Hey guys with the 10.0.5 changes, there are couple changes to make from this video. For talents, since cheat death moves to where feint used to be, we have an extra point to put into cold blood. You just take a point off unbreakable stride (new talent in place where cheat death used to be) and put it into cold blood instead. For finisher rule, ignore 7 combo point rule and follow finisher priority whenever you are 6+ combo points. The only time you would use a builder at 6 combo point is if you are at ghostly strikes refresh window without broadside. For builders, ignore the 4 or less combo point rule for opportunity and follow the builder rule whenever you are 5 combo or lower. For ghostly strike rules, since pistol shot only generates 4 combo points, it is better to use before pistol shot now, instead of ambush. The rule with ambush/pistol shot regarding ghostly strikes basically flipped.
I wish you had videos on more classes. Your guide to outlaw helped me so much and I’m trying to find a good video for enhancement shaman but nobody breaks it down like you and goes slow and explains why they are doing everything they are doing. You are awesome! Please make more class videos!
Thank you and sorry for lack of class flexibility on guides yet. Once I settle down on rogue stuff a little more, I might start with more classes too! Thank you for the ideas and encouragements!!!
Nice build... thay really fdup ooutlaw..... he was so fun to play with and now its more all about prok and shtly debuff.... why thay didnt leave it as it is in Legion or BFA..... No idea becouse plaing wioth roll the bones was really cool. Now Outlaw is more like ferall but you dont think about bleed but buff. GJ blizz and F U blizz This build sim good but it is so trickyu dude.....
I completely feel you on that and I had the most fun playing outlaw in BFA personally, but at least it's nice to be near the top again after outlaw being bad for pretty much all of shadowlands lol
Ive been playing outlaw rogue for a few weeks now but one thing that has been confusing me is with roll the bones. What do you mean by keeping the roll or rerolling? Doesnt the duration of the buffs end before it even comes off cooldown? How would you even "reroll" im confused
Hey Vulganot, so one of the talents we take is Restless Blades and every time we use finisher, roll the bones cooldown gets reduced by 1 second per combo points used for a finisher, so you should be able to reroll about half way into the buff duration.
@@asianmamba81 with the ambush build i feel like im not using finishers enough to shorten the duration that much because ambush doesnt count as a finisher right? I might just need to try things out after watching this video thank you 🙏
@@Vulganot Yeah ambush is a combo generator that gives 3 combo per use and if it double strikes, it generates 7 combo (not sure why it's not 6), so if you can cast more ambush, you should be able to get to finishing point (6-7 combo points) more often to get more finishers out.
Nerf in 10.0.5 should be less than 2% nerf on single target and with the new change to cheat death tree, we can now get cold blood without sacrificing anything currently in the talent tree which should be about 0.5% dps increase so overall nerf should be about 1% or maybe less. Also, rotation priority should stay the same even with the change.
@@asianmamba81 finally a sensible rogue main that doesnt cry "rogue is dead". its gonna feel different for sure but taking cold blood without sacrificing anything is going to balance thinigs out for sure. cant wait
So the only time you could have ambush available with 6 stacks of opportunity is towards the end of shadow dance and in this case, if ambush single strikes, its flat out dps loss since pistol shot does more damage and even if it double strikes, you are losing extra opportunity stacks that most likely would generate extra ambush anyway so you don't even gain extra ambush cast and is dps loss.
Hey guys with the 10.0.5 changes, there are couple changes to make from this video. For talents, since cheat death moves to where feint used to be, we have an extra point to put into cold blood. You just take a point off unbreakable stride (new talent in place where cheat death used to be) and put it into cold blood instead.
For finisher rule, ignore 7 combo point rule and follow finisher priority whenever you are 6+ combo points. The only time you would use a builder at 6 combo point is if you are at ghostly strikes refresh window without broadside.
For builders, ignore the 4 or less combo point rule for opportunity and follow the builder rule whenever you are 5 combo or lower.
