One thing I love about Orks is that their guns and vehicles are so vague and silly that you can kinda represent them with anything. A "Grot Blasta" has been represented in the models with a blunderbuss, a pistol, a slingshot, and even a thrown stick-bomb... Just as long as you capture the idea of: "Can potentially inflict damage at a distance," then it counts.
You know those "doctrine purist / rebel and function purist / rebel" charts some people make memes with? Orks live in the "doctrine and function rebel" side of those charts.
Back in 5th ed., during out budding wargaming club days; we ran a campaign where we started with a Planetstrike mission, then had some 3 regular Battle Missions matches, finally culminating on a big Apocalypse game that only really combined every player's armies on 2 sides for a big collective orgy of gratuitious violence match. While my side had discussed aggressive tactics, my Iron Warriors were the only ones to roll ahead to take objective points while the other players on my side bunkered up. That match was ended with my ork ally Shokking my objective-sitting Noise Marines (sic) after some lovely rolls. That ended up swinging the match to the other teams side, as we had no other units able to reach it, while a bunch of Eldar Harlequins rushed to take the vacant objective. While cursing the ork sudden yet inevitable betrayal, it was great fun and the tale remains told occasionally by us greybeard grumblers. Love the channel, great episode!
It is Halloween when snotling poo is talked about. Though the gun sucks off snotlings, there is no euphemism there, none at all, how dare you for suggesting that sucking off snotlings is a euphemism... fnar fnar.
You know a weapon is cool when it can get an entire episode! And thank you for the live action demonstration, you guys look like you had tons of fun doing it.
@@christopheraaron1255 I mean there are loads of books, boxes and magazines for them to cover. This was easily the most interesting weapon they could look at so I think it's a good episode.
Alright, you got me with the (incredibly cursed) linger on the (equally cursed) 'inviting dark hole' quote. ...and then again with Wib's intense : [ expression during the live-action deminstration.
My friends and I once had an apocalypse game of I think 7th ed that lasted a weekend and halfway through the first day we ran out of blast templates because of all the vortexes we created. This did cause us to pause the game for an hour until we made from from some cereal boxes with most of the time being spent trying to find a compass. That was also a game where much to my friends great amusement every single one of my minis armed with a plasma weapon died from their weapons overheating due to me rolling 1's.
You missed one! There was a relic SAG from one of the 8th edition campaign books (I think it was one of the vigilus ones) that was even killier but was only available in a specific battle formation. I remember this because someone at my local club had a habit of blowing up my battle suits with it.
I dearly miss 2nd, where the game was just silly fun instead of [serious business]. I miss the deranged thudd gun template that snaked at random, vortex grenades that would hoover up an entire flank, and demon weapons with d1000 tables.
I was playing in a club tournament during 2E and decided to spring to have my Terminators teleport in. Drawn to play the club's resident Ork fiend, I sent my Termies in to drop heavy flamer templates and sustained-fire blasts over his main advance. Stu bounced his eyebrows, opened his Codex to the shokk attack gun rules (bookmarked, I noticed) and picked up his dice. Ten minutes later two of my Terminators (including flamer guy) were dead and two more were stomping around firing randomly, now under the control of a snotling. One actually fired on one of Stu's mobs and took out one of his boyz. The attack added about twenty minutes to the game and cost me about 550 points I still haven't gotten back yet (I lost badly). But I was having so much fun I honestly didn't care. The slow dialing back of this weapon over the march of editions of 40K is symptomatic of a drift I've been wary of since 3E; the slow erosion of theme in favour of getting things done quickly. I like rich atmospheric battles where you can smell what's going on, even if that's goblin farts. As far as I'm concerned fast-playing, uncomplicated, get-'er-done 40K is why Necromunda was invented. That's a great game I'd hate to be without, but that's because the way it's done balances playability with an abiding focus on why you're playing: to get some entree, some personal access and input, into the grand gothic tragedy of the Imperium of Man. The removal of the flavour text for the shokk attack gun removes, I think, the core reason it's in the game, and abets the gradual abstracting and loss of identity of the game. This is precisely why I've sat out the last few editions. As I believe I've said in relation to one of Snipe and Wib's previous videos, 40K at its best is like text cricket; it takes ages and it's riddled with weird little rules, but playing it out and watching those rules interact is what produces the rich, evocative cultural experience you paid and painted for. I'm sure there's a point at which this gets a bit much but the situation was never as bad as what a lot of younger players seem to think it was, My memory of the early editions weren't of endless slogging through tables but of watching and making weird, outlandish, characterful stuff happen on a tabletop, and the crunch and procedure was part of the fun. Taking eight die rolls over five minutes to resolve a wraithcannon ding on a Whirlwind (another fine mess) isn't a fault, it's a feature. And the shokk attack gun was, as Snipe and Wib suggest, simply the best example of that in action. Now can someone please start a Kickstarter to raise money to bribe Snipe to refrain from any more ASMR slots? Or was that their scary Halloween act?
