That's it. That's the issue I've been having with it. This is not a Guardian card. Guardians don't move, they don't steal. They random bullshit go it. This would have fit so much better as cloak and dagger. And that would be easier to work with since that characters stuck in either form.
The reason is Cloak and Dagger was annnounce near Marvel Rivals release. Marvel Snap need 2-5 months to make a card. If Cloak and Dagger was in the Marvel Rivals beta, 100% they choose Cloak and Dagger.
@@kucinghoren7864 No, that's not why. "Rocket and Groot" is a combo. They wanted to have at least one team up card. So it never really had any chance of being Cloak and Dagger because they don't have a Team up effect....But I do wish they'd of kept workshopping this combo. It just doesn't fit in with what all the other Guardians do.
@@animo358it absolutely slots in well w/ the guardians -- rocket & groot A) motivate the enemy to play in the two other lanes, helping the guardians be more consistent, B) can be moved in order to "read" the enemy (as guardians do) and C) synergize w/ guardians friendly cards (i.e. jean grey) Would have loved for this to be cloak and dagger tho, but the team up reasoning makes sense.
I'm finding this card very versatile! Not sure I like it in a surfer build, but it adds a new level of flexibility to affliction decks that I'm really enjoying. Feels like this can slot in well in a handful of decks regardless of CL.
I got the new card in 1 key, so very happy about that. I now for sure can use 4, if need be on the Victoria Hand week. I have Devious plans for Collector Discard, and must get Hand and Bullseye. I think Moonstone might be able to double Victoria hand as well though, so I'd like to try and cook with all 3 of those cards.
Nice Deck Nina! I will definitely give this a try Ive been messing with all kinds of decks. I went with Jean Gray at first. Kinda hard to find cards to play with her. But Thanks again! HAPPY NEW YEAR🎉
Unless someone has head up ass, I'm obviously saying the card isn't good enough to spend keys getting it on my main, as there are better cards incoming. It's interesting enough to practice with on my alt. And if you can't figure out on your own the benefit of having an alt, I don't think I can help you much. Any other ingenious questions?
This is my initial deck utilizing JG & R&G & my game plan utilizing cards that require my opponent to play at certain locations. Test it out & let me know what you think: Kitty Pryde, Nebula, Rocket Raccoon, White Widow, Lizard, Groot, Rocket & Groot, Jean Grey, Spider-Man, War Machine, Sandman, Gamora. Turn 1: Nebula>KP Turn 2: WW>Lizard Turn 3: R&G>JG>SM(over Juggernaut because SM could possibly move Widows Bite somewhere else) Turn 4: WM>JG+Kitty>R&G+KP>SM+KP Turn 5: WM+Kitty>Sandman>JG+WW/Lizard>R&G+WW/Lizard Turn 6: With Sandman on 5; Gamora (for height), Groot+RR>Lizard>WW>KP (for width). Without Sandman; Gamora+RR>KP (for 2 locations)/Groot+SM>RR+KP>Lizard>WW>RR>KP (for 2 to 3 locations)
@@ninaisnoob I wonder if Jean works better to drop as a turn 5 play to force someone to play into it on the final turn or to pair with an earlier dropped Negasonic which they dodged. If you're pretty set in winning one lane you could move an early Rocket & Groot into that Jean grey. With Hope you could drop Jean and Nega on turn 6 then go from there. Could be potential. I just wish Jean was a 2 drop and then make it so her ability activates on later turns similarly to Arishems energy changes they did recently. Gives the opponent a turn to try and play around the Jean before having to play into her on the last few turns.
Hey, Nina. Will you rank 2024 cards and season? Anyway, My Marvel Snap 2024 cards rank. Game Changer (S): War Machine, Red Guardian, Arishem, Scream, Doom2099, Scorn. Great (A): Skaar, Caeira, Hope Summers, Mockingbird, Cannonball, Red Hulk, Sage, Thena, Kate Bishop, Silver Sable, Madame Webb, Surtur. Good (B): Grandmaster, Cull Obsidian, Proxima Midnight, Corvus Glaive, White Widow, Blink, Nocturne, Namora, Sasquatch, Gilgamesh, Sersi, Phastos, Gwenpool, Hydra Bob, Ajax, Cassandra Nova, Copycat, Marvel Boy, Wiccan, Symbiote Spider-Man, Arana, Scarlet Spider, Agent Venom, Toxin, Misery, Agony, Fenris Wolf, Frigga, King Eitri, Galacta, Luna Snow, Peni Parker, Lasher. Bad (C): Hercules, Miek, Beta Ray Bill, Supergiant, Pixie, Valentina, US Agent, Baron Zemo, Makkari, Malekith, Gorr, Rocket Racoon and Groot. Worse (D): Black Swan, Speed, Emperor Hulkling, Bruce Banner. Best Season: AvX Best Season Music: Young Avengers Worse Season: Blink In Time Best Location: F.E.A.S.T Worse Location: Brooklyn Bridge Best Card: Arishem Best Season Pass Card: Skaar Worse Card: Bruce Banner Worse Season pass: Baron Zemo (i said Black Swan worse because i can't play her well but for Baron Zemo best Marvel Villains he should have better ability) Note and Opinion: - I am F2P (except galacta) i don't have 40 out 67 2024 new cards, i got some season pass card through spotlight keys, i rank cards that i don't have by opponent play and how i beat them and TH-camrs play. - This is my rank, you can disagree with me because we have different play/decks. - All nerf or buff are combined. - Gorr is easily beaten by Super-Skrull and hard to play. - Cassandra Nova only good if you face Arishem. - Hydra Bob was actually good to steal opportunity on early turn so you can't get countered. - Baron Zemo and Makkari are bad card because easily clogged. - I find difficult to play Black Swan and Beta Ray Bill. - Corvus Glaive was originally rank Great (A) i lowering because he keeps discarding Hela. I change Hela, now he targeting Modok. Remind me of original Blade that discard important card.
