If only they'd do another batch of the Bretonnian resin heroes, as they've never been available since launch here in Canada but yet I see them on ebay all the time.
I’m someone who bought the 8-pack bundle of Space Marine Heroes to get the models previously. Personally I’m happy to see them readily available for everybody. They’re cool sculpts, and anyone that is mad that others can get them easier now is a butt.
I actually think it's the best starter set GW have ever put out, for any game. I'm an experienced hobbyist but for a beginner this is perfect. It's a whole game in a box, you get beautiful push fit miniatures which are coloured plastic so you don't even have to paint them to get started, and you get nice looking MDF terrain which doesn't take up loads of space and is quick and easy to throw together. But most of all it's very affordable compared to everything else GW makes. I think it targets the board game market in terms of contents and price. Would be a perfect Christmas present for someone starting out in the hobby and you could get playing that very day!
@@Dasein1 at nearly 3x the price do you see parents buying that for their kids as their first ever warhammer purchase? And are the minis easy to put together and can you play with them unpainted?
I have been whatching 40k lore for 4 years now, never bought anything. I just ordered this Box for 70 bucks. This is the entry point I've been waiting for.
I ordered my Plague Marines from a LGS in Japan on pre-order waaay back when they were first spoiled. After shipping, I managed to get them for around $60 USD. I was more than happy to pay that because I knew how expensive they would be. I'm thrilled that other people get to enjoy them now. They are absolutely stunning models.
Thanks for the video! I was going to pass on this box, but now that I know the Nurgle sorcerer is included and the board is double sided... I feel the need to paint a Deathguard team using Pallid Hand colors. My vote is you paint up the Plaguecaster.
I have the Death Guard models but not that elusive sorcerer... wasn't going to pay scalper prices for him. Very glad I'll get a chance to add him to my collection now! Nice that everyone who wants them will be able to buy them.
I absolutely love the fact both of these sets of marines are available again. I missed out on both these waves and am very happy that I won't have to pay scalper prices to get them
Love this set. It's a perfect "game in a box" to get people who are interested in kill team or 40k in general in to the game! The MDF terrain and color molded models make the skill level needed to try it out super low, which is great for kids or people who aren't as interested in the modelling side of the hobby.
They did do a rerelease of the Death Guard with the sorcerer last year, but they flew off the shelves fast and being sold for insane amounts for the boxset or the dude alone. So this release? This release is amazing.
I'm new to KT. I just read the Angels of Death rules, this set doesn't seem to be enough to build a Kill Team right? Since you need 1 Commander and 5 Operatives?
@MediocreHobbies If you're careful, you can paint out some small sheets of nurgles rot and stretch them out til they break in places, then paint them up to look like flayed skin.
I think I have just decided to go out and get this Kill Team Boxed Game tomorow , Sunday. Provided Games Workshop Croydon is open tomorow Sunday. The MDF scenery looks like it's good for the big Warhammer 40'000 game too.
Actually the re-release of space Marine heroes series 3 from 2 years ago added the sorcerer to the box for territories outside of Japan I know this because I bought two such boxes in Canada one from my flgs and one from a GW itself. The one that came from the GW itself immediately went to Canada Post and into the mail for my brother who lives in an area that doesn't have a GW or an FLGS he could buy it at. The one from my flgs went to me
You can see in your video at 5 minutes 50 seconds when you say that the sorcerer is not included in the box if you look at the box on your screen with the 157.90 highlighted it shows that the sorcerer is indeed in that box so that is indeed the re-released box with the sorcerer inside.
On the MDF terrain - I've been a bit wary of card and MDF terrain options since moving to the West of Ireland. Just not sure how it would cope with the humidity. But that looks like it's quite well sealed.
One thing you didn't cover is if it is worth multiple purchases. . . I bought multiples of the 8th edition starter with the snap fit space marines vs the snap fit death guard and i will buy two of these to match. . . I imagine the conversion opportunity is there and the snipers van run solo while the marines can be split into proper armor groups
how deas it look for kitbash? i was hopping to make them deatch watch but i see pauldrons are togheter with torso....Can yuo check how this set working for any kitbashing ideas?
I think it would be fun to paint up the Primaris as an Operations Team from the SM:2 game. Sure, it's not in world thematic, but I think it would look cool to have multiple chapters / colors on a single KillTeam, that's not your usual Deathwatch - KillTeam Black / Silver / Single colored Shoulder Pad.
It’s a different type of box, this is a starter set. Hivestorm is part of the seasonal campaigns. If you have what you need to play already you don’t need the starter set unless you just want the models.
