@@anthonywhite599 So was Hudson but no one complains about him. Even though he was a marine and trained to be a fighter. Mean while Lambert was a navigator and wasn’t trained to face these kinds of situations. Not hating on Hudson. He’s a great character. But we ought to be fair and see the similarities between the two, as well as differences. Both were probably the most realistic for their open fear and concern for their lives.
Great scene - Weaver shows the quintessential strong woman in Ripley who's got it together in a high stress situation. Cartwright shows the vulnerable kind of woman in Lambert who lets her emotions get to her. Awesome actresses and casting!
In a real way, Lambert was the "heart" of the crew and Ripley was the "brain." The others, even Dallas, were just so far out of their depth they were lost in the deep blue sea. And every one of them knew it, which was why Lambert was falling to pieces. Lambert reacted as any emotionally sensitive person would react in such a horrible situation.
If I remember back when I first read the ALIEN book of the movie, I think this is the first indication to us that Ripley suspects Ash isn't quite as he seems. She can't put her finger on it, but something is bugging her about him, and asking Lambert if she slept with him didn't imply that the two women on board were whoring around with the crew - but that Ash's lack of interest and emotion in any circumstance/situation up 'til now was flashing a warning to her.
i know this is 11 years ild, but i think its worth pointing out that this may have been a holdover form a earlier version fo the script where they did "slept around" in fact i believe it was most of the crew that was sexually active
That scene, like many others, actually appears in the official novel. It's kinda odd but it's still something that I missed in the original cut from the film: Some sort of friendship between Lambert and Ripley. They seem to care for each other in some way and that is more noticeable in the original script or the official novel.
"Well... no. I've been fucking Parker, Cain and Brett on a permanent rotation while Dallas has been sticking it to you. But nobody's fucking Ash. Hmm. I guess that IS a bit suspicious." Ah, the '70s.
Such an excellent deleted scene I would have really left it in the movie it really helps with some foreshadowing that somethings is seriously wrong with Ash
In the original script it was established that promiscuity was the norm in deep space flights. There was a scene between Ripley and Dallas where they go to bed; not filmed although a screen test version of it exists. Once this establishing scene was removed, the scene with Ripley asking Lambert if she slept with Ash might seem a bit weird to audiences. But the point of it was that sexual promiscuity is so normal in the future that to abstain from it could mark a person out as potentially abnormal. Saturn3 and Logan's Run, other sci-fis from around the same era took similar approaches.
I guess this scene was deleted because it hinted at too much promiscuity between the crew members, not to mention two women who slept around. That was in 1979. Nowadays, such a scene probably would be retained, except that Ripley would be asking both Lambert AND Parker if either one of them had slept with Ash!
Parker did hint having something sexual with Lambert when he said something about eating "something else" while looking at Lambert (for which she was laughing or smiling about it) this while they had dinner right before the chest burst happened.
brilliant scene. always considered carwright to be a very underrated abd under used actress. ythis was a touching and powerful scene. lambert was really the character that represented that element of true fear. heart pounding fear! great scene! should never have been deleted!
This scene makes Ripley to be "the good girl" and the one who "deserves" to be the survivor, which doesn't make sense in a movie where you are not supposed to know which one is going to be killed next. By deleting it, it keeps an uneasy tension between the two women, which is much more apropriate.
@@conatcha absolute drivel. The uneasy tension was due to the earlier scene of Ripley refusing enrty to the Nostromo when Lambert & Dallas brought Kane back - resulting in their cat fight. This scene gave them reconciliation of sorts. It doesn't make Ripley out to be the 'good girl', it does expand our sympathy for Lambert & shows more weight to her 'losing it' under a highly stressful situation, in fact it almost adds to her stress - adding the complication of Ash. A 2 second cut at the end of this scene was added to the directors cut. Acting wise - this is the best scene in the movie.
@@muthamucka9009 absolute BS. What is the point in inserting a cheerful reconciliation scene talking about sex in the middle of an horrifying situation? All the characters in the movie are faced up to each other for different reasons, there is no point in team some of them up, much less the two only women of the group. By deleting this scene Ripley and Lambert are still uneasy about each other which is the right mood at this point of the movie. Apart from revealing that Ash is not what he looks to be. What is the only difference added in the DC? You can see the distressed face of Lambert a bit more. And remember: cutting this scene was the choice of the director, both in the theatrical and Director's Cut. "this is the best scene in the movie"... give me a break.
