something worth noting about the rot: the iterators knew about the rot before five pebbles got it. for one they have a name for it already when five pebbles gets it, but also nsh ends up giving it to the hunter since nsh rushed the task of genetically engineering the hunter. plenty of iterators have gotten it before pebbles, and for a variety of reasons, so the presence of the rot does not mean this dlc is connected to pebbles in any way. too many other things point toward it not being anywhere near pebbles and moon's facility imo. all the new regions, complete lack of any familiar regions in the screenshots (downpour still included plenty of teasers and screenshots that included new versions of base game regions, particularly saint's versions of them), and the fact almost all the environments in the new regions are wildly different from the vanilla ones. plus downpour let us explore pebbles's facility in a wide array of relevant time periods, i doubt the devs would make an entire new dlc just to explore the same location again in a new time period. would be a damn disappointing dlc then imo. "game all about worldbuilding gets two dlcs yet every important story in them only happens in one place".
Here's some info that I thought i'd share from the official discord - Andrew (DP dev) and Wrayk have confirmed that James, one of the og devs, will be working close on this DLC (making the lore and all that, hopefully music too!) - All the modded regions shown in the steam page "are but a small piece of a really sweet package" Implying that there will definitely be original content/regions and not just mods being integrated
the description dsaying " Will you hold on to all you once knew? Or will you dive into the unknown " Most likely is talking about how you can only ascend by letting go of violence, lust, companionship, gluttony, survival. And then reaching max karma in order to go to the void.
Isn't exactly what The Saint did? Heck he even performing same "silly rituals" as ancients did who prepared themselves for ascension. Ancient monks who starve themselves and only drank herbal tea. Saint starve himself, refusing to harm or eat anything except veggies and had very small stomach, which could indicate he indeed starve himself on regular basics.
To me, only ever glimpsed implies that we have seen it, but only very briefly. The first thing I think of about that is challenge 70, it's the only time we see sliver of straw the whole game, but other contenders could be the void sea, rubicon, or something along those lines. Another option could be fully functional lttm, as we only get a glimpse of her uncollapsed, and even then she's not fully functional, though I'm not sure that fits so much with the rest of the descriptions
Same with seven red suns and no signigant harassment (right? isnt nsh in hunter void sea ending?). You can see seven red suns with spearmaster if you complete their campaign and look at the save file.
My take on when the campaign would take place is either at the very end (there was a comment about how the watcher may be here through all campaigns and played last so we have as much knowledge as him) or, more probably, during Pebbles' collapse. The Steam page says he wants to "outlast" the ravages of the world, so it would be a great idea to have him be not at a specific point in the timeline, but over a large period where we get to watch as rot gets the better of Pebbles and he falls. There was that other comment about how the Void Sea could rise far in the future to be very present in the world and maybe the campaign could last that long. It'd fit right in the theme of watching and outlasting the world.
i love rain world so much and im so happy were getting more content after all these years, i just beat the saint campaign but i still gotta do gourmand. thank you for this detailed analysis! you've earned my sub as a fellow rain world fanatic lol
What is the timeline of this slugcat? Could it be around survivor? Are iterators still functioning? Is this slugcat going to find the last functioning iterator, thats why there is special fauna and flora as well as no iterator cans seen in the horizon. Maybe it is taking place far far away from moon and pebbsie.
I have a theory that the watcher is an echo of the artificer. Echoes are ancients that were never able to ascend due to their connection to the world. Artificer was never able to ascend due to her connection to vengeance against the scavs. This also makes sense because the Artificer campaign takes place second chronologically, which makes me think this watcher has been in every campaign, simply watching. Unable to do anything. I wonder if after the saint campaign something happens to the world that allows the watcher and the echoes to interact with the world once again. The rot could be causing this. The watcher is finally able to do something to save itself, but the world has been overrun with rot and it has spread to basically every location in the area. Obviously the undergrowth could be a sign of the fact that the whole world will be overgrown. So we’ll have an overgrown, rot filled world to finally be able to save ourself and ascend in the way that the artificer was incapable of doing during her time. Maybe her time as the watcher was a sort of punishment for having so much lust for vengeance. The other thing is the gold glow from the trailer. According to the big lore video by Das, the void thing in the abyss was going to spread in time and overtake the world. That could be another reason the watcher is able to interact with the world, maybe the void is catching up to her.
Canonically Artificer went to Scavenger Chieftan and killed him. Permanently locking her Karma to lvl 1 preventing to get to Void since even with the highest lvl scavenger corpse wouldn't be enough to max out karma to pass the the Guardians Complete or almost complete lack scavengers on 5 Pebbles in post-artificer campaigns reinforce that ending
the void sea was never going to “retake the world”, the geology and bedrock of the world are apart of the cycle itself, moon explains it to you in the filtration pearl! “If you leave a stone on the ground, and come back some time later, it's covered in dust. This happens everywhere, and over several lifetimes of creatures such as you, the ground slowly builds upwards. So why doesn't the ground collide with the sky? Because far down, under the very very old layers of the earth, the rock is being dissolved or removed. The entity which does this is known as the Void Sea.”
the unidenaflyable regions, are complety new regions being made i think, cuz i am a aspring region modder myself, and on the region documentation, there are some regions owned by "the watcher team' suggesting that they are making some new regions
Balagaga, who is quite well connected to the modding scene from what i can tell, did a video on this recently, where a lot of extra info is revealed about the modded regions: th-cam.com/video/9eU-F1Lt85Y/w-d-xo.html
ah yes, a 20 minute video analysing a 2 minute video, love to see it jokes aside, I really enjoyed this deep look at the trailer and everything else we know about this dlc
something tells me the watcher was there all along, through every journey. It probably has the best idea of rain world and is meant to be played last as that's when the player would likely have all the knowledge this slugcat has
I get a similar impression! I have a feeling it’s just been lurking in the shadows all this time. That comes with a whole heal of questions, though, like how they managed to survive all that time (do slugcats die of old age?) or how Saint’s campaign fits into things.
It would be wild if Video Cult pulled a Don Hertz. 😯 After all, ascension is a BIG driving force in Rain World. If you want to break the cycle. What if The Watcher doesn't ever want to ascend? So it's living like an echo, refusing to ascend/having no desire to leave. Don Hertz explores the quest and consequence of immortality With: It's Such a Beautiful Day. World of Tomorrow. Don Hertz Simpsons Couch Gag. So you have achieved eternal life. Now what? A good video analysis over Don's themes is: The best Simpsons intro is about losing everything you love. 🤔 Thinking about it, if Night-cat is lonely. No other beings may want to stay unascended with it forever. The only one? (I have some life experience in a other way, that makes my theoretical nightcat's plight relatable to me personally) If it lost because it was separated from Gourmand's tribe? Or separated from the new slugcats it formed relationships with, once Gourmand and the rest of the tribe later on ascended or 'died?' (Just like Bill from "It's such a beautiful day", He lives on, thousands and millions of years into the future, learning everything there is to know, 👉seeing 👈everything there is to see.) Is it afraid of permanently dying/the unknown? Not to mention the importance of memory, as the Watcher. It must, value it's memories highly. Everything it learned, observed, cherished is in it's memories. *Living forever without memories, what would even be the point?* Why would it want to ascend? Seeing its own kind enter the void sea with desires to bring themselves to an end/stop the cycle, never to be seen again. (Also reminds me of Bojack Horseman and the Void Door, watching people enter. In various states of sadness, desperation, fear, acceptance, guilt, etc...) Just my thoughts/theory. 😺
@@MooseyCat I think it might be the case that slugcats don't die of old age, and neither does anything else, it just seems more consistent with the cycles and ascension and all that. I think that if things could die of old age, nobody would be nearly so concerned with ascension
The “warped world” and “floor cracking” makes it seem like this takes place far into the future, when the void has finally eaten its way up the world to a point where it’s actually affecting stuff
*SPOILERS FOR SAINT and vague lore stuffs* but i think it has something to do with the great undoing and erased history consumed civilization stuff one of the echoes talks about
My theory is that the watcher doesn't take place anywhere near Moon and Pebbles, because these regions wouldn't really fit into Pebbles/Moon facility, and the fact that there is rot doesn't really mean much, and, although never explicitly said, in one of spearmaster transmissions, some iterators were talking about how Pebbles got the rot, and they seemed quite familiar with it. Also, when Moon analyzes spearmaster, we can see a DLL/MLL/BLL symbol in one of the projections, meaning the rot is already in iterators database. Another reason why i think it won't be near moon and pebbles is because in the pink region, the room is above clouds, but we don't see other iterators and the huge transmission spires, meaning that the region is really far away from iterators and the spires, which wouldn't make sense if it was near moon and pebbles... Even in saint we can see collapsed cans and crooked transmission spires!