When I was in Japan, I noticed people playing KillTeam, and at the end of the game, they'd carefully pack away their mini's, and disassemble their terrain to flat pack it. Storage space is at a premium, and this new terrain would go over extremely well. I wonder if GW took notes watching all the players in their cafe in Tokyo?
Me and 1 of my brother just jumped into kill team. So far Ive bought the Hivestorm, and he his long wanted ork kommandos. Looking forward to both painting and playing KT in the near future. Ive also pre ordered this box, my brother will buy the nurgle marines of me cheaply (we agreed at 250nok). Here in Norway the retail price for the box is 820nok, which equals ca 69eur, I got it with the preorder discount for 690nok. Been wanting to make an Imperial fist squad for a long time, anf this, with the IF upgrade box, and potentially a box of assault intercessors, should make for a good selection of marines to use in rounds of KT ^^ Good video, fun to see the insane prices these scarce models have atm on sites like ebay. Im very happy GW decided on this starter kit, else I was looking at roughly 3000nok to have all the options I want on my Angels of Death 😂
If you really want to play kill team, get hivestorm while you can. This box is very much an intro box that if you want to play the the full game you have to buy a rulebook, mission deck,full terrain, and equipment stuff in addition to the starter box. Those add ons which are included hivestorm cost more than hivestorm. You can maybe get by without the rulebook using non gw web sources but the gw lite rules on their website does not cut it.
yeah that's the whole point of the box though, you can try it out, have fun with friends and if you want to invest more later for proper games you can. Not everyone wants plastic terrain and a crazy amount of rules, I think it's a cool option for those people. This box isn't for Kill Team players, it's a starter set for those who haven't played it yet.
@bradp6452 It's terribly priced for an intro product too. Normally you lead with a steep discount to get people in the door. Instead this is $8/models - tied for the worst retail full price per model in all of Kill Team (10 Scouts for $80). This could have easily been packaged into 12x16 at $80 and put on board game shelves- but instead GW filled a box twice that size with mostly empty space and slapped a $112 price point on it - same specs as the AoS and WH40K starters that have Full Ruleboks and THREE TIMES the plastic ... This was turned into an old-head cash grab on the previously limited access Space Marine Heroes sculpts and nothing more. :(
@martylund8411 The war cry starter is I feel worse. Here you get full teams. Emberguard will likely be similarly priced but is at least the full game experience. The interesting thing with the space marine heroes models is that I am not sure if gw even makes the sprues since they are round instead of gw trapezoid.
Agreed Hivestorm is the better set to really get started. With this set you have to make additional purchases to play the real game, that will put it above the price of Hivestorm. I can find Hivestorm for 200 USD all over and this starter is mostly going MSRP at 112 USD (I am sure it will be cheaper once the new wears off). So for the additional 88 USD you get 2 story plastic terrain (2 story really needed to get the real feel for the game), the full ruleset, 22 minis (vs 14), and the ops cards. It actually feels like a no brainer to me. If the new starter was 70 USD then the value would be there to make this set stand out and really draw new players in. As it stands this is just a pull for established players to get 2 sets of minis that were previously hard to get a reasonable price.
Asking someone to start out with a $200 Hivestorm box is some craziness man. Most new people aren't going to be willing to spend anything close to that
8:38 Cheap. Affordable. Accessible. Those words arent in the dictionary at Games Workshop 😂 This box does look decent though, and I don't even collect these armies, but I'm a sucker for a bargain. The WH40k standard starter set is crazy good value as well, especially for me as I collect Nids. It's the combat patrol, which is £100 just without the barbgaunts. So.
Well the sorcerer won't be going for £70 for much longer that's for sure. Even though I don't play Marines or Nurgle, I might buy this as the sculpts are really nice.
Weird that they included 7 models from each team as they’re both 6 unit elite teams but I guess you can either choose the sniper or heavy gunner on the Angels of Death team and you also have a spare Plague marine model to swap out to try different team builds so that bit of variety is also a welcome addition especially for new players
Glad you put that video up because I almost forgot I needed to buy that boxset. For me the minis in it make it worth it and I wanted it simply for the minis.
+ looking forward to seeing you paint some of these. Nurgle Sorcerer is probably the most anticipated, but that depends on what chapter you paint the Primaris dudes.
I bought 2 blind boxes, ended up with the Plague Spewer and the Flail.... wanted the Sorcerer (like everyone else) but i still count the 2 i got as a definite win!!
Yes! That MDF scenery is huge for me personally. We game away from home and I often have to lug around boxes of terrain in addition to my armies. This will make transporting terrain so much easier. Please please please GW release MDF scenery for AOS and TOW as well!
Ordered mine today. The fold out data sheets with wound tracking space is handy too. Wood, sorry, would be great to see an MDF gallowdark/ ItD set, as they take ages to paint!
