Y'know what, we've all been there! Credit to you for uploading the video with your mistakes and frustrations and explaining them. This is what it's all about.
Thanks for the ‘real world’ video. Things don’t always go a smoothly as we hope. A lot of videos probably have mistakes edited out to save face. You did your best, you learned a lot, you taught a lot and you eventually got it done right. Much respect to you for being real. No need to apologize for anything. Thumbs up from me👍
We all have bad days in the garage. I figure if my mistakes help someone else then it’s all worth it. Appreciate you watching, commenting and subscribing
Full credit to you. You will be better the next time you do a similar job. It is a good learning experience. You never fully learn everything there is to know in relation to motorcycles. It is a never ending learning curve.
I say kudos to you for leaving the video as is… Warts and all. We've all been there. I'm 55 and I've done it a lot in the past and still do it and I'm sure I will until the day I die… So good for you and thank you for the video. I watched the whole thing.
Couple things: 1. Road 6 is a great all round street tire and I'd be running that on a lot of different bikes, especially an ADV bike that was used primarily for road touring and twisty riding. 2. S22 in FL with it's lack of twisty is useless unless you're going to the track regularly. 3. S22 is amazingly more grippy than a road 6 in dry conditions cornering and I don't know where you'd have felt the tire being loose and squirrelly considering it's rated for upper intermediate track riding conditions where a road 6 or sport tourer will surely lose grip + your tires have wide chicken strips on them(it's FL afterall)so haven't even been fully used + a lot of highway pulls will def get an S22 worn out in 3k or less down the middle. In Cali we have endless miles of smooth twisty of all types and nobody on a sport bike or sport naked out here who is riding hard on them complains about the sport tires like riders in flatlands do due to the less mileage. The reason the bike is equipped with the S22 is because it's a performance bike capable of being way leaned over at a high pace where the S22 shines-- it isn't a cheap or crap "stock tire" it's just a different purpose.
Thanks you for commenting. You are correct in that the S22 is a sport tire instead of the road 6 being more sport touring tire. My issue with the tire getting loose on me was due to the flat spot it developed from my style of riding. the tire had really squared off. Early in the life of the tire I had no issues.
@@haneymoto ah, that'll do it-- I see too many bash comments everywhere on the S22 because it's a common stock tire on performance bikes. Great tire, leaps and bounds over older gen sport tires and commonly on rebate to get sets at up to 40% off but useless for touring/commuting/non aggressive riding. Commonly see tho someone purchases a Fireblade and runs out an S22 in 2k miles from blaster highway pulls and dude says "this tire sucks" when it's eh you bought a 200 hp track bike to commute on and twist the throttle hard sometimes lol...
I have a 2019 mt 09. I replaced the stock tires with the same s22s probably 4 times in the first year.. lol. I live in Delaware and it's COMPLETELY flat with minimal twisties... I ride all year and do about 100 miles every day. The s22s were great tires but just didn't last. I ride pretty relaxed but will rip it from time to time. I then went with shinko, angels and now my last 5 sets have been the road 5s and 6s. I personally think the road 6s are best and last the longest. They feel the best while leaning as well. Nothing wrong with the s22s. They just don't last too long. I don't want to change tires every other month
Great video, subbed, I like to see a guy showing the real world mistakes we all make as we learn, nothing worse than some over edited rubbish that helps no one, you'll love the Road 6, just got a set myself. A little digital caliper is very handy for setting the chain straight.
In the spirit of sharing info to make things easier next time for you and anyone else watching this... The lock nuts don't need to be loosened to remove the chain. Once the axle is removed and wheel is dropped to the ground, roll the wheel forward. This will allow for the chain to be removed from the sprocket without having to reset the chain slack when the wheel is re-installed. Also, if you take a broken-down cardboard box and fold it over a few times you can place it under the rear wheel to easily align the wheel hub with the swingarm. This way you don't need to hoist the wheel while simultaneously aligning the wheel and the swingarm when attempting to insert the axle.
Great video. I have a set of Road 6s ready to go on my 21 MT09 SP too. I'm right around 3000 miles on my S22s and they are getting pretty worn. Only thing I would check on is the chain tightness. Looks a little too tight to me but I don't know how it settled once everything was tightened up. I ran a chain tight like that on my old FZ6 and it cost me an engine after it split the case when the suspension compressed on a big dip in the road. Just a heads up!