@@conatcha I was unaware that I called/insinuated it a 'cheerful reconciliation'..? It's as I said originally - a reconciliation of sorts. The tension between the women still exists throughout the scene (and continues in the next deleted scene -airlock sequence 1). It's hardly a 'girly chin-wag' to be inserted just so we see 'girl-time'. The scene actually adds to the stress lambert is under, as you yourself stated - why add a scene talking about sex in such a serious situation? Lambert herself, literally askes "why?" Because Ripley's sussing Ash out. This scene would've added more to Lambert's character - at little expense of 'pacing', showing her anxiety come to the forefront. Oversight on my part - it's not the greatest scene, but it's certainly the most well acted scene in the movie. He may have not kept it in the movie - but he still added that x2 second scene - and he also included two differently shot versions of the scene, which he deigned to include in the different versions of dvd/blu ray releases. There, you've had your break.
@@muthamucka9009 Really, dude, go discuss that with the Mr. Scott himself, ok? Good luck in convincing him that he made an huge error in his own movie by deleting this "great" scene. Bye!
it is a GREAT scene mate. i never understood why this was deleted. great chemistry between weaver and a VERY underrated cartwright. i love love love this scene. and of a cast of 7 the women were the last 2 alive.
This scene makes Ripley to be "the good girl" and the one who "deserves" to be the survivor, which doesn't make sense in a movie where you are not supposed to know which one is going to be killed next. By deleting it keeps an uneasy tension between the two women, which is more apropriate.
This scene makes Ripley to be "the good girl" and the one who "deserves" to be the survivor, which doesn't make sense in a movie where you are not supposed to know which one is going to be killed next. By deleting it, it keeps an uneasy tension between the two women, which is much more apropriate.
This scene makes Ripley to be "the good girl" and the one who "deserves" to be the survivor, which doesn't make sense in a movie where you are not supposed to know which one is going to be killed next. By deleting it, it keeps an uneasy tension between the two women, which is much more apropriate.
@javaxsqft The comment that was tied to this deleted scene on the dvd stated the intention of this scene was to show a casual approach toward sex in the future.
@Fersomling ,it is the 20th anniversay edition which came before the one from the Alien Quadrilogy Box set. That one also has all these alternate soundtracks (including the full Jerry Goldsmith score and other alternate cues), and an easter egg in the form of bios of the crew members.
@incrediblehulkmovies They just lost their captain, and 2 others before him. And Lambert seems more sensitive than the others. She probably asked her that to get her mind off it and lighten the mood.
In the original script it is Ripley who has sex with Dallas. They make love in some kind of blister and they are interrupted by Kane's body floating outside.
It’s an interesting acknowledgement that long-range deep space missions will inevitably have fraternizing among the crew. It’s probably even psychologically healthy and optimal for crew sanity and mission success, and explicitly approved by mission control, even the promiscuous/polyamorous nature of it. Can’t have anyone feeling left out or neglected. The movie _The Martian_ with Matt Damon had this too, with two of crew sleeping with each other, though they were more discreet about it.
I thought this was a dope scene. You are on a ship for damn near 5 years or more you are fucking. the mere fact that Ash ain't fuck no one. screams something is wrong.
Nope. This scene would have turned Ripley into the good hero girl, and therefore the best character to survive, and that is not what the scriptwriters wanted the audience to think. The original cut of this scene leaves an unresolved tension between both characters, which is much more appropriate with the upcoming events in the movie.
An odd scene, best it was left on the cutting room floor. I like Lambert's character (and Veronica Cartwright) but we didn't need another crying scene.from her.
I think it's just part of her character, I mean one of the ideas of how she was to die was her to be so scared of the xenomorph that she had a heart attack.. This scene works in my opinion.
This scene makes Ripley to be "the good girl" and the one who "deserves" to be the survivor, which doesn't make sense in a movie where you are not supposed to know which one is going to be killed next. By deleting it, it keeps an uneasy tension between the two women, which is much more apropriate.
Naomi Watts would be a perfect choice to play Lambert in an Alien back in day because she is a blonde-haired and blue-eyed english actress as the original Lambert Veronica Cartwright.
What is the point in inserting a cheerful reconciliation scene taking about sex in the middle of an horrifying situation? All the characters in the movie are faced up to each other for different reasons, there is no point in team some of them up, much less the two only women of the group. By deleting this scene Ripley and Lambert are still uneasy about each other which is the right mood at this point of the movie. Apart from revealing that Ash is not what he looks to be. What is the only difference added in the DC? You can see the distressed face of Lambert a bit more. And remember: cutting this scene was the choice of the director, both in the theatrical and Director's Cut.