I bought the full space marine heroes kill team box last year for relatively cheap so not too bothered, I’m super glad they’re freely available now! Really miffed the new war cry box is NOT guaranteed to have all the minis in the box though, super disappointing from GW. Hopefully they’ll be in a future set like this
This box is awesome. An excellent way to dip your toe into the 41st millennium. Get a budy, split the cost and now you got an opponent to roll dice against. And on top of that: ALL OF IT IS PUSH FIT! No tools needed, no glue required. You can just push it all together and get to playing in like 30 minutes or so. I've got plans for these models when they hit store shelves. Those marines are gonna look awesome painted as the Guardians of the Covenant (or whatever other chapter I might elect when I get my hands on em). And those Death Guard models are gonna look mighty good in Black Legion colours. (And will be a nice start to a Black Legion styled Death Guard force.)
I think I like it. I've been doing more 3rd party MDF terrain. And if I don't have to paint it that's even better. As @derek said, storing "real" terrain is a pretty tough job.
I can't wait for the rules to the Death Guard team since i already got the blind box ages ago. Might still get this starter set for learning the game we'll see.
But will they actually produce enough of these boxes so that they can sell some to people who are interested in getting started? Or will they sell out in the first few minutes to people who already play 40k and want the cheap models? And who will then then just throw out the rest of the stuff.
Yeah it will be perfect for that! You can play straight away instead of trying to build and paint all the terrain before they get distracted by something else haha
I've already got two sets of the Death Guard figures, but I still bought the starter. I want to build the Plague Marine Kill Team, and can always mix the extra DG figures into my big 40K Death Guard army. What I really wanted were the SM captain, sniper, and heavy bolter for my Angels of Death kill team. Just buying the three figures I wanted on ebay would have cost me almost as much as the starter. 😉
I Had actually paid for the blind box of Strike Force Justian on Ebay 3 days before the Start set reveal, was luckily able to cancel my order and get a refund before the seller shipped them out, the entire starter box is like $50 cheaper than just the set i was going to buy
Usually on these starter sets it’s hit or miss - yes I was initially meh in the msg - but looks lovey and the board is great In the US my usual go to game store is $95, free shipping … let’s say, I ordered more than 1 for Christmas presents (and not just for 😅)
Actually the Sorcerer/Plague Caster was in the UK release of the set. The set included all 7 Death Guard models and a box of 8 included all +1. Oddly the Space Marine one, at least the one I brought, didn't include one of every model. Despite watching 4 unboxings on here contradicting what the eBay seller told me about the box. But I was lucky to pull the Captain and only missed out on the sniper (down with phobos) and the heavy bolter (gravis is king) who I bought for £15 so with the price of the Blind Box box at £50 I may as well have waited for this set. But now that I have both teams I don't really need this set, though the terrain and booklets would be nice. IF I did get this set again I'd paint the Space Marines as Blood Angels and the Nurgle as either Black Legion corrupted or basic Death Guard. I've already painted mine as Red Corsair corrupted marines, with a detailed background to the squad, so DG is winning as I miss painting them.
Anything that makes scalpers cry is like music to my ears. This hobby is already expensive enough. I hope the MDF is NEVER a replacement for proper plastic. Add it, fine replace NO. The rare models are convincing me to pick up a box. I already got the other plague marines, but this sorcerer is making me do it.
I was surprised by the relatively low buy-in cost for this. I wanted it for the cool marine characters that I intend to buddy up with Titus. Intrigued by the pre-painted MDF scenery too. I'll probably end up trading away or selling the Deathguard as they don't float my boat.
6:16 really need to fact check this video. The Nurgle sorcerer was not included in the original box, it was re released later on and included the model and was available worldwide wide
On a one-time release from GW which was super limited. I managed to snag one because my local GW store manager reserved me one of his two copies. Hardly widely available worldwide!
@@The_Captain40k I walked in to toymaster and picked up a blind box for £8.99, lucky got the sorcerer. These where also available at a lot of non GW stores worldwide
All over this! I think GW may have got something right! Great review Andy! It’s excellent they simplified, especially the terrain, so it’s not too intimidating to new players, perhaps the best starter of any of their game systems! Delighted the scalpers are going to get thrashed! Top lads in Underworld gaming. Obviously you are going to paint them Flesh Tearers!
Yeah I think it’s their best ready to play on the day box they’ve done yet. If people want more, they can invest more at a later date but for fun games with friends it’s perfect! I haven’t actually decided yet 😄
@@MediocreHobbies I’ve been after the Marine dudes for ages! The thing is it’s really quick to get it up and running, and that is a positive, no glueing, no painting terrain and models, which to those not in the know could seem quite intimidating. Set it up and just get stuck in. You know it has to be Flesh Tearers!
