@@dreamon7295 34 minutes into the wendigoon interview on the wensigang channel. The said video is just youtu. be/eX9iFT-IvSs I broke the link in case of bot censor filters
I think the name O’brian could also have some symbolism to the book 1984, Obrian being a character which Winston thought would lead the society to safety but actually betrays them, tortured them. This society is also like the opposite extreme to the Mandela catalogue, making everyone have a ‘telescreen’ in every room to keep watch on them.. idk it’s just some interesting links
I think Gabriel and the Intruder are not competing forces, but the same one. You had mentioned the holy trinity and I think Gabriel is meant to be the Father, the Intruder the Spirit, and Adam the Son. I think the Intruder uses children to create and spread alternates to do Gabriel's bidding and at the same time try and find the right vessel to be Gabriel's son which turned out to be Adam.
This makes sense because gabriel and the intruder seems to be on the same side because gabriel said this to david before killing him you still managed to follow the shepperd and in the 2nd vol of the series the intruder says to adam you followed the shepperd follow my voice instead
@@caternity4621 I was actually under the impression that the entire TV and US-state stuff isn't actually them being under Gabriel's control, rather just a super worn-down national attitude to the fact that there is no way to defeat the alternates, and there is no way to avoid them, so save yourself the effort and do not respond to callers, and do not help people who are being attacked. Though, I've held this opinion since Vol. 1 and 2, but not necessarily maybe after Vol. 333 and 4. But I think the theory that the TV and US stuff isn't necessarily them being under an influence's control fits the theory that Gabriel and the Intruder aren't competing somehow.
Just something else to add, in vol 1, when the tape instructs you how to handle alternates, it tells you to block all entrances (which can be EXITS) and to keep a firearm with you…. Just remember what happened when Mark was left with a firearm and no exits…
Another huge reason 911 operators are possibly forbidden to help with alternates is because they don't know if the person calling is a real person in danger or an alternate itself. Such a facinating series!!
@@donuts3476 Well, at the beginning of the series they arnt. However, later in the series Mat brings up a good point about how the government could've been overthrown by alternates... Which means it's highly likely that police and 911 dispatchers later on were replaced with alternates. It's a bizarre and complex story for sure.
You guys can't be actually believeing the alternate controls the government there this one big plot hole if the alternates control the government why won't the government take the sanctions off and make tv legal again if you want the most accurate theories go to wendigang channel and go to live scroll down and watch mandela catalogue vol4 wendigoon much better than matpats theories.
Series is still my favorite, the Mandela catalogues is the only series that seems to keep me awake at night and actually makes me feel like something is out to get me. Can't believe this indie series made by a single man scares me more so then the multitude of horror movies made by teams of people with hundreds of cinematography technologies under a company, only story that made me feel remotely scared was smile and that movie seemed like it had actual thought out into it. Also these theories are also really interesting, story goes from completely scary to feeling like a old history documentary I would be watching at 11 pm, keep up the good work matpat!
it takes a lot to scare me….but jfc alex knows horror. i was watching night minds breakdown of it and he explained how alex perfectly portrayed horror with this one. i don’t know how they did it but alternate thatcher will now be the thing that haunts me during my sleep paralysis episodes. this was phenomenal
@@justbethinking I think it's the opposite, we feel uneasy because we can't figure out whether it's a "threat" or not especially if it's humanlike, I think these scares are effective because they combine uncanny images with our knowledge that these creatures are dangerous/a scary atmosphere
Here is something I noticed in the Mandela Cataloge I noticed the religions that the government are heavily discouraged were religions with the devil and demons, and ways to get rid of them. Because of that, my theory is that Gabriel is trying to eliminate possible threats to his alternates.
While I understand your thought process I’m also gonna have to say no. It is kinda shown that while the alternates might have some power over the government that the power they do have is minimal. I honestly think matpat kinda forgot the part in the T.H.I.N.K principle where the screen glitches out after the “K1LL Y0URS3LF” message and it gets replaced with “KNOW YOUR PLACE IN REALITY”, showing that it’s not the actual advice, and instead it was just briefly replaced by an alternate, cause they affect technology (something that is shown repeatedly in the series) Anyways don’t know if that was intelligible, kinda lost the train of thought there for a moment. What I actually meant to comment was that in this series the alternates corrupted and hijacked religion. Meaning that by worshipping one of the major religions you are actually just following the alternates teachings. Being religious is exactly what they’d want. The advice to avoid religion is legitimate.
@@schlorping5156 I agree that alternates have minimal control. The reason I think that is because alternates haven't been studied or researched by the government, they simply assume and used basic precautions for intruders. (i.e lock all entrances, don't communicate, and use force when necessary). It is bad advice for alternates but it isn't on purpose. The government has little to no knowledge on them. Other videos from the government from the series (like the Metaphysical awareness disorder video) is good advice and could work (i.e staying away from religion).
basically since gabriel has taken the place and role of jesus / god, he is the one who receives the prayers of practising people. therefore, practising religion allows gabriel to have more control over you and leaves you way more vulnerable to the alternates
@@schlorping5156it is more likely that Gabriel is against religion because it prevents people from killing themselves and the truth about Gabriel is exposed in the religion
I found the faceless portrayal of Gabriel in volume 4 a lot more eerie than the depictions from earlier in the series. Like, imagine seeing that in live-action, just an angelic, faceless figure in the clouds silently surrounded by a dark, unholy aura.
the mandela catalogue makes me so paranoid, i used to think i had to make lemonade every night and give it to my family in the morning to make sure they're not alternates.
Correction: O'Brien was Gabriel in disguise. Same voice actor, his voice even started to slip a bit into Gabriel when he told Dave to stay where he was.
Okay... I love how I see Mandela and I instantly think the Mandela Effect. Then I actually watch the video and the first thing I see is something creepy I didn't even know was going on and I LOVE it!