@@IdkTbhLol just because they are modded does not mean it's near Moon or Pebbles... also, modded regions are a only a small part of a really sweet package, as said by one of the devs working on watcher
I have a feeling the watcher is meant to act as a witness to all events through history. Maybe that's why we get so many different looking areas. It sees the world through multiple points in time and it could be the first campaign that is divided up into multiple parts following the same character. With downpour, we got 5 slugcats with their own 5-10 hour campaigns, which is a lot of content. So i have a feeling that if this dlc ends up being the same length as downpour, it could be something like three campaigns all following the same character, but thats just speculation.
Missed this video till now. There's a good chance most people here already know the following info, but thought I'd clarify some things. The opening animation is Aether Ridge. The rot is from the Cold Storage subregion, where the ancients experimented on rot with test tubes, but after they all ascended the rot broke out and has grown everywhere. There's also a gate in the heart of the rot in Cold Storage leading to a mysterious region called 'Lumen Station.' Kaeporo keeps all info about this region extremely cryptic, but it's likely planned to have lots of rot, and I fully expect to see it in Watcher. Okay, now to say all the regions. 1st is Badlands 2, as other people have pointed out. Fishnoid wanted to remake this region a while before they joined the Watcher team, so with the new sand shader developed by Slime_Cubed, they thought Watcher would be a great opportunity to do so. 2nd is the Spearmaster variation of Stormy Coast. This could mean Watcher takes place at or prior to Spearmaster's place in the timeline, or that they'll be putting these regions in vastly different contexts. 3rd is Coral Caves. Not much to say, except this one makes sense since it connects Stormy Coast and Aether Ridge. 4th is Aether Ridge, specifically 'The Surface' subregion. This room didn't exist in the 1.5 mod since the sand texture didn't exist, and Kaeporo has heavily implied Aether Ridge will be much bigger and in a vastly different form so I suspect each subregion will be broken up into its own region. 5th is not The Mast, but rather a new region by Fishnoid inspired by a room they posted in the modding discord on new year's eve, 2022. The Mast dev snoodle has said they are not part of The Watcher team, so it's unlikely The Mast will make it, unless they're trying to keep some things a secret. 6th is Aether Ridge again, also not a room seen in the 1.5 version. Interestingly, this one is from the 'Shattered Terrace' subregion that leads to a gate to a region called Gilded Sanctuary. That region is a region jam made by a dozen different people that'll release really shortly, but it is not going to be included in The Watcher, so I wonder what other region Shattered Terrace could lead to... 7th is a new region likely by Wrayk, as they posted a very similar room on discord exactly 1 year ago as of today. It is inspired by the 'Old Drainage' region by FishSwallower. there's one more confirmed Watcher dev called 'Cappin' who made Metropolis and Bitter Aerie. I wonder what they're working on for Watcher?
You say that you think The Watcher will add less content than Downpour, but I think that is a matter of interpretation. In terms of new campaigns, surely Downpour added more content than The Watcher will. But if this is also the case for the addition of totally new creatures... We'll see.
That’s a totally valid way of looking at it! For me, when I think of the fact that Downpour added five totally new slugcats, each with their own fully unique story content and essentially their own full maps (not all entirely new content but redesigning almost the entire map for each campaign is still a lot), and then the new creatures and creature variants on top of that… it’s a lot of new content. There was also Jolly Co-op, Expedition mode, and so on. I think the Watcher will still have a lot of new content to explore, but I don’t personally see it quite reaching the same amount of content as Downpour. Maybe something like 60% as big at a stretch- it’s either that, or there’s a LOT we haven’t even heard about yet (which I’m not sure about.)
I'm hoping this DLC takes place in a new region of the world. I feel like we're really done with Moon and 5P's story and their region after Downpour. Packing even more stuff into it would make it feel too dense. I want to see something completely new. Maybe this could be a DLC about Sliver of Straw (or someone else, maybe even a completely new iterator) and her region, maybe it could take place entirely in the void sea, like Rubicon, maybe it's a glimpse into what happens after ascension, or maybe it could explore some completely new. There are tons of interesting ideas that I'd love to see this DLC to explore. When it comes to the timeframe where it could take place, considering the slight emphasis on void elements and the line about "world crumbling beneath your feet", I feel like maybe it takes place after Saint, when the current world is about to be swallowed by the void sea completely? It could definitely take place somewhere else in the timeline though, it's very open to interpretation.
Here are my thoughts on all the images: 12:36 - likely Badlands 13:46 - confirmed Stormy Coast 14:50 - confirmed Coral Caves 15:16 - confirmed Aether Ridge 16:25 - likely The Mast 17:23 - likely Aether Ridge 18:01 - closest match I can find is Sizzling Sewers, though it appears to have been majorly rehauled
IIRC someone mentioned that the 'badlands' screenshot is from a region currently called badmands 2? (IIRC it was made by the same guy that made badlands 1)
I remember in one of the Dev streams that they were talking the cut Watcher campaign. Originally the Scavengers were an integral part of it, with you even communicating with one with the mark to fulfil some sort of goal (like the Scav Chief we see in Arti's campaign). Since we see a Scav in this trailer something tells me that they might expand upon this cut content. I also know that the devs will be focusing on getting new creatures implemented into the game, I'm hoping that they will look to some of the creatures that were cut from the original game (Mimic beetles, bubble barnacles, maybe even lizard eggs?)
A lot of these were cut for a reason, but I feel like maybe with some slight reworks they could absolutely fit in with a completely new area. Also, if nightcat does have cloaking abilities, I feel like you could work mimic beetles in with that. Downpour also added some previously removed content as well, like the slugpups, so it's absolutely possible, probable even, that they would do the same with the watcher.
Two things: A. I don't think the Watcher is an echo or anything, since it would be very redundant territory to have two slugcat echos. B. I don't think they will release it for consoles at the same time as PC. Console games are much more difficult to update than PC, so PC is used to find and patch bugs quickly before they release a more stable version to console.