I don't play any GW games, but I really wanna pick up a copy of the board once people start splitting boxes on eBay. It'll be perfect for games of NEKROPLANET!
The tears of the scalpers are delicious
😂
Yea I raised a hearty middle digit to the scalpricks as I placed my order at 10.01am this morning😙👌🏼
If only they'd do another batch of the Bretonnian resin heroes, as they've never been available since launch here in Canada but yet I see them on ebay all the time.
They already made their money, what you mean?
@@JohnPC00 that’s strange they go back on sale in Europe all the time.
I’m someone who bought the 8-pack bundle of Space Marine Heroes to get the models previously. Personally I’m happy to see them readily available for everybody. They’re cool sculpts, and anyone that is mad that others can get them easier now is a butt.
Haha totally agree! Nicely put
I bought the Nurgle boxset last year for around £60... very happy that more people can now get their hands on them :-)
That’s really good to hear, I was hoping it wouldn’t annoy collectors!
That’s a lovely sentiment …. Most people would be up in arms
I've not bought any "blind box" type of stuff since the 90's when I got way too into CCGs.
@@brionl4741 the nice part was you could actually just buy the whole set instead of going "blind box"...
@@6dragondaddy913 The first set of Marines was a bit frustrating as the Captain was a "rare". You could get several boxes before seeing one.
I actually think it's the best starter set GW have ever put out, for any game. I'm an experienced hobbyist but for a beginner this is perfect. It's a whole game in a box, you get beautiful push fit miniatures which are coloured plastic so you don't even have to paint them to get started, and you get nice looking MDF terrain which doesn't take up loads of space and is quick and easy to throw together. But most of all it's very affordable compared to everything else GW makes. I think it targets the board game market in terms of contents and price. Would be a perfect Christmas present for someone starting out in the hobby and you could get playing that very day!
Tbf, the KT starter boxes have always been great. The KT18 GSC vs Admech box was also an amazing starter set
@@notreheros Yeah but was it as good for a beginner as this one?
I’d argue the kill team box available just a few weeks ago was better than this one
@@Dasein1 at nearly 3x the price do you see parents buying that for their kids as their first ever warhammer purchase? And are the minis easy to put together and can you play with them unpainted?
What? It was $12 CHEAPER than this box, bud
I have been whatching 40k lore for 4 years now, never bought anything. I just ordered this Box for 70 bucks. This is the entry point I've been waiting for.
It's a very cool box hope u enjoy it
Same bro so excited
I ordered my Plague Marines from a LGS in Japan on pre-order waaay back when they were first spoiled. After shipping, I managed to get them for around $60 USD. I was more than happy to pay that because I knew how expensive they would be. I'm thrilled that other people get to enjoy them now. They are absolutely stunning models.
This is my son's Christmas present. Perfect to get him into the game. The hard part is going to be waiting until Christmas to open it!
I also pre-ordered it today to play with my sons 😊
It will be Christmas before you know it...
I love the colored plastic. Painting was too big a barrier for me in the '90s compared to using MS Paint to make Quake skins for free.
You need to do a video where you paint the entire team from each side
I’ll definitely be painting these guys asap
If I didn’t already own all the Deathguard models I would 100% buy this box
Thanks for the video! I was going to pass on this box, but now that I know the Nurgle sorcerer is included and the board is double sided... I feel the need to paint a Deathguard team using Pallid Hand colors.
My vote is you paint up the Plaguecaster.
Thinking of doing mine as the Bringers of Decay, As I'm looking at a Black legion Army.
Just got this today so happy with it the push fit models make it so easy
I have the Death Guard models but not that elusive sorcerer... wasn't going to pay scalper prices for him. Very glad I'll get a chance to add him to my collection now! Nice that everyone who wants them will be able to buy them.
I absolutely love the fact both of these sets of marines are available again. I missed out on both these waves and am very happy that I won't have to pay scalper prices to get them
Yeah it's such a great set!
Love this set. It's a perfect "game in a box" to get people who are interested in kill team or 40k in general in to the game! The MDF terrain and color molded models make the skill level needed to try it out super low, which is great for kids or people who aren't as interested in the modelling side of the hobby.
Exactly that! Game in a box is perfect way to describe it
Great review! I really like the idea of that mdf painted, can't wait to check it
Can confirm, that sorcerer was in the Death Guard box last time these were released
They did do a rerelease of the Death Guard with the sorcerer last year, but they flew off the shelves fast and being sold for insane amounts for the boxset or the dude alone. So this release? This release is amazing.
Ngl I personally couldn't be less interested in these models.
@@TheDanteBoots then why comment?
Then why would you even watch he video, let alone also commenting on it?