Wow, two beautiful women there. In my fantasies (back in 1979) I saved them both from that narsty alien, but then I couldn't choose between them so it was a glorious three-way all the way back to earth. For my money THAT would have been a better sequel than what we got. :D
Poor Lambert :( always wanted to give her a hug.
Zombihamster she was s cry baby. .
@@anthonywhite599 So was Hudson but no one complains about him. Even though he was a marine and trained to be a fighter. Mean while Lambert was a navigator and wasn’t trained to face these kinds of situations. Not hating on Hudson. He’s a great character. But we ought to be fair and see the similarities between the two, as well as differences. Both were probably the most realistic for their open fear and concern for their lives.
@@anthonywhite599 No, she wasn't. She was the majority of us and Veronica Cartwright is a HIGHLY underrated and wonderful actress.
She won a saturn for her performance
Great scene - Weaver shows the quintessential strong woman in Ripley who's got it together in a high stress situation. Cartwright shows the vulnerable kind of woman in Lambert who lets her emotions get to her. Awesome actresses and casting!
In a real way, Lambert was the "heart" of the crew and Ripley was the "brain." The others, even Dallas, were just so far out of their depth they were lost in the deep blue sea. And every one of them knew it, which was why Lambert was falling to pieces. Lambert reacted as any emotionally sensitive person would react in such a horrible situation.
That was completely out of left field. Lambert's reaction was precisely mine though.
If I remember back when I first read the ALIEN book of the movie, I think this is the first indication to us that Ripley suspects Ash isn't quite as he seems. She can't put her finger on it, but something is bugging her about him, and asking Lambert if she slept with him didn't imply that the two women on board were whoring around with the crew - but that Ash's lack of interest and emotion in any circumstance/situation up 'til now was flashing a warning to her.
i know this is 11 years ild, but i think its worth pointing out that this may have been a holdover form a earlier version fo the script where they did "slept around" in fact i believe it was most of the crew that was sexually active
Yes. Good call.
Ripley suspects that Ashe is not what he seems to be, and she's fishing for clues...seems obvious to me.
That scene, like many others, actually appears in the official novel. It's kinda odd but it's still something that I missed in the original cut from the film: Some sort of friendship between Lambert and Ripley. They seem to care for each other in some way and that is more noticeable in the original script or the official novel.
"Well... no. I've been fucking Parker, Cain and Brett on a permanent rotation while Dallas has been sticking it to you. But nobody's fucking Ash. Hmm. I guess that IS a bit suspicious." Ah, the '70s.
My boy Brett got some too 😎
@@visionist7Harry Dean Stanton had that sort of “Strong Silent Texan Cowboy” charm.
I like this bit, it's one of the cuts that isn't overly long and adds a little something.
Such an excellent deleted scene I would have really left it in the movie it really helps with some foreshadowing that somethings is seriously wrong with Ash
In the original script it was established that promiscuity was the norm in deep space flights. There was a scene between Ripley and Dallas where they go to bed; not filmed although a screen test version of it exists. Once this establishing scene was removed, the scene with Ripley asking Lambert if she slept with Ash might seem a bit weird to audiences. But the point of it was that sexual promiscuity is so normal in the future that to abstain from it could mark a person out as potentially abnormal. Saturn3 and Logan's Run, other sci-fis from around the same era took similar approaches.
I guess this scene was deleted because it hinted at too much promiscuity between the crew members, not to mention two women who slept around. That was in 1979. Nowadays, such a scene probably would be retained, except that Ripley would be asking both Lambert AND Parker if either one of them had slept with Ash!
LMAO.
well Ridley Scott said if he could he would have indicated that everyone were casual about sleeping with each other regardless of gender.
She suspected hes not what he pretended to be and shes trying to verify it
You haven’t got a clue
And Parker would have said "Look let's discuss the bonus situation. Now if you give me more money, I'll sleep with Ash".
Parker did hint having something sexual with Lambert when he said something about eating "something else" while looking at Lambert (for which she was laughing or smiling about it) this while they had dinner right before the chest burst happened.
brilliant scene. always considered carwright to be a very underrated abd under used actress. ythis was a touching and powerful scene. lambert was really the character that represented that element of true fear. heart pounding fear! great scene! should never have been deleted!
They should've kept it in there, it really seems to develop lambert a character
This scene makes Ripley to be "the good girl" and the one who "deserves" to be the survivor, which doesn't make sense in a movie where you are not supposed to know which one is going to be killed next. By deleting it, it keeps an uneasy tension between the two women, which is much more apropriate.
