How to Install & Setup FSESC Controller in Escoot or Ebike 🚀 Flipsky 75100 & X30 / Ti30 Example ⚡
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Index:
00:00 Hi
00:06 Different Vesc
01:22 You will need
03:48 Remove old Controllers
05:56 On Off switch / FailSafe
06:43 Motor Wiring
08:38 Throttle & Brake Wiring
09:49 Connect 2 controller by CAN
10:05 BT module
11:12 1st Try and VESC TOOL APP
11:54 Vesc app Auto Motors Setup
14:45 Vesc app Throttle & Brake Input Setup
16:11 How to fix Brake Siganl Lag
17:40 Power settings for Battery & Motors - บันเทิง
i just bought a 3shul CL1000. 30s. 126v. 500 battery amps. 1000 phase amps. i cant freakin wait. this is my first vesc controller. I'm excited. building bikes and scooters and motorcycles was getting boring. you just buy the parts and click em together like a puzzle. Now with VESC it put the mystery back in it which is fun. learning new things is fun. learning new sub hobbies within your hobbies is fun. this is gonna be a 63,000 watt e-dirtbike. its awesome to see h ow many people are into VESC and just how many controllers run it. Its actually way bigger than i thought it was. Its always cool to see the community around these hobbies. This vesc community is way bigger than i thought it was.
100% agree
Hi friend, I built a axial flux electric motor by miself I have a cheap china controller. Can you please help me configure the 3shul CL1000 30 s 126 v, 500 amp
Hello Pirate,just bought a Ti30 because of you,thanks a lot can't wait to see your next vids 🐱
I have had this controller for 11days and i can say im Happy
Thank you so much for your time and explaining so many details. Gold.
Your dog looks like they are having a good dream in the back!
This is way above my knowledge. 😂 Something I wish I could do!!!
Easy Man , really 🍻
Ez pz
Thanks very much!! At home now. Lol came from drones. Building ebike.. new sub 👊👊💪💪
I believe the wheel diameter settings is your tire size converted to MM so you can get semi accurate range setting from the app and speed. That’s what the esk8s gave to play with to get their handheld controllers to display speed accurately
for me i actualy measure it. for example a 200x50 wheels actual size is 190-195 new wheels.
The new 75200 84v just came out. Should be exciting
I just got these controllers working in my Yume D5 2 x 1200w motors. The Yume's don't use hall sensors and despite getting replacement yume controllers my motors always stuttered if you accelerated hard. Now they don't instead I have crazy acceleration, the wheels spin even when free-wheeling. Feels like so much more power than before! Love it! Thanks again for your videos!
hi Dom, do you also have good torque at lower speeds, or let's say by start?
@@minalobudeshte I had too much power at the low end causing the wheels to spin. So I added a throttle curve to take the edge off. Also changed max amps so the rear wheel had more power than the front as it was also spinning. So now it accelerates hard but better traction. I still have to be careful off-road on hills not to hit the throttle too hard or it will spin at low speeds. Once you get going it’s absolutely fine. It’s also really easy to go at slow speeds, lots of control on the throttle.
Tenga cuidado con la temperatura del motor
Hi my friend!!🙋
Waiting to see the difference on the road...🧐
The anti spark key is a very good idea!!!!👏👏🤩
un ssr con telecomando, meglio
@@matteochristianvenditti1452don't like any Vesc controller... At least till today out in the market...😘
Thanks for the video, another way to make the reading drop quickly is to add a pull-low resistor on the ADC1.
Decent idea thanks
ciao, cosa vuol dire?
great video I've been waiting for a long time I think I'm going to place an order soon for the sk3 72v but I have a question how to connect the headlights and turn signals?
finally, i found the mad scientist, I like cutting wires too.
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You are the best guys💪💪👍
And so hansome 🥹🤣🤣🤣🍻
@@PirateOnTH-cam 🍻
Could you tell me how to connect a pas sensor to this controller?
