$12 Hack Beats Expensive Down Jacket
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.พ. 2022
- A Down Jackets major weakness is water. Which is why companies have started treating down with Durable Water Repellent finish. But professionally treated down can be expensive. Which is why I want to see if this down jacket I treated at home with $12 waterproofing can keep me warm when wet?
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Cleaning and Waterproofing Tips:
- Keeping your down items clean is super important. Dirt, body oils, and even campfire smoke residue can cause your down jacket to wet out prematurely and lose loft due to the feathers being dirty as well.
- FOLLOW THE CARE LABEL on your down-filled items. This will help make sure you don’t mess up your jacket/sleeping bag etc. If it says to wash on warm and tumble dry low- do that!
- Check your pockets before cleaning! Don’t be the person who washes a tube of lip balm into your jacket.
- Use a front loading washing machine for down items. Top loaders with agitators are harsh on fragile down, and down also has a tendency to float, making top loaders a poor choice.
- Fully drying your down items is also super important. It won’t fluff back up unless fully dry. This may take many cycles.
- Store your down in a nice loose bag. NOT in the stuff sack.
- Never put down away wet.
- Nikwax products are and always have been PFC/PFAS-free so they are safe to use in your home.
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would it work with a puffer jacket with non-down / polyester filling?
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Have you considered attending a meeting of Masochists Anonymous? The first step is admitting you have a problem.
Thank you for being the gunnie pig
FYI If you ever want to clean your washing machine detergent dispenser again, just push the little lever and pull the entire thing out and clean it in the sink or bathtub. Way easier than trying to clean it in place.
pulling it out and putting it in the dishwasher works wonders if your lazy like me
😂
Who didn't know that ffs 😂
The hooman race is so smart ey
@@reasonsvoice8554 Well, for one, apparently the guy in the video
@@2old4allthis explains why the detergent draw looked minging 🤣
I thought this was common sense/knowledge
Common sense is distinctly lacking these days
I sprayed a $7 camp packable nylon/synthetic insulation hunting jacket from Walmart with Tent waterproof treatment.,.. That thing been awesome for years !!!!
😆 This is the way!
You just convinced me to clean and treat a couple of jackets we have in the closet. Great stuff. You just keep bringing it. I like that. ✌️
Thanks. I hope it works well for you.
Same here - I used the Nikwax stuff several years ago but just haven't tried it in a while. But I've got a ton of old jackets/vests/etc that could use this. MLO - Thanks for posting this content - well delivered and truly helpful!
Dude your bad ass for doing that test. Now I know I can treat my saddlebred jacket the same way.. Thanks for the awesome info
I have always done so. It's like old-school waxing of coats, bags and tarps but with modern chemistry. I try different products and even out of the box solutions sometimes depending on the needs.
The most important first step investment is to buy multiple undergarments of wool! Because of its properties it is lifesaving to have wool closest to the skin! It creates its own "micro climate". Also to learn how to treat&wash wool properly.
So all clothes and stuff on the outside are to help keep the inside "micro climate" as optimal as possible. But if wet, wool is _still_ insulating and breathing, which is the key thing.
Hats off to you doing these tests. Awesome to see someone actually put themselves through extremes to test products 👍
45 mins dont really test anything for the outdoors tho.
@@z0uLess true and also recommending a product so laden with chemicals is interesting to me.
Can you send one peice of this jacket
As sample peice as i am trekker and i would check it out to keep stock for others
@@AliseL22 Amazing how our culture has changed so much that the first thought is about the chemicals that you have been conditioned to hate. The paradox of a good guy pimping chemicals is interesting too you. Are you aware that chemicals...man made chemicals to be very precise...are responsible for you being able to move your fingers and strike the keys to make this comment. I assume you're not a chemist. What you are parroting is an opinion. One from a very biased and not necessarily well thought out theory of someone elses work.
Because I'm being weird - with regards to the bad chemicals (of course there are some bad ones)
In reality "we" have no clue how big the earth that these chemicals are ruining is. There is just no human comparison that anyone has experienced - even ALL the people that go to the space station - none have seen the round earth - I believe only 12 humans ever have and only a couple still alive.
If the earth were a beach ball - all of the worlds oceans at there deepest depths would be represented by about two tablespoons of oil smeared on the surface - our everything equates to a tiny film on the surface of a beach ball. In even your wildest imagination - what difference could a microscopic molecule of whatever is bad do to the big picture of that model.
Global warming, climate change, eco everything is and has always been at the public level nothing more than marketing. There a counting infinity of funds that surround the notion....as intended.
It can't even pass the first number one challenge to what is considered good scientific theory.
It must be elegant - its anything but.