The point made at 13:29 could also back up the idea that intruder (6) and Gabriel are on opposite sides to an even further extent. In the context of Christianity, babies/children who are k1lled are considered inherently pure and are sent to heaven. With every new alternate Gabriel creates and every person that commits sewer slide (i/e the actual soul being sent to h3ll), he gains two ‘followers’. With every child 6 ‘captures’, he gains one ‘follower’ - smiting Gabriel in the process.
I feel like there are multiple intruders with different levels of hostility, mark heathcliff's encounter went smoothly with no one harmed this implies that the first intruder is a burglar alternate, the second one being the kidnapper, and the third one could be the most hostile
Stanley’s message reminds me a lot about tulpas, a sorta imaginary friend that’s said to be a magical creature that attains corporeal reality, having been originally merely imaginary. While they may seem like imaginary friends many believe they are much more powerful and you must be careful when interacting with them. Also if I recall Alex made a community post showing the different types of alternates though it seems to have been deleted. Unsure if it’s been archived at all
It's incredibly impressive that this guy (or guys? Maybe it's a group) would put all of this work into this project with a really solid story behind it that shows this has been planned out. Personally I'm not into Horror, but I am always impressed by someone with vision who takes the time to do the work and get it done right. I hope this leads them to further success in their story telling and film making.
That wouldn’t make sense at all because adam was abducted by the intruder. Unless the intruder is a time traveler I can’t see that happening. Though maybe unconsciously adam took over as the intruder when he grew older.
@@adammorin2955 I think the intruder being a time traveler is exactly the point as he would have knowledge of the kids who are to become the alternates. Thats also one of mat's points Edit: Also if we think that adam and thereby the intruder being an alternate he would have knowledge beyond human comprehension which would theoretically (film theoretically) make it completely plausible.
@@Hylj3z I don’t see how he would be able to time travel though. I personally think the intruder just uses the Stanley program on tv to abduct the kids randomly so gabriel can’t get them as alternates for himself. I feel like adam was a very special kid and alternate now. Since the intruder and gabriel both want him at any cost. I think adam might be the alternate that is more powerful then any other alternate for whatever reason and not cause of time travel but i can be wrong!
@@adammorin2955 i believe that the intruder and gabriel are not opposing forces at all, their powers actually work in tangent with each other. The intruder is able to take control of any screen, while gabriel is seemingly able to create alternates. This explains the stanley program as the intruder makes the children think of an imaginary character, then gabriel causes that character to be manifested as a real world alternate. Here's the cycle that I've thought up; the intruder causes children to think of an imaginary friend, then kidnaps the child, gabriel creates an alternate that takes the place of that child, that alternate grows up believing itself to be human until finally, it learns about the fact that it is an alternate and becomes the sort of alternate that we saw in vol. 333 until it copies to body of a human. THIS is why adam is special. Adam, as the intruder states in vol. 4, is not the real adam. He is one of the sleeper alternates that was planted in a human family. However, even after learning that he could be an alternate, he maintains his human form, seemingly because he "followed the shepherd", making him an extremely valuable asset, as he can become a sort of "second intruder", as he can corrupt others while maintaining the facade of being a human. This also explains the alternates in vol. 2. They were sent to make adam recognize that he is an alternate, adding an entirely new meaning to the line "wake up adam, do not make me wake the others."
If by Adam you mean the real Adam (who was kidnapped as a child), then that would mean that Adam would be stuck in a causality loop. The main problem with that is that there's no evidence to support that. If by Adam you mean his alternate, then that's impossible as it's been confirmed by Alex that The Intruder is not an alternate.
I think Adam and Evelyn’s names could be referencing the first portion of the video. Eve staring at Adam over her fearing him as he’s not the same man she knew similar to what Evelyn talks about in the altered remembrance tape.
they said that adam met gabriel and when he came back he wasnt the same, scaring eve. adam met the intruder and when he came back he wasnt the same, scaring evelin. he told her things she didnt want to know. just like adam did. holy crap that is such a good parallel alex is a genuis.
I wonder how Mat feels knowing Alex publicly said that his theory about Gabriel and the Intruder being opposing factions is incorrect and the funniest theory on the series he's seen.
@@therealevilmudbug Wendigoon did an interview with him a few months back, when asked about what Alex thought was the funniest theory he's seen, to summarize, he picked the theory that Gabriel and the Intruder are opposing factions.
Do not. When Matpat say that there is something off with religious imagery. He mean Sunday school pop-Christianity off. Actual bible is far more insane then this series. th-cam.com/video/40KcrrfbJ6o/w-d-xo.html
Between MatPat and Wendigoon's theories I feel like we're all piecing together the story of the Mandela Catalogue for real! It's also really compelling to see the difference in what they both pick up on and focus on with the series
Honestly, I don’t think Matpat has added much. There’s no real indication that Gabriel and the Intruder are opposed at all. Gabriel’s monologue to Dave in Vol. 4 suggests the opposite from how the implications it gives.
Hey MatPat, I’m a big fan of your content! I doubt you’ll be reading this, but on the off chance you do I think you should consider making a theory on an indie series on TH-cam’s platform called Murder Drones. It’s rich of lore, theory’s, and is… criminally unknown for how good it is. Cheers!
Fun fact: I was watching the 3rd Volume once, and when Stanley said to think of a friend, I actually thought of a friend that I would want. I followed all the steps, and when he said to search for it inside my home, I was too lazy to go inside because I was outside. Wow, 10 year old me was crazy. Lucky I’m 11.
I like how Gabriel is named Gabriel after one of the archangels. He's a patron over radio broadcasters, messengers, and the likes. So it's sort of ironic that the intruder, who used to follow Gabriel, is using technology that the angel is a patron of. Also, another series that I think is good for theories is the "Yellowjackets". It takes inspiration from som true events but also has supernatural elements as well the second season comes out in March.
Freakin love this series. The religious iconography being twisted, the uncanny valley alternates and the sheer creepy mystery of it all is phenomenal. Can't wait to see where it leads, but also don't want it to end 👽❤💀
I have always been too scared to watch Mandela Catalogue, but I feel like with Mat and his theories it makes the content less scary and more enjoyable. Thanks MatPat for all your amazing theories!!!
