You mean what sort of government. That would be the idiots with PPE and humanities degrees that most people seem only too keen to elect. You only need your fingers to count the number of MPs with science, technology or maths degrees!
All these green jobs don’t you just love it 😊 and before you blame brexit , Germany as announced they are shutting down there steel factories, blaming high energy prices 😮
@peterholden3672 green energy madness I’d say same for Germany if I’m honest , we have to meet our climate net zero target , can’t do that using lots of energy making steel
I wonder if the government ever really does its sums properly: I somehow doubt it. How often does the lower cost of importing something outweigh the cost of benefits for those who are no longer working? Also, how important is it not to be dependent on overseas suppliers? Of course, if the government, or rather us taxpayers, bails something out then it should not be left in the hands of foreign owners.
This is ridiculous, production of steel from iron ore is a vital strategic industry without the ability to produce our own steel from ore we cease to have any ability to be independent and become reliant upon imports from foreign nations. The government needs to step in and take over these furnaces and keep steel production going as a matter of national security
The government should take it over as its remaining open is in the countries best interest, especially in the present potential war climate. We cannot be dependant on foreign imports.
I tend to agree. But one of the main reasons governments of both parties hate nationalised services and industries is that it means they have to deal directly with striking unions.
It's losing one million pounds a day and I suspect that any UK government would hesitate to take on that burden. I'm surprised that Tata hasn't donated it to the UK government and simply walked away.
Trouble in the uk is this government has made it so expensive to live , every commodity produced here is way over the top on price compared to China , India . It’s cheaper to import . Any thing not making money , send it abroad to be produced and them import it . That’s why the steel industry shut . We do not invest in our own people what do you expect , we are heading for one of the richest countries with the poorest people
Hopefully I've got my sums right: 0.041% amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, of which 3% is from humans. That's 0.00123%. The UK accounts for 1% of human CO2 emissions worldwide, so that's 0.0000123. Port Talbot emits 3%, so it accounts for 0.000000369% in worldwide CO2 emissions. Basically, it's a drop in the ocean for CO2 if Port Talbot remains opens. Particularly as China is building a new coal fired power station each week (on average).
Meanwhile China is building 2 coal fired power stations a week ,and laughing it's arse off at the gullibility and stupidity of UK politicians bowing down to their corporate masters.
What sort of a country hands critical industries over to foreign hands in the first place . Utter madness .
You mean what sort of government. That would be the idiots with PPE and humanities degrees that most people seem only too keen to elect. You only need your fingers to count the number of MPs with science, technology or maths degrees!
And they expect a war what will we do with no steel
All these green jobs don’t you just love it 😊 and before you blame brexit , Germany as announced they are shutting down there steel factories, blaming high energy prices 😮
@peterholden3672 green energy madness I’d say same for Germany if I’m honest , we have to meet our climate net zero target , can’t do that using lots of energy making steel
Not a stable job left in Britain it’s criminal.
Plenty more to go and in eu 😮 sending our carbon abroad to meet net zero targets, so plenty of green jobs but there in China
I wonder if the government ever really does its sums properly: I somehow doubt it. How often does the lower cost of importing something outweigh the cost of benefits for those who are no longer working? Also, how important is it not to be dependent on overseas suppliers?
Of course, if the government, or rather us taxpayers, bails something out then it should not be left in the hands of foreign owners.
Great let's import all our steel that great for the environment well done.
This is ridiculous, production of steel from iron ore is a vital strategic industry without the ability to produce our own steel from ore we cease to have any ability to be independent and become reliant upon imports from foreign nations.
The government needs to step in and take over these furnaces and keep steel production going as a matter of national security
Closed the mines. Now the Steel works. Just have to go back to raking cockles?
The government should take it over as its remaining open is in the countries best interest, especially in the present potential war climate. We cannot be dependant on foreign imports.
I tend to agree. But one of the main reasons governments of both parties hate nationalised services and industries is that it means they have to deal directly with striking unions.
It's losing one million pounds a day and I suspect that any UK government would hesitate to take on that burden. I'm surprised that Tata hasn't donated it to the UK government
and simply walked away.
Trouble in the uk is this government has made it so expensive to live , every commodity produced here is way over the top on price compared to China , India . It’s cheaper to import . Any thing not making money , send it abroad to be produced and them import it . That’s why the steel industry shut . We do not invest in our own people what do you expect , we are heading for one of the richest countries with the poorest people
Well, at least the vegetation that has suffered from acid rain, will get a break.
Hopefully I've got my sums right:
0.041% amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, of which 3% is from humans. That's 0.00123%.
The UK accounts for 1% of human CO2 emissions worldwide, so that's 0.0000123. Port Talbot emits 3%, so it accounts for 0.000000369% in worldwide CO2 emissions.
Basically, it's a drop in the ocean for CO2 if Port Talbot remains opens. Particularly as China is building a new coal fired power station each week (on average).
Meanwhile China is building 2 coal fired power stations a week ,and laughing it's arse off at the gullibility and stupidity of UK politicians bowing down to their corporate masters.
What is the cost of electricity for the ark furnace no way will it happen
The country is sitting on coal n iron ore, surrounded by seas full of fish………
Should never go on strike what can you say
highest energy prices in europe
Well vhe unions wanted net zero. Well here it is. Be careful what you wish for.