I would love to see the deathguard painted up, especially the malignant plaugecaster, will definitely picking this set up
Yeah he’s top of my list to paint!
There isn't a lot of the terrain, though. It seems hard to arrange in a way that prevents team from having line of sight on eachother right away
I bought the Primaris Marines that are now in this set, and I'm happy that I can get more for other purposes like kitbashing.
unexpectedly good starter set. didnt think gw could do it, but apparently they can
preordered for 67€ :) very informative video thanks alot!
Me too at 65€✌
Hope you guys enjoy it!
Will the starter set be restocked all the time or is it like hivestorm a limited amount?
@@somerandomstuff1748 no it should be around and restocked for the foreseeable future as it’s the starter set.
@@MediocreHobbiesthanks, ill definitely pick that one up after i finish my hivestorm box then or ask for it for Christmas
Can you paint lord invocatus tutorial pls🙏🏻
I'm new to KT. I just read the Angels of Death rules, this set doesn't seem to be enough to build a Kill Team right? Since you need 1 Commander and 5 Operatives?
that MDF is sensational - GW hit this out of the park IMO
Hoping to see a lot more of this in the future!
Very reasonable price for GW. I'm pleasantly surprised. I'll pick this up!
Do all of the models have give two head options (helmet or no helmet)?
@@jabauokku6274 yep all of them.
Do we get to see your Sanguinary Guard at some point?
Anything nurgle, it's great to give them a basecoat of typhus corrosion, then layer up over it, using nihilakh oxide instead of shades.
Good tip!
@MediocreHobbies If you're careful, you can paint out some small sheets of nurgles rot and stretch them out til they break in places, then paint them up to look like flayed skin.
I think I have just decided to go out and get this Kill Team Boxed Game tomorow , Sunday. Provided Games Workshop Croydon is open tomorow Sunday.
The MDF scenery looks like it's good for the big Warhammer 40'000 game too.
Got to see this set in store today and I like what is there. The minis are nice and the terrain looks great I just want them to do more like it
Yeah me too, even if it's just for other starter sets! Always good to see the contents in person as well
Actually the re-release of space Marine heroes series 3 from 2 years ago added the sorcerer to the box for territories outside of Japan I know this because I bought two such boxes in Canada one from my flgs and one from a GW itself. The one that came from the GW itself immediately went to Canada Post and into the mail for my brother who lives in an area that doesn't have a GW or an FLGS he could buy it at. The one from my flgs went to me
You can see in your video at 5 minutes 50 seconds when you say that the sorcerer is not included in the box if you look at the box on your screen with the 157.90 highlighted it shows that the sorcerer is indeed in that box so that is indeed the re-released box with the sorcerer inside.
Could you by any chance make a guide to paint this set? Im still on the edge to buy it
I'll be doing a few tutorials and you'll have plenty of time to decide to get the box then :)
On the MDF terrain - I've been a bit wary of card and MDF terrain options since moving to the West of Ireland. Just not sure how it would cope with the humidity. But that looks like it's quite well sealed.
Oh interesting, yeah will keep an eye on things like this with this set! Great point to think about
Size comparison with regular primaries would have been great addition
Just bought this for me and my buds , can’t wait to start playing
Hope you all enjoy it!
@@MediocreHobbies thanks we just gotta learn to paint em😅
I have lots of tutorials plus will be doing some on this models as well. You got this!
@@MediocreHobbies oh nice dude , I’ll definitely check them out and looking forward painting them 👍
It would be pretty cool to see a painting guide for this set
There’s a few on the way!
Great review. Although cheap terrain and Games Workshop are not usually in the same sentance.
What snipers do you use? They look like they cut really close/clean
One thing you didn't cover is if it is worth multiple purchases. . . I bought multiples of the 8th edition starter with the snap fit space marines vs the snap fit death guard and i will buy two of these to match. . . I imagine the conversion opportunity is there and the snipers van run solo while the marines can be split into proper armor groups
how deas it look for kitbash? i was hopping to make them deatch watch but i see pauldrons are togheter with torso....Can yuo check how this set working for any kitbashing ideas?
I think it would be fun to paint up the Primaris as an Operations Team from the SM:2 game. Sure, it's not in world thematic, but I think it would look cool to have multiple chapters / colors on a single KillTeam, that's not your usual Deathwatch - KillTeam Black / Silver / Single colored Shoulder Pad.
Looking forward to playing this soon
Cracking value box! Would love to see any of these minis being painting on the channel.
Any specific ones? Will definitely be doing a few!
@@MediocreHobbies DG plaguecaster or banner bearer…. SM heavy bolter or the captain! Look forward to seeing what you do 👍🏼
I'd love to get this one but aren't most of the Marines the exact same ones from Space Marine Adventures: Tyranid Attack?