Despite the f’d up ways of the intruder, I think he is the most good guy out of this whole thing. Sure he is doing something horrible but as Matpat said before, he is saving children from the influence of gabriel
I don’t think the intruder is good, or even just an opposing force against the false Shepard, I just think he’s a stronger version of an alternate, i think he has a different use for the false Shepard, he steals children and turns them into alternates, creating more
Yeah exactly. Matpat is making the assumption that the intruder is somehow at conflict with the alternate forces. But I agree- the whole POINT is that he took Adam and replaced him with an alternate Maybe there’s something we both missed but I think your theory is more obviously correct than matpat’s
I don’t think MatPat ever implied the intruder was good. He was saying the god fight is evil (Satan) vs evil (the intruder). It’s going to be Adam’s decision to hopefully reject both evil gods and fight for humanity.
Another thing I love about TMC is the names of the characters - Adam, EVElin, Mark, Jonah, Caesar, Jude/Judas, Ruth. It’s not as subtle as most of the themes in the series but a noteworthy one
Kind of upset we didn't get to hear much about Thatcher, he survived the encounter. Was a big example of the alternates taking form of someone in government, and he seems like one of the main protagonists alongside eve and Adam.
I’m interested in him, but his Kurt Cobain haircut distracts from the fear i think I would have gotten from his story. I have never seen a cop that looked like that
I'd also like to point out all of the 1984 parallels in vol.4 O'Brien was a character who pretended to be a rebel and then turned out to be a party spy. Similar to what O'Brien did in vol.4. Covering the TV could also be a reference to the TV's that are used for monitoring the populace.
9:57 Mandela Catalogue gives me nightmares, I won’t lie about that, but this visual nearly made me cry laughing. The little alternates look like bowling pins! 😂💀
8:40 But these two things aren't conflicting - they told people to fight back against alternates and now telling police dispatchers to not help callers. Those two facts are not a change of mind. It could be that government understands that it's pointless to try help people and they will just get their officers killed if they would help, and the first video was just to give people some advice and maybe put some hope that they can defend themselves against alternates. Or it could be that they intentionally told people to fight back against alternates (which is a bad idea, as the series clearly states) and then told police to not help for obvious reasons if they are being puppeted by alternates.
The funny part about seeing mandela catalogue so famous nowadays, is that I found it before it became well known. I found while looking for cool mandela affects but my auto correct switched it to catalogue for no reason, I scrolled down to see a disturbing image and my heart stopped for what felt like forever. I will never forget the pure and genuine fear I felt in that moment.
I just need to break my silence to say that at 4:21 the video paused without me realising and the fruits basket anime ending started to playing over the image from a separate tab and I spent the whole time thinking I was going insane
8:47 i think that alternates block all comunication, so if a person ask help because alternates... He is an alternate triying to lure innocents. It happened a lot in the series
> creating a new race of humans > choosing a path to follow: technology, religion, or a third path > boy with a special destiny and unusual circumstances Boy SMT6 is looking pretty fire
Hot dang, someone needs to hire these ARG creators as the movie/TV writers. Original, complex stories with layers, carefully crafted over time so no one minds that it takes ages to complete.
I have a feeling after Volume 4, Davis is going to take it upon himself to fight two false gods to save humanity. At this point, most of Mandela County have alternates (even a copy of Davis himself).
yeah, i think he'll probably die trying or die after succeeding, i think it will be his way of redeeming himself after failing to save mark and many other victims, if this is the case i really want to see a moment or scene after he fails or succeeds where Thatcher apologizes to Sarah
when he says how does it feel when a theory becomes a fact it seems like a direct reference to Boisvert when he says "When does a home become a Complex?" which is interesting because it follows this horror aspect as well as the fact that he reviewed it a few months back.
According to my friend, Robert, the Mandela catalog will end with Gabriel realising that what was really important was not power, but the friends he made along the way. Thankyou Alex kister. Thankyou film theory.
The whole hivemind thing is interesting. It implies that the alternate's are not so much creations of the devil as they are EXTENSIONS of him. This also explains why Adam cannot remember the fact he's an alternate, he was disconnected from the hivemind. And the reason he is a douche is that he is quite literally a piece of the devil. But I should point out the Inturder is not an 'Alternate gone rogue's, Alex has confirmed that the Intruder is not an alternate at all.
The Intruder can be interpreted as another False God vying for control or an Agent of God halting the devil's spread. KInda like a reverse Gabriel vs Samael/Lucifer bid.
said it over on GT Live comments but imagine it's all about an Alternate Civil War. Maybe Gabriel as the higher up leader setting out to conquer the world both in belief and in power, and The Intruder as a Rebel Leader trying to do a long-con such as making the Alternates live amongst humanity unnoticed, undisturbed, through trials and tribulations.
I will say after the last few videos this was my thought as well. I thought the intruder clearly is more advanced and has a clear ability to plan long term - with Adam as the main example, so clearly he has the ability to integrate the alternates, maybe he even has the ability to create better alternates. If he really was successful with Adam as he claims, no one ever suspected anything until his encounter with the alternate with Jonah and Sarah calling out his change in behavior -so maybe that implies something? I do agree with your civil war aspect, that would be pretty interesting if they show it play out
It’s funny that I can never tell what’s going on in the Mandela catalogue until I watch MatPat dissect it for me, yet it’s still the scariest piece of horror media I’ve ever consumed
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If Matpat was in a horror movie he would never scare me, his voice is extremely way too recognizable
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Well there was that one time in the FNAF musical series.
He'd make a terrifyingly great Disney villain or musical villain
It’s a just a kidnap,A KIDNAPPING
The line, “How does it feel when a theory becomes a fact?” is such a raw line it actually gave me chills.
Alex Kister (the creator of mandela catalogue) just publicly stated in an interview with Wendigoon that this theory is not correct
@@VarietyArc where’s the proof?
@@dreamon7295
34 minutes into the wendigoon interview on the wensigang channel.
