2 episode 4 is clearly a hint. 🥴
Victor was never supposed to be a character on “From “past the first season. He can’t be the reason because Harold Perrineau would not sign a contract without there be a clarified ending. Therefore, it’s not Victor as the person behind everything. You can go back and read and listen to all the interviews and Glen many things. We’ve been given all the answers already you just need to put them in place. It’s a game to start with.
This is a good theory and good supporting details, I also think Tillie for always being around when certain things happen, like with Elgin n her crocheting n her seeing the dead woman but was really in Elgins dream. Although I think it’s a dream within a dream as my main theory is they are in a dream somehow. Which is why when the little boy pushed Tabitha through lighthouse, she “woke up” in hospital because we all tend to “fall” in dreams n wake before the splat! And then we see she was in an accident due to cuts n bruises n then ends up BACK in town AFTER a car crash and now Vic’s father is there and happens to be “unconscious” during the time n “awakens” in town, so it’s either some sort of trauma causing all of them to dream, some experiment or the entity is living “nightmare” n he’s collecting victims. Not sure what, but I definitely feel there’s too much talk of dreams n nightmares n creatures only at night, lot of sleeping n waking, like the 3 that were chained up, etc.
Maybe tillie knew something nobody else did so when she died she said you have to run to warn faitma i mean it kinda make since for that to be sb last words
These theories are getting so creative that I think the show's writers are gonna run out of good endings and twists trying to avoid what the fans already thought of, hence us (the viewers) are always gonna be disappointed with what they are left to present. 😂
And..... Someone has to bring up her weight. 🙄 Seriously, female actresses are just judged so hard on their bodies. You never see the guys copping sly little digs about their weight. 🙄
Yooo ...i literally was thinking this. That its soo sus !! That clara is always there for something esp...when she is being showed the camera always zooms n focused in.
I’m laughing at these “theories” now. Just all over the place. Wasn’t nobody focusing on Clara, now that tillie ruled out y’all had to find somebody new to pick on🤦🏾♀️🤣🤣
I always pointed out both of them. Although Tillie is out she even died weirdly (you have to run...what?). But you are right.😂 ("Víctor is sus" "No, is Jim" "Watch out Donna"). Sorry for my English 🫰🏻
most people been sus of tilly and clara for a long while now and tillie is for sure not "ruled out" it's almost more likely that she was up to something with how she died but who knows. That's why I love this show because we really dont have any idea what's going to happen or how deep it goes.
Long before Tillie got to the town I was suspicious of Clara. There are actually quite a few of us on Reddit that have been saying this since early season two. For me, there's just been something about her that has given me a feeling of unease. I didn't think Tillie was suspect and could never get behind the notion of her being the mole. NPC's don't usually have much screentime unless they are relevant, or about to be killed off. Clara has gotten too much screentime for no real reason. Then the diner scene really pushed me to question her even more. For exactly the same reason why this guy stated.
I agree there are many things pointimg to Clara but i dp think it would be interesting if Randall was the mole. Think about it by him kidnapping Donna and being the first to really get into the idea of a mole it would take any suspicion away from him as hes the one who came up with the theory.
Ok, if you truly suspect Clara (based on I don't know what), then you can easily say that one guy in the bsckground with not a single line of dialogue is the evil mastermind behind everything.
Dam dude, I really think u guys might be right, when I first seen this video, I didn’t click on it cuz I was like WtF no way, Clara is just a weirdo…. But when I watched it…. I was like wow… makes alot of sense… Clara could be talking to jasper… jasper is taking care of Clara, cuz she is helping him
his theories are always flimsy. how is it unlikely they moved the items in the cave when they moved them from the town in the first place???? elgin wears crows too??? none of the extras speak or show up in every episode, only clara. its likely to save money which results in her looking suspicious. her being the last out of the house can be suspicious but SOMEONE has to be the last to exit, she couldve been doing somethin as simple as pleasuring herself lol
How has Clara managed to eat so well to maintain such a large size, while all other “Fromonians” have rations? Perhaps that is a little proof that she is Mole?