Cheers! What about display? Is it good? Make a video about plz 🙂
It's pretty easy to depin those connectors. You can just take a really small needle or something and bend the tab that holds it in down.
Yes sir, I am just lazy 🤣🤣😇
Nice video btw, just finished it. What is your dog's name? 🥰 I can't wait to try this modification on my Ti30. They sound so quiet. If you are worried about overheating the motors, you should look at putting a bit of ATF fluid inside the motor housing to help cool the coils. The hot atf fluid splashes on the aluminum cover and helps get rid the heat. I've heard you can push double the power output from the mod.
I have a question, if my motor does not have a hall, how can I connect the controller?
the same way , just skip hall sensor step from my video :)
My dog name is Foxy :) , she is legit czechoslovakian wolfdog from dog shelter :) , to get here I went literrally half of my country. Some looser tried to drown pupies in the river, he put them in to black bag & tried to throw it but someone noticed it and guy run away ... and there is my foxy story :) . I always saying that any fluid in that kind of motor is bad idea ,there is more cons than pros BUT I really appreciate your input 🍕🍻
Hello Pirate, the Ti 30 battery supports 80A with the standard bms, but if you change it for a better one it can reach 100A maximum :)
max safe is 80A , above it battery could be shorted so it can get fire or be damaged in short time :)
Cześć Piracie Właśnie jestem przed instalacją w m365 Pro 2 FSESC4.20 + TFT monitor + sparkless switch od Flipskiego + silnik 500W 48V a’la Monorim. Zamówiłem pakiet u scootermode,eu 13S 20.3Ah w podeście. Konfiguruję wstępnie wyświetlaczem i mam tu parametr kV silnika. Masz pomysł jaki powinien być ustawiony do poprawnego działania tego systemu? Z moich obliczeń wynika że kV mieści się w granicach 18-21 przy napięciu 48-52V i prędkości jazdy 40-50km/h
Great video! What value resister did you use on the brake wire?
You can use almost any tiny resistor which u can find
Hi Pirate. How would I link the front light and brake light to the ESC?
Is there a way to attach the screen and the Bluetooth module at the same time?
Hey. I was wondering if you can you connect a key switch to the flipsky on/off switch like the one you have just that it is not watercooled?
Very helpful video thanks! Do you have a part number or link to the display you show at 3:20?
This is not the only way to remove wires from neck you have these things called pins in each connector and they can all be removed from plastic housing and rehoused easily with the help of terminal removal tool or a simple pick type tool being jammed into the release slot. Saves you trouble and makes it look like things aren't going to suffer loss of current due to re connected cut wires.
non serve, va rimosso tutto...
I’m setting 2nd scooter with Your video. I’ve allways have problem with power cutting-off. On app it shows perfect values, but while driving scooter have no power and don’t drive at any hill. I guess there is a problem with torque or something. What I can do wrong, would you help me including delating error from VESC? Or maybe you have some trick to 2 engine (2000W) scooter to start it with minimum 1 engine with full power and torque.
How about those advanced motor and foc settings. Mine has low torque on low. revolutions middrive
do i need to have two bluetooth and two anti spark switches with the two flipsky 75100 controllers or maybe one can work for both upgrading my scooter and confused please help thank you Terry young
hi, does the application show the current and power of only one controller or does it sum the readings of two controllers and display it on the screen?
could you make a video about connecting this to a bafang system plz Flipsky 75100
@pirate, is the BT module for v4 or v6? Maybe the wiring is for v6? On Flipsky website the BT schematics shows connection to COMM instead of UART. But now I’m confused… 10:15
Thank you very much for for the wonderful tutorial. I have the same motor and I don't know what is the dimension and I couldn't find it in the description if you can give me the motor dimension I will be very thankful for you😊
hej, przy połączeniu dwóch sterowników trzeba manetkę podpiąć do obydwu czy wystarczy do jednego?
Do i have to add a resistor on the 2 wires from brake?