I just ask this if u got hivestorm is this box necessary
It’s a different type of box, this is a starter set. Hivestorm is part of the seasonal campaigns. If you have what you need to play already you don’t need the starter set unless you just want the models.
When I was in Japan, I noticed people playing KillTeam, and at the end of the game, they'd carefully pack away their mini's, and disassemble their terrain to flat pack it. Storage space is at a premium, and this new terrain would go over extremely well. I wonder if GW took notes watching all the players in their cafe in Tokyo?
Yeah maybe!! Will definitely be a great help even for bringing terrain to different gaming places!
Me and 1 of my brother just jumped into kill team. So far Ive bought the Hivestorm, and he his long wanted ork kommandos. Looking forward to both painting and playing KT in the near future. Ive also pre ordered this box, my brother will buy the nurgle marines of me cheaply (we agreed at 250nok). Here in Norway the retail price for the box is 820nok, which equals ca 69eur, I got it with the preorder discount for 690nok. Been wanting to make an Imperial fist squad for a long time, anf this, with the IF upgrade box, and potentially a box of assault intercessors, should make for a good selection of marines to use in rounds of KT ^^
Good video, fun to see the insane prices these scarce models have atm on sites like ebay. Im very happy GW decided on this starter kit, else I was looking at roughly 3000nok to have all the options I want on my Angels of Death 😂
If you really want to play kill team, get hivestorm while you can. This box is very much an intro box that if you want to play the the full game you have to buy a rulebook, mission deck,full terrain, and equipment stuff in addition to the starter box. Those add ons which are included hivestorm cost more than hivestorm. You can maybe get by without the rulebook using non gw web sources but the gw lite rules on their website does not cut it.
yeah that's the whole point of the box though, you can try it out, have fun with friends and if you want to invest more later for proper games you can. Not everyone wants plastic terrain and a crazy amount of rules, I think it's a cool option for those people. This box isn't for Kill Team players, it's a starter set for those who haven't played it yet.
@bradp6452 It's terribly priced for an intro product too. Normally you lead with a steep discount to get people in the door. Instead this is $8/models - tied for the worst retail full price per model in all of Kill Team (10 Scouts for $80).
This could have easily been packaged into 12x16 at $80 and put on board game shelves- but instead GW filled a box twice that size with mostly empty space and slapped a $112 price point on it - same specs as the AoS and WH40K starters that have Full Ruleboks and THREE TIMES the plastic ...
This was turned into an old-head cash grab on the previously limited access Space Marine Heroes sculpts and nothing more. :(
@martylund8411 The war cry starter is I feel worse. Here you get full teams. Emberguard will likely be similarly priced but is at least the full game experience. The interesting thing with the space marine heroes models is that I am not sure if gw even makes the sprues since they are round instead of gw trapezoid.
Agreed Hivestorm is the better set to really get started. With this set you have to make additional purchases to play the real game, that will put it above the price of Hivestorm. I can find Hivestorm for 200 USD all over and this starter is mostly going MSRP at 112 USD (I am sure it will be cheaper once the new wears off). So for the additional 88 USD you get 2 story plastic terrain (2 story really needed to get the real feel for the game), the full ruleset, 22 minis (vs 14), and the ops cards. It actually feels like a no brainer to me. If the new starter was 70 USD then the value would be there to make this set stand out and really draw new players in. As it stands this is just a pull for established players to get 2 sets of minis that were previously hard to get a reasonable price.
Asking someone to start out with a $200 Hivestorm box is some craziness man. Most new people aren't going to be willing to spend anything close to that
8:38 Cheap. Affordable. Accessible. Those words arent in the dictionary at Games Workshop 😂
This box does look decent though, and I don't even collect these armies, but I'm a sucker for a bargain. The WH40k standard starter set is crazy good value as well, especially for me as I collect Nids. It's the combat patrol, which is £100 just without the barbgaunts. So.
Well the sorcerer won't be going for £70 for much longer that's for sure. Even though I don't play Marines or Nurgle, I might buy this as the sculpts are really nice.
I couldn't believe the price. No guilt picking that up.
I’m absolutely getting this box, I’ve been wanting all of the models since those blind boxes! So happy I don’t have to pay a fortune for them! 😅
Yeah the eBay prices were shocking!
The nurgle box set, the latest release of it before this kill team box did have the sorcerer in it.
Weird that they included 7 models from each team as they’re both 6 unit elite teams but I guess you can either choose the sniper or heavy gunner on the Angels of Death team and you also have a spare Plague marine model to swap out to try different team builds so that bit of variety is also a welcome addition especially for new players
It would have been mean of them to not include the last model from the Space Marine Heroes sets.