Alise if you read this far - forgive me. I have adhd and sometimes can't let go of a bone. You have a lovely day and a better tomorrow.
Talking about the water on the outside of the jacket freezing, that reminds me. Back when I went to school, I went to a little two room country school, and every year we'd put up a skating rink out back. Now, if you know anything about skating rinks, you know that you either have to put a new layer of ice on the rink for every couple hours of use and every time it snows, or you have to use a Zamboni to remove a layer for every half hour of use. Zambonis are expensive, so we went with the former option. Putting a new layer of ice on is just a matter of stapling a 3 foot strip of burlap to a 2x4 and wetting it continuously with a garden hose as you drag it around the rink. Needless to say, being children, we got nearly as much water on ourselves as we did on the burlap. Our "saving grace", if you could call it that, was that temperatures were generally below 0F, so the little sprinkles would build up over time and create an ice layer over our clothing, especially our legs, rendering the material more waterproof than any treatment you could hope to buy. I'm sure each one of us would carry at least 2 lbs of ice back into the school building after resurfacing the rink. Ironically, the parts of our clothing with the most ice were generally the warmest. Ice is not only perfectly waterproof, but perfectly windproof as well.
Love the genuine real world test. I wonder how many out door retailers would do this? Good on you NickWax. Great test. 👏👏👏.
alot actually but they wouldn't advertise there tests unless they were positive because if it did poorly it would hurt sales
Great Video! I Thru hiked the AT in 2007. My down jacket kept me warm the entire trip. The test I'd like to see is 38-45 with light rain.
The extreme cold weather is generally very dry. Warmer rainy windy conditions are where the challenge comes from.
I had no problems with the down jacket on my 6-month long trip. Thank you very much for the video! : )
What a concept! I love that you challenge the value of expensive gear. I’ll be sure to treat my gear at home.
this world need a gentleman like you.
I actually just ordered some of this stuff a few weeks ago to treat my Costco Puffy. Figured it was worth a shot, and now you've definitely convinced me!
I know I commented on your previous video saying that standing in the rain would be awesome---and you did it! Awesome video, man! Just an awesome video!
Update?
Update?
Dose of Dirt: It’s not really enough to say that you just ordered some; you can’t leave it’s just hanging like that.
How effective was the treatment once you had it properly applied to your garments?
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This is great! You could treat your jacket 10x for the cost of the Big Agnes jacket. Additionally, you get to reuse something rather than consuming another product. Thanks for the info! Great video as usual!
That was a great test. It is pretty plain that for 75% of dudes/dudettes that we can treat our own down jackets and not shell $300 for a 'specially treated' one. Most of us will not be having to bet our life on one soaking wet down jacket keeping us from our demise.
I've never treated down items this but a couple years ago we broke the detergent tray of our clothes washer. I replaced it for around $20. If I had numerous items to treat, I'd buy a separate tray for my washer
I have used down for nearly fifty years, and I have never gotten it wet. I think the issue is condensation over many days or weeks. I think its maybe an issue for serious mountaineers. Nice to know the new stuff actually works, I thought it was all marketing. It's also nice to know you can add it to your old gear. Thanks.
This was an excellent video. Props to Nikwax for being cool about you making this video!
Good for you. Bringing quality content to your audience. You know you’re dedicated when you take cold water down your back.
I'm saving this video! Thank you, I'll definitely use your link to buy this.
Take care, and thank you for the videos. You're making a difference!
I've found most treatments are a bit hit n miss, the last one I used was Nikwax soft shell proof, two different results on two different brands of jacket, its worth a try but don't expect miracles 👍🇬🇧
Nikwax and other DWR treatments work well for a short time but fail very quickly with any pressure (backpack shoulder straps etc) or with any continued light abrasion from day to day wear.
Very useful video. It is more important to maintain the gear you have instead of continuously purchasing new gear and throwing older gear away.
This is amazing and I think it opens a lot of possibilities for other gear. Thanks a lot.
What an absolute legend, you couldn't catch me soaking my gear no matter what. Keep killing it!!
Thanks
Great presentation, thanks! NikWax is my go-to for washing and treating my down and gore-tex jackets. Hint - I wear my gore-tex shell jacket over my down jacket so it's best of both worlds - dry and warm.
I’m totally treating my sleeping bag and jackets. Thanks for this! I’ll use your links.
this was my thought too - going to do my sleeping bag! i live in a VERY wet climate, and the sleeping bag almost always gets somewhat damp throughout the night, especially in the shoulder seasons, or from condensation when snow camping.
Love these tests. Thanks for enduring these for us.