When choosing a motor, some people choose a bicycle hub type motor, which one is better? ? What type is suitable for 52v23A1000w?
I did the throttle setting like u did when I twist throttle the wheel go but when I let throttle go it still go until I position the throttle a certain way then the wheel stops need help!
FLIPSKY FT85BS V2.0 ESC works with it ! Thanks
Awesome 🍕🍻
@@PirateOnTH-cam non vesc means ?
it can be no legit VESC but work with vesc protocol and app
Did the maximum speed change after the system change? What speed can you get?
I would like to use the VESC tool on my PC to set it up. Is there a VESC tool for that? If so, where can I get it? Excuse me for being an amateur.
What version is the Bluetooth Module 2.4G Wireless Based upon the nrf51_vesc project
How do you connect your key or /and the key alarm
Those JST(like) connectors can easily be removed by gently pressing the latches to release the pins....
good video! One question, for a normal person who wants a skate to have fun for a while and also use it in the countryside apart from the city, do you recommend the ti30 or the es18 lite? Do you think that the es18 lite is enough for that or is it not enough and there are than try to go for the ti30? I think the ti30 is too much that's why I ask
es18 is good in my opinion
I am waiting for my es19, you should go with that. Though it doesn't comes with off road tires :(
new update: i kinda regret buying es19. shit 2 powerfull for a normal human being lol. actually having a blast, but scary as fuck
I'm at a loss, how many amps should I put in if the LIMIS maximum battery current is 52v23Ah1000w dual motors?
great video thank you, can PAS peddle assist be used with this controller?
Yes , but yoiu have to check on VESC forums how to DIY
you can use a 2nd throttle as electric brake control, so it's not just 50A but you can just regulate it with throttle
this is what I done, stock brake lever is just 0/1 , while something like m365 brake lever got hall sensor :)
@@PirateOnTH-cam by the way another tip, don't connect the adc together on throttle to multiple controllers, just use it over CAN only and then you can use traction control, which will just make sure one motor won't spin faster than the other, it will still allow you to shred some mud and slip like you do, but it will just help when your front wheel comes from the ground it doesn't spin up to retarded speed which will help to preserve the tire on the street
@@BH4x0r ciao, dov'è il controllo di trazione? grazie
@@matteochristianvenditti1452 VESC Tool -> App Cfg -> ADC -> Multiple Vescs' over CAN & Traction Control should be on
note that if both wheels are slipping at a similar speed the traction control will fail (traction control keeps both motors at around the same speed, if one slips/goes faster it'll slow that motor down to match the other motor)
Nice video! Didn't know about these controllers. Does this work with sensorless BLDC ? My Speedway Leger electric scooter doesn't have Hall sensors only the phase wires
yes it will work
Upgrade the vesc's cooling, i've seen pictures of the inside, cooling is lacking on it
Hello, great Video!! 👌👍👍👍
I have the same motor as you but only a 48V 1000W aluminum motor installed in the back and why after the motor test it only says: 28A for motor?! And at the bottom it says Sensorless! How come?? And I don't think my motor can only withstand 29A current! But it sits there like that after the engine has turned! And I have a Brainpower Controller with a current maximum of 38A and I have with this main controller A because there were controllers A + B and I only managed exactly 95kmh in the air with a Brainpower Controller A main controller with S866 display and GPS! And here the Motot test says for me: Motor 29A Current and sensorless below! How many ampere current can I set the motor to in the motor settings?
Did I see that right? You have the one throttle signal going to UART1 on both controllers? Same for the brake signal except to UART2 on both controllers? I thought those signals needed to go to only one of the 2 controllers and then CANBUS handled communicating them to the other controller? Will you add the LCD you presented in your last video? It's a Davega clone, but works the same.
esatto
Najważniejsze dla mnie pominoles jak podliczenia lamp i hamulca świateł stop
Hello. I set up my flipsky 75100 right now. Everything seams to be working so far. My only question is how to set up cruise control. Or not possible?
do you have any heating problems with it? I heard bad things on this controller. also that flipsky stole the design from someone.