The said video is just youtu. be/eX9iFT-IvSs
I broke the link in case of bot censor filters
@@dreamon7295 th-cam.com/video/eX9iFT-IvSs/w-d-xo.html
@@dreamon7295 bro 💀
Matpat: "the plushie is gonna be important"
Also matpat: *never talks about it again beyond that point*
Bro said sike
Bro said “I like my funny words magic man”
I got my gabriel figurine in the living room, added no extra context
Not the plushies, but the makeship Gabriel figure because of the description it provides on his character
So this whole segment at 7:05 just didn’t happen huh? 🤦♂️
the mandela catalogue can be summarised in a single sentence
"identity theft is not a joke, jim."
I laughed so hard reading this for some reason
Mandela catalog x the office-
@@anartistnamedmari Millions of families suffer every year 😭
Referring to the parents who lost their child/children🙏💀
@@Nothing-mu1pg NAH BRO FR LIKE 3,000 SOMETHING CHILDREN MISSING IN INTRUDER ALERT!
@@anartistnamedmari Stranger danger be not working 💀
I think the name O’brian could also have some symbolism to the book 1984, Obrian being a character which Winston thought would lead the society to safety but actually betrays them, tortured them. This society is also like the opposite extreme to the Mandela catalogue, making everyone have a ‘telescreen’ in every room to keep watch on them.. idk it’s just some interesting links
Literally 1984
Yes, everything is 1984. Great, you solved it.
Omg I was just thinking about this
When your surname is O’Brian but spelt with an E instead of an A
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The real horror is remembering this channel is 12 years old already
No it's not.
7 years
It’s 7 years
Game theory isn’t 12 years either it’s 13 years
@@Fluxaterion one of the old intros literally states that the channel started In 2011.
@@caitlinjohannessen3672 started, not uploaded. Like a car company can be started years before it produces a car, ideas, research, design, etc.
I think Gabriel and the Intruder are not competing forces, but the same one. You had mentioned the holy trinity and I think Gabriel is meant to be the Father, the Intruder the Spirit, and Adam the Son. I think the Intruder uses children to create and spread alternates to do Gabriel's bidding and at the same time try and find the right vessel to be Gabriel's son which turned out to be Adam.
then why would he tell people to stay away from tv screens? that just makes him useless.
This makes sense because gabriel and the intruder seems to be on the same side because gabriel said this to david before killing him you still managed to follow the shepperd and in the 2nd vol of the series the intruder says to adam you followed the shepperd follow my voice instead
@@caternity4621 I was actually under the impression that the entire TV and US-state stuff isn't actually them being under Gabriel's control, rather just a super worn-down national attitude to the fact that there is no way to defeat the alternates, and there is no way to avoid them, so save yourself the effort and do not respond to callers, and do not help people who are being attacked. Though, I've held this opinion since Vol. 1 and 2, but not necessarily maybe after Vol. 333 and 4. But I think the theory that the TV and US stuff isn't necessarily them being under an influence's control fits the theory that Gabriel and the Intruder aren't competing somehow.
@@hamingnu6610 my theory is the otherwise, but since both of them fits the story we need another video to confirm these theories.
@@bonzc9857 that was Gabriel that said it in volume 2 still. Not the intruder.
Just something else to add, in vol 1, when the tape instructs you how to handle alternates, it tells you to block all entrances (which can be EXITS) and to keep a firearm with you…. Just remember what happened when Mark was left with a firearm and no exits…
He got dead
IIRC alternates can be dealt with via good old Murrika method so the advice of not being scared and confronting them comes full circle
Bro Gabriel is just low tier god fr
Wait....they just played themselves.....
how come gabriels stupid twisted face haunts me more than literally anything in any horror movie or game ive ever seen
God same.
It looks so stupid and somehow it just works.
Bro exactly 💀💀
Honestly, that's not too bad, but the alternates on the other hand are terrifying to me. xD;
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After over 6 months, and he finally made that Part 2 we were looking for
You should feel lucky 3 people are copy pasters
Part 3, also YEAH IKR
@Don't Read Profile Photo I love these guys
Wait this is part 3????? Yes this is part 3
Here is the full clip : th-cam.com/video/6g7b8pC9U1M/w-d-xo.html
Another huge reason 911 operators are possibly forbidden to help with alternates is because they don't know if the person calling is a real person in danger or an alternate itself. Such a facinating series!!
What if the 911 operators is a alternate hmm
@@donuts3476 Well, at the beginning of the series they arnt. However, later in the series Mat brings up a good point about how the government could've been overthrown by alternates... Which means it's highly likely that police and 911 dispatchers later on were replaced with alternates. It's a bizarre and complex story for sure.
@Alexa Horan yeah sorta scary. If ur in danger ur first reaction is to call a emergency number, but If those arnt safe then u are screwed.
@@donuts3476 agreed lol
You guys can't be actually believeing the alternate controls the government there this one big plot hole if the alternates control the government why won't the government take the sanctions off and make tv legal again if you want the most accurate theories go to wendigang channel and go to live scroll down and watch mandela catalogue vol4 wendigoon much better than matpats theories.
Stanley is 100% a reference to Nobody from Seasame Street, which is very popular because of how traumatizing he was to a lot of kids.
i just looked it up and i cannot beLIEVE anyone thought that was a good idea to show to kids !! it looks like a doctor who villain fhdsjk
I can finally watch the Mandela Catalogue without shitting myself thx mattpat
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Series is still my favorite, the Mandela catalogues is the only series that seems to keep me awake at night and actually makes me feel like something is out to get me. Can't believe this indie series made by a single man scares me more so then the multitude of horror movies made by teams of people with hundreds of cinematography technologies under a company, only story that made me feel remotely scared was smile and that movie seemed like it had actual thought out into it.