The from factory s22 is sticky but it won't last as long as a non oem s22, my from factory rear lasted until 5000km, my next s22 still had tread left when I changed both front and rear at 14,000km with Road 5's
Those tires are so awesome looking! I didn't hear it in the video but did you go with a wider rear tire (like a 190 or 200) or did you stay with the stock 180?
No worries, we've all missed things, not a one of us is perfect. I'm probably going to be putting Road 6s on my 2021 MT-09 this winter, when it's too cold to enjoy the ride.
Thanks Lynn, that’s one thing about south Florida, we are just coming into our prime riding season. 😁
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Hello! Congratulations on the channel and you just gained another subscriber! I have the same bike as you, can you give me feedback on the Road 6 tires after these months? How many miles did you manage to do? I have about 3000 miles and I'm saying goodbye to my S22 🥲
It was actually the shaft that ties the two sliders together that got stuck. I think a combination of tight tolerances and a little road debris caused my issue. I have the wheels off the bike at the moment and have freed up the shaft from the front axle. My plan is to sand it a little to reduce the diameter slightly on the end that got stuck and run a little anti-seize in there when I reassemble it. Appreciate you commenting and watching
Always a pain in the arse getting the rear wheel in the swinging arm. How was the handling on the road 6s compared to the S22 ? Do they have a quick turn in on the road 6s ?
I've been impressed overall with the road 6. I have about 1700 miles on them. The bike handles great and the tires still look new. thanks for watching and commenting
Got 6500mi on Road 6's on my 22' 09SP and they're great. I've done a ton of riding in the rain and dry and the tires are planted. Approaching 10500mi on the MT so far this season.
I pulled the wheels, having Road 6s mounted, should have the wheels back tomorrow. The temperature when I was doing the work, around 60 degrees. I sure that made my work a lot easier than when you did yours!
@@haneymoto what 😧 .. I have done 2000 miles on them and they still look good .. what use did you give them if I could know? and I don't know much about motorcycle tires, do you recommend the tires that you took?
@@antoniosanchez-qk2vm in south Florida we have a lot of long straight roads. The S22 is a softer tire so the long straight roads and Florida heat chews them up quick
I've got a few hundred miles on my road 6's and so far has been great. Keep up the good work on the videos. #smallchannellove #fannypacklyfe #getwaisted
I just passed 2k miles on mine. They still look brand new. Definitely the perfect tire for me. Appreciate the support. The SP is such a great bike. The hardest thing will be continuing to find things to upgrade.
@@haneymoto thx to you as well for the support! And there's about 4 or 5 of you Floridians I've run into now. Lovin' it! I'm trying to work out a Tampa>Miami>Key West ride. You're welcome to join since you're down there. And upgrading stuff on this bike is fun....but, little bit at a time. Expensive hobby. 😆
I always used the road 4 and 5 on my r1. I felt no difference compared to the "high peeformance" tires but these would last 3x as long. Can't beat michelin. And at the end of their life they are still round. Really impressive tire.
If you're just riding in straight lines and light twisty stuff def isn't a difference but if you're going hard and getting that bike leaned over there will be a big difference. The S22 tho for FL I would agree have no purpose lol
Great real Video not sure if they are as bad over your end but i noticed my Pins for front and rear Wheels was dry these should be greased a little every time you change tyres this helps with many things also idea to do same for the sliders too by sound of it... still great video
Side note the Stock S22 that come on the bike are nothing like the Real S22 from shops i am on my 2nd set and there is a noticable difference due to stock ones being less of a grade and normaly less tread front the start
I felt teh same way when I first put it on there. But its been solid and stable. I am considering making a small modification to help it no touch the ABS sensor. Appreciate you watching and commenting.
Didn’t grease the axles. And I’m sure you didn’t do the proper procedure for the front end. Chains probably too tight. You should take it to a shop dude.
Ronald, I appreciate the feedback. Was a frustrating day all around. I'm not perfect but have been wrenching most of my life and feel I always learn something. This was another learning experience.
Y'know what, we've all been there!
Credit to you for uploading the video with your mistakes and frustrations and explaining them.
This is what it's all about.
Appreciate that James. Figured if it helps someone from making the same errors its worth sharing.