I pulled, 3 keys. It is allowing me to play cards I havent played due to the meta like jean grey. I have tokens to get victoria hand since I will be low on keys
Nice job dressing up a series 3 card as a series 5 card second dinner.....why can we not have anymore series 4 cards?! Theres more 5s than 4s. Almost more than 3!
It really is a weak ending to a season, banner is indeed rng ass(that never works in my favor XD) and outside using rocket-groot in an ajax deck(might be valid), not risking keys for a blob variant, as i already have a selene one :D
U should wait till the end of the week if some people cooked with some decks, but i dont think its a must have. Especially with Blob Selene in the rotation
I just find it funny how so many people were dogging on Doctor Doom 2099 since they saw trailers for him, but were hyping up Bruce Banner and Rocket & Groot. I must have a sixth sense for this game because I immediately saved for Doom2099 before anything else. But I have always been a fan of Ramp and Jubilee decks, so that could be why I wasn't afraid of the "play one card per turn" structure of the card. As for Rocket and Groot.. Seem underwhelming. It's almost like the opposite effect of Nebula but with move functionality. And the fact you only steal 1 power per card really dampens the potential. The fact that it can so easily be undone by a Shadow King or Luke Cage(at least half way)... I mean it's better than current Bruce Banner for what that's worth. Surprised this ability if for Rocket and Groot rather than Cloak and Dagger.. Missed opportunity there. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw buffs incoming for Bruce and R&G.
I don't know who you were watching but most I've seen were talking about how good Doom 2099 was going to be (Cozy might be one of the few not super on board) but I do agree that Rocket & Groot were talked about as being really really good.
Got him eith 1 key. Can't complain
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I play him in my Guardian Deck with Jean Gray
Yeah me too. I don't even mind I'm losing almost every game 😂
Had this card been cloak and dagger, I would've gotten it
That's it. That's the issue I've been having with it. This is not a Guardian card.
Guardians don't move, they don't steal. They random bullshit go it. This would have fit so much better as cloak and dagger. And that would be easier to work with since that characters stuck in either form.
The reason is Cloak and Dagger was annnounce near Marvel Rivals release. Marvel Snap need 2-5 months to make a card. If Cloak and Dagger was in the Marvel Rivals beta, 100% they choose Cloak and Dagger.
@@kucinghoren7864 No, that's not why. "Rocket and Groot" is a combo. They wanted to have at least one team up card. So it never really had any chance of being Cloak and Dagger because they don't have a Team up effect....But I do wish they'd of kept workshopping this combo. It just doesn't fit in with what all the other Guardians do.
@@animo358it absolutely slots in well w/ the guardians -- rocket & groot A) motivate the enemy to play in the two other lanes, helping the guardians be more consistent, B) can be moved in order to "read" the enemy (as guardians do) and C) synergize w/ guardians friendly cards (i.e. jean grey)
Would have loved for this to be cloak and dagger tho, but the team up reasoning makes sense.
@animo358 if it were accurate though C&D would be two cards in one like how Nico is 6 in 1
I'm really looking forward to Kate Bishop's spotlight.
I'm finding this card very versatile! Not sure I like it in a surfer build, but it adds a new level of flexibility to affliction decks that I'm really enjoying. Feels like this can slot in well in a handful of decks regardless of CL.
Im passing and saving my keys for Bullseye, Caiera and Marvel Boy week.
I got the new card in 1 key, so very happy about that. I now for sure can use 4, if need be on the Victoria Hand week. I have Devious plans for Collector Discard, and must get Hand and Bullseye. I think Moonstone might be able to double Victoria hand as well though, so I'd like to try and cook with all 3 of those cards.