Also these theories are also really interesting, story goes from completely scary to feeling like a old history documentary I would be watching at 11 pm, keep up the good work matpat!
it takes a lot to scare me….but jfc alex knows horror. i was watching night minds breakdown of it and he explained how alex perfectly portrayed horror with this one. i don’t know how they did it but alternate thatcher will now be the thing that haunts me during my sleep paralysis episodes. this was phenomenal
Here is the full clip th-cam.com/video/6g7b8pC9U1M/w-d-xo.html
Horror movies really don't feel the same anymore or maybe I am getting older...
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@Patrick39 here’s the best comeback I have for you:
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the mandela catalogue is one of the few things that truly scares me. the uncanny valley really fucks with me
and since the uncanny valley exists, does that mean humans evolved to fear distorted faces?
@@justbethinking I think it's the opposite, we feel uneasy because we can't figure out whether it's a "threat" or not especially if it's humanlike, I think these scares are effective because they combine uncanny images with our knowledge that these creatures are dangerous/a scary atmosphere
Never watched it but yeah I COULD NOT SLEEP AFTER ONE SCENE
i had watched too many mandela memes before i watched it so i ended up laughing the entire time 💀
@@justbethinkingyes you’re right on. Distorted faces can either be a predator or a diseased corpse
That line goes hard. Depending on the context, it can give a lot of emotions.
"How does it feel when Theory becomes a Fact?"
As someone who lives in Wisconsin, I can confirm that these are true events 👍
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@do not your name is do not so I’m not going to
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Here is something I noticed in the Mandela Cataloge I noticed the religions that the government are heavily discouraged were religions with the devil and demons, and ways to get rid of them. Because of that, my theory is that Gabriel is trying to eliminate possible threats to his alternates.
While I understand your thought process I’m also gonna have to say no. It is kinda shown that while the alternates might have some power over the government that the power they do have is minimal. I honestly think matpat kinda forgot the part in the T.H.I.N.K principle where the screen glitches out after the “K1LL Y0URS3LF” message and it gets replaced with “KNOW YOUR PLACE IN REALITY”, showing that it’s not the actual advice, and instead it was just briefly replaced by an alternate, cause they affect technology (something that is shown repeatedly in the series)
Anyways don’t know if that was intelligible, kinda lost the train of thought there for a moment. What I actually meant to comment was that in this series the alternates corrupted and hijacked religion. Meaning that by worshipping one of the major religions you are actually just following the alternates teachings. Being religious is exactly what they’d want. The advice to avoid religion is legitimate.
@@schlorping5156 I agree that alternates have minimal control. The reason I think that is because alternates haven't been studied or researched by the government, they simply assume and used basic precautions for intruders. (i.e lock all entrances, don't communicate, and use force when necessary). It is bad advice for alternates but it isn't on purpose. The government has little to no knowledge on them. Other videos from the government from the series (like the Metaphysical awareness disorder video) is good advice and could work (i.e staying away from religion).
basically since gabriel has taken the place and role of jesus / god, he is the one who receives the prayers of practising people. therefore, practising religion allows gabriel to have more control over you and leaves you way more vulnerable to the alternates
@@schlorping5156it is more likely that Gabriel is against religion because it prevents people from killing themselves and the truth about Gabriel is exposed in the religion
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I found the faceless portrayal of Gabriel in volume 4 a lot more eerie than the depictions from earlier in the series. Like, imagine seeing that in live-action, just an angelic, faceless figure in the clouds silently surrounded by a dark, unholy aura.
Oh absolutely not, no wonder angels always gotta say "don't be afraid"
missed opportunity for matpat to put wc's "i was the first, i have seen everything" line at 7:14
Ah, growing up in the late 2000s in Wisconsin. A time of Lego sets, the Wii, and my Dad unplugging his CRT television. Life was good.
@Okeyy..you moment
@yes possibly the only time this type of comment has ever been remotely funny
@yes you
Time to wait 6 more months for another carefully crafted masterpiece by Mr. Kister.
@whaaa t HOW DARE YOU
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@Bunny Farouq SHUT UP FOR GOD SAKE
the mandela catalogue makes me so paranoid, i used to think i had to make lemonade every night and give it to my family in the morning to make sure they're not alternates.
Lemonade????? Lmaooo
@@schlorping5156 the cons of schizophrenia.
Okay…
@@mew_inkies1049 what are the pros
@@ratmations8306 You will always be cautious of your surroundings no matter where you go, including other humans.
9:58 the way the alternates walk it's just so funny, they're litterally just bouncing up and down 💀
boing boing boing
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That frame of Adam standing over Eve is one of the creepiest things to come out of this series
Correction: O'Brien was Gabriel in disguise. Same voice actor, his voice even started to slip a bit into Gabriel when he told Dave to stay where he was.
This is not even just analog horror anymore. This seems like such a cool idea for a book or tv show
So Alex Kister (the creator of mandela catalogue) just publicly stated in an interview with Wendigoon that this theory is not correct, but was funny.
This isn't true at all
I wouldn’t be surprised if the creator smh changed his mind and proceeds to go with Matt’s theory.
@@jessajay1862 I don’t think he would do that
@@jessajay1862 Matt is not a reliable source of theories, really.
*Tf2 theories, Hollow Knight and many others...*
He's better at FNAF.
@@OnceUponReddit It is
Okay... I love how I see Mandela and I instantly think the Mandela Effect. Then I actually watch the video and the first thing I see is something creepy I didn't even know was going on and I LOVE it!
Lol yes
The fact that it's been months since the last episode makes my perception of time confused
@Not gonna lie why did you that “full clip” comment?
@@kaxcommentssomethingREAL sorry, but I ain't a bot bruv. Took me this long to respond, I'm not a bot.