I would never have understood how the shokk attack gun works without the helpful visual representation. Thank you snipe and wib! I hope the resulting injuries have been cared for.
I've been on the worst receiving end of this in 5th ed, nearly wiped out a 10 strong Assault Terminator Squad. Though that must have upset them as the few remaining Termies ran towards the Warboss and hammered it into paste.
My favourite in the Ork codex is the Looted Wagon. I just love it. Especially the 4e book (although I'll always think of it as the 5e codex). i even did a video on it's various iterations way back
I remember using the SAG against my Bestie's Nids in 5th ... and going APE when it rolled maximum scatter, from the Tyranid Warriors it was aimed at, right on to his Hive Tyrant and Tyrant Guard. DOUBLE SIX ... and I stopped moaning. We both still recount and laugh at that event regularly ... good times.
It feels like the sort of weapon where its full flavour would be more reasonable to include in a skirmish scale game than a larger wargame like 40k. Unfortunately for that idea Gorkamorka no longer exists and modern Kill Team is much too competitively focused to make the shokk attack gun as random as it should be if it were included in that game.
So the Shokk Attack Gun was pivitol in one of my most fun and unique tournament games. During early 5th edition I was at a large tournament for Australia. Some 90 players. I had a Khorne CSM army led by Kharn, with berserkers, summoned demons, a dread and some rhino chassis tanks. I'm 2-0 going into round 3 and I've pulled an Ork horde. 190+ models. Led by a Mek with SAG. The mission deployment was table quarters and we both deployed just out of charge range of each other. He wins first turn. Scouting his squad of Kopters up to get a side armor shot on my Vindicator. However I win the roll for Seize the initiative and get to go first instead. I bail Kharn and his berserkers out of their rhino and charge the kopters, killing them then getting a 6" consolidate allowing me to get out of charge range of the ork army again. Its another stand off, who ever charges wins. Orks turn 1, he shuffles a few models out of charge range down the other flank, keeping a wall of boys in my way but out of effective charge range. Shooting phase. He has one gun in range. the SAG. It's been deployed atop an 18" tall building in his back corner. He places the template over Kharn and his unit and rolls for strength. Double 5. This launches the Mek at Kharns unit as if he had charged, almost the full 48" away. The Mek is killed in initiative order by Kharn, Kharns unit gets 5" consolidate, putting them back in charge range of the ork flank! Turn 2 see's 3/4 of my Daemon units summoned, including the Greater Daemon from Kharns unit champion, and they smash into the ork sides turn 2. Thanks SAG!
I like to think that if Snipe and Wib existed in Victorian times that Codex Compliant would still be published as an ongoing series of monographs. True scholarship.
I was (And still am!) a huge 7th edition player. Yes, running out of blast templates was a problem. Most people were only bringing one with them. Completely unrelated, but I recommend you guys look at the old 7th edition ruling on Orbital Bombarements. GW allowed you to shoot people in OTHER GAMES with its colossal blast template. I was at a GW shop (UK) when we decided to prank call a US shop to use an orbital cannon on one of their games. I think this probably means whoever was in that game probably did the longest attack in 40k history?