And who cares if she missed what Tabitha did in the meeting? It isn’t much obviously cause she’s back so fast and nothing happened and they all behaved bad
First off nice theory but far fetched, number 2 everyone didn’t die in the town , 3rd the only person that knows what happened is still alive that in its self is highly suspicious Possession , split personality maybe but he’s not innocent by along shot
Am I missing something or didn’t someone try to kill the crows? What if they started murdering all the crows. Why did they end up in the house right when tillie was doing tarot? The crows have eyes 👀
I don't think Fatima was chosen for that reason. She couldn't have children and now this place is starting to drive her crazy in this way and play with her feelings, and Elis has already seen how his beloved person is going crazy which is his biggest fear.
But haven't you noticed that she has two arms and two legs? That's four limbs. FOUR, CARL! Add those three red stones and you'll get seven. Four and seven! Could it be a coincidence? I don't think so. I rest my case. 🥸
I think Donna And Clara are blood related to Tilly though her children or her grandchildren. They have 5 letters in their names and both of them had one letter repeat in their names like Clara's name with the a and Donna's name with the n. Tilly must've had her family here secretly without boyd and everyone finding out. She has them doing stuff for her, so she could be there listen and watch everyone if something changes from her plan then she insert herself into the situation and have a conversation with the person to keep them from if figuring out the truth every time. Tilly and Donna and Clara were near Fatima at least once or twice and all of them did talking to Fatima at separate times. I think Donna is being forced while Clara seems to be willing, Tilly is definitely evil if this turned out to be true. Something about Tilly and and Donna and Clara being family is still a possibility for me until proven otherwise.
The yellow flowers I think pretty much sealed it for me I think you definitely got something here
@@dtrilll424 Real 🤞🏻
Tilly has some this episode. Doesn't mean Clara might not have picked them though.
Nah, Eloise is down there.
@@BeckBeckGo Pretty sure we see Miranda and Eloise's graves in the episode 10 trailer.
@@percentxge If clara moves things in the tunnel how could she fit through the entrance. Its not her.
I've never seen a show have so many people reaching before. Grasping on to anything to make sense of it. Can't wait to see that it is more simple than anyone expected.
Lost was way worse imo
@Nursexmaria don't lost and from habe the same creators?
@@KanekashonthedashYep
Okay so all the "Tilly is a plant" theorist can leave the chat!
It's a cottage industry
There is no spy. The town/ entity knew Tabitha was coming back before she got there. They don’t need an inside man or woman.
I like the theory. It's funny how upset some people get over theories about the show they don't agree with.
They don't even watch the show
i always thought she was hiding something cuz most of the times when a random character gets a lot of screen time it usually means something and she almost everytime apears at the wrong time
Brilliant thought. You are the most sharp minded, intelligent one i ever seen in all the posts about this movie.
Thanks for making my day💥💥💯💯🙏
@@salimjackson2623you mean series? But yeah it’s pretty cool
Good theory! The yellow flowers are definitely something to think about. I thought that more might be made of the fact that she had that injured right eye and wore a patch for awhile because we've seen several instances of one eye being injured (the man pinned to the tree by the spike through his eye and the Civil War soldier, both in Jade's visions, and at least one of Miranda's paintings has people with an injured or white eye). She has always been sus in my opinion given how she is the most overlooked character we've seen.
The eye thing is a good catch! I’ve been thinking there was something off about her for a while now but didn’t even make the connection with the eye injury 😮
"Clara the character that has everyone talking"
Me: who?! 😅
I think Victor is the spy and he doesn't even know it, how else did he survive all those years if he wasn't allowed to do so?
Victor survived all those years because he had lost hope. The monsters and the place feed off hope
Omg what if victor and fatima are like in the same situation as will byers in season 2 of st
The entity can get in their head, make them see dead people, and make them “pregnant”. I don’t think it needs a spy to be able to observe them.
Monsters feeding off of hope is interesting. I thought they fed off of fear, anxiety, adrenaline etc
@@humanbeing3946 You dont eat hope. What did he eat or drink? He was just a kid. So he did agriculture? He certainly isnt doing now. How did he physically sustain?
Hahaha the writers have us all so confused we just start accusing anyone now.
At this point, anyone who has ever looked a certain way is a suspect. So many (great and plausible) theories. However, thank God it's in a few hours. Thanks for your deep dive. Kudos.
I personally think if it's anyone, it's Victor and his dad. How would a child survive that long alone. This is interesting though I love all the theories.
I never noticed about her that she was that transparent. I'm going to pay attention to her in next episode.