The point made at 13:29 could also back up the idea that intruder (6) and Gabriel are on opposite sides to an even further extent. In the context of Christianity, babies/children who are k1lled are considered inherently pure and are sent to heaven. With every new alternate Gabriel creates and every person that commits sewer slide (i/e the actual soul being sent to h3ll), he gains two ‘followers’. With every child 6 ‘captures’, he gains one ‘follower’ - smiting Gabriel in the process.
yeah maybe the intruder is actually trying to do good
that’s pretty mean how people are suffering of depression and they commit die and then they suffer even more by being turned into a tree
@@rania6674 i like villains that have noble goals but they need to do it in the most evil way to succeed
I thought babies/children that are killed or die were sent to purgatory
@@OGAntzmo that’s even worse than the whole suicide thing bruh
I feel like there are multiple intruders with different levels of hostility, mark heathcliff's encounter went smoothly with no one harmed this implies that the first intruder is a burglar alternate, the second one being the kidnapper, and the third one could be the most hostile
As a born and raised wisconsinite I can tell you this is just an average Thursday night
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It’s always Wisconsin
As a Michigander, the Vibes we get from across the Lake confirm this statement.
Yes it is
You guys should make a analogue horror series
These bots bro
Maybe
@Patrick39 what?
@@reedomuyb better
Now it's not off limits, they made a partnership to make more content, the 4th channel is on the way!!
Stanley’s message reminds me a lot about tulpas, a sorta imaginary friend that’s said to be a magical creature that attains corporeal reality, having been originally merely imaginary. While they may seem like imaginary friends many believe they are much more powerful and you must be careful when interacting with them. Also if I recall Alex made a community post showing the different types of alternates though it seems to have been deleted. Unsure if it’s been archived at all
Could the intruder really be the antihero in the Mandela Catalogue? If so, I think that’s actually awesome.
Pretty sure Alex Kister disproved it(but to be honest, the series would be a whole lot better if this theory was true)
It's incredibly impressive that this guy (or guys? Maybe it's a group) would put all of this work into this project with a really solid story behind it that shows this has been planned out.
Personally I'm not into Horror, but I am always impressed by someone with vision who takes the time to do the work and get it done right. I hope this leads them to further success in their story telling and film making.
If Gabriel is the first alternate... then the real question is
Who is he an alternate of?
Most likely the alternate of the Real Archangel Gabriel who told Mary that she would conceive Jesus in the Bible.
This comment was given a creepy like feeling to it, thru two rows of sentences, but it got explained easily which ruined that feeling
@iamafraidofwomencorrect
God I guess
The first alternate he made
I assume the one still be unclear mystery should be the intruder
I considered not publishing my theory but i think Adam IS the intruder. I know it wouldn't make sense but i still feel like that might be the case
That wouldn’t make sense at all because adam was abducted by the intruder. Unless the intruder is a time traveler I can’t see that happening. Though maybe unconsciously adam took over as the intruder when he grew older.
@@adammorin2955 I think the intruder being a time traveler is exactly the point as he would have knowledge of the kids who are to become the alternates. Thats also one of mat's points
Edit: Also if we think that adam and thereby the intruder being an alternate he would have knowledge beyond human comprehension which would theoretically (film theoretically) make it completely plausible.
@@Hylj3z I don’t see how he would be able to time travel though. I personally think the intruder just uses the Stanley program on tv to abduct the kids randomly so gabriel can’t get them as alternates for himself.
I feel like adam was a very special kid and alternate now. Since the intruder and gabriel both want him at any cost. I think adam might be the alternate that is more powerful then any other alternate for whatever reason and not cause of time travel but i can be wrong!
@@adammorin2955 i believe that the intruder and gabriel are not opposing forces at all, their powers actually work in tangent with each other. The intruder is able to take control of any screen, while gabriel is seemingly able to create alternates. This explains the stanley program as the intruder makes the children think of an imaginary character, then gabriel causes that character to be manifested as a real world alternate. Here's the cycle that I've thought up; the intruder causes children to think of an imaginary friend, then kidnaps the child, gabriel creates an alternate that takes the place of that child, that alternate grows up believing itself to be human until finally, it learns about the fact that it is an alternate and becomes the sort of alternate that we saw in vol. 333 until it copies to body of a human. THIS is why adam is special. Adam, as the intruder states in vol. 4, is not the real adam. He is one of the sleeper alternates that was planted in a human family. However, even after learning that he could be an alternate, he maintains his human form, seemingly because he "followed the shepherd", making him an extremely valuable asset, as he can become a sort of "second intruder", as he can corrupt others while maintaining the facade of being a human. This also explains the alternates in vol. 2. They were sent to make adam recognize that he is an alternate, adding an entirely new meaning to the line "wake up adam, do not make me wake the others."
If by Adam you mean the real Adam (who was kidnapped as a child), then that would mean that Adam would be stuck in a causality loop. The main problem with that is that there's no evidence to support that. If by Adam you mean his alternate, then that's impossible as it's been confirmed by Alex that The Intruder is not an alternate.
I think Adam and Evelyn’s names could be referencing the first portion of the video. Eve staring at Adam over her fearing him as he’s not the same man she knew similar to what Evelyn talks about in the altered remembrance tape.
3:33 am is also known as the witching hour where supernatural entities are believed to more powerful than usual
Why I keep a Bible near so those who do evil may be rebuked in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
@@rob5792 i deceived them...to have a party! *plays jesus loves me*
So they're like escanor, where they get a power up for like 1 minute of one day and then that's it?
@@evangonzalez7732 I don't know how it works, I didn't get the Bible DLC
@@NGPlus930 you're not a true Bible gamer then.
What if gabriel, was actually like gods alternate. I mean it says he was the first alternate.
I like the way you think.
God can have an alternate? Jesus
@@owyemen9367 I mean so far we don't really know where they come from
This fake Gabriel is Gabriel's alternate, not God's
No, it's just Lucifier disguising himself as the Archangel Gabriel
they said that adam met gabriel and when he came back he wasnt the same, scaring eve. adam met the intruder and when he came back he wasnt the same, scaring evelin. he told her things she didnt want to know. just like adam did. holy crap that is such a good parallel alex is a genuis.
I wonder how Mat feels knowing Alex publicly said that his theory about Gabriel and the Intruder being opposing factions is incorrect and the funniest theory on the series he's seen.
Where did he say this?
@@therealevilmudbug Wendigoon did an interview with him a few months back, when asked about what Alex thought was the funniest theory he's seen, to summarize, he picked the theory that Gabriel and the Intruder are opposing factions.