Letting the opening on the other end stay closed for a turn seems somewhat rude, but makes me imagine one of those shark tunnels they make at aquariums. No daemons can touch the Snotlings, the Snotlings can't touch the daemons, so they just awkwardly stare at each other while waiting for the gateway to open.
Minor correction: In German, 'tz' is a hard 't' and a hard 'z' like in 'zzapp'. Which makes 'snotzogga' Sound like a Word a ss officer would say. Also, 'zogga' sounds like 'zocker' which means gambler, pretty fitting, I'd say.
I think the Shokk Attack Gun is so out there and weird that trying to make it competitively viable in any way is going to rob it of all personality and flavour. Make it still be weird but comprehensible for casual players. I personally have the 6th edition chart printed out and use it alongside the regular rules as long as my friends are up for a chaotic game, and I think that's a good compromise.
I think the mad funniness of the older versions of it worked the best for them, while yeah, it kinda makes it easier to use with the stats for the most recent versions. I honestly believe that the orks whole thing of being the comedic joke yet Actually an honestly terrifying threat is kinda getting pushed under the rug more and more over newer codexes. Hell it looks more like that role has been thrown onto the Aos Ghouls and Gobbos.
I think one way GW could reintroduce the fun of the shock attack gun I'd to give it an overcharge mode. So in normal mode it works like it currently does and is more appealing to players wanting to reliably win (what are you doing with a shock attack if you want to reliably anything) and in overcharge give it the wacky high risk high reward things that could either win or lose the game in a single shot of hilarious hijinks that players wanting a bit of fun and a laugh can use
It would be nice to bring back the 4th edition SAG as an optional rule for non-competitive play. Same thing for the Eldar D-cannon that could move around vehicles.
Aw, no mention of the Epic version of the gun. I actually ONE-SHOTTED a freaking Imperator Titan (when the Titan Legions rules were released in 1994) using that in a game (which involved me rolling a PERFECT shot, targetting the bridge, NOT scattering, rolling a double 6 on the effect table, the imperial player rolling a double one on a save roll, followed by a re-roll due to the Imperator's rules that ended up as.... Another double one.) I think i burned through a lifetime's supply of luck in that one instance
Nothing truly sells the truth that 40k has slowly slipped from the roleplay side to a more balanced, focused tabletop wargame than the shifts the Shokk Attack Gun has gone through. Hiliariously enough though the fact its been there THE WHOLE TIME just makes it both a good reference point for the games complexity and also a point to show just how little the LORE has actually changed. Pretty much everything about how it works is the same, the rules attached have just changed.
I always kinda wish they had Competitive rules and Crazy Rules for stuff like this. If I'm playing for money or whatever, I have a good balanced mechanic system. If I'm doing Crazy, sure--give me two pages of random effects.
the first time I encountered a shock attack gun was the 4th ed the first time it fired its owner roles double six and my new unit of terminators was gone
I really miss the 'Looted' Vehicle rules. Grab any vehicle model, pay its cost plus a tiny amount, change the BS skill to 5+, and orky-fy the model so it looks looted. Made for interesting armies.
I'm surprised that the current rules don't at least give it the HAZARDOUS keyword. And i suppose the easiest way to bring back some of the old wackiness under modern rules would be to have events that could trigger if HAZARDOUS procs instead of the normal rule.
You are incorrect. Eveeyone knows the Lifta dropper is the best Ork weapon. It picks your super heavy up and dumps it someplace else. Like, on your Commander....
I don't know. I go to all the effort of making a light up Shokk Attack Gun and sending it to their PO Box, and it doesn't even make a fleeting appearance. 🤣
Legit I really tried to get it painted before the video and I just ran out of time! Was still going to have it lit up in the background but in its half painted state you couldn't make out what it was at all at distance. Sorry! Gonna try and get it done for the next mailbag paint log :)
"If dere's no roolz fer stickin' a Snotlin' intar der Terminator's leg den it ain't a propah Shock Attak Gun!" -- Gitgit Gitgitter the Mek
One thing I love about Orks is that their guns and vehicles are so vague and silly that you can kinda represent them with anything.