There was this one analysis/theory on tumblr about the Qualia of rain world, and I really think it’s spot on for this expansion. It theorized that when creatures ascended they would become their own void worms and create a world based on their memories and such - I think that, as Nightcat, we could be exploring those worlds. Mainly Five Pebbles, but I think with influence from other slugcats/iterators we know of.
when i tell you that i think the gimmick of the watcher is going to be a sort of timetraveling i am NOT tripping. it checks out with its name and it implies connection with the echos, but not being one itself. it could make sense with the drastically different regions that appear to be not releted at all. amd maybe i am tripping but it sounds like a fitting theme, and its also cool so
I know this is a weird, unlikely and probably impossible idea but what if the watcher starts shortly after the gourmand’s campaign and after every amount of cycles, he goes forward in the timeline, the world changing with him. Since this is a campaign with only 1 new slugcat compared to the 5 from downpour, the idea of something ambitious like that isn’t completely off the table.
I believe that the watcher is gonna start as if you are playing an Echo then it's going to evolve into a "slugcat" itself, I imagine that the start of the campaign is going to be the watcher observing every other slugcat's journey and ascending, each time we ascend we are going to go more into the future and future campaigns, once we ascend when the world is at the state of the saint we are going to finally start the campaign itself and we are going to see the journey of an Echo in the form of a slugcat, finally getting rid of it's own vices and reaching ascension after the entire world is gone and all the iterators are dead.
Perhaps the Watcher will play similarly to safari mode, however instead of directly controlling the wildlife, the player can only influence the wildlife in order to progress. Maybe "predator and pray, refined" is supposed to hint that we won't be either predator or pray, instead *watching* the new ecosystem, playing into the Echo angle
15:15 sorry I’m commenting a lot but I’m obsessed with this DLC. Apparently, this region is aether ridge, a old region from before downpour that was never ported over to the steam workshop
@@discoparrot8342It's snow, ugly but clearly snow. We can see here the same snowflakes as in Saint campaign, so I'm betting that these are just ugly snowdrifts that, according to the developers in discord, have not been completed. And if I didn't miss something, the developers didn't say what exactly what it is, there is no apparently what it is.
@@iosis9324 It is salt. Aether Ridge (the region it's from) is a desalination rig, filled with deadly brine pits, salt floating through the air, and coating just about every single surface. It's also a very warm region, besides the Tundra Fault subsubregion and parts of Cold Storage (it is supposed to store cold things, not be cold itself.)
@@bro748 After researching this region, I will say no. There are locations with salt, but it doesn't look like that, and there's only one water location that's salty, so it is snow. And I didn't find a place in this region where the screenshot of The Watcher was taken, so In your place I wouldn't say so sure that this is exactly this location.
my theory is that The Watcher IS an echo of Survior but also Nightcat, explaining why most of the text referencing Watcher being Nightcat saying 'they have not been forgotten' and also they can camoflage as a metaphor for being forgotten, and they cannot fully disappear
1 thing that i thought about this dlc is that it will take place in a completly different map than the base game one at least the steam description makes me think that so maybe the watcher wont meat five pebbles or moon and maybe he will meet other iterators like seven red suns and maybe if you beat the watcher campaign you get to bring old slugcats to this new map and give them new endings maybe hunter will be able to beat the game without abandoning his slugpups
rw devs had the worldbuilding and lore so fleshed out, real nice to see them press on with developing it and i thought downpour was the end of the road
The void and Rot imagery makes me think that this takes place before the Spearmaster. If the Saint is the resolution of the story, perhaps the Watcher is a chance to see the instigation. I hope we don’t see the ancients, but I’d like to see a time when Moon and Pepples were sort of on friendly terms. Perhaps The Watcher was the reason for the Rot. Maybe they walked into something important, or tried to eat something, or was part of the very experiment that created the rot in the first place. That would explain the Rot transition, and the horror-movie treatment the camera gives.
Wild theory here: What if this campaign takes time after the saint campaign, the void is already consuming the surface, and causing instability in the world
Ehh having lore between DLCs would be janky for the (very few) people who'd only buy Watcher. Usually lore in games with DLCs works like this: Core game is the base of the lore, and the DLCs add new things, separately.
@@RainWorldFan142 Fair but I think a DLC should be targeted at people who know at least what happened before it, and I think videocult wouldn't discard some dope ideas just because some few people wouldn't get it, but I still understand your point
I know its probably not what i think its gonna be but what if its a entire new iterater can? I know only tiny bits of info, and i dont even know where it is in the timeline, but i have a theory that maybe this slugcat will take place atleast slightly in another iteraters can. I know that theres new regions being added, thats what im basing my theory off.
I think that in the 4th screenshot for the trailer, it could be from Daszombes' Deadlands region concept thing. More specifically, the Salt Flats sub region. But this is just my theory :> Link to the Deadlands Region concept: th-cam.com/video/bTqwRCpYLoM/w-d-xo.html
Personally I really hoped for some 3rd iterator to go and explore. Seven red suns or maybe No significant harassment Do you think there is chance we might get one? Since they have mentioning exploring outside of 5P, Moon facility
15:26 one discord sever I'm in turned the tiny dust reference moon made into a bit of an inside joke, and no lie that's actually why I think this is important. Moon describes dust as appearing literally from thin air in order to perfectly counteract the void eating the land from the bottom up There is a void themed slugcat... and an excess buildup of dust...
I honestly don't think it takes place in Five Pebbles' facility grounds at all, or at least it primarily doesn't. I reckon it'll take place mostly, if not entirely, in a different iterators facility grounds, after all, there's only so many regions you can add to Pebbles' grounds before it winds up seeming cramped
Great analysis dawg, I feel like you have a lot of potential in the video essay space. Would love to see more videos about pretty much anything if you present it how you did just now
Hope it ends with the watcher somehow clearing the rot, even if it costs his own life so all the old whacky shit is finally over, all the horrible garbage of the ancients and the superstructures now fully behind and the world can heal. Maybe the watchers left behind are the guides and they want to finally help the world be rid of all this stuff, then getting enough karma accidently to ascend themselves?
I've only experienced Rain World through lore videos (And Memes) But one theory I've thought up is this. Considering how Saint... Uh... "Reacted" to the void sea when they tried to ascend using it at the end of their campaign. Could it be possible that The Watcher, Being a Scug equivalent to the Echos, Is Saint post-failed Ascension? All the Iterators have been "Ascended" by Saint, And with them gone the Rain they caused is gone too. And after the long winter, The skies have finally cleared, Allowing a new world to blossom. A world without the deadly storms, A world that the Echoed Saint now finds themselves in, As a wanderer, A traveller. Dare I say? A watcher?
Amazing video! great job, keep it up :) I imagine the Watcher's time could span along the entire rain world timeline, and earlier, and later. The campaign might include passing of great amounts of time. Perhaps the "silent camouflage" could be the Watcher passing, or reversing time. Crack theory: ROT bossfight !!! (or maybe, the Watcher is a personification of the Rot and the world's decay...?) also, the Watcher could be another form of Saint - a timeless Echo, watching over the world. The unusual color palette of screenshot could the Watcher mid-use of their time. ability The two different badlands-like screenshots could suggest that the Watcher sees one region in different periods of time, no? Thanks for theorizing! Lovely insight and voice, have a nice day!
Whats funny is on the rain world subreddit, I posted an idea for a slug cat that could turn invisible, and while I don't think thats what this character does, someone commented on my post telling me I called it when the announcement for the DLC dropped, which was funny.