Amazing! Just what I looked for! Gotta say you've been getting me hooked of a lot of my gear :)
Thanks for this, you are bang on about NikWax, i used to work for a climbing supplier more than 30 yrs ago and when at a trade show, they did a demo of proofing a mountaineering sleeping bag in order for it to float on top of the water, it worked, what a demo ! 😉
I know I shouldn't show brand favoritism when customers ask me about care and reproofing, but Nikwax is the go to product from base and tech wash to down proof and tx direct to tent and gear solar proof.
Good job man! Very impressive. I’ve been a Nikwax fan for years. It’s awesome stuff.
Just watched your video, and we are purchasing the product tonight!!! Thank you for your videos
I know it's probably outside this channels ability and scope but I'd love to see side by side identical heated torsos with different coats on and viewed through an infrared camera. To me that would be the best jacket comparison.
Awesome video!! I’m glad to see it in a real test.
Thank you!
I’m buying some today.
LOL, you're a trooper. Thank you for the commitment and the videos.
That was a very impressive demo, I'm sold. 😎
Thanks
Oh wow. You really tried it. I commented on your other video , with the other jacket, that I wondered if you could do your own. I'm excited that you tried it...and that it seams to work. Thanks for being the guinea pig.
Thank you for making this fantastic video, now I have decided to get a Down Under quilt for my Dutch chameleon hammock and have no worries.
that's an insane performance. firmly putting down dwr treatment into the 'magic' bin in my head
Thanks. It's a good reminder to clean and down proof my old jackets. And I need to DWR my shells too. Ready for some snow camping!!
I have washed a down jacket and spray the outside with a nylon waterproof treatment. It works well also, does not treat the down but treats the nylon which helped keeps the down dry.
Dude, I’m from central Brazil. The coldest we get here is like 18Celsius, but I’m still here learning about how to wear properly for cold, no reason why, it’s just so entertaining and informative xD
Keep up the good work, these videos are great
Im from southern spain and moved to Austria this year, this is my first winter where temps can easily get to -10C and my spanish winter clothes dont qork for this winter.
So who know maybe at one point you will use this knowledge
There are passports, you can leave your country and go travel where its cold, bro xD
For those of my fellow Americans who don't know 18° Celsius is around 64° Fahrenheit.
Yeah, it is entertaining, I'm happy with my gear and don't see myself doing any of this but it's still interesting. I'm in Missouri.
Excellent video. Thanks for making this, and thanks for going into such detail, and being so thorough in your test.
Wow, that double dunk of the jacket in the creek was impressive!
thank you for doing this video. I treat my jackets but everyone has their own way. This helps me more to take care my investments and be smart about it.
cheers,
Time to clean my detergent tray. Thanks for the massive inspiration.
I had a can of that sneaker waterproofer. Never used it on my shoes, but I sprayed on all of my snowboarding apparel and it made a world of difference
Thanks a lot for spreading all this valuable information!
Thank you for this test. You seem to be very logical.
What a great demonstration! Thank you. 👍
I’m glad I came across this video. I’ve definitely been curious about Nikwax
I learned a lot in this video. I went for a run with my down jacket yesterday and got it pretty wet from slushy snow that started. Wondered if I might have ruined it, and now I see what I can do!
Love the growth on your channel. You got great content.
Thanks
Wow, this is amazing….thanks for figuring this out. I have sleeping bags and jackets in line to treat. Cool!
That really tested the product and proved it works. Not perfect but nothing is, so with the right expectations and proper care on the trail this is a game changer from my perspective. I never would have thought that a true soaking would be anything but a very dangerous event. Now you can bring the down as your go to for warmth and save a ton of money and weight.
Great video, I got introduced to Nikwax products back in the 80's when i was in the Alpine ski industry and it always worked and actually improved the performance of the first Gortex clothing that came out back then, we actually got to be test subjects when Sun Ice was one of the big names in Alpine clothing, Now i have a few Under Armour pieces of gear ,it is down filled and has worked amazingly well and not bulky, this video is a good reminder to go and buy some Nilwax products to wash/treat this jacket , like you say $12 is allot less than $600 for another jacket 👍
This is where the rubber meets the road! Well executed, plan to treat my Gore-Tex also.
I do this once per year. It works so well. 6 year jacket water proof as new.
Great video. I've also been using these products for years with great results.
Excellent experiment!
You sir.... are committed.
Thank you, thank you. I'm definitely going to try this.
Thank you very much for the video. I did see the other one and was a little flabbergasted that you could be warm in a wet down jacket.
I’ve gone out and bought reindeer - - top-of-the-line stuff and paid top dollar for it in anticipation of spending time in the mountains, only to be saturated to the skin and cold. This is a real eye-opener. There’s definitely a place for this in my kit bag.