For ghostly strike rules, since pistol shot only generates 4 combo points, it is better to use before pistol shot now, instead of ambush. The rule with ambush/pistol shot regarding ghostly strikes basically flipped.
I wish you had videos on more classes. Your guide to outlaw helped me so much and I’m trying to find a good video for enhancement shaman but nobody breaks it down like you and goes slow and explains why they are doing everything they are doing. You are awesome! Please make more class videos!
Thank you and sorry for lack of class flexibility on guides yet. Once I settle down on rogue stuff a little more, I might start with more classes too! Thank you for the ideas and encouragements!!!
wiju!!!, finally!!! thank you very much man 🤙
Sorry for the long wait and hope it helped!!
Thank you, will def try this when I get home
Do the m+ guide too! Nice vid bro
Thank you! I am working on aoe part now and will do m+ guide for each dungeon soon after!!
Nice build... thay really fdup ooutlaw..... he was so fun to play with and now its more all about prok and shtly debuff.... why thay didnt leave it as it is in Legion or BFA..... No idea becouse plaing wioth roll the bones was really cool. Now Outlaw is more like ferall but you dont think about bleed but buff.
GJ blizz and F U blizz
This build sim good but it is so trickyu dude.....
I completely feel you on that and I had the most fun playing outlaw in BFA personally, but at least it's nice to be near the top again after outlaw being bad for pretty much all of shadowlands lol
I hate they made shadow dance outlaws best build.
Ive been playing outlaw rogue for a few weeks now but one thing that has been confusing me is with roll the bones. What do you mean by keeping the roll or rerolling? Doesnt the duration of the buffs end before it even comes off cooldown? How would you even "reroll" im confused
Hey Vulganot, so one of the talents we take is Restless Blades and every time we use finisher, roll the bones cooldown gets reduced by 1 second per combo points used for a finisher, so you should be able to reroll about half way into the buff duration.
@@asianmamba81 with the ambush build i feel like im not using finishers enough to shorten the duration that much because ambush doesnt count as a finisher right? I might just need to try things out after watching this video thank you 🙏
@@Vulganot Yeah ambush is a combo generator that gives 3 combo per use and if it double strikes, it generates 7 combo (not sure why it's not 6), so if you can cast more ambush, you should be able to get to finishing point (6-7 combo points) more often to get more finishers out.
what's your ilvl man? How are you hitting 80k dispatches?! I'm 387 and can only pull 30-40k dps in raids.
I'm 411 and I think combined with sophic devotion buff and 4 set at my ilvl, both ambush and dispatch can crit for 80k+
nice video my guy!
anyone got a ghostly strikes macro for a noob like me?
Rotation is gonna change drastically with 10.0.5-in fact outlaw may not be competitive anymore. The nerf could be close to a 4/5% dps loss.
Nerf in 10.0.5 should be less than 2% nerf on single target and with the new change to cheat death tree, we can now get cold blood without sacrificing anything currently in the talent tree which should be about 0.5% dps increase so overall nerf should be about 1% or maybe less. Also, rotation priority should stay the same even with the change.
@@asianmamba81 finally a sensible rogue main that doesnt cry "rogue is dead". its gonna feel different for sure but taking cold blood without sacrificing anything is going to balance thinigs out for sure. cant wait
Every good outlaw player said its irrelevant the nerf is not hard becouse u have anyway procs so outlaw is anyway good.
rotation is wrong. ambush > pistole shot even at 6 stacks of opportunity
So the only time you could have ambush available with 6 stacks of opportunity is towards the end of shadow dance and in this case, if ambush single strikes, its flat out dps loss since pistol shot does more damage and even if it double strikes, you are losing extra opportunity stacks that most likely would generate extra ambush anyway so you don't even gain extra ambush cast and is dps loss.
@@asianmamba81 oh actually I checked the rogue discord and you're right. my bad. I just learned something oh well
@@mugiwara7945 It's all good and thanks for the input! I'll also update if I find anything inaccurate or becomes outdated