@@conatcha absolute drivel. The uneasy tension was due to the earlier scene of Ripley refusing enrty to the Nostromo when Lambert & Dallas brought Kane back - resulting in their cat fight. This scene gave them reconciliation of sorts. It doesn't make Ripley out to be the 'good girl', it does expand our sympathy for Lambert & shows more weight to her 'losing it' under a highly stressful situation, in fact it almost adds to her stress - adding the complication of Ash. A 2 second cut at the end of this scene was added to the directors cut. Acting wise - this is the best scene in the movie.
@@muthamucka9009 absolute BS. What is the point in inserting a cheerful reconciliation scene talking about sex in the middle of an horrifying situation? All the characters in the movie are faced up to each other for different reasons, there is no point in team some of them up, much less the two only women of the group. By deleting this scene Ripley and Lambert are still uneasy about each other which is the right mood at this point of the movie. Apart from revealing that Ash is not what he looks to be. What is the only difference added in the DC? You can see the distressed face of Lambert a bit more. And remember: cutting this scene was the choice of the director, both in the theatrical and Director's Cut. "this is the best scene in the movie"... give me a break.
@@conatcha I was unaware that I called/insinuated it a 'cheerful reconciliation'..? It's as I said originally - a reconciliation of sorts. The tension between the women still exists throughout the scene (and continues in the next deleted scene -airlock sequence 1). It's hardly a 'girly chin-wag' to be inserted just so we see 'girl-time'. The scene actually adds to the stress lambert is under, as you yourself stated - why add a scene talking about sex in such a serious situation? Lambert herself, literally askes "why?" Because Ripley's sussing Ash out. This scene would've added more to Lambert's character - at little expense of 'pacing', showing her anxiety come to the forefront. Oversight on my part - it's not the greatest scene, but it's certainly the most well acted scene in the movie. He may have not kept it in the movie - but he still added that x2 second scene - and he also included two differently shot versions of the scene, which he deigned to include in the different versions of dvd/blu ray releases. There, you've had your break.
@@muthamucka9009 Really, dude, go discuss that with the Mr. Scott himself, ok? Good luck in convincing him that he made an huge error in his own movie by deleting this "great" scene. Bye!
It's the mark of a good filmmaker to recognize extraneous scenes and cut them out of the film.
Synths don't need hyper sleep, so that's why Ripley hasn't yet suspected he is a synth.
thats some great 70s quality
If you think that's good you should watch 2001.
+Freddie Honywill that was in 1968 I think.
+Freddie Honywill that was in 1968 I think.
While this scene may not be strictly plot-essential, I really wish they'd left it in. It's a nice character moment for Ripley and Lambert.😞
Sigourney was so beautiful
Yes :D
* is
She still is, and she's in her early 70s.
it is a GREAT scene mate. i never understood why this was deleted. great chemistry between weaver and a VERY underrated cartwright. i love love love this scene. and of a cast of 7 the women were the last 2 alive.
This scene makes Ripley to be "the good girl" and the one who "deserves" to be the survivor, which doesn't make sense in a movie where you are not supposed to know which one is going to be killed next. By deleting it keeps an uneasy tension between the two women, which is more apropriate.
This scene makes Ripley to be "the good girl" and the one who "deserves" to be the survivor, which doesn't make sense in a movie where you are not supposed to know which one is going to be killed next. By deleting it, it keeps an uneasy tension between the two women, which is much more apropriate.
This scene makes Ripley to be "the good girl" and the one who "deserves" to be the survivor, which doesn't make sense in a movie where you are not supposed to know which one is going to be killed next. By deleting it, it keeps an uneasy tension between the two women, which is much more apropriate.
@javaxsqft The comment that was tied to this deleted scene on the dvd stated the intention of this scene was to show a casual approach toward sex in the future.
@Fersomling ,it is the 20th anniversay edition which came before the one from the Alien Quadrilogy Box set. That one also has all these alternate soundtracks (including the full Jerry Goldsmith score and other alternate cues), and an easter egg in the form of bios of the crew members.
@incrediblehulkmovies
They just lost their captain, and 2 others before him. And Lambert seems more sensitive than the others. She probably asked her that to get her mind off it and lighten the mood.
Lambert and Dallas were involved. That's why she was so emotional in comparison to Brett's death.
Imanualaha Shim’onwan yeah I think she even called him honey at one point
In the original script it is Ripley who has sex with Dallas. They make love in some kind of blister and they are interrupted by Kane's body floating outside.
@@conatcha Dallas was fcuking them both, hence the tension between them
@psychonaut25 This scene is in the graphic novel version and was supposed to be part of Ripley figuring out that Ash was an android
This scene seems like a foreshadow to discovering that Ash is a android. It asks the question "is Ash human?". Well, we find out later on.