Considering downpour, with its emphasis on new slugcats, added a joke slugcat, im wondering if this dlc with an emphasis on exploration and new regions will have some kind of joke region. are they gonna make stupis dupis canon
I’m kinda thinking that the question about holding on or diving makes me wonder if we’re going into a new world via the void fluid?? Like am I just tripping I got a lot more on the idea but I’m to lazy to type
I am so excited for this dlc to come but I wouldn’t be TOO excited cuz apparently it over 4 years! For downpour dlc to release, tho it was announced 2 years ago but had a spearmaster teaser 4 years ago
it says post saint. and saint is probably a couple million years after survivor so it living at the same time as gourmand is VERY unlikely. although it is weird that there is no snow and rot is still there. i however think that this is after the ice age. but still it wouldn't explain the rot. it however would explain the devs saying they were mostly making new creatures
Commenting this at the beginning of the video- I think that it’s takes place in the future immediately after seeing the rot because it means that it has progressed on infecting 5P. Definitely takes place before saint though!
i heard that most/all the screenshots on steam are from modded regions because those are the ones that are the most finished, but there will be brand new regions. if it was just modded regions, people who've played a lot of mods would be disappointed
I don't know much about the rot but it probably is an organism that existed already a long time ago so it might be possible that we will be in the past where we will finally see the creator of the iterators.
I have a theory about some of the new creatures. Remember one of the pearls mentioning "purposed organisms" of which we - the slugcats and probably most creatures you see - are descendants? I one there are tube like things mentioned solely meant as matter processor. Something goes in one side, and comes out the other side as something useful or safely disposable. "Burrow and hide" combined with the sandy grounds of one of the new regions; I think one of the new creatures would be a kind of worm that burrows through the ground to ambush you. I think The Watcher's ability to cloak/camouflage may have something to do with their seemingly deeper connection to the void sea. At least the way they're presented in the character art would suggest it (with the golden and rippling effects). It's described that void liquid is very difficult to use, as it's full of debris which is hard to filter out of, and slowly dissolves any material it touches. If we assume this deep connection is correct then perhaps through a kind of similar effect it can blend in with the environment. Or it could also be a more natural based camouflage and that this connection suggests being able to interact with echoes?
A theory that i have is that the watcher has been always there, they somewhat turned into some kind of phisichal echo or something a long ago, and now theyre doomed to live for the rest of the ethernity. They found and lived in a community (which explains gourmand endings) and when everyone died/ascended/left, they continued their journey. The time passes and sees how the rot and nature covers the places they saw (can explain the title of the trailer). They explore more and find many new places outside pebbles grounds. Basically an inmortal slugcat in safari mode with full experience guaranteed with some power inside that observes how everything evolves as the planet cools down, *or maybie it gets warmer again?* keep in mind that theres a desert, which means that rain has been gone for a very long time and coral caves seem to have a visible sky (im not familliar with the mod and im actually not sure if the blue is the sky or just some cool effect under a cave). Theres also a snowy biome, which is kinda confusing because how would you add a seemingly hot desert and a tundra in the same map? Maybie time travelling? Maybie the map is HUGE? Maybie it has something to do with the Watcher's theoretically endless life?
I don't know a lot of the game lore, but the watcher seems to have ties to echos (as stated in the video). Echos are supposedly created by trying to ascend without ridding yourself of things like greed, arrogance, etc (as stated in the video). Since you can't reach max karma as Artificer, the karma counter flashes red while swimming into the void sea, and the void worms don't help you. I always wandered what happened to them...
omg ?? i thought you'd have so much more recognition! this video is sososo well made and pointed out a lot of things i didn't even notice after analyzing the trailer/steam page myself :00 will definitely be checking out the series w/ your friend ! ^_^
i think this dlc will have a lot more content than we think. a lot of the time put into downpour was overhauling preexisting systems they had (like the lighting, as they talk about in some of the in game dev logs) so stuff they work on here would hopefully be more streamlined? idk
A neat little detail I don’t think you mentioned is that it looks like the cover art is inside of a Memory Crypt. The boxes have almost identical patterns and there looks to be an underhang in the sky.
15:14 is very likely aether ridge, color palette matches and coral caves connects directly to it. 17:26 is likely shattered terrance, a WIP mod shown a few times in the discord by the same modder as aether ridge.
am i the only one who kind of hopes there isnt a gimmick? or at least it's not something major, like hunter's back spear. The downpour scugs' gimmicks are really overpowered and i feel like this is a chance to...not do that again
I just hope it's a much needed return to the "dumb rat in NYC" less grandiose essence of the game, given that the actual lore dev (James) is the one writing it instead of fanfic from a mod
I don't really agree with the 'fanfic' take on downpour, as the 'massiveness' is somewhat exclusive to riv and spear, with saint being more like a perspective for us to see the new state of the world. Gorm and Arti just hone in on one gimmick, but it works in their favour to do what they need to, gourmand being a reintroduction to veterans, sprinkling in new mechanics to make you feel new to rw again, and arti exists to make you feel prepared for the hard parts of riv spear and saint. Only Rivulet and Spearmaster feel even slightly like facilitators of fanfiction, saint is much more natural and all of their gimmicks exist to further their spot in the plot and how you view their campaigns. @@milksonghorlet
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10:52 a rain world dev actually said that they are trying to make entirely new creatures, and not new variants, unlike they did in downpour
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Creatures are my main appeal i want more creatures!
Why am i commenting 3 months after the release of this trailer?
@@astick5249 Idk.. Why am I watching this 3 months after the release of the trailer?
TH-cam recomendation moment@@weepingwillow1526
all i can think about is how good thats going to be for the creature modders :D
something worth noting about the rot: the iterators knew about the rot before five pebbles got it. for one they have a name for it already when five pebbles gets it, but also nsh ends up giving it to the hunter since nsh rushed the task of genetically engineering the hunter. plenty of iterators have gotten it before pebbles, and for a variety of reasons, so the presence of the rot does not mean this dlc is connected to pebbles in any way.
too many other things point toward it not being anywhere near pebbles and moon's facility imo. all the new regions, complete lack of any familiar regions in the screenshots (downpour still included plenty of teasers and screenshots that included new versions of base game regions, particularly saint's versions of them), and the fact almost all the environments in the new regions are wildly different from the vanilla ones.
plus downpour let us explore pebbles's facility in a wide array of relevant time periods, i doubt the devs would make an entire new dlc just to explore the same location again in a new time period. would be a damn disappointing dlc then imo. "game all about worldbuilding gets two dlcs yet every important story in them only happens in one place".
FINALLY A DETAILED ANALYSIS THAT ISN'T JUST "Um. So basically Nightcat real and we're getting new regions."
NIGHTCAT REAL
REAL SNOW
REAL SAND!!!
DEADLANDS REAL
WOAH
Here's some info that I thought i'd share from the official discord
- Andrew (DP dev) and Wrayk have confirmed that James, one of the og devs, will be working close on this DLC (making the lore and all that, hopefully music too!)
- All the modded regions shown in the steam page "are but a small piece of a really sweet package" Implying that there will definitely be original content/regions and not just mods being integrated
13:40 fishnoid said that this is actually a reimagining of badlands that he is calling badlands 2 for now
Badlands 2: The Lost Sequel
Badlands 2: Electric Boogaloo
the description dsaying " Will you hold on to all you once knew? Or will you dive into the unknown " Most likely is talking about how you can only ascend by letting go of violence, lust, companionship, gluttony, survival. And then reaching max karma in order to go to the void.
