I’m another who finds the eng stop feature annoying. I have had a pathfinder for about a week now and I keep forgetting to hit the button to turn that “feature “ off. Saving gas my ass; it’s a way to get me into the repair shop a lot sooner.
Hi, Metoo…? Does this work for the 2023 Nissan Pathfinder I don’t want to start removing the hole center console to connect a wire in the market to stop it function. Thanks
Good to know thanks. Only thing I’ll add is to put some dielectric grease or even some wd40 on the conections before you cover them especially if you live in an area that uses road salt.
The easiest way is to stick something into the bottom of the off switch so the switch is always off. Then every time you start the truck, the Auto Start Stop (A.S.S.) is immediately turned off. Have had the ends of two black tie straps (cut to size) since day one (even before I remove the four stupid low hung steps on the rocker bars) jammed in under the switch with now close to 2500 miles of never having the stupid A.S.S system turning the engine off. You will NOT get the flashing IP symbols stating the system is turned off. What you will get is that warning light (hardly noticeable if not flashing in the IP under the speedometer and the yellow light on the switch. NOTHING FLASHES to distract you since most can see the warning stating the system is off. And the warning in the IP and the yellow light are the same as if you manually pushed the switch to turn off the system after the ignition is turn on. Just jam then switch close....give it a try. All the switch does when it is pushed in, is give a circuit from the BCM (pin 7) to ground (pin 5). The BCM sees the ground signal on that circuit as the switch pushed in. A lot easier and NO FLASHING LIGHTS ANYWHERE. Try it; nothing to lose. A small folded over piece of cardboard works too, it just shows. The two small cut flush to the switch, end from ties straps are not noticeable. If afraid of the dealer saying anything, with a small pin you can remove them when going into service and install again or use new ones on leaving service.
This works and you can always remove it if you want to quickly return the truck to stock operation. I used a piece of clear, rigid plastic cut to the width of the button. Has to be thick enough to hold the button in. Then just push plastic into the bottom gap. I don't even notice it unless I look carefully.
Just got a 2023 and cut a piece of small black tie wrap used a jeweler flat head tiny screwdriver and bam it worked just hope she stays like that Thanks !!
I had a 2023 ProX that got totalled out. So I got my 2024 Pro4X with the auto start/ stop. The first time it activated I just about had a heart attack and shit myself! I thought the guy behind me hit my new truck!! Im still a lil messed up from accident ( mentality). I hate it!! Thanks for the post!!
This is NOT the wiring for the auto/start stop (A.S.S.) feature! This is for the Variable Voltage Charging System (VVCA). This dummies down the vehicles charging system so the alternator does not continuously charge, which in theory reduces the load, which supposedly saves you that .0001 mpg every year 🤣 Go to club frontier or google the VVCS Nissan Frontier for more info. Again, has nothing to do with the A.S.S. feature, which I agree, is just as useless and causes more problems than the few drops of fuel you supposedly save 😁
I disagree in part. The Idle Start Stop system works on an "and gate". (If you search electricle And Gate). Multiple things need to be monitored for the ISS system to work. For example: the trans in drive, engine at idle, foot on the brake, engine to temp and in this case ECM able to monitor the charging of the ISS battery. By disconnecting that plug you remove that ability. So the system is deactivated. Again, this is for people that don't like ISS. You don't have to do this. I did it and took my truck to the dealer for service. They didn't even mention it. This is just an FYI for the people who don't like the government regulation forced on the $46k vehicle we just purchased.
Dude I’m mindblown 🤯 thank you so much for this!!! I’ve always said it’s the only thing I don’t like about my truck. Do you know if it damages anything else in any capacity?
I got a '23 Frontier Pro4X...I'm glad it didn't come with the auto start/stop feature. My other vehicle I always have to deactivate very annoying IMHO.
@@hulong0205I bought mine in March of this year....so glad it didn't come with that annoying start/stop feature, I have a BMW that has it and always had to turn it off.
I'm glad my 2022 did not have idle stop. I hate the system, sadly the government had made it mandatory equipment on all new vehicles. Clever simple way to disable it, if the ECM cannot see battery voltage, assumes it is too low, and will disable idle stop. Every vehicle with idle stop has a voltage monitor, and if unplugged will disable idle stop.
I've gotten into the habit of hitting the off button in my Pathfinder. The system is neat, but it's overly sensitive and annoying as hell. Nissan needs to offer an update to where it will stay off after you shut it off. Take out the alerts and let the display setting as off not be overridden when it engages. There is a slight delay when it restarts at a stop light needs to be adjusted. Also, if you shut it off while it's engaged w/o putting it in Park; there is a delay on when the door will unlock.