A "Grot Blasta" has been represented in the models with a blunderbuss, a pistol, a slingshot, and even a thrown stick-bomb...
Just as long as you capture the idea of: "Can potentially inflict damage at a distance," then it counts.
You know those "doctrine purist / rebel and function purist / rebel" charts some people make memes with? Orks live in the "doctrine and function rebel" side of those charts.
Back in 5th ed., during out budding wargaming club days; we ran a campaign where we started with a Planetstrike mission, then had some 3 regular Battle Missions matches, finally culminating on a big Apocalypse game that only really combined every player's armies on 2 sides for a big collective orgy of gratuitious violence match.
While my side had discussed aggressive tactics, my Iron Warriors were the only ones to roll ahead to take objective points while the other players on my side bunkered up.
That match was ended with my ork ally Shokking my objective-sitting Noise Marines (sic) after some lovely rolls. That ended up swinging the match to the other teams side, as we had no other units able to reach it, while a bunch of Eldar Harlequins rushed to take the vacant objective.
While cursing the ork sudden yet inevitable betrayal, it was great fun and the tale remains told occasionally by us greybeard grumblers.
Love the channel, great episode!
The #1 TH-cam Power Couple is back; 'ere we go!
That Ska-themed sticker is very tempting, "Wun WAAARGH bee-yond!"
It is Halloween when snotling poo is talked about. Though the gun sucks off snotlings, there is no euphemism there, none at all, how dare you for suggesting that sucking off snotlings is a euphemism... fnar fnar.
You know a weapon is cool when it can get an entire episode!
And thank you for the live action demonstration, you guys look like you had tons of fun doing it.
You know they're desperate to do an episode when they dedicate a whole episode to a cool weapon.
@@christopheraaron1255I don't think they're desperate, it's a cool idea.
@@christopheraaron1255 I mean there are loads of books, boxes and magazines for them to cover. This was easily the most interesting weapon they could look at so I think it's a good episode.
Alright, you got me with the (incredibly cursed) linger on the (equally cursed) 'inviting dark hole' quote.
...and then again with Wib's intense : [ expression during the live-action deminstration.
My friends and I once had an apocalypse game of I think 7th ed that lasted a weekend and halfway through the first day we ran out of blast templates because of all the vortexes we created. This did cause us to pause the game for an hour until we made from from some cereal boxes with most of the time being spent trying to find a compass. That was also a game where much to my friends great amusement every single one of my minis armed with a plasma weapon died from their weapons overheating due to me rolling 1's.
You missed one! There was a relic SAG from one of the 8th edition campaign books (I think it was one of the vigilus ones) that was even killier but was only available in a specific battle formation. I remember this because someone at my local club had a habit of blowing up my battle suits with it.
I dearly miss 2nd, where the game was just silly fun instead of [serious business].
I miss the deranged thudd gun template that snaked at random, vortex grenades that would hoover up an entire flank, and demon weapons with d1000 tables.
I was playing in a club tournament during 2E and decided to spring to have my Terminators teleport in. Drawn to play the club's resident Ork fiend, I sent my Termies in to drop heavy flamer templates and sustained-fire blasts over his main advance. Stu bounced his eyebrows, opened his Codex to the shokk attack gun rules (bookmarked, I noticed) and picked up his dice.
Ten minutes later two of my Terminators (including flamer guy) were dead and two more were stomping around firing randomly, now under the control of a snotling. One actually fired on one of Stu's mobs and took out one of his boyz. The attack added about twenty minutes to the game and cost me about 550 points I still haven't gotten back yet (I lost badly). But I was having so much fun I honestly didn't care.
The slow dialing back of this weapon over the march of editions of 40K is symptomatic of a drift I've been wary of since 3E; the slow erosion of theme in favour of getting things done quickly. I like rich atmospheric battles where you can smell what's going on, even if that's goblin farts. As far as I'm concerned fast-playing, uncomplicated, get-'er-done 40K is why Necromunda was invented. That's a great game I'd hate to be without, but that's because the way it's done balances playability with an abiding focus on why you're playing: to get some entree, some personal access and input, into the grand gothic tragedy of the Imperium of Man.