Isn't exactly what The Saint did? Heck he even performing same "silly rituals" as ancients did who prepared themselves for ascension. Ancient monks who starve themselves and only drank herbal tea. Saint starve himself, refusing to harm or eat anything except veggies and had very small stomach, which could indicate he indeed starve himself on regular basics.
To me, only ever glimpsed implies that we have seen it, but only very briefly. The first thing I think of about that is challenge 70, it's the only time we see sliver of straw the whole game, but other contenders could be the void sea, rubicon, or something along those lines. Another option could be fully functional lttm, as we only get a glimpse of her uncollapsed, and even then she's not fully functional, though I'm not sure that fits so much with the rest of the descriptions
Same with seven red suns and no signigant harassment (right? isnt nsh in hunter void sea ending?). You can see seven red suns with spearmaster if you complete their campaign and look at the save file.
Awesome! Thank you for covering it and I can’t wait for us to get more information 😊
My take on when the campaign would take place is either at the very end (there was a comment about how the watcher may be here through all campaigns and played last so we have as much knowledge as him) or, more probably, during Pebbles' collapse. The Steam page says he wants to "outlast" the ravages of the world, so it would be a great idea to have him be not at a specific point in the timeline, but over a large period where we get to watch as rot gets the better of Pebbles and he falls. There was that other comment about how the Void Sea could rise far in the future to be very present in the world and maybe the campaign could last that long. It'd fit right in the theme of watching and outlasting the world.
i love rain world so much and im so happy were getting more content after all these years, i just beat the saint campaign but i still gotta do gourmand. thank you for this detailed analysis! you've earned my sub as a fellow rain world fanatic lol
What is the timeline of this slugcat? Could it be around survivor? Are iterators still functioning?
Is this slugcat going to find the last functioning iterator, thats why there is special fauna and flora as well as no iterator cans seen in the horizon. Maybe it is taking place far far away from moon and pebbsie.
I have a theory that the watcher is an echo of the artificer. Echoes are ancients that were never able to ascend due to their connection to the world. Artificer was never able to ascend due to her connection to vengeance against the scavs. This also makes sense because the Artificer campaign takes place second chronologically, which makes me think this watcher has been in every campaign, simply watching. Unable to do anything. I wonder if after the saint campaign something happens to the world that allows the watcher and the echoes to interact with the world once again. The rot could be causing this. The watcher is finally able to do something to save itself, but the world has been overrun with rot and it has spread to basically every location in the area. Obviously the undergrowth could be a sign of the fact that the whole world will be overgrown. So we’ll have an overgrown, rot filled world to finally be able to save ourself and ascend in the way that the artificer was incapable of doing during her time. Maybe her time as the watcher was a sort of punishment for having so much lust for vengeance.
The other thing is the gold glow from the trailer. According to the big lore video by Das, the void thing in the abyss was going to spread in time and overtake the world. That could be another reason the watcher is able to interact with the world, maybe the void is catching up to her.
Canonically Artificer went to Scavenger Chieftan and killed him. Permanently locking her Karma to lvl 1 preventing to get to Void since even with the highest lvl scavenger corpse wouldn't be enough to max out karma to pass the the Guardians
Complete or almost complete lack scavengers on 5 Pebbles in post-artificer campaigns reinforce that ending
the void sea was never going to “retake the world”, the geology and bedrock of the world are apart of the cycle itself, moon explains it to you in the filtration pearl!
“If you leave a stone on the ground, and come back some time later, it's covered in dust. This happens everywhere, and over several lifetimes of creatures such as you, the ground slowly builds upwards.
So why doesn't the ground collide with the sky? Because far down, under the very very old layers of the earth, the rock is being dissolved or removed. The entity which does this is known as the Void Sea.”
oh boy, 2 months late to an actually good watcher analysis, love when that happens :D
the unidenaflyable regions, are complety new regions being made i think, cuz i am a aspring region modder myself, and on the region documentation, there are some regions owned by "the watcher team' suggesting that they are making some new regions
17:22 pretty much looks like the aqueducts region but in a frozen state
7:18 what is the name of this soundtrack in a background?
17:20 is the aether
Balagaga, who is quite well connected to the modding scene from what i can tell, did a video on this recently, where a lot of extra info is revealed about the modded regions: th-cam.com/video/9eU-F1Lt85Y/w-d-xo.html
ah yes, a 20 minute video analysing a 2 minute video, love to see it
jokes aside, I really enjoyed this deep look at the trailer and everything else we know about this dlc
Chat has there like any more news in the past 4 months???
It has to be before riv because uuuhm outer expanse gate
play rain worl guys :'(
something tells me the watcher was there all along, through every journey. It probably has the best idea of rain world and is meant to be played last as that's when the player would likely have all the knowledge this slugcat has
I get a similar impression! I have a feeling it’s just been lurking in the shadows all this time.
That comes with a whole heal of questions, though, like how they managed to survive all that time (do slugcats die of old age?) or how Saint’s campaign fits into things.
It would be wild if Video Cult pulled a Don Hertz. 😯 After all, ascension is a BIG driving force in Rain World. If you want to break the cycle. What if The Watcher doesn't ever want to ascend? So it's living like an echo, refusing to ascend/having no desire to leave.
Don Hertz explores the quest and consequence of immortality With:
It's Such a Beautiful Day.
World of Tomorrow.
Don Hertz Simpsons Couch Gag.
So you have achieved eternal life. Now what?
A good video analysis over Don's themes is: The best Simpsons intro is about losing everything you love.
🤔 Thinking about it, if Night-cat is lonely. No other beings may want to stay unascended with it forever. The only one? (I have some life experience in a other way, that makes my theoretical nightcat's plight relatable to me personally)
If it lost because it was separated from Gourmand's tribe? Or separated from the new slugcats it formed relationships with, once Gourmand and the rest of the tribe later on ascended or 'died?'
(Just like Bill from "It's such a beautiful day", He lives on, thousands and millions of years into the future, learning everything there is to know, 👉seeing 👈everything there is to see.)
Is it afraid of permanently dying/the unknown?
Not to mention the importance of memory, as the Watcher. It must, value it's memories highly. Everything it learned, observed, cherished is in it's memories.
*Living forever without memories, what would even be the point?*
Why would it want to ascend? Seeing its own kind enter the void sea with desires to bring themselves to an end/stop the cycle, never to be seen again. (Also reminds me of Bojack Horseman and the Void Door, watching people enter. In various states of sadness, desperation, fear, acceptance, guilt, etc...)