Whan do you ride it and show us?
I'm riding ZERO10X52v1000w, will this make it faster?
Hello,Pirate! Is there some way to use stock key ignition switch with voltmeter with this 75100 set?
There is always a way, it depends how much time and $ are u willing to spend ;)
Where do I connect a 3-wire kickstand switch sensor to the controller? I don’t see a connector for it.
Thank you pirate also does the app show the battery voltage drop
Yes
Hey man, I dont' know if you still answer questions but does the 75200 esc have on/off? if not, do I also have to use a loop key?
Do you know of any loop keys that work in conjunction with an electronic lock?
Thanks!
Hey! I have the same question! Did you find out anything? Thanks!
Just a quick question did you have to remove wires from comm connectors from each controller then put them together
U have 2 x signal wire yellow is that throttle and brake
Dear Pirate, please be so kind to make a new video showing the fine-tuned settings of your VESC.
I have used the settings in this tutorial, and after half my ADC throttle, the wheels go crazy. And I still see 180 km/h on the Telemetry.
EDIT: The problem is I'm using a 5v throttle for 3.3v max for the VESC... but still, an updated video would be nice!
u set correct wheel diameter ^^'..? u set correct magnets? like 30? XD
Witam Pirate ! Jestem pełen podziwu tych sterowników widze je pierwszy raz na oczy 😮 lecz mam pytanie odnośnie tego czy mógłbym zamontować ten sterownik do roweru elektrycznego??? Ciągle szukam rozwiązań aby jak najbardziej wykorzystać moc bateri i kola przy dość małym sterowniku z dużą mocą i skoro jest taki malutki idealnie by mi pasował ❤ pozdrawiam filmy pełna klasa leci subik ❤
Ten mozesz uzyc nawet do pralki, jest klika filmow o vescu w Ebiku
@@PirateOnTH-cam a jak mają się temperatury widziałem twój film gdzie wjeżdżałem pod górę i odcinało je bp się gotowały czy uzyskam z niego coś na podobe sunruna?
I followed what you said and there's no brake indication, only for throttle and the motor wont respond to input
Pirate what resistor did you used ? (,I have nut hydraulic brakes and i need a resistor for them)
10 homs
What have you done for the trottle doesnt it only have 1 connector? How did you connect it to two VESCs
over can bus it sends data to 2nd esc.,...GOOGLE
Hello could please someone help me how to save the total odometer in vesc ? Because when i turn off the scooter vesc reset the odometer
Hey this is what I have been waiting for, I’ve been watching you since original m365 videos and tuning .. I have a question, is it possible to use default accelerator with flipsky 75100 ? And original display? I have Yume S10
Ofcourse not ;)
Default accelerator yes, with adc board from spinted. Display, no!
See my scooter in my TH-cam channel (flj t11 or yume s10, the same) to understand what you have to do, to use 50a (max 100a) *2 controllers and how it looks like...
Of course filsky 75100 are smaller in diameter not in ambers..
There is no easy and cheap way for many ambers controllers....
Sell yume s10 and buy a bigger scoot...
@@MrViiP3RZz01 so can this board connect to dual 75100 with alu. pcb or you have to get board from sprinted
@@frayfray6168 not sure what you mean here? With the aluminum heat sink?
Link to the display thing?
Hello, could you tell me if it is possible to put a dual-single switch so that it does not always go with both motors activated
ciao, integro domanda...
basta interrompere il Can, oppure l'alimentazione? Grazie
@@matteochristianvenditti1452 se maa come si fa?
Can I hit the road after setting up this video?
Do I have to set up a brake to adc2 or could I just setup throttle to adc1 and just use the hydraulic brakes?
Puedes usar cualquiera , dependiendo del cableado
Is there a way to balance the front and rear wheels? The rear runs fine, but the front is sluggish.
try to re auto motor tune when battery is fully charged
Max speed ruota libera 180km orari ??