We also believe in NkWax , have been treating our ski/snowboard gear and the horses blankets
Tha stuff is just Gold
thanks for thr info
I see your next soak test using a giant wooden ladle and stirring in that creek like a good witches brew. I wash my down minimum every year w/ Nikwax or Grangers. Definitely helps keep that gear in shape!
I've been waiting for you to release this video, Nikwax's product line is great and them willing to work WITH you is a sign of their INTEGRITY. You nailed the delivery and covered relevant points.
Keep growing!!
- Godpseed
How exactly is a company working with a TH-cam or to have them advertise their brand, a sign of their integrity? In what world do you live?
@@AlexanderMason1 Thanks so much for your comment.
I'm sold I'll be treating my old down jackets and I may buy a super cheap down from Amazon to try it too.
Thanks for this awesome video. I think I am going to treat my trusted down jacket.
Cool idea for a video and super well executed as usual. Great work!
Thanks
Awesome video. Thank you so much for such a valuable information. Outstanding experiment. God bless you.
You make such great videos. Thanks for this one.
Thanks for watching
Great content! Great information
Thanks for doing that!
I don't always sub after a single video; but, when I do, it's because the content was quick, entertaining, and informative.. Now I have to dig through the rest of your vids.
I’m glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for the sub. I hope you enjoy the rest
Excellent review!
I like your style. I’m in. Tell NikWax they just sold another set of bottles.
This is a very convincing advertisement. Nikwax made a smart play.
Very engaging and interesting topic and video! These are the truly unique YT videos that should blow up huge. Hope it takes off for ya! I'm def sharing this one out! Great job!
Thanks. And thanks for sharing
Great man. Great product. But more importantly...great man!
I've been using an array of nikwax products for a long time and have been extremely happy with the results. I have 20 year old gear that continues to perform like new. I wish that could stop my compulsion to buy new stuff but at least when I get that new stuff I know it will last a long time lol
I don’t think the new technical synthetics will last like your two decade old ones.
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Thanks for your review.
I bought a $40 decathalon synthetic down jacket and did this. It's amazing!!!
Synthetic down doenst have the same disadvantages as normal down. It doenst lose loft and doenst loose insulation power. If down gets wet it can loose all its insulation power.
So always good to get a dwr coating because moist can get you cold but synthetic holds its loft.
AWSOME AWESOME DATA POINTS!
Treat it at home and carry a few hotpocket type heater warmers to stuff in the interior pockets when you need extra warmth..
Thank you for this!
I saw Tayson over at Outdoor Vitals do a similar experiment with his Stormloft insulated jacket
Cool Video 👍
Thank U for the Info and the Links 👍
Great video as always!
Thanks
I kept waiting to see a zoom-out where he was standing under a sprinkler. That was some serious downpour he was in 😂. Great video. I’ve used Nikwax before, as they are the outdoor-lifestyle standard for helping lengthen the lives of all sorts of outdoor gear.
Interesting video I have a down gilet but avoid getting it wet with over jacket I know one thing never wear jeans I once wore a pair of jeans shorts and they stayed wet cold heavy and clammy all day on a hot day
Great video, as always!
Thanks
I've been using nikwax on my raincoats for years. I will have to try it on some of my other gear.
I was in the exact same boat but with my 20 yr old Down filled Macpac sleeping bag!
I also used Nikwax to ’Proof’ it and I’m pleased I did! Now my old Macpac is just as good as my latest Sea2Summit bag…
Down doesn't really degrade much with time so the main difference betweeen a 20 yo macpac and a modern bag is that a modern bag will probably have lighter nylon encapsulaion (down to 10d) and modern bags often use better quality fill (up to 950) wheras the old macpac bags probably had 650-750 fill down. In other words, modern bags are lighter for the same warmth. I have a 30 y.o. paddy pallin bag that still gets use in winter.
Great stuff! Love your videos
Thanks
Thank you for sharing this, very interesting
Quick update: I just used these products on an old North Face down jacket, and now have a new AND WATERPROOF jacket!!!
Many Thanks 🙂
Ps. I used a full bottle of the down proof, not the 150ml indicated on the bottle.
as long as you don't drink it 😅
I’d follow the instructions, I suspect the excess DWR simply washed off and it’s expensive stuff.
@OutdoorsIQ I agree. If anything I'd do multiple treatments on an old item not a single overdose.
I can't believe that you could still be warm after wearing that doused down jacket. NikWax must be pretty happy!
Good work! Thanks!
Great stuff, I need something like that for my dogs jackets as well.
Great video!
I have a suggestion. Could you include the temperatures in degrees Celsius as subtitles? This would be really helpful for us newschoolers using the metric system.
Thanks!!
A Great Education. Thank You!