Why the education system is terrible
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I too feel that whatever relevant knowledge and love for science i acquired during childhood was because of all those science related TV channels and not school.
yes the school system attempts to either teach you as if you know nothing or as if you know everything,both in a boring manner.
I have studied in a top central university in India, then did masters in China now Joint PhD in UK and Germany. I think I have a decent experience to share my opinion in short.
1. Lack of Budget in Universities for research
2. BS/useless curriculum
3. Insincere Faculty
4. Idealising UPSC etc
5. No support for innovation and ideas from young students
6. Lack of resources aka softwares, high computation, cloud storage and soft skill training for students.
7. Poor campus culture (dancing on culture fest is not campus culture)
7. Lack of instruments in Labs.
8. Last but not least lack to Industrial collaboration
A teacher can't cultivate love for the subject when they themselves don't love the subject. I had many teachers who weren't in love with the subject they were teaching.
Exactly . But there are many exceptions i have met with. Like atleast 10-12
As a 10th grader myself who has been seeing Rationality content recently, Science in our schools is just "Formula seekh lo (learn formula) and theory ratlo aur exam mein badhiya marks lao"
Like seriously, we dont see Practicals happening or anything, u just are given rules to follow. It sucks badly
As your senior (Class XI Non Medical