Plot Twist: this series just wants us to go read the Bible
Do not. When Matpat say that there is something off with religious imagery. He mean Sunday school pop-Christianity off. Actual bible is far more insane then this series.
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The bible is cool but it is pretty time consuming to read all through the pages
If you wann a solve it you have to read the bible
@@duckgod666 Unfortunately not really.
Why would someone waste their time for that book of bullshits tho.
Happy to see after the announcement from game theory yesterday you guys are covering this again. Happy to see nothing changed.
That is so true tho, I was really afraid that he would change I am just glad this episode was as normal as some of the other ones❤
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Between MatPat and Wendigoon's theories I feel like we're all piecing together the story of the Mandela Catalogue for real! It's also really compelling to see the difference in what they both pick up on and focus on with the series
I feel like wowmans theory also help,his theories make very sense
Honestly, I don’t think Matpat has added much. There’s no real indication that Gabriel and the Intruder are opposed at all. Gabriel’s monologue to Dave in Vol. 4 suggests the opposite from how the implications it gives.
Hey MatPat, I’m a big fan of your content!
I doubt you’ll be reading this, but on the off chance you do I think you should consider making a theory on an indie series on TH-cam’s platform called Murder Drones.
It’s rich of lore, theory’s, and is… criminally unknown for how good it is.
Cheers!
Just realized this wasn’t a recent video I clicked on 🤡
Fun fact: I was watching the 3rd Volume once, and when Stanley said to think of a friend, I actually thought of a friend that I would want. I followed all the steps, and when he said to search for it inside my home, I was too lazy to go inside because I was outside. Wow, 10 year old me was crazy. Lucky I’m 11.
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"Nice opinion one problem, I'm inside your house."
I like how Gabriel is named Gabriel after one of the archangels. He's a patron over radio broadcasters, messengers, and the likes. So it's sort of ironic that the intruder, who used to follow Gabriel, is using technology that the angel is a patron of.
Also, another series that I think is good for theories is the "Yellowjackets". It takes inspiration from som true events but also has supernatural elements as well the second season comes out in March.
Ok the whole warped face gimmick doesn’t usually get me, but Gabriel is legit terrifying
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Why did the doctor popping up scare me more than the shadow people?
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Freakin love this series. The religious iconography being twisted, the uncanny valley alternates and the sheer creepy mystery of it all is phenomenal. Can't wait to see where it leads, but also don't want it to end 👽❤💀
I have always been too scared to watch Mandela Catalogue, but I feel like with Mat and his theories it makes the content less scary and more enjoyable. Thanks MatPat for all your amazing theories!!!
I'm still scared those faces are creepy
Despite the f’d up ways of the intruder, I think he is the most good guy out of this whole thing. Sure he is doing something horrible but as Matpat said before, he is saving children from the influence of gabriel
1:49 So Psychic Friend Fred bear didn't count as plushie lore?
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Oh yeah...
Yeah but that was game theory
@mariellagutierrez2887 BuT tHaTs JuSt A tHeOrY
I don’t think the intruder is good, or even just an opposing force against the false Shepard, I just think he’s a stronger version of an alternate, i think he has a different use for the false Shepard, he steals children and turns them into alternates, creating more
Yeah exactly. Matpat is making the assumption that the intruder is somehow at conflict with the alternate forces. But I agree- the whole POINT is that he took Adam and replaced him with an alternate
Maybe there’s something we both missed but I think your theory is more obviously correct than matpat’s
@@PurgPurg But his theory...doesn't conflict with matpat's? Matpat is theorizing that the intruder has _his own_ force of alternates.
I don’t think MatPat ever implied the intruder was good. He was saying the god fight is evil (Satan) vs evil (the intruder).
It’s going to be Adam’s decision to hopefully reject both evil gods and fight for humanity.
Wendigoon is right
I just got into matpat's theories on the Mandela catalogue so this is my lucky day.
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Another thing I love about TMC is the names of the characters - Adam, EVElin, Mark, Jonah, Caesar, Jude/Judas, Ruth. It’s not as subtle as most of the themes in the series but a noteworthy one
Wasn't gabriel just acting as o brien? It's the same voice actor and we see o briens voice get distorted into gabriels voice
Kind of upset we didn't get to hear much about Thatcher, he survived the encounter. Was a big example of the alternates taking form of someone in government, and he seems like one of the main protagonists alongside eve and Adam.
I’m interested in him, but his Kurt Cobain haircut distracts from the fear i think I would have gotten from his story. I have never seen a cop that looked like that
I'd also like to point out all of the 1984 parallels in vol.4 O'Brien was a character who pretended to be a rebel and then turned out to be a party spy. Similar to what O'Brien did in vol.4. Covering the TV could also be a reference to the TV's that are used for monitoring the populace.
I think the intruder is saving kids and teaching them how to beat an alternate.
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What if the intruder was actually protecting the kids from Gabriel so they won’t be replaced
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He literally said that in the video.
intruder has killed people before
7:06 The figurine looks like Weird Al
9:57 Mandela Catalogue gives me nightmares, I won’t lie about that, but this visual nearly made me cry laughing. The little alternates look like bowling pins! 😂💀
I wonder how they are going to deal with Gabriel and wrap the series up. It’s for sure going to blow people away.
I love when Matpat has a scary/dark intro because after it, it's the joyful-ish intro that we all know and love. It really contrasts well.
Wow, it's great to watch this at night with all the lights in my house closed and my parents asleep while in my room alone!
8:40 But these two things aren't conflicting - they told people to fight back against alternates and now telling police dispatchers to not help callers. Those two facts are not a change of mind. It could be that government understands that it's pointless to try help people and they will just get their officers killed if they would help, and the first video was just to give people some advice and maybe put some hope that they can defend themselves against alternates. Or it could be that they intentionally told people to fight back against alternates (which is a bad idea, as the series clearly states) and then told police to not help for obvious reasons if they are being puppeted by alternates.