@@jonasbarka fully agree with you
Glad you put that video up because I almost forgot I needed to buy that boxset. For me the minis in it make it worth it and I wanted it simply for the minis.
Yeah I can see a lot of people just getting it for these guys alone
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looking forward to seeing you paint some of these. Nurgle Sorcerer is probably the most anticipated, but that depends on what chapter you paint the Primaris dudes.
I bought 2 blind boxes, ended up with the Plague Spewer and the Flail.... wanted the Sorcerer (like everyone else) but i still count the 2 i got as a definite win!!
Painting the Plague Caster as another in your series on painting rare/limited models would be cool. Even if he’s not that rare anymore.😂
Hahaha good idea!
Yes! That MDF scenery is huge for me personally. We game away from home and I often have to lug around boxes of terrain in addition to my armies. This will make transporting terrain so much easier. Please please please GW release MDF scenery for AOS and TOW as well!
Here's hoping, would love to see what else they'll release in MDF!
Ordered mine today. The fold out data sheets with wound tracking space is handy too.
Wood, sorry, would be great to see an MDF gallowdark/ ItD set, as they take ages to paint!
Yeah I wonder will they release older sets in MDf too! (Although I do have speed paint videos on that terrain 😄)
Is this out yet?
Just up for preorder officially out in November
I bought the full space marine heroes kill team box last year for relatively cheap so not too bothered, I’m super glad they’re freely available now! Really miffed the new war cry box is NOT guaranteed to have all the minis in the box though, super disappointing from GW. Hopefully they’ll be in a future set like this
Rooh great minis for the price... and those MDFs walls are a timesaver.
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We got annouc first aos . For warcay set and that one is 5th
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This box is awesome. An excellent way to dip your toe into the 41st millennium. Get a budy, split the cost and now you got an opponent to roll dice against. And on top of that: ALL OF IT IS PUSH FIT! No tools needed, no glue required. You can just push it all together and get to playing in like 30 minutes or so.
I've got plans for these models when they hit store shelves. Those marines are gonna look awesome painted as the Guardians of the Covenant (or whatever other chapter I might elect when I get my hands on em). And those Death Guard models are gonna look mighty good in Black Legion colours. (And will be a nice start to a Black Legion styled Death Guard force.)
Bold of you to assume I have any buddies at all lol. I have only the lonely to split this between
I have no interest in the mdf terrain, I prefer chunkier/more realistic terrain, but I've got to say this is a fantastic idea for many people
Making terrain was one of my favourite things about the hobby back in the day...the hardest thing was storing it all!
Mdf will make a huge difference to people travelling for games! And yes storing it will be easier now too
I think I like it. I've been doing more 3rd party MDF terrain. And if I don't have to paint it that's even better.
As @derek said, storing "real" terrain is a pretty tough job.
I can't wait for the rules to the Death Guard team since i already got the blind box ages ago. Might still get this starter set for learning the game we'll see.
Aren't the ULTRAMARINE markings sculpted on?
Nope nothing sculpted onto marines. You’re free to do what ever you like.
@@MediocreHobbies Excellent! Thanks for that. Crimson Fists they shall be then! :)
Ordered via your link, cheers
Aw thanks so much man
But will they actually produce enough of these boxes so that they can sell some to people who are interested in getting started? Or will they sell out in the first few minutes to people who already play 40k and want the cheap models? And who will then then just throw out the rest of the stuff.
@@craigwelter5862 it’s not a limited box. It’s on the shelves for the foreseeable future.
got mine pre ordered, will be nice to learn how to play kill team with the kids
Yeah it will be perfect for that! You can play straight away instead of trying to build and paint all the terrain before they get distracted by something else haha
Can these be painted as Space Wolves?
@@battlehawk1263 they can indeed. Adding a few wolfy bits would be a good idea.
It's an exceptional price compared to the price point for the heroes set on the primary market, never mind the secondary market...
You have no shame, because of you I am on my way to get my starter box set ^^
Hahaha
I've already got two sets of the Death Guard figures, but I still bought the starter. I want to build the Plague Marine Kill Team, and can always mix the extra DG figures into my big 40K Death Guard army.
What I really wanted were the SM captain, sniper, and heavy bolter for my Angels of Death kill team. Just buying the three figures I wanted on ebay would have cost me almost as much as the starter. 😉
I wonder if those kits are cast somewhere other than Notts. The sprues look different to the GW standard.
Those kits are designed and produced by Bandai in Japan originally.
@leeedward2574 that probably explains the exceptional detail then
Would’ve liked more flavour with the loyalist marines but I like the set as a whole, hope to see more card terrain as it’s cheap and easy
Yeah looking forward to seeing what else they do with MDF stuff now!