The best reason for cutting this otherwise good scene is that it would have made the already horrible slaughter of Lambert unbearable.
It’s an interesting acknowledgement that long-range deep space missions will inevitably have fraternizing among the crew. It’s probably even psychologically healthy and optimal for crew sanity and mission success, and explicitly approved by mission control, even the promiscuous/polyamorous nature of it. Can’t have anyone feeling left out or neglected. The movie _The Martian_ with Matt Damon had this too, with two of crew sleeping with each other, though they were more discreet about it.
It may not have been what they were trying to imply, but it's definitely there for those who want to see it (and maybe some who don't).
Glad this was cut. The quiet paranoia and mistrust among the crew gave the perfect vibe for this movie
Exactly
ok buddy@@conatcha
i remembered her in the birds
Wait, is she the little girl in it?!
she should have kissed her to reassure her.
Put your dick back in your pants
i actually like this scene
Thank god they cut this scene out
Now, what's the name of the DVD that has all of the deleted scenes, plus all the original ones? That's the one I wanna buy.
Nah, Now it looks like a soup . These cuts were correctly edited out.
I thought this was a dope scene. You are on a ship for damn near 5 years or more you are fucking. the mere fact that Ash ain't fuck no one. screams something is wrong.
This scene must have been in the movie
Nope. This scene would have turned Ripley into the good hero girl, and therefore the best character to survive, and that is not what the scriptwriters wanted the audience to think.
The original cut of this scene leaves an unresolved tension between both characters, which is much more appropriate with the upcoming events in the movie.
Funny. The scene is in the Comic album for the film. I always wondered where that part came from.
I like this scene and wish it was in the film.
An odd scene, best it was left on the cutting room floor. I like Lambert's character (and Veronica Cartwright) but we didn't need another crying scene.from her.
I think it's just part of her character, I mean one of the ideas of how she was to die was her to be so scared of the xenomorph that she had a heart attack.. This scene works in my opinion.
Why is it certain men have a huge problem with women crying? I'm seeing this as well with ST Discovery. It's REALLY strange.
@@tulinfirenze1990 I don't have a problem. But it's demeaning to Veronica Cartwright's talent to have her be so weak.
Patjing02, WHERE DID YOU GET THIS CLIP?!? Amazing. Thank you. : )
This scene makes Ripley to be "the good girl" and the one who "deserves" to be the survivor, which doesn't make sense in a movie where you are not supposed to know which one is going to be killed next. By deleting it, it keeps an uneasy tension between the two women, which is much more apropriate.
Naomi Watts would be a perfect choice to play Lambert in an Alien back in day because she is a blonde-haired and blue-eyed english actress as the original Lambert Veronica Cartwright.
Am I only, that didn't understand the sense of Ripley's question?
@Fersomling
Alien Quadrilogy box 4 DVD digitally mastered edition
Holy shit, could this be some character development?
Tis would've been a cool addition to the movie.
RipleyXLamber FTW! xD
Today, Ripley would have to ask Parker if he ever slept with Ash.
Right? Because homosexuality never existed in 1979. 🙄
Well it did, but it wasn't acknowledged as much in popular entertainment. I assume you've read history books?
Oh you know.
@Khultan Wait, what?
Not Bishop. Oops.
Ash being an android, Ripley and Lambert just wern't his type, lol!?
@tourdeforce17 What you're not considering, which is typically male(?), is the background of each man. Jeez...
Does anyone else think Parker and Brett were lovers?
They were what?!🤯
The casual sex is an interesting idea....especially considering there's 5 guys and only 2 girls on the ship :P
@patjng02 : Choice, excellent, and sweet!
What is the point in inserting a cheerful reconciliation scene taking about sex in the middle of an horrifying situation? All the characters in the movie are faced up to each other for different reasons, there is no point in team some of them up, much less the two only women of the group. By deleting this scene Ripley and Lambert are still uneasy about each other which is the right mood at this point of the movie. Apart from revealing that Ash is not what he looks to be. What is the only difference added in the DC? You can see the distressed face of Lambert a bit more. And remember: cutting this scene was the choice of the director, both in the theatrical and Director's Cut.
Wow, two beautiful women there. In my fantasies (back in 1979) I saved them both from that narsty alien, but then I couldn't choose between them so it was a glorious three-way all the way back to earth. For my money THAT would have been a better sequel than what we got. :D
The reassuring should have been longer..I sense something lesbian in this scene...