The fact that Satan (disguised as Gabriel) sounds like MatPat when he killed Dave, makes it even more creepy but unexpected too.
i feel like alternates are pretty much how every beginner artist's portrait art is like😂
as someone who struggles to draw human faces, i can confirm this is what my human drawings look like
@ScottAKAFrenchie.VIVELAFRANCE as someone who struggles to draw humans at all, I can confirm that alternates look way better than my """humans""".
The funny part about seeing mandela catalogue so famous nowadays, is that I found it before it became well known. I found while looking for cool mandela affects but my auto correct switched it to catalogue for no reason, I scrolled down to see a disturbing image and my heart stopped for what felt like forever. I will never forget the pure and genuine fear I felt in that moment.
Dang that’s crazy
I just need to break my silence to say that at 4:21 the video paused without me realising and the fruits basket anime ending started to playing over the image from a separate tab and I spent the whole time thinking I was going insane
8:47 i think that alternates block all comunication, so if a person ask help because alternates... He is an alternate triying to lure innocents. It happened a lot in the series
This is how i imagine supernatural the universe would be like if Dean and Sam didn't exist
lol , another Supernatural fan! The world would be trashed without Sam and Dean
I mean, other hunters do exist
> creating a new race of humans
> choosing a path to follow: technology, religion, or a third path
> boy with a special destiny and unusual circumstances
Boy SMT6 is looking pretty fire
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Man Spore 2 is shaping up to be real good
"how does it feel when a theory becomes a fact." is legit one of the hardest lines spoken.
Yeah it was, until Alex Kister (the creator of mandela catalogue) just publicly stated in an interview with Wendigoon that this theory is not correct
“uh oh! bad decision thatcher” WILL ALWAYS BE FUNNY😭
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Hot dang, someone needs to hire these ARG creators as the movie/TV writers. Original, complex stories with layers, carefully crafted over time so no one minds that it takes ages to complete.
I have a feeling after Volume 4, Davis is going to take it upon himself to fight two false gods to save humanity. At this point, most of Mandela County have alternates (even a copy of Davis himself).
yeah, i think he'll probably die trying or die after succeeding, i think it will be his way of redeeming himself after failing to save mark and many other victims, if this is the case i really want to see a moment or scene after he fails or succeeds where Thatcher apologizes to Sarah
when he says how does it feel when a theory becomes a fact it seems like a direct reference to Boisvert when he says "When does a home become a Complex?" which is interesting because it follows this horror aspect as well as the fact that he reviewed it a few months back.
I really would love to have MatPat and Wendigoon collaborate in theorizing the Mandela Catalogue
According to my friend, Robert, the Mandela catalog will end with Gabriel realising that what was really important was not power, but the friends he made along the way. Thankyou Alex kister. Thankyou film theory.
Two false gods fighting each other by influencing the minds of others and trying to win over a chosen being is such an interesting and cool theory
so isnt that just democracy
@@benjibenjo8938 American democracy. Other places don't accept just two possible candidates.
Alex Kister (the creator of mandela catalogue) just publicly stated in an interview with Wendigoon that this theory is not correct
@@VarietyArc Still a pretty cool one
Between you and Nick Nocturne, I feel like I understand this series better than some shows/movies that spell everything out
The whole hivemind thing is interesting. It implies that the alternate's are not so much creations of the devil as they are EXTENSIONS of him. This also explains why Adam cannot remember the fact he's an alternate, he was disconnected from the hivemind. And the reason he is a douche is that he is quite literally a piece of the devil.
But I should point out the Inturder is not an 'Alternate gone rogue's, Alex has confirmed that the Intruder is not an alternate at all.
The Intruder can be interpreted as another False God vying for control or an Agent of God halting the devil's spread. KInda like a reverse Gabriel vs Samael/Lucifer bid.
There’s a game I played with some friends at school that has something to do with the Mandela Catalog it is called assessment examination it’s scary
@Not gonna lie don’t click on it it’s lieing
how did you play?
@@Cross_Sans.X I wanna know too
Assessment Examination hasn't anything to do with the Mandela Catalogue, it's simply a game that took inspiration from it.
@@Cross_Sans.X all the students have chrome books
said it over on GT Live comments but imagine it's all about an Alternate Civil War. Maybe Gabriel as the higher up leader setting out to conquer the world both in belief and in power, and The Intruder as a Rebel Leader trying to do a long-con such as making the Alternates live amongst humanity unnoticed, undisturbed, through trials and tribulations.
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I will say after the last few videos this was my thought as well. I thought the intruder clearly is more advanced and has a clear ability to plan long term - with Adam as the main example, so clearly he has the ability to integrate the alternates, maybe he even has the ability to create better alternates. If he really was successful with Adam as he claims, no one ever suspected anything until his encounter with the alternate with Jonah and Sarah calling out his change in behavior -so maybe that implies something? I do agree with your civil war aspect, that would be pretty interesting if they show it play out
Stanley makes you imagine a perfect friend and it makes sense because your best friend would be another you
It’s funny that I can never tell what’s going on in the Mandela catalogue until I watch MatPat dissect it for me, yet it’s still the scariest piece of horror media I’ve ever consumed
6:23
You're incorrect
Tvs are a way for the intruder to interact with people. Covering up the TV would mean he's no longer helping the sheriff
0:13 did you call us monkey
*Cancel matpat*
I’m ⚫️
Matpat just insulted a race of people☠️
As one of the ghost comunity we feel bad for them
Yea
0:01 - Emo MatPat
OMG
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I love referring to The Thing as a “flick”
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15:30 RIGHT HERE, RIGHT HERE is when i went “Are you being for real right now?!”
Considering the fbi spends more time targeting Americans who question the status quo than protecting us, it’s no surprise 9:25
dont say that, they might kick down your door
You're gonna slip and accidentally lodge a bullet lying around if you don't stop
Few hours after that comment: "FBI OPEN UP!"
Isn’t targeting internationally more of a CIA thing anyway?
@@leonardusrakapradayan2253 at this point they’re both so corrupt they both gotta go
10:51 so that’s where it came from