Thanks for watching and the feedback
Thanks for the ‘real world’ video. Things don’t always go a smoothly as we hope. A lot of videos probably have mistakes edited out to save face. You did your best, you learned a lot, you taught a lot and you eventually got it done right. Much respect to you for being real. No need to apologize for anything. Thumbs up from me👍
When I was struggling that day I said screw it, if my mistakes help someone that's all that matters.
Thanks for watching and for the comment.
Brilliant real world review and great to see a normal guy being honest and showing his frustrations. We need more videos like this on TH-cam 👍🏻👍🏻🇬🇧👏🏻
Well, I'm starting on a 1981 Honda CX500 scrambler build. so I am sure there will be more.
Appreciate the comment and the support
Subbed. Absolutely PHENOMENAL that you posted the vid, “learning moments” and all.
We all have bad days in the garage. I figure if my mistakes help someone else then it’s all worth it.
Appreciate you watching, commenting and subscribing
Great video. One of my favorites for many reasons but after watching every second……I had to hit the sub button!
Thanks Jay, Appreciate you watching and commenting.
Full credit to you. You will be better the next time you do a similar job. It is a good learning experience. You never fully learn everything there is to know in relation to motorcycles. It is a never ending learning curve.
Thank you, I apprecite that.
At least you had a go and got it done, good on you!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
nice video man! I went from S22s to Road 5s on my fz6r and I fell in love, by far the best tires I ever had
Thank you, appreciate you watching and commenting
I say kudos to you for leaving the video as is… Warts and all. We've all been there. I'm 55 and I've done it a lot in the past and still do it and I'm sure I will until the day I die… So good for you and thank you for the video. I watched the whole thing.
Thanks A R. Appreciate you watching and commenting
Couple things:
1. Road 6 is a great all round street tire and I'd be running that on a lot of different bikes, especially an ADV bike that was used primarily for road touring and twisty riding.
2. S22 in FL with it's lack of twisty is useless unless you're going to the track regularly.
3. S22 is amazingly more grippy than a road 6 in dry conditions cornering and I don't know where you'd have felt the tire being loose and squirrelly considering it's rated for upper intermediate track riding conditions where a road 6 or sport tourer will surely lose grip + your tires have wide chicken strips on them(it's FL afterall)so haven't even been fully used + a lot of highway pulls will def get an S22 worn out in 3k or less down the middle.
In Cali we have endless miles of smooth twisty of all types and nobody on a sport bike or sport naked out here who is riding hard on them complains about the sport tires like riders in flatlands do due to the less mileage. The reason the bike is equipped with the S22 is because it's a performance bike capable of being way leaned over at a high pace where the S22 shines-- it isn't a cheap or crap "stock tire" it's just a different purpose.
Thanks you for commenting. You are correct in that the S22 is a sport tire instead of the road 6 being more sport touring tire.
My issue with the tire getting loose on me was due to the flat spot it developed from my style of riding. the tire had really squared off. Early in the life of the tire I had no issues.
@@haneymoto ah, that'll do it-- I see too many bash comments everywhere on the S22 because it's a common stock tire on performance bikes. Great tire, leaps and bounds over older gen sport tires and commonly on rebate to get sets at up to 40% off but useless for touring/commuting/non aggressive riding.
Commonly see tho someone purchases a Fireblade and runs out an S22 in 2k miles from blaster highway pulls and dude says "this tire sucks" when it's eh you bought a 200 hp track bike to commute on and twist the throttle hard sometimes lol...
I have a 2019 mt 09. I replaced the stock tires with the same s22s probably 4 times in the first year.. lol. I live in Delaware and it's COMPLETELY flat with minimal twisties... I ride all year and do about 100 miles every day.
The s22s were great tires but just didn't last. I ride pretty relaxed but will rip it from time to time. I then went with shinko, angels and now my last 5 sets have been the road 5s and 6s. I personally think the road 6s are best and last the longest. They feel the best while leaning as well. Nothing wrong with the s22s. They just don't last too long. I don't want to change tires every other month
Great video, subbed, I like to see a guy showing the real world mistakes we all make as we learn, nothing worse than some over edited rubbish that helps no one, you'll love the Road 6, just got a set myself. A little digital caliper is very handy for setting the chain straight.