Just my thoughts/theory. 😺
@@MooseyCat I think it might be the case that slugcats don't die of old age, and neither does anything else, it just seems more consistent with the cycles and ascension and all that. I think that if things could die of old age, nobody would be nearly so concerned with ascension
I like the idea of something something time travel gimic. This would explain the the name as well as the different regions
I mean, didnt nightcat/watcher appear in the gourmand ending?(assuming this dlc follows the downpour timeline that is)
The “warped world” and “floor cracking” makes it seem like this takes place far into the future, when the void has finally eaten its way up the world to a point where it’s actually affecting stuff
*SPOILERS FOR SAINT and vague lore stuffs* but i think it has something to do with the great undoing and erased history consumed civilization stuff one of the echoes talks about
My theory is that the watcher doesn't take place anywhere near Moon and Pebbles, because these regions wouldn't really fit into Pebbles/Moon facility, and the fact that there is rot doesn't really mean much, and, although never explicitly said, in one of spearmaster transmissions, some iterators were talking about how Pebbles got the rot, and they seemed quite familiar with it. Also, when Moon analyzes spearmaster, we can see a DLL/MLL/BLL symbol in one of the projections, meaning the rot is already in iterators database. Another reason why i think it won't be near moon and pebbles is because in the pink region, the room is above clouds, but we don't see other iterators and the huge transmission spires, meaning that the region is really far away from iterators and the spires, which wouldn't make sense if it was near moon and pebbles... Even in saint we can see collapsed cans and crooked transmission spires!
They are modded regions
@@IdkTbhLol just because they are modded does not mean it's near Moon or Pebbles... also, modded regions are a only a small part of a really sweet package, as said by one of the devs working on watcher
@@IdkTbhLol they could just put them in a new place?
I have a feeling the watcher is meant to act as a witness to all events through history. Maybe that's why we get so many different looking areas. It sees the world through multiple points in time and it could be the first campaign that is divided up into multiple parts following the same character. With downpour, we got 5 slugcats with their own 5-10 hour campaigns, which is a lot of content. So i have a feeling that if this dlc ends up being the same length as downpour, it could be something like three campaigns all following the same character, but thats just speculation.
Missed this video till now. There's a good chance most people here already know the following info, but thought I'd clarify some things.
The opening animation is Aether Ridge. The rot is from the Cold Storage subregion, where the ancients experimented on rot with test tubes, but after they all ascended the rot broke out and has grown everywhere. There's also a gate in the heart of the rot in Cold Storage leading to a mysterious region called 'Lumen Station.' Kaeporo keeps all info about this region extremely cryptic, but it's likely planned to have lots of rot, and I fully expect to see it in Watcher.
Okay, now to say all the regions.
1st is Badlands 2, as other people have pointed out. Fishnoid wanted to remake this region a while before they joined the Watcher team, so with the new sand shader developed by Slime_Cubed, they thought Watcher would be a great opportunity to do so.
2nd is the Spearmaster variation of Stormy Coast. This could mean Watcher takes place at or prior to Spearmaster's place in the timeline, or that they'll be putting these regions in vastly different contexts.
3rd is Coral Caves. Not much to say, except this one makes sense since it connects Stormy Coast and Aether Ridge.
4th is Aether Ridge, specifically 'The Surface' subregion. This room didn't exist in the 1.5 mod since the sand texture didn't exist, and Kaeporo has heavily implied Aether Ridge will be much bigger and in a vastly different form so I suspect each subregion will be broken up into its own region.
5th is not The Mast, but rather a new region by Fishnoid inspired by a room they posted in the modding discord on new year's eve, 2022. The Mast dev snoodle has said they are not part of The Watcher team, so it's unlikely The Mast will make it, unless they're trying to keep some things a secret.
6th is Aether Ridge again, also not a room seen in the 1.5 version. Interestingly, this one is from the 'Shattered Terrace' subregion that leads to a gate to a region called Gilded Sanctuary. That region is a region jam made by a dozen different people that'll release really shortly, but it is not going to be included in The Watcher, so I wonder what other region Shattered Terrace could lead to...
7th is a new region likely by Wrayk, as they posted a very similar room on discord exactly 1 year ago as of today. It is inspired by the 'Old Drainage' region by FishSwallower.
there's one more confirmed Watcher dev called 'Cappin' who made Metropolis and Bitter Aerie. I wonder what they're working on for Watcher?
You say that you think The Watcher will add less content than Downpour, but I think that is a matter of interpretation. In terms of new campaigns, surely Downpour added more content than The Watcher will. But if this is also the case for the addition of totally new creatures... We'll see.
That’s a totally valid way of looking at it!
For me, when I think of the fact that Downpour added five totally new slugcats, each with their own fully unique story content and essentially their own full maps (not all entirely new content but redesigning almost the entire map for each campaign is still a lot), and then the new creatures and creature variants on top of that… it’s a lot of new content. There was also Jolly Co-op, Expedition mode, and so on.
I think the Watcher will still have a lot of new content to explore, but I don’t personally see it quite reaching the same amount of content as Downpour. Maybe something like 60% as big at a stretch- it’s either that, or there’s a LOT we haven’t even heard about yet (which I’m not sure about.)
I'm hoping this DLC takes place in a new region of the world. I feel like we're really done with Moon and 5P's story and their region after Downpour. Packing even more stuff into it would make it feel too dense. I want to see something completely new. Maybe this could be a DLC about Sliver of Straw (or someone else, maybe even a completely new iterator) and her region, maybe it could take place entirely in the void sea, like Rubicon, maybe it's a glimpse into what happens after ascension, or maybe it could explore some completely new. There are tons of interesting ideas that I'd love to see this DLC to explore.
When it comes to the timeframe where it could take place, considering the slight emphasis on void elements and the line about "world crumbling beneath your feet", I feel like maybe it takes place after Saint, when the current world is about to be swallowed by the void sea completely? It could definitely take place somewhere else in the timeline though, it's very open to interpretation.
Here are my thoughts on all the images:
12:36 - likely Badlands
13:46 - confirmed Stormy Coast
14:50 - confirmed Coral Caves
15:16 - confirmed Aether Ridge
16:25 - likely The Mast
17:23 - likely Aether Ridge
18:01 - closest match I can find is Sizzling Sewers, though it appears to have been majorly rehauled
IIRC someone mentioned that the 'badlands' screenshot is from a region currently called badmands 2? (IIRC it was made by the same guy that made badlands 1)
also IIRC the mast has been deconfirmed for the watcher, too
I remember in one of the Dev streams that they were talking the cut Watcher campaign. Originally the Scavengers were an integral part of it, with you even communicating with one with the mark to fulfil some sort of goal (like the Scav Chief we see in Arti's campaign). Since we see a Scav in this trailer something tells me that they might expand upon this cut content.
I also know that the devs will be focusing on getting new creatures implemented into the game, I'm hoping that they will look to some of the creatures that were cut from the original game (Mimic beetles, bubble barnacles, maybe even lizard eggs?)
A lot of these were cut for a reason, but I feel like maybe with some slight reworks they could absolutely fit in with a completely new area. Also, if nightcat does have cloaking abilities, I feel like you could work mimic beetles in with that. Downpour also added some previously removed content as well, like the slugpups, so it's absolutely possible, probable even, that they would do the same with the watcher.
Two things:
A. I don't think the Watcher is an echo or anything, since it would be very redundant territory to have two slugcat echos.
B. I don't think they will release it for consoles at the same time as PC. Console games are much more difficult to update than PC, so PC is used to find and patch bugs quickly before they release a more stable version to console.
There was this one analysis/theory on tumblr about the Qualia of rain world, and I really think it’s spot on for this expansion. It theorized that when creatures ascended they would become their own void worms and create a world based on their memories and such - I think that, as Nightcat, we could be exploring those worlds. Mainly Five Pebbles, but I think with influence from other slugcats/iterators we know of.