The removal of the flavour text for the shokk attack gun removes, I think, the core reason it's in the game, and abets the gradual abstracting and loss of identity of the game. This is precisely why I've sat out the last few editions. As I believe I've said in relation to one of Snipe and Wib's previous videos, 40K at its best is like text cricket; it takes ages and it's riddled with weird little rules, but playing it out and watching those rules interact is what produces the rich, evocative cultural experience you paid and painted for. I'm sure there's a point at which this gets a bit much but the situation was never as bad as what a lot of younger players seem to think it was, My memory of the early editions weren't of endless slogging through tables but of watching and making weird, outlandish, characterful stuff happen on a tabletop, and the crunch and procedure was part of the fun. Taking eight die rolls over five minutes to resolve a wraithcannon ding on a Whirlwind (another fine mess) isn't a fault, it's a feature. And the shokk attack gun was, as Snipe and Wib suggest, simply the best example of that in action.
Now can someone please start a Kickstarter to raise money to bribe Snipe to refrain from any more ASMR slots? Or was that their scary Halloween act?
I would never have understood how the shokk attack gun works without the helpful visual representation. Thank you snipe and wib! I hope the resulting injuries have been cared for.
Waaagh! Happy Orktober!
As an Ork player since RT this was a trip down memory lane!
A 30 minute CC?! Hell yeah!
I've been on the worst receiving end of this in 5th ed, nearly wiped out a 10 strong Assault Terminator Squad. Though that must have upset them as the few remaining Termies ran towards the Warboss and hammered it into paste.
The dice giveth, and the dice taketh away. Truly, the Orkiest of outcomes.
Wib we have the same Godzilla shirt and both play yellow blood angels. We are mindkin. Greetings, mindbrother.
Oooh a new video about an mek gun i just kitbashed from bits a couple weeks ago. Still need to paint the git. Fav 40k weapon by a longshot
The idea of suffocating on snotling poop while stuck in a dreadnaught is defenetly enough to be a halloween episode!
Remember dragging my mam around Edinburgh trying to find the GW to buy this. Stared at it all the way home to County Durham.
Wib's delivery of "on account of the farts, you see" cracked me up. I'm 35.
Well, I'm shokked to see you missed out our epic short kings! That version of the SAG could one time an Imperator Titan!!
My favourite in the Ork codex is the Looted Wagon. I just love it. Especially the 4e book (although I'll always think of it as the 5e codex). i even did a video on it's various iterations way back
This is the kind of deep dive I love you guys for.
The loss of the cool shokk attack gun rules is one of my least favourite things in new 40k
I started collecting orks in fifth edition, took this thing every time
I remember using the SAG against my Bestie's Nids in 5th ... and going APE when it rolled maximum scatter, from the Tyranid Warriors it was aimed at, right on to his Hive Tyrant and Tyrant Guard. DOUBLE SIX ... and I stopped moaning. We both still recount and laugh at that event regularly ... good times.
15:29 You can't even have Snotlings shitting in a driver's ear anymore, because of WOKE.
Excellent way to start a Saturday!🎉
Best visual representation ever!
Nice sponsor, buying a bunch of gifts. 1e 40K really was a magical time.
It feels like the sort of weapon where its full flavour would be more reasonable to include in a skirmish scale game than a larger wargame like 40k. Unfortunately for that idea Gorkamorka no longer exists and modern Kill Team is much too competitively focused to make the shokk attack gun as random as it should be if it were included in that game.
Necromunda still got some of that spirit, it's game base we could work off
getting killed by snotling farts is not the way I want to die.
Worst ever "would you rather".
Death by snotling fart OR death by snotling shart, directly to the left or right ear. 🤮
So the Shokk Attack Gun was pivitol in one of my most fun and unique tournament games.
During early 5th edition I was at a large tournament for Australia. Some 90 players. I had a Khorne CSM army led by Kharn, with berserkers, summoned demons, a dread and some rhino chassis tanks.
I'm 2-0 going into round 3 and I've pulled an Ork horde. 190+ models. Led by a Mek with SAG. The mission deployment was table quarters and we both deployed just out of charge range of each other.