Funny you say that as I picked up a new caliper last week. Thanks for watching and commenting
Keeping it real… making mistakes is part of it… Loved it. Made me subscribe.❤
Figured there is no reason to hide them. I'd rather show them and help someone else from making them.
Appreciate the comment and the support.
In the spirit of sharing info to make things easier next time for you and anyone else watching this... The lock nuts don't need to be loosened to remove the chain. Once the axle is removed and wheel is dropped to the ground, roll the wheel forward. This will allow for the chain to be removed from the sprocket without having to reset the chain slack when the wheel is re-installed. Also, if you take a broken-down cardboard box and fold it over a few times you can place it under the rear wheel to easily align the wheel hub with the swingarm. This way you don't need to hoist the wheel while simultaneously aligning the wheel and the swingarm when attempting to insert the axle.
Great tips. Thank you for sharing.
Appreciate you watching and commenting.
I always enjoy your videos and I also learn stuff! Thank you bro!
Glad you like them. Appreciate you watching and the feedback.
Great video. I have a set of Road 6s ready to go on my 21 MT09 SP too. I'm right around 3000 miles on my S22s and they are getting pretty worn. Only thing I would check on is the chain tightness. Looks a little too tight to me but I don't know how it settled once everything was tightened up. I ran a chain tight like that on my old FZ6 and it cost me an engine after it split the case when the suspension compressed on a big dip in the road. Just a heads up!
Yeah a tight chain will destroy a bike quick. Knew a guy that blew up his dirt bike running a chain too tight.
Appreciate you watching and commenting
The from factory s22 is sticky but it won't last as long as a non oem s22, my from factory rear lasted until 5000km, my next s22 still had tread left when I changed both front and rear at 14,000km with Road 5's
@@mikehoskin1674 thats interesting. Appreciate you sharing the information. So far I am happy with the road 6. Seems to fit my riding style better.
Those tires are so awesome looking! I didn't hear it in the video but did you go with a wider rear tire (like a 190 or 200) or did you stay with the stock 180?
Hey Lupe, I stayed with the stock tire size front and rear. Thanks for watching
No worries, we've all missed things, not a one of us is perfect.
I'm probably going to be putting Road 6s on my 2021 MT-09 this winter, when it's too cold to enjoy the ride.
Thanks Lynn, that’s one thing about south Florida, we are just coming into our prime riding season. 😁
Hello! Congratulations on the channel and you just gained another subscriber!
I have the same bike as you, can you give me feedback on the Road 6 tires after these months? How many miles did you manage to do?
I have about 3000 miles and I'm saying goodbye to my S22 🥲
6k miles so far and the rear still has 1-2k miles left. The front still looks new.
Appreciate you watching, commenting and subscribing
What do you think was the reason of the bolts seizing up on the front slider? Any way to avoid it? Anti seize grease maybe?
It was actually the shaft that ties the two sliders together that got stuck. I think a combination of tight tolerances and a little road debris caused my issue. I have the wheels off the bike at the moment and have freed up the shaft from the front axle. My plan is to sand it a little to reduce the diameter slightly on the end that got stuck and run a little anti-seize in there when I reassemble it.
Appreciate you commenting and watching
Real World video, briliant
Thank you. Never hide my mistakes. Hope it will help others not make the same ones
Always a pain in the arse getting the rear wheel in the swinging arm.
How was the handling on the road 6s compared to the S22 ? Do they have a quick turn in on the road 6s ?
I've been impressed overall with the road 6. I have about 1700 miles on them. The bike handles great and the tires still look new.
thanks for watching and commenting
Got 6500mi on Road 6's on my 22' 09SP and they're great. I've done a ton of riding in the rain and dry and the tires are planted. Approaching 10500mi on the MT so far this season.
Good to hear
I pulled the wheels, having Road 6s mounted, should have the wheels back tomorrow.
The temperature when I was doing the work, around 60 degrees. I sure that made my work a lot easier than when you did yours!
Yeah it’s always hot in south FL. 😁.
Appreciate you watching and commenting
How are you liking those new Road 6s by now? I might put some on my 17 FJ09
They’ve been great. Have about 1800 miles on them now and they still look new
I place tape on the rim where the rachet might touch the rim. Red Green's duck tape is soooo goood!!
Good tip.
Thanks for watching and commenting
good night, a question, I just got the same bike! I would like to know on average how many miles did the S22 tires last you?
about 2800 miles and it was shot.