Yooo Daily Object Show
@@RainWorldFan142 🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝
when i tell you that i think the gimmick of the watcher is going to be a sort of timetraveling i am NOT tripping. it checks out with its name and it implies connection with the echos, but not being one itself. it could make sense with the drastically different regions that appear to be not releted at all.
amd maybe i am tripping but it sounds like a fitting theme, and its also cool so
I know this is a weird, unlikely and probably impossible idea but what if the watcher starts shortly after the gourmand’s campaign and after every amount of cycles, he goes forward in the timeline, the world changing with him. Since this is a campaign with only 1 new slugcat compared to the 5 from downpour, the idea of something ambitious like that isn’t completely off the table.
I think the pink-purple room is a sunset, though I could be wrong.
I believe that the watcher is gonna start as if you are playing an Echo then it's going to evolve into a "slugcat" itself, I imagine that the start of the campaign is going to be the watcher observing every other slugcat's journey and ascending, each time we ascend we are going to go more into the future and future campaigns, once we ascend when the world is at the state of the saint we are going to finally start the campaign itself and we are going to see the journey of an Echo in the form of a slugcat, finally getting rid of it's own vices and reaching ascension after the entire world is gone and all the iterators are dead.
Perhaps the Watcher will play similarly to safari mode, however instead of directly controlling the wildlife, the player can only influence the wildlife in order to progress. Maybe "predator and pray, refined" is supposed to hint that we won't be either predator or pray, instead *watching* the new ecosystem, playing into the Echo angle
15:15 sorry I’m commenting a lot but I’m obsessed with this DLC. Apparently, this region is aether ridge, a old region from before downpour that was never ported over to the steam workshop
Also the “snow” is apparently salt, suggesting it may be connected to shoreline and or coral coves
@@discoparrot8342 Could be some evaporated saltwater lake
@@discoparrot8342It's snow, ugly but clearly snow. We can see here the same snowflakes as in Saint campaign, so I'm betting that these are just ugly snowdrifts that, according to the developers in discord, have not been completed. And if I didn't miss something, the developers didn't say what exactly what it is, there is no apparently what it is.
@@iosis9324 It is salt. Aether Ridge (the region it's from) is a desalination rig, filled with deadly brine pits, salt floating through the air, and coating just about every single surface. It's also a very warm region, besides the Tundra Fault subsubregion and parts of Cold Storage (it is supposed to store cold things, not be cold itself.)
@@bro748 After researching this region, I will say no. There are locations with salt, but it doesn't look like that, and there's only one water location that's salty, so it is snow. And I didn't find a place in this region where the screenshot of The Watcher was taken, so In your place I wouldn't say so sure that this is exactly this location.
my theory is that The Watcher IS an echo of Survior but also Nightcat, explaining why most of the text referencing Watcher being Nightcat saying 'they have not been forgotten' and also they can camoflage as a metaphor for being forgotten, and they cannot fully disappear
and I also think that the world that they travel IS ALSO an echo, and we will see regions from different time periods
Haven’t watched the video yet but how the heck did you make a 26 minute video on a 20 second trailer?????
i’m built different
1 thing that i thought about this dlc is that it will take place in a completly different map than the base game one at least the steam description makes me think that so maybe the watcher wont meat five pebbles or moon and maybe he will meet other iterators like seven red suns and maybe if you beat the watcher campaign you get to bring old slugcats to this new map and give them new endings maybe hunter will be able to beat the game without abandoning his slugpups
rw devs had the worldbuilding and lore so fleshed out, real nice to see them press on with developing it
and i thought downpour was the end of the road
The void and Rot imagery makes me think that this takes place before the Spearmaster. If the Saint is the resolution of the story, perhaps the Watcher is a chance to see the instigation. I hope we don’t see the ancients, but I’d like to see a time when Moon and Pepples were sort of on friendly terms.
Perhaps The Watcher was the reason for the Rot. Maybe they walked into something important, or tried to eat something, or was part of the very experiment that created the rot in the first place. That would explain the Rot transition, and the horror-movie treatment the camera gives.
at 15:22 it looks like deadlands that daszombes made a video about
Wild theory here: What if this campaign takes time after the saint campaign, the void is already consuming the surface, and causing instability in the world
Ehh having lore between DLCs would be janky for the (very few) people who'd only buy Watcher. Usually lore in games with DLCs works like this:
Core game is the base of the lore, and the DLCs add new things, separately.
@@RainWorldFan142 Fair but I think a DLC should be targeted at people who know at least what happened before it, and I think videocult wouldn't discard some dope ideas just because some few people wouldn't get it, but I still understand your point
I know its probably not what i think its gonna be but what if its a entire new iterater can? I know only tiny bits of info, and i dont even know where it is in the timeline, but i have a theory that maybe this slugcat will take place atleast slightly in another iteraters can. I know that theres new regions being added, thats what im basing my theory off.
I think that in the 4th screenshot for the trailer, it could be from Daszombes' Deadlands region concept thing. More specifically, the Salt Flats sub region. But this is just my theory :>
Link to the Deadlands Region concept: th-cam.com/video/bTqwRCpYLoM/w-d-xo.html
Personally I really hoped for some 3rd iterator to go and explore. Seven red suns or maybe No significant harassment
Do you think there is chance we might get one? Since they have mentioning exploring outside of 5P, Moon facility
15:26 one discord sever I'm in turned the tiny dust reference moon made into a bit of an inside joke, and no lie that's actually why I think this is important.
Moon describes dust as appearing literally from thin air in order to perfectly counteract the void eating the land from the bottom up
There is a void themed slugcat... and an excess buildup of dust...
This video is so underrated it’s crazy
What if watcher will give us some answers on "what the rot is"
Maybe it's something more than just a cancer
I honestly don't think it takes place in Five Pebbles' facility grounds at all, or at least it primarily doesn't. I reckon it'll take place mostly, if not entirely, in a different iterators facility grounds, after all, there's only so many regions you can add to Pebbles' grounds before it winds up seeming cramped
Great analysis dawg, I feel like you have a lot of potential in the video essay space. Would love to see more videos about pretty much anything if you present it how you did just now
Isnt every being in this world emortal?
I imagine this DLC taking place way after the death of the iterators and the structures of the ancients
Wasnt the trailer 1 minute long
Hope it ends with the watcher somehow clearing the rot, even if it costs his own life so all the old whacky shit is finally over, all the horrible garbage of the ancients and the superstructures now fully behind and the world can heal. Maybe the watchers left behind are the guides and they want to finally help the world be rid of all this stuff, then getting enough karma accidently to ascend themselves?
I've only experienced Rain World through lore videos (And Memes) But one theory I've thought up is this.
Considering how Saint... Uh... "Reacted" to the void sea when they tried to ascend using it at the end of their campaign. Could it be possible that The Watcher, Being a Scug equivalent to the Echos, Is Saint post-failed Ascension?
All the Iterators have been "Ascended" by Saint, And with them gone the Rain they caused is gone too. And after the long winter, The skies have finally cleared, Allowing a new world to blossom. A world without the deadly storms, A world that the Echoed Saint now finds themselves in, As a wanderer, A traveller. Dare I say? A watcher?
Amazing video! great job, keep it up :)
I imagine the Watcher's time could span along the entire rain world timeline, and earlier, and later.
The campaign might include passing of great amounts of time.
Perhaps the "silent camouflage" could be the Watcher passing, or reversing time.
Crack theory: ROT bossfight !!! (or maybe, the Watcher is a personification of the Rot and the world's decay...?) also, the Watcher could be another form of Saint - a timeless Echo, watching over the world.