Great review ! Thànks and happy new year 🎉🎉
Nice Deck Nina! I will definitely give this a try
Ive been messing with all kinds of decks. I went with Jean Gray at first. Kinda hard to find cards to play with her.
But Thanks again! HAPPY NEW YEAR🎉
Happy new year, Nina!!! 💙
I'm going to get it for my alt account. I'll enjoy trying it out in some move decks there. And yes, Jean Gray seems interesting, as well.
What’s the point of having a card on an alt account and not the main?
What's the point of having an alt account in the first place? 😅@@FilmColossus
I had alt acc before. Waste my time more.
Unless someone has head up ass, I'm obviously saying the card isn't good enough to spend keys getting it on my main, as there are better cards incoming. It's interesting enough to practice with on my alt. And if you can't figure out on your own the benefit of having an alt, I don't think I can help you much. Any other ingenious questions?
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Red guardian is the most broken card in game rn i have him in 100% of my decks ☠️
He’s so good!
He makes all tech cards look like babies
Not broken, but the best tech at the moment
agree, iron man just a brainless tony stark in front of him 😂
@@markthetranslator1162 definitely broken imo lol
This is my initial deck utilizing JG & R&G & my game plan utilizing cards that require my opponent to play at certain locations. Test it out & let me know what you think:
Kitty Pryde, Nebula, Rocket Raccoon, White Widow, Lizard, Groot, Rocket & Groot, Jean Grey, Spider-Man, War Machine, Sandman, Gamora.
Turn 1: Nebula>KP
Turn 2: WW>Lizard
Turn 3: R&G>JG>SM(over Juggernaut because SM could possibly move Widows Bite somewhere else)
Turn 4: WM>JG+Kitty>R&G+KP>SM+KP
Turn 5: WM+Kitty>Sandman>JG+WW/Lizard>R&G+WW/Lizard
Turn 6: With Sandman on 5; Gamora (for height), Groot+RR>Lizard>WW>KP (for width). Without Sandman; Gamora+RR>KP (for 2 locations)/Groot+SM>RR+KP>Lizard>WW>RR>KP (for 2 to 3 locations)
i love Nina reviews.
I was thinking Jean Gray would work perfectly for Groot/Rocket?
jean grey is clunky af because you have to play her out on turn 3 then R&G on turn 4 and when are you ever going to have initiative with that play
@@ninaisnoob You're right, I think it would look better with Nevula
@@ninaisnoob I wonder if Jean works better to drop as a turn 5 play to force someone to play into it on the final turn or to pair with an earlier dropped Negasonic which they dodged. If you're pretty set in winning one lane you could move an early Rocket & Groot into that Jean grey. With Hope you could drop Jean and Nega on turn 6 then go from there.
Could be potential. I just wish Jean was a 2 drop and then make it so her ability activates on later turns similarly to Arishems energy changes they did recently. Gives the opponent a turn to try and play around the Jean before having to play into her on the last few turns.
RRG working great right now with Jean and the guardians.
that was me in the second game with the spiderman avatar , GG's Nina
GGs!
I don’t think any of the other spotlights coming up are good at all either. Pretty boring January and February
I felt on the hype and coasted me 3 keys
Same my dude. I'm not taking it too hard, been lucky before. Still going to roll my next key for it.
Hey, Nina. Will you rank 2024 cards and season?
Anyway,
My Marvel Snap 2024 cards rank.
Game Changer (S): War Machine, Red Guardian, Arishem, Scream, Doom2099, Scorn.
Great (A): Skaar, Caeira, Hope Summers, Mockingbird, Cannonball, Red Hulk, Sage, Thena, Kate Bishop, Silver Sable, Madame Webb, Surtur.
Good (B): Grandmaster, Cull Obsidian, Proxima Midnight, Corvus Glaive, White Widow, Blink, Nocturne, Namora, Sasquatch, Gilgamesh, Sersi, Phastos, Gwenpool, Hydra Bob, Ajax, Cassandra Nova, Copycat, Marvel Boy, Wiccan, Symbiote Spider-Man, Arana, Scarlet Spider, Agent Venom, Toxin, Misery, Agony, Fenris Wolf, Frigga, King Eitri, Galacta, Luna Snow, Peni Parker, Lasher.
Bad (C): Hercules, Miek, Beta Ray Bill, Supergiant, Pixie, Valentina, US Agent, Baron Zemo, Makkari, Malekith, Gorr, Rocket Racoon and Groot.
Worse (D): Black Swan, Speed, Emperor Hulkling, Bruce Banner.
Best Season: AvX
Best Season Music: Young Avengers
Worse Season: Blink In Time
Best Location: F.E.A.S.T
Worse Location: Brooklyn Bridge
Best Card: Arishem
Best Season Pass Card: Skaar
Worse Card: Bruce Banner
Worse Season pass: Baron Zemo (i said Black Swan worse because i can't play her well but for Baron Zemo best Marvel Villains he should have better ability)
Note and Opinion:
- I am F2P (except galacta) i don't have 40 out 67 2024 new cards, i got some season pass card through spotlight keys, i rank cards that i don't have by opponent play and how i beat them and TH-camrs play.