He wins first turn. Scouting his squad of Kopters up to get a side armor shot on my Vindicator.
However I win the roll for Seize the initiative and get to go first instead.
I bail Kharn and his berserkers out of their rhino and charge the kopters, killing them then getting a 6" consolidate allowing me to get out of charge range of the ork army again. Its another stand off, who ever charges wins.
Orks turn 1, he shuffles a few models out of charge range down the other flank, keeping a wall of boys in my way but out of effective charge range. Shooting phase. He has one gun in range. the SAG. It's been deployed atop an 18" tall building in his back corner. He places the template over Kharn and his unit and rolls for strength. Double 5. This launches the Mek at Kharns unit as if he had charged, almost the full 48" away. The Mek is killed in initiative order by Kharn, Kharns unit gets 5" consolidate, putting them back in charge range of the ork flank!
Turn 2 see's 3/4 of my Daemon units summoned, including the Greater Daemon from Kharns unit champion, and they smash into the ork sides turn 2.
Thanks SAG!
What a neat video. Ork weapons were already crazy. This was just cool to learn more about.
I like to think that if Snipe and Wib existed in Victorian times that Codex Compliant would still be published as an ongoing series of monographs.
True scholarship.
I live for these
Your videos make me happy.
I really needed this today. Thank you!
Looking good you two! Hope you're doing well 😊
Some well read dialog by Rem there
Oh how excited do I get when I see there is a new Snipe & Wib video
What can you take from this video? 10th Edition is astonishingly lame.
It's why I stopped playing.
I like your light up pumpkin 👍
The Shokk Attack Gun used to be the most effective thing in my original Ork army in 2nd edition!
Great video as always folks.
And cheers, Snipe. After the outro, I now know what Yorkshire Tea down my nostrils feels like 👍
I was (And still am!) a huge 7th edition player. Yes, running out of blast templates was a problem. Most people were only bringing one with them.
Completely unrelated, but I recommend you guys look at the old 7th edition ruling on Orbital Bombarements. GW allowed you to shoot people in OTHER GAMES with its colossal blast template. I was at a GW shop (UK) when we decided to prank call a US shop to use an orbital cannon on one of their games. I think this probably means whoever was in that game probably did the longest attack in 40k history?
Vortex weapons were quite rare, so I never saw anybody run out of templates
I always loved the Shokk Attack gun, in 5th i always hoped to roll that mythical 6 and wipe Marneus Calgar off the table!
ANOTHER CODEX COMPLIANT DROPPED!! LETS GOOOOOOO
Luv me punk parents snipe and winbo. Luv me orks. Luv teleporter war crimes. Simple as.
Letting the opening on the other end stay closed for a turn seems somewhat rude, but makes me imagine one of those shark tunnels they make at aquariums. No daemons can touch the Snotlings, the Snotlings can't touch the daemons, so they just awkwardly stare at each other while waiting for the gateway to open.
NOW ITS A WEEKEND!
It would be really fun if they took a page out of the biovore's book and just let you place down small groups of snotlings wherever
I LOVE GIRAFFE RAGGHHHHHHHHHHH I HAVE BOUGHT WAY TO MANY AND I CAN'T WAIT TO GET MY SKA ORKS
Minor correction: In German, 'tz' is a hard 't' and a hard 'z' like in 'zzapp'. Which makes 'snotzogga' Sound like a Word a ss officer would say. Also, 'zogga' sounds like 'zocker' which means gambler, pretty fitting, I'd say.
I think the Shokk Attack Gun is so out there and weird that trying to make it competitively viable in any way is going to rob it of all personality and flavour. Make it still be weird but comprehensible for casual players.
I personally have the 6th edition chart printed out and use it alongside the regular rules as long as my friends are up for a chaotic game, and I think that's a good compromise.
you forgot 1 thing...
the mek junka could have a Shock Attack Gun, it was the 4th/5th edition one but it was the most powerful version of the gun ever
15:45 this confirms my suspicion, that the 3rd edition codex books were the worst ones, regarding presentation, layout and design 😂
What about the 3.5 Chaos ‘dex? 😉
I think the mad funniness of the older versions of it worked the best for them, while yeah, it kinda makes it easier to use with the stats for the most recent versions.