The unusual color palette of screenshot could the Watcher mid-use of their time. ability
The two different badlands-like screenshots could suggest that the Watcher sees one region in different periods of time, no?
Thanks for theorizing! Lovely insight and voice, have a nice day!
Whats funny is on the rain world subreddit, I posted an idea for a slug cat that could turn invisible, and while I don't think thats what this character does, someone commented on my post telling me I called it when the announcement for the DLC dropped, which was funny.
Considering downpour, with its emphasis on new slugcats, added a joke slugcat, im wondering if this dlc with an emphasis on exploration and new regions will have some kind of joke region. are they gonna make stupis dupis canon
I’m kinda thinking that the question about holding on or diving makes me wonder if we’re going into a new world via the void fluid?? Like am I just tripping I got a lot more on the idea but I’m to lazy to type
I am so excited for this dlc to come but I wouldn’t be TOO excited cuz apparently it over 4 years! For downpour dlc to release, tho it was announced 2 years ago but had a spearmaster teaser 4 years ago
it says post saint. and saint is probably a couple million years after survivor so it living at the same time as gourmand is VERY unlikely. although it is weird that there is no snow and rot is still there. i however think that this is after the ice age. but still it wouldn't explain the rot. it however would explain the devs saying they were mostly making new creatures
Commenting this at the beginning of the video- I think that it’s takes place in the future immediately after seeing the rot because it means that it has progressed on infecting 5P. Definitely takes place before saint though!
If we get emphasis on the title, 2:00 you can See A Pole,A Rot,
Or a Slugcat or just shattered pieces on the R
Maybe Nightcat is the messenger of the “forced communication” that causes the accident that starts the rot in Five Pebbles.
i heard that most/all the screenshots on steam are from modded regions because those are the ones that are the most finished, but there will be brand new regions. if it was just modded regions, people who've played a lot of mods would be disappointed
I don't know much about the rot but it probably is an organism that existed already a long time ago so it might be possible that we will be in the past where we will finally see the creator of the iterators.
Where is the watcher in the timline? Is it before the spearmaster of a fallen iterator or after saint in the ruins of five pebbles
15:22 what if this region is the recently released "forsaken station"?
5:12 music
I think it might be survivor turned into an echo becaue he missed him family
Also i have theory that in watcher's campaign, world turned into a huge desert (similar to what happened in saint campaign )
finally a rainworld fan with the decency to put a spoiler warning
oo i thought this watcher thing was a mod at first,, this is so cewl,,
My guess for the point of the campaign is to climb the tower and listrn to the iterators conversations as moon has just regained some functionality
I thought the night cat in arena mode was inv
Wait, this is actually a thing?
Giant lanternmice will eat lizards
I have a theory about some of the new creatures. Remember one of the pearls mentioning "purposed organisms" of which we - the slugcats and probably most creatures you see - are descendants? I one there are tube like things mentioned solely meant as matter processor. Something goes in one side, and comes out the other side as something useful or safely disposable. "Burrow and hide" combined with the sandy grounds of one of the new regions; I think one of the new creatures would be a kind of worm that burrows through the ground to ambush you.
I think The Watcher's ability to cloak/camouflage may have something to do with their seemingly deeper connection to the void sea. At least the way they're presented in the character art would suggest it (with the golden and rippling effects). It's described that void liquid is very difficult to use, as it's full of debris which is hard to filter out of, and slowly dissolves any material it touches. If we assume this deep connection is correct then perhaps through a kind of similar effect it can blend in with the environment. Or it could also be a more natural based camouflage and that this connection suggests being able to interact with echoes?
A theory that i have is that the watcher has been always there, they somewhat turned into some kind of phisichal echo or something a long ago, and now theyre doomed to live for the rest of the ethernity. They found and lived in a community (which explains gourmand endings) and when everyone died/ascended/left, they continued their journey. The time passes and sees how the rot and nature covers the places they saw (can explain the title of the trailer). They explore more and find many new places outside pebbles grounds.
Basically an inmortal slugcat in safari mode with full experience guaranteed with some power inside that observes how everything evolves as the planet cools down, *or maybie it gets warmer again?* keep in mind that theres a desert, which means that rain has been gone for a very long time and coral caves seem to have a visible sky (im not familliar with the mod and im actually not sure if the blue is the sky or just some cool effect under a cave). Theres also a snowy biome, which is kinda confusing because how would you add a seemingly hot desert and a tundra in the same map? Maybie time travelling? Maybie the map is HUGE? Maybie it has something to do with the Watcher's theoretically endless life?
NIGHTCAT REAL
I don't know a lot of the game lore, but the watcher seems to have ties to echos (as stated in the video). Echos are supposedly created by trying to ascend without ridding yourself of things like greed, arrogance, etc (as stated in the video). Since you can't reach max karma as Artificer, the karma counter flashes red while swimming into the void sea, and the void worms don't help you. I always wandered what happened to them...
17:30 that's the Aether Ridge 100%! That was such an amazing and difficult mod.
omg ?? i thought you'd have so much more recognition! this video is sososo well made and pointed out a lot of things i didn't even notice after analyzing the trailer/steam page myself :00 will definitely be checking out the series w/ your friend ! ^_^
so, is it just easier more friendly inv?
Design is the only similar thing
SO EXITED!
Man, wish I could afford this game
A couple weeks ago there was a sale that you could get rain world, downpour, and 2 other things for $3.50 on steam
Did you miss it?
@@dawnduringnighttime brotha
I'm brazilian
3.50 dollars is like, 18 BRL, I can't afford to spend 18 bucks on a game
i think this dlc will have a lot more content than we think. a lot of the time put into downpour was overhauling preexisting systems they had (like the lighting, as they talk about in some of the in game dev logs) so stuff they work on here would hopefully be more streamlined? idk
A neat little detail I don’t think you mentioned is that it looks like the cover art is inside of a Memory Crypt. The boxes have almost identical patterns and there looks to be an underhang in the sky.
The badlands looking area looks like the connection between industrial and garbage wastes
I have a feeling nightcat is going to have crazy cycle system
15:14 is very likely aether ridge, color palette matches and coral caves connects directly to it.
17:26 is likely shattered terrance, a WIP mod shown a few times in the discord by the same modder as aether ridge.
just double checked released images and 17:26 is 100% confirmed shattered terrance. matches up 1:1.
15:16 SLIVER OF STRAW??? MAYBE??
great video!
17:00 maybe it’s dusk/dawn?
am i the only one who kind of hopes there isnt a gimmick? or at least it's not something major, like hunter's back spear. The downpour scugs' gimmicks are really overpowered and i feel like this is a chance to...not do that again
I just hope it's a much needed return to the "dumb rat in NYC" less grandiose essence of the game, given that the actual lore dev (James) is the one writing it instead of fanfic from a mod
I don't really agree with the 'fanfic' take on downpour, as the 'massiveness' is somewhat exclusive to riv and spear, with saint being more like a perspective for us to see the new state of the world. Gorm and Arti just hone in on one gimmick, but it works in their favour to do what they need to, gourmand being a reintroduction to veterans, sprinkling in new mechanics to make you feel new to rw again, and arti exists to make you feel prepared for the hard parts of riv spear and saint. Only Rivulet and Spearmaster feel even slightly like facilitators of fanfiction, saint is much more natural and all of their gimmicks exist to further their spot in the plot and how you view their campaigns. @@milksonghorlet
Fantastic video!