Not sure but I would look at the battery and if there's a connector on one of the terminals try disconnecting it. The basic architecture should be the same. If it doesn't work put it back. If it works great! Good luck.
thank you for this. i hate the start/stop feature. the owner should be able to permanently toggle the switch on and off at their choosing. of course the epa and crunchy hippies insist on saving drops of gas over the course of months.
Would changing the switch to a paddle switch that stays in the on or off position work? Or, just jumper the wires behind the switch so they are always connected. Would either of those methods solve the problem?
Either way will work as I stated I jammed a few tie strap ends into the bottom of the switch and for over 2500 miles the system has never activated. You can also remove the back connector and jump a wire between pins 7 signal wire from BCM to pin 5 to ground. When the BCM sees ground on that circuit on pin 5 is shuts the system down!
@@eddiehaskell5578 True. When you start the truck you have to hit the switch again. Which is the point. Good luck voting for Nikki. Just having fun with ya.
Thanks for sharing I hate it to, and the starter will last longer with out that
I’m another who finds the eng stop feature annoying. I have had a pathfinder for about a week now and I keep forgetting to hit the button to turn that “feature “ off. Saving gas my ass; it’s a way to get me into the repair shop a lot sooner.
Hi, Metoo…? Does this work for the 2023 Nissan Pathfinder I don’t want to start removing the hole center console to connect a wire in the market to stop it function. Thanks
Thanks so much for sharing, I hate that it’s a habit for me everytime I start mine to push the auto start stop button
THANKS, GOT A 24 FRONTIER LESS THAN 500 MILES THIS WAS DRIVING ME NUTS. THANKS AGAIN
Good to know thanks. Only thing I’ll add is to put some dielectric grease or even some wd40 on the conections before you cover them especially if you live in an area that uses road salt.
GRATE‼️ that things annoying as hell‼️
The easiest way is to stick something into the bottom of the off switch so the switch is always off. Then every time you start the truck, the Auto Start Stop (A.S.S.) is immediately turned off. Have had the ends of two black tie straps (cut to size) since day one (even before I remove the four stupid low hung steps on the rocker bars) jammed in under the switch with now close to 2500 miles of never having the stupid A.S.S system turning the engine off.
You will NOT get the flashing IP symbols stating the system is turned off. What you will get is that warning light (hardly noticeable if not flashing in the IP under the speedometer and the yellow light on the switch. NOTHING FLASHES to distract you since most can see the warning stating the system is off. And the warning in the IP and the yellow light are the same as if you manually pushed the switch to turn off the system after the ignition is turn on.
Just jam then switch close....give it a try.
All the switch does when it is pushed in, is give a circuit from the BCM (pin 7) to ground (pin 5). The BCM sees the ground signal on that circuit as the switch pushed in.
A lot easier and NO FLASHING LIGHTS ANYWHERE.
Try it; nothing to lose. A small folded over piece of cardboard works too, it just shows. The two small cut flush to the switch, end from ties straps are not noticeable.
If afraid of the dealer saying anything, with a small pin you can remove them when going into service and install again or use new ones on leaving service.
This works and you can always remove it if you want to quickly return the truck to stock operation. I used a piece of clear, rigid plastic cut to the width of the button. Has to be thick enough to hold the button in. Then just push plastic into the bottom gap. I don't even notice it unless I look carefully.
Just got a 2023 and cut a piece of small black tie wrap used a jeweler flat head tiny screwdriver and bam it worked just hope she stays like that Thanks !!
I had a 2023 ProX that got totalled out. So I got my 2024 Pro4X with the auto start/ stop. The first time it activated I just about had a heart attack and shit myself! I thought the guy behind me hit my new truck!! Im still a lil messed up from accident ( mentality). I hate it!! Thanks for the post!!
This is NOT the wiring for the auto/start stop (A.S.S.) feature!
This is for the Variable Voltage Charging System (VVCA). This dummies down the vehicles charging system so the alternator does not continuously charge, which in theory reduces the load, which supposedly saves you that .0001 mpg every year 🤣
Go to club frontier or google the VVCS Nissan Frontier for more info.
Again, has nothing to do with the A.S.S. feature, which I agree, is just as useless and causes more problems than the few drops of fuel you supposedly save 😁
I disagree in part. The Idle Start Stop system works on an "and gate". (If you search electricle And Gate). Multiple things need to be monitored for the ISS system to work. For example: the trans in drive, engine at idle, foot on the brake, engine to temp and in this case ECM able to monitor the charging of the ISS battery. By disconnecting that plug you remove that ability. So the system is deactivated. Again, this is for people that don't like ISS. You don't have to do this. I did it and took my truck to the dealer for service. They didn't even mention it. This is just an FYI for the people who don't like the government regulation forced on the $46k vehicle we just purchased.