Just when I thought I was out they drag me back in
They always do!
The terrain is basically the STC Ryza Ruins flattened. In case anyone already has some of those terrain pieces lying around.
Definitely getting this box latter down the road. Specially for the DG minis.
Yeah will be interesting to see if they release older sets in mdf now too! You’ll have plenty of time to pick this up!
I Had actually paid for the blind box of Strike Force Justian on Ebay 3 days before the Start set reveal, was luckily able to cancel my order and get a refund before the seller shipped them out, the entire starter box is like $50 cheaper than just the set i was going to buy
Oh wow that was lucky!
@MediocreHobbies very much so
The newest nurgle box set does indeed include the sorcerer.
I think the MDF terrain is neat, however this is GW so I wouldn’t count on them doing it on a consistent basis except outside of maybe starter sets.
Yeah it makes sense for starter sets for sure
Usually on these starter sets it’s hit or miss - yes I was initially meh in the msg - but looks lovey and the board is great
In the US my usual go to game store is $95, free shipping … let’s say, I ordered more than 1 for Christmas presents (and not just for 😅)
Ohhh nice! Great gift! You deserve it 😂
Does it come with a SM transfer sheet?
There's no transfers in the set!
I would like to mention that the boxes were not completely randomized. If you bought the 8 count box you would get all of them guaranteed.
I say that in the video?
GW and the company that pushed out these collections, never made any promises that they wouldn't be available any where else, that I know of.
Actually the Sorcerer/Plague Caster was in the UK release of the set. The set included all 7 Death Guard models and a box of 8 included all +1.
Oddly the Space Marine one, at least the one I brought, didn't include one of every model. Despite watching 4 unboxings on here contradicting what the eBay seller told me about the box. But I was lucky to pull the Captain and only missed out on the sniper (down with phobos) and the heavy bolter (gravis is king) who I bought for £15 so with the price of the Blind Box box at £50 I may as well have waited for this set. But now that I have both teams I don't really need this set, though the terrain and booklets would be nice.
IF I did get this set again I'd paint the Space Marines as Blood Angels and the Nurgle as either Black Legion corrupted or basic Death Guard. I've already painted mine as Red Corsair corrupted marines, with a detailed background to the squad, so DG is winning as I miss painting them.
20k views let's go bro!
Yeah video is doing really well 🙌
Anything that makes scalpers cry is like music to my ears. This hobby is already expensive enough.
I hope the MDF is NEVER a replacement for proper plastic. Add it, fine replace NO.
The rare models are convincing me to pick up a box. I already got the other plague marines, but this sorcerer is making me do it.
It's a starter set, the mdf is for people just want to play the game for the first time without building and painting terrain first
I was surprised by the relatively low buy-in cost for this. I wanted it for the cool marine characters that I intend to buddy up with Titus. Intrigued by the pre-painted MDF scenery too. I'll probably end up trading away or selling the Deathguard as they don't float my boat.
Yeah it's a great price for new people
Most of the angels of death marines are in the new space marine adventures box
They are indeed
The pre order is £57.38 here in blighty 😜
That’s so good.
So happy I work in a hobby shop, this box is so cheap for me 😂
Cool review 👍🏻
Thanks man
6:16 really need to fact check this video. The Nurgle sorcerer was not included in the original box, it was re released later on and included the model and was available worldwide wide
On a one-time release from GW which was super limited. I managed to snag one because my local GW store manager reserved me one of his two copies. Hardly widely available worldwide!
@@The_Captain40k I walked in to toymaster and picked up a blind box for £8.99, lucky got the sorcerer. These where also available at a lot of non GW stores worldwide
@@The_Captain40kand also through flgs's I got mine through my flgs in Canada here
All over this! I think GW may have got something right! Great review Andy! It’s excellent they simplified, especially the terrain, so it’s not too intimidating to new players, perhaps the best starter of any of their game systems! Delighted the scalpers are going to get thrashed! Top lads in Underworld gaming. Obviously you are going to paint them Flesh Tearers!
Yeah I think it’s their best ready to play on the day box they’ve done yet. If people want more, they can invest more at a later date but for fun games with friends it’s perfect!
I haven’t actually decided yet 😄
@@MediocreHobbies I’ve been after the Marine dudes for ages! The thing is it’s really quick to get it up and running, and that is a positive, no glueing, no painting terrain and models, which to those not in the know could seem quite intimidating. Set it up and just get stuck in. You know it has to be Flesh Tearers!
I don't play any GW games, but I really wanna pick up a copy of the board once people start splitting boxes on eBay. It'll be perfect for games of NEKROPLANET!
Haha good plan!