Kristi was holding yellow flowers at one of the burials and didn’t the guy that opened the window at the colony house for the one monster also pick yellow flowers, one bouquet that Julie also brought inside.. yellow flowers is a reach
The flowers are significant. This is the biggest piece of evidence in my opinion
I have similar feelings about Tillie. She tried to persuade Fatima that her pregnancy was fine, eating the rotten food was fine etc. She was also around when things happened.
Don’t forget that she’s also in all of Elgin‘s bad dreams. She was also dancing for joy in the rain on the bus broke down in the town.
She dead
😂😂😂@@zacoakland1037
😂
Well it’s not exactly a huge town they are bound to walk in to each other’also she had cancer so she was enjoying what was left of her life
Oh Clara, good ol Clara. From cheating in Counter Strike to screwing towns folk.
she is definitely not normally
@@stevenboddy4232 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Honestly I get where you're coming from but I don't think there's anything wrong with her
The only thing that makes me suspect her is she did in the dinner when she got there in the end then immediately started talking shit
The doll wasn't in the house before Victor brought him from the cave. The doll was Jade's hallucination
The dog from the forest is the real entity controlling everything. It hss an idea of stuff but doesnt fully understand human technology. Thats why theres power but the wires go to no where.
And eveyone knows dogs think the mail man and milk man are monsters in real life thats why they bark at them, hence the monsters look like random people the dog would see walking around town.
😂 im joking of course.
I agree and I appreciate you breaking it down so well. Now about Randall: he made a deal while chained up. "A promise is a promise" que the bugs to remind him. I think he thought the monsters wouldn't kill or hurt him when alone with them but was only half right. Again to take attention off that Randall was allowed to live they injured him. I imagine his promise and mission has something to do with wanting to move into the "hospital." He had become a team player, as Boyd said to him. But, only for the other side. One more thing about Clara there's a picture of like twins but it's a vertical reflection symmetrically down the middle with a face with blood in it's mouth and up near the eye where Clara was hit with the glass from the light bulb. Is this a picture of Clara and her duality?
Did Clara, being the first to see the storm, somehow contribute to it arising in the first place?
*spoilers* just in case.
why y'all think its people the spy and not the birds? the crows are literally everywhere, and they watch everything. everyone use to think its Tillie and we all see how that ended.
I would be more for the trees, birds and animals. (there are also the tunnels that ran under neath the Matthews house that could possibly go under everyone's house. there was proof that there were monsters up during the day when they should be sleeping. thanks to the one talking to victor.
everyone in this town is a reincarnation. they have a role to play and when that person dies in a role a new person is selected to fit that role again. it's a repeating cycle.
just like Tabitha is Maranda and Ethan is going to be victor. and Julie is the replacement of victor's sister. no one knows what happen to Cristopher or if he actually died in the town or not. he could still be very much alive. I haven't heard victor say that Christopher was dead. but we can assume he is dead. the yellow flowers can be a symbolism from the previous incarnations of Clara. Clara herself doesn't know why she chooses the yellow flowers.
And Kenny couldn’t find his mom screw driver. She probably took it and brought it down to the tunnels
Right after she removed that motel sign and summoned the spaghetti monster in her secret spaghetti monster summon tent. What? You missed that? Look again - that piece of dirt on her left shoe which you can see for three frames in season 2 episode 4 is clearly a hint. 🥴
@@Geesterification🤣
"we know the crows are the eyes and the ears of the monsters in town"
REALLY? You must have seen some episodes that no one else did.
No crows in the houses
Now I was thinking the same 😂😂 bc when did that get confirmed💀
This was so well done!! Im convinced now too!
I really like this theory but unfortunately, I think the writers have something more straightforward planned.
Far out! Love this, have been skeptical about Donna but holy hell
Victor was never supposed to be a character on “From “past the first season. He can’t be the reason because Harold Perrineau would not sign a contract without there be a clarified ending. Therefore, it’s not Victor as the person behind everything. You can go back and read and listen to all the interviews and Glen many things. We’ve been given all the answers already you just need to put them in place. It’s a game to start with.
I think Clara is like the ghost of father K and Tom the little boy in white in disguise.
I dont think she can fit in those tunnels
😅
i know someone rail thin that can fit down there and she lives in Colony House.....
😂😂
wooow, the scarf thing got me convinced she's definitely to blame for something...