@@haneymoto what 😧 .. I have done 2000 miles on them and they still look good .. what use did you give them if I could know? and I don't know much about motorcycle tires, do you recommend the tires that you took?
@@antoniosanchez-qk2vm in south Florida we have a lot of long straight roads. The S22 is a softer tire so the long straight roads and Florida heat chews them up quick
We’ve all been there! I plan on powder coating mine after I get a few scratches. The paint is very thin on these wheels!
Yeah I was surprised how delicate it was.
Thanks for watchign and commenting.
Just Subbed... Fellow MT-09 owner
Appreciate that. Thanks for watching
I've got a few hundred miles on my road 6's and so far has been great. Keep up the good work on the videos. #smallchannellove #fannypacklyfe #getwaisted
I just passed 2k miles on mine. They still look brand new. Definitely the perfect tire for me.
Appreciate the support. The SP is such a great bike. The hardest thing will be continuing to find things to upgrade.
@@haneymoto thx to you as well for the support! And there's about 4 or 5 of you Floridians I've run into now. Lovin' it! I'm trying to work out a Tampa>Miami>Key West ride. You're welcome to join since you're down there. And upgrading stuff on this bike is fun....but, little bit at a time. Expensive hobby. 😆
I always used the road 4 and 5 on my r1. I felt no difference compared to the "high peeformance" tires but these would last 3x as long. Can't beat michelin. And at the end of their life they are still round. Really impressive tire.
Yeah my brother has the road 5 on his super hawk. He was happy with them so I decided on the road 6. Great tire
If you're just riding in straight lines and light twisty stuff def isn't a difference but if you're going hard and getting that bike leaned over there will be a big difference. The S22 tho for FL I would agree have no purpose lol
Thanks man 👍 good video helps us not make the same mistakes
Yeah figured if I could prevent one person from screwing up then it was worth it. Appreciate you watching and commenting
What tyre pressure are you running
I run 36 psi front and 42 psi rear.
Great real Video not sure if they are as bad over your end but i noticed my Pins for front and rear Wheels was dry these should be greased a little every time you change tyres this helps with many things also idea to do same for the sliders too by sound of it... still great video
Side note the Stock S22 that come on the bike are nothing like the Real S22 from shops i am on my 2nd set and there is a noticable difference due to stock ones being less of a grade and normaly less tread front the start
Hi, your front stand doesn't look very secure. I jack my bike up under the motor.
I felt teh same way when I first put it on there. But its been solid and stable. I am considering making a small modification to help it no touch the ABS sensor.
Appreciate you watching and commenting.
Great video! Keep them coming! Love your work on the MT09, looking sexy!!!!! Ride safe!
Thanks Yari. Appreciate it
nice video... love videos with mistakes in them as we all make them!!!
Glad you enjoyed it. Appriectaie you commentig and watching.
No reason to loosen the chain adjuster, simply loosen the axle nut & pull the axle out.
I always found it easier to get the wheel back on with the chain loose.
@@haneymoto Fair enough, whatever works for you!
Funny how ppl don't know anything about motorcycle mechanics and then decide to make a video about it.
Yeah it was a bad day for me. I do know a few things as I have been working on my own stuff for most of my life.
And? Verdict?
Tires have been great. about 6k miles and they still have 1-2k miles left in the rear. Front still looks new.
Appreciate you watching and commenting
@@haneymoto Having the exact same situation, so i'm looking at the road 6 myself, thanks for the feedback!
Didn’t grease the axles. And I’m sure you didn’t do the proper procedure for the front end. Chains probably too tight. You should take it to a shop dude.
Ronald, I appreciate the feedback. Was a frustrating day all around. I'm not perfect but have been wrenching most of my life and feel I always learn something. This was another learning experience.
Wrong position pleas set the back caliper in the slide to the svingarm!
Yeah I corrected it the next day.
Should get 10,000 miles + out of those mate 👍🏻
That would be great
Florida? You need to trade that triple in for a scooter.
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That thing u called rubber is cupling rubber........
Appreciate the information. Now the next time or of I need to replace it I’ll know the proper name. Thank you for watching and commenting
The caliper back are in rong position
Yes it was. I double-checked everything the next day and corrected it before riding. Appreciate the feedback