I will trying this tomorrow.
No don't do that just use the switch
Allan. Can you specify the damage it causes??@@alanroberts6918
@@roby14I’d just take .025 seconds of my life to push the button..which is a habit now for me
Great! Glad that .025 seconds worked out for you. My way just takes 0.000 seconds. Wondering why some people don't like this??🤔@@mabelpup8502
Wheres the switch at?@@alanroberts6918
Dude I’m mindblown 🤯 thank you so much for this!!! I’ve always said it’s the only thing I don’t like about my truck. Do you know if it damages anything else in any capacity?
I make you no guarantees. I have my truck for 10K miles and it runs perfect. I've done this with all my vehicles.Good luck.
I got a '23 Frontier Pro4X...I'm glad it didn't come with the auto start/stop feature. My other vehicle I always have to deactivate very annoying IMHO.
I looked high and low, couldn't find one without ISS. You're lucky.
Mine is 23 Pro4x. It has auto stop.
Yours is probably 22
@@hulong0205 Negative ghostrider...mine is a '23 per VIN and Monroney label.
@@ammomeister going through the comments. Seem some 23 does not have auto stop, perhaps early models. Good for you.
@@hulong0205I bought mine in March of this year....so glad it didn't come with that annoying start/stop feature, I have a BMW that has it and always had to turn it off.
I'm glad my 2022 did not have idle stop. I hate the system, sadly the government had made it mandatory equipment on all new vehicles. Clever simple way to disable it, if the ECM cannot see battery voltage, assumes it is too low, and will disable idle stop. Every vehicle with idle stop has a voltage monitor, and if unplugged will disable idle stop.
I've gotten into the habit of hitting the off button in my Pathfinder. The system is neat, but it's overly sensitive and annoying as hell. Nissan needs to offer an update to where it will stay off after you shut it off. Take out the alerts and let the display setting as off not be overridden when it engages. There is a slight delay when it restarts at a stop light needs to be adjusted. Also, if you shut it off while it's engaged w/o putting it in Park; there is a delay on when the door will unlock.
Does this work for all Nissan or just the frontier? I have a 23 rogue
Not sure but I would look at the battery and if there's a connector on one of the terminals try disconnecting it. The basic architecture should be the same. If it doesn't work put it back. If it works great! Good luck.
Thanks 🤙🏻
Thanks!
Is that the same wire for smart alternator signal disconnect?
Not sure. Don't realy care either. I'd rather a dumb altinator than my car shutting off every time I stop.
thank you for this. i hate the start/stop feature. the owner should be able to permanently toggle the switch on and off at their choosing. of course the epa and crunchy hippies insist on saving drops of gas over the course of months.
You are welcome my friend. It is another regulation that does nothing but annoy people. Drive safe!
Thanks
I don’t think my 22’ has this. A feature like this belongs in disposable cuvs and sedans, not pickup trucks that are meant to be worked hard.
Our 22 Pathfinder SV has it and it is a PITA!
Hmm I have a 2023 Pro4x and it doesnt have auto start/stop. I didnt even know it was an option 🤣
Interesting. Maybe yours is an earlier 2023 model?? Just guessing. It certainly isn't an option now. Either way, good for you.
Mine is probably a mid to late year '23 P4x and it has this stupid system. Disabled it with the simple plastic wedge piece under the button.
Would changing the switch to a paddle switch that stays in the on or off position work? Or, just jumper the wires behind the switch so they are always connected. Would either of those methods solve the problem?
Either way will work as I stated I jammed a few tie strap ends into the bottom of the switch and for over 2500 miles the system has never activated. You can also remove the back connector and jump a wire between pins 7 signal wire from BCM to pin 5 to ground. When the BCM sees ground on that circuit on pin 5 is shuts the system down!
Agreeeeee... so annoying
I guess using the on -off switch on the dashboard would be to difficult 😣
You'd be absolutely correct if the on off switch stayed off when it's selected. Unfortunately you're wrong. Let me guess, Biden voter??
@@roby14 nope.independent,no biden here.💩 switch stays off until you shut the truck off.
@@eddiehaskell5578 True. When you start the truck you have to hit the switch again. Which is the point. Good luck voting for Nikki. Just having fun with ya.
Language cop warning ticket. That’s “too” not “to”. Yes, I bet this is as annoying as the A.S.S. feature.
This will cause damage , just hit switch
Really?? Can you explain how it causes damage??
I just turn it off everytime I get in the vehicle. There is a button to turn it off.
Everyone knows that. Thamk you.
Yes but occasionally it's easy to forget so when it does activate at a signal light, it can startle you because you're not used to it.
@@RKDriveri think Blue is saying he needs more stress in his life