- This is my rank, you can disagree with me because we have different play/decks.
- All nerf or buff are combined.
- Gorr is easily beaten by Super-Skrull and hard to play.
- Cassandra Nova only good if you face Arishem.
- Hydra Bob was actually good to steal opportunity on early turn so you can't get countered.
- Baron Zemo and Makkari are bad card because easily clogged.
- I find difficult to play Black Swan and Beta Ray Bill.
- Corvus Glaive was originally rank Great (A) i lowering because he keeps discarding Hela. I change Hela, now he targeting Modok. Remind me of original Blade that discard important card.
I pulled, 3 keys. It is allowing me to play cards I havent played due to the meta like jean grey. I have tokens to get victoria hand since I will be low on keys
I want Victoria and Kate, Victoria will be great in Loki, Arishem or Thanos (Thanos is the deck I use the most)
@fleetway6790 she does Not Work with cards created in your Deck!
@TheZett26 true, in your description it only says on the hand, right?
i guess its not worth for my lovely keys, we have enough cool cost 3 cards, beside, the other 2 cards of this spotlight are suck 😔
The costume changes in the outro. Is she doing solo Rocket/Groot cosplay. 😂
Nice job dressing up a series 3 card as a series 5 card second dinner.....why can we not have anymore series 4 cards?! Theres more 5s than 4s. Almost more than 3!
First time?
too late but at least you can move it so ıts not a bad card to get
oh no 🤣 i mean, it's not a bad card. just overhyped imo
@@ninaisnoob Interesting to hear how you'd place this in this month's new cards
Welp, spent one key(out of 4) for the hek of it, and got Agent Venom. Guess i won? XD
You mean 1000 tokens right?
@@Wollie1979 Oh no, i didn't have agent venom, and pulled him in the gold card :D
You did! Agent Venom is still great.
Can be wrong but I thought Nina quit playing Marvel Snap?
I still play, just not as much!
@ ah okay! 👍🏼
It really is a weak ending to a season, banner is indeed rng ass(that never works in my favor XD) and outside using rocket-groot in an ajax deck(might be valid), not risking keys for a blob variant, as i already have a selene one :D
I’m pretty sure this is Blob’s second time
It’s his 4th time. Check snap.fan
but but I loce rocket and groot
Def skip for me. I ll save my keys and open on Black Swan week in jan, and maybe some for feb
Nina is Bae
take it or leave it?
U should wait till the end of the week if some people cooked with some decks, but i dont think its a must have. Especially with Blob Selene in the rotation
Knew it was gonna be a bad card from the start
I didn't see much of a hype for them either, also bad variants in the spotlight, so I'm most likely going to pass on them.
Look love, we need to face eachother
I just got over 500 million at more than one location
They’re good. Especially with Jean Grey
i didn't like it! but just my opinion
@@ninaisnoobalso really good in surfer, just my opinion
Bad deck that's why @ninaisnoob
why does she say negasonic like that?
what are these "many better three drops"
I’d saw Copycat, Cassandra Nova, Hope Summers, Sebastian Shaw (if you’re doing pure surfer), Red Guardian would be my picks over Rocket and Groot
Brood is a must have for Surfer too. But yea, the ones ghouulie mentioned are all better in Surfer than R&G imo.
@@ninaisnoob Brood totally slipped my mind. Definitely best card in surfer imo because of galacta
Gladiator, Speed, Red Guardian, Copycat, the list goes on..
@@swedishZ0mBi3 speed and gladiator is a stretch ngl
first overhyped card of 2025
I just find it funny how so many people were dogging on Doctor Doom 2099 since they saw trailers for him, but were hyping up Bruce Banner and Rocket & Groot. I must have a sixth sense for this game because I immediately saved for Doom2099 before anything else. But I have always been a fan of Ramp and Jubilee decks, so that could be why I wasn't afraid of the "play one card per turn" structure of the card.
As for Rocket and Groot.. Seem underwhelming. It's almost like the opposite effect of Nebula but with move functionality. And the fact you only steal 1 power per card really dampens the potential. The fact that it can so easily be undone by a Shadow King or Luke Cage(at least half way)... I mean it's better than current Bruce Banner for what that's worth. Surprised this ability if for Rocket and Groot rather than Cloak and Dagger.. Missed opportunity there. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw buffs incoming for Bruce and R&G.
I don't know who you were watching but most I've seen were talking about how good Doom 2099 was going to be (Cozy might be one of the few not super on board) but I do agree that Rocket & Groot were talked about as being really really good.
The hell was hyping Bruce Banner? Who would be so insane?