This is a good theory and good supporting details, I also think Tillie for always being around when certain things happen, like with Elgin n her crocheting n her seeing the dead woman but was really in Elgins dream. Although I think it’s a dream within a dream as my main theory is they are in a dream somehow. Which is why when the little boy pushed Tabitha through lighthouse, she “woke up” in hospital because we all tend to “fall” in dreams n wake before the splat! And then we see she was in an accident due to cuts n bruises n then ends up BACK in town AFTER a car crash and now Vic’s father is there and happens to be “unconscious” during the time n “awakens” in town, so it’s either some sort of trauma causing all of them to dream, some experiment or the entity is living “nightmare” n he’s collecting victims. Not sure what, but I definitely feel there’s too much talk of dreams n nightmares n creatures only at night, lot of sleeping n waking, like the 3 that were chained up, etc.
What if she is adult version of Julie i guess in different time zone bcz specially we see in s3ep8 time travel scenes lol 😅
Jumbo Julie
In a early episode Victor said he found his mom he said he bury her but he didn't know if his sister made it out
Clara is Hurley: the ultimate twist that speaks to Fromville
Acosta is Anna Lucia
Anyone who suspects Donna of being anything other than what we see is ignorant and not paying attention
Maybe tillie knew something nobody else did so when she died she said you have to run to warn faitma i mean it kinda make since for that to be sb last words
Elgin also has a crow on his shirt
This is an interesting theory!
❤I’m fascinated by your conclusions! I believe you are onto something here for sure.❤️
These theories are getting so creative that I think the show's writers are gonna run out of good endings and twists trying to avoid what the fans already thought of,
hence us (the viewers) are always gonna be disappointed with what they are left to present. 😂
And..... Someone has to bring up her weight. 🙄 Seriously, female actresses are just judged so hard on their bodies. You never see the guys copping sly little digs about their weight. 🙄
Females can take it, they have gIrL PoWeR
Amazing observation
just look at the pic at victor dad house, its her as a white face
Yooo ...i literally was thinking this. That its soo sus !! That clara is always there for something esp...when she is being showed the camera always zooms n focused in.
Clara has been suspicious since season 1.
I’m laughing at these “theories” now. Just all over the place. Wasn’t nobody focusing on Clara, now that tillie ruled out y’all had to find somebody new to pick on🤦🏾♀️🤣🤣
I swear 😂😂😂😂
Hahah
I always pointed out both of them. Although Tillie is out she even died weirdly (you have to run...what?). But you are right.😂 ("Víctor is sus" "No, is Jim" "Watch out Donna"). Sorry for my English 🫰🏻
most people been sus of tilly and clara for a long while now and tillie is for sure not "ruled out" it's almost more likely that she was up to something with how she died but who knows. That's why I love this show because we really dont have any idea what's going to happen or how deep it goes.
Long before Tillie got to the town I was suspicious of Clara. There are actually quite a few of us on Reddit that have been saying this since early season two.
For me, there's just been something about her that has given me a feeling of unease.
I didn't think Tillie was suspect and could never get behind the notion of her being the mole.
NPC's don't usually have much screentime unless they are relevant, or about to be killed off. Clara has gotten too much screentime for no real reason.
Then the diner scene really pushed me to question her even more. For exactly the same reason why this guy stated.
I won't say you're wrong but I'm not convinced.
Smiley is her brother !?!?
I agree there are many things pointimg to Clara but i dp think it would be interesting if Randall was the mole. Think about it by him kidnapping Donna and being the first to really get into the idea of a mole it would take any suspicion away from him as hes the one who came up with the theory.
Why would she feel bad for Kenny?!?! What?? Everyone does you’d have to be a monster
Very interesting theory - I did not think of this. Agree this would be an interesting twist
Ok, if you truly suspect Clara (based on I don't know what), then you can easily say that one guy in the bsckground with not a single line of dialogue is the evil mastermind behind everything.
Dam dude, I really think u guys might be right, when I first seen this video, I didn’t click on it cuz I was like WtF no way, Clara is just a weirdo…. But when I watched it…. I was like wow… makes alot of sense… Clara could be talking to jasper… jasper is taking care of Clara, cuz she is helping him
Guess we gotta pin it on someone else now that tillie got killied
In episode seven TILLY has the same flowers in a little vase that she takes to Fatima's room.
By "causing discourse" I am assuming you mean "sowing discord."