I honestly believe that the orks whole thing of being the comedic joke yet Actually an honestly terrifying threat is kinda getting pushed under the rug more and more over newer codexes.
Hell it looks more like that role has been thrown onto the Aos Ghouls and Gobbos.
I think one way GW could reintroduce the fun of the shock attack gun I'd to give it an overcharge mode. So in normal mode it works like it currently does and is more appealing to players wanting to reliably win (what are you doing with a shock attack if you want to reliably anything) and in overcharge give it the wacky high risk high reward things that could either win or lose the game in a single shot of hilarious hijinks that players wanting a bit of fun and a laugh can use
It would be nice to bring back the 4th edition SAG as an optional rule for non-competitive play. Same thing for the Eldar D-cannon that could move around vehicles.
Aw, no mention of the Epic version of the gun. I actually ONE-SHOTTED a freaking Imperator Titan (when the Titan Legions rules were released in 1994) using that in a game (which involved me rolling a PERFECT shot, targetting the bridge, NOT scattering, rolling a double 6 on the effect table, the imperial player rolling a double one on a save roll, followed by a re-roll due to the Imperator's rules that ended up as.... Another double one.)
I think i burned through a lifetime's supply of luck in that one instance
Nothing truly sells the truth that 40k has slowly slipped from the roleplay side to a more balanced, focused tabletop wargame than the shifts the Shokk Attack Gun has gone through.
Hiliariously enough though the fact its been there THE WHOLE TIME just makes it both a good reference point for the games complexity and also a point to show just how little the LORE has actually changed.
Pretty much everything about how it works is the same, the rules attached have just changed.
I always kinda wish they had Competitive rules and Crazy Rules for stuff like this. If I'm playing for money or whatever, I have a good balanced mechanic system. If I'm doing Crazy, sure--give me two pages of random effects.
Yay, Snotzogga representation!
The Space marine/ Titans legions / epic one could oen shot an impetrator titan if it hit the head or reactor.
the first time I encountered a shock attack gun was the 4th ed the first time it fired its owner roles double six and my new unit of terminators was gone
My lists always include a Mek with shokk attack gun leading a unit of lootaz
Lovely
Good stuff!
I really miss the 'Looted' Vehicle rules. Grab any vehicle model, pay its cost plus a tiny amount, change the BS skill to 5+, and orky-fy the model so it looks looted. Made for interesting armies.
Running out of blast templates is still a thing in Horus Heresy :)
Hans, get ze zogga. Ze *snot* zogga
Can we get a full Snipe & Wib ASMR video please ?
I'm surprised that the current rules don't at least give it the HAZARDOUS keyword.
And i suppose the easiest way to bring back some of the old wackiness under modern rules would be to have events that could trigger if HAZARDOUS procs instead of the normal rule.
The orkiest weapon to ever ork
Warhammer is a serious game.
I have an original RT era shokk attack gun
"Strap in snotlings" are 3 words a snotling never wants to hear.
It's incredibly sad how they butchered the shock attack gun in the last few editions
You are incorrect. Eveeyone knows the Lifta dropper is the best Ork weapon. It picks your super heavy up and dumps it someplace else. Like, on your Commander....
I haven't had my fix of Warhammer poo stories since yourhammer or lorehammer
10th edition’s streamlining of rules… BORING!? SAY IT AIN’T SO!!!
I don't know. I go to all the effort of making a light up Shokk Attack Gun and sending it to their PO Box, and it doesn't even make a fleeting appearance. 🤣
Legit I really tried to get it painted before the video and I just ran out of time! Was still going to have it lit up in the background but in its half painted state you couldn't make out what it was at all at distance. Sorry! Gonna try and get it done for the next mailbag paint log :)
The current iteration of the Shokk Attack Gun is emblematic of the problem with modern Warhammer 40K. It just doesn’t want to have fun.
WAAAGH!!!
Woaaaaaah
WAAAAAAAGH!!!
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