Hello! I received my VESC and have a question: at COMM do you know which cable is the strong current plus cable for the 48V battery and which one the controller switches on please? For all controllers it is usually red 54.6V fully charged then blue on blue for the controller with display to turn on and the third then black on black. Because I want to connect a display again and the display connection is the COMM connection, right?? And my second question please: what is ADC1 and ADC2 on the COMM connection? For the COMM connection there has to be a high current cable, a plus + cable with e.g. My battery should then come out to 54.6V with a 48V battery so that I can turn on the display. Please can you tell me so help me briefly? Kind regards.
Hi, all your answers are in this Video, There is no way to use standard LCD scoot screen with VESC, you have to make decoder which is even for me super difficult.
Hello, can we choose an aggressive or soft start? If so, where is the setting?
Hi, try throttle curve in VESC app
Hi 👋 vesc work on sensorless motor? Or only sensored?
Both
Do you know what type of connectors they use for hall, com, uart etc?
Generally the connectors used on VESCs are JST 2.0
@@phylaxxx I was looking around and saw a cable listed as a 2mm JST so I ordered a few. Thanks, looks like I have the right ones coming 👍🏽
8:54 Can you clarify throttle red wire is really connected to 5V? Later in the input setup you show getting 3.3V from throttle
yes 5v, cuz 3.3v is max output from hall sensor
@@PirateOnTH-cam ok I was worried that maybe ADC is only 3.3V tolerant and 5V can fry it
normally 3.3v
@@PirateOnTH-cam non era molto chiaro e comprensibile...
А у меня наоборот 5v GND ADC1 на газ. тормоз 3.3 ADC2, только так заработало.
Is it possible to set up lights or brake lights
yes
wy is the Connection wire For Bluetooth black positiv and red negativ ?
Flipsky messedup wiring
Can a vesc be connected by direct cable to a cell phone for control and modification with vesctool, not by bluetooth?
I am not sure if app will support it
via cavo a pc
Hi my friend i have an answer for in your setup what kind of {resistor} you use for ADC 2 brake input , how many ( ohm )??
even 1ohm will be good
@@PirateOnTH-cam ciao, a cosa serve, tecnicamente? grazie
hi... I would like to mount vesc 75200 on my bike but I didn't understand how to connect the brakes because as you say in the video they only have two cables... does the solution you give work? connect one cable to 5v and the other cable to adc1? Thank you
brake signal is just voltage , so if you close circuit ( brake signal ) then Vesc will get into braking process. If you need smooth braking then go with hall sensor system for brake lever.
@@alessiogambi6881 by process of elimination :)
Can we add motor temp sensor in Ti30 motors?
This will be Uber Hard task
Is bluetooth the only way to program the controller? I'm seeing that it only works with Android and not Apple? I have no Android devices... Just ordered two of the same Flipsky controllers..
I have received the controllers and see it can be connected to the PC and that you can now Bluetooth to IOS and have downloaded the VESC app from the app store. Now I need to know if the existing Bluetooth module will connect to IOS? Everyplace that sells the module says it is only working on Android, and as the IOS app was reasonably recent, guessing they haven't updated the information. Sent an email to Flipsky to confirm this.
Hahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣 180kmh ?! Hahaha This is maximum 80kmh! I think. 😂 Good Video! 👍👍👍
Need to check motor control via cell phone app. Bypass throttle Can u send me link to video
Hey Pirate, is it not possible to keep the original Display/Throttle?
If not, why?
I was thinking the same. My original display/throttle has two separate cables coming from it, one for the display and one for the hall effect throttle.
The display would be GND, Battery voltage and mode select. The second cable is 5v (or 3v?), GND and Signal for the throttle. Other than mode select which would need another ADC input (already using the two available for throttle and brake), the display really just needs the Bat voltage and GND right? To turn the unit on and to read the voltage.
Just thinking though, how does it know the speed? It is probably the throttle percentage. Is the throttle connected in the unit? Need someone to do a proper detailed break down of converting Chinese scooters to these controllers as its confusing!
It measure rpm of the motor so magnetic field changes, and calculate by dividng this value by choosed wheel diameter. Percentage of throttle .... its so 1990 ;) . I do recommend to do some research, u can learn many magic things on the way 🍕🍻
@@PirateOnTH-cam There is 3 wires for the Hall effect throttle, and three wires for the display (on my display/throttle) the 3rd wire on the display goes to the mode select wire on old controller (from memory) so how does it also read the magnetic field changes?
Also, why do you put a resistor on the brake switch wire? And how did you wire the controller to activate the brake light?
Could you point me to a good place to research all this?
What about the lights ? how are you going to wire them ?, is it related to PPM port ?
Lights are on manual switch , so battery> switch >lights
@@PirateOnTH-cam I see yes but for the power are you connecting to ppm on controller on do you use a converter connected to battery ?
@@onehubanime2770 no idea what do mean
@@PirateOnTH-cam on these controllers, if I break and want my back lights to turn on, where do i wire it on the controller ? Same for horn where should it be wired, I have TI30.
@@onehubanime2770 ciao, devi fare un impianto a parte, i controller controllano "solo" i motori
It's 52v23Ah1000w, but how much should I set the maximum wattage and maximum brake wattage in the limits?
I would start with max 1000w power, brake max 400w, max regen 200w
@@PirateOnTH-cam ciao, perché tu hai impostato invece, -100W per il freno?
e max regen in W, dov'è? non lo trovo...
does this work for laotia ES 19?
It could work even with washing machine 😇
Hi pirate which is the powerfull motor can you recomend please my baterry is 20s and90ah 80v
Can i het 6000w continuos?
What do U mean ? Any motor which can handle that power ;) for 11" only custom with good cooling solution
@@PirateOnTH-cam I mean a sss motor 56123 is 9000w nominal and 15000 peak at 72v
How much juicie can i get fron this vesc
@@meganguerra-cd9gj constant maybe 2kw
@@PirateOnTH-cam thats a shame. They say 84v and 100amp continuos and 120amp peak
I finished the setting, but the speedometer of the PC does not work. I can't connect my phone to my PC. can you solve it?
Same here
@@eveningtweaker7765 Pls help us or a step by step.
Okey I installed the new Dual flipsky 75100 on my escooter, 20s22p , not easy at all but it work EDIT : I do not recommand it they have Burned ( i just riding a little hill and they get hot ).. it's maybe ok for 60v scooter but definetely not for 72v ... I'm in contact with flipsky they are sorry for me, but whatever, I lost 300e and I bought kelly controlller instead..
Made for 16s you run 20s..... not sorry for you. Dont put 10lb shit in 5lb bag then cry when it spills.
@@crfsikness ma non era fino a 75 V?
I did everything you said but my controller is green
Great video. Can you say why you changed the hall wires (color). I am having a hard time getting my 75100 to even test the motor much less run it. I am new to this and having a rough time wrapping my head around this.
He didn't they are the same
@@MrGiodude17 21:47 swapped 2 wires.
Hi. How many watt is your motor? because I have Janobike T85. I used only one motor to run, but I have problem with 75100. My motor is 2800 watt. But when I start to go at 20/25 Km/h the motor got in block and not run. if the wheel is free to run it work but when I use in the ground it make me problem. My battery is 32 Ah 60 V
You still have this Problem ?
@@Uwe342 Hi right now I have disassembled the scooter because battery problems. anyway I think I will change with the new version 75200. so yes I still not resolved that problem.
Hello, is it possible to set the maximum speed?
speed power, what ever u need
@@PirateOnTH-cam ciao, e come si fa?
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO TURN ON THE FRONT LIGHTS? I NEED AT LEAST 12V...
use DC step down coverter like this s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DnLnWDf and extra switch on/off for it