Yes! Thank you, didn’t know if it was just me that was bothered by that 😂
Clara is the one who could make Jasper tell the story...
wow, im speechless . I never thought of her as the mole, becuse I paid she no attention. I'm convinced
Clara now? The Tilly thing didn’t work out and so now Clara? Hmph
Clara = Eloise? Shiiiiiiiiit
@@Larry_Canonica 🔥
DUDE she has always stuck out to me!!
She was also bleeding from one eye when colony house was attacked, right?
To me victor is the mastermind behind all of this
Too obvious
He said jade who.went into the cave with victors dad cant take what he says serious when he doesn't know who is who
So many speculation again first it the elder lady with card now poor Clara
Taking a bottle to a face just to stay hidden wen nobody expect u for shit is wild
Brilliant!
Undermined not underminded
his theories are always flimsy. how is it unlikely they moved the items in the cave when they moved them from the town in the first place???? elgin wears crows too??? none of the extras speak or show up in every episode, only clara. its likely to save money which results in her looking suspicious. her being the last out of the house can be suspicious but SOMEONE has to be the last to exit, she couldve been doing somethin as simple as pleasuring herself lol
Listen! Ive had this theaory for a while this woman is the mole!
What if From is like the tv version of the watchers amd it ends the same way
There's no reincarnation. There's roles to play ij each cycle of residents
The birds on her bag as crows is such a reach i couldn't coninur watching 😅
Hm, you sure the monster in the cave when Victor & his father ventured in sitting next to Jasper at that table who woke up wasn't Christopher?
Nice work
Thanks
Discord not discourse
How has Clara managed to eat so well to maintain such a large size, while all other “Fromonians” have rations? Perhaps that is a little proof that she is Mole?
The 3 people i think are the spy are jade (in the future), Randall or Clara
4:01 - Victor and Henry not jade and Henry
Yh mistake
I think Clara is Eloise.
This one I like.
Good theory
Nice theory. Sorry to nitpick but the word you're looking for is discord not discourse
Bruh you reaching 😂
Idk why they would NEED a mole or a spy because they know things already and always have
And who cares if she missed what Tabitha did in the meeting? It isn’t much obviously cause she’s back so fast and nothing happened and they all behaved bad
Ya have a very good point
She doesnt seem effected by the crop losses either...
🤣
First off nice theory but far fetched, number 2 everyone didn’t die in the town , 3rd the only person that knows what happened is still alive that in its self is highly suspicious
Possession , split personality maybe but he’s not innocent by along shot
Am I missing something or didn’t someone try to kill the crows? What if they started murdering all the crows. Why did they end up in the house right when tillie was doing tarot? The crows have eyes 👀
I don't think Fatima was chosen for that reason. She couldn't have children and now this place is starting to drive her crazy in this way and play with her feelings, and Elis has already seen how his beloved person is going crazy which is his biggest fear.
Dude really thinks Victor is Jade
She is hoarding food for sure.
She is what you'd call a glorified "extra" in this show, a filler character. Nothing more.
But haven't you noticed that she has two arms and two legs? That's four limbs. FOUR, CARL! Add those three red stones and you'll get seven. Four and seven! Could it be a coincidence? I don't think so. I rest my case. 🥸
@Geesterification 😂
I do agree with the spy theory but i dont think its her tho
Else’s shirt had a crow in it?
I been saying that all along she’s to noticeable with her Hi’s
I’ve been saying Clara is the mole or she’s gona die due to gettin more and more camera time.
Also, didn't Niki swear at her? Convenient that she was the one to die ..
I agree
Jade is the one that is going to make jasper talk
Man i didn't even know her name.
I think Donna And Clara are blood related to Tilly though her children or her grandchildren.
They have 5 letters in their names and both of them had one letter repeat in their names like Clara's name with the a and Donna's name with the n.
Tilly must've had her family here secretly without boyd and everyone finding out. She has them doing stuff for her, so she could be there listen and watch everyone if something changes from her plan then she insert herself into the situation and have a conversation with the person to keep them from if figuring out the truth every time.
Tilly and Donna and Clara were near Fatima at least once or twice and all of them did talking to Fatima at separate times.
I think Donna is being forced while Clara seems to be willing,
Tilly is definitely evil if this turned out to be true.
Something about Tilly and and Donna and Clara being family is still a possibility for me until proven otherwise.
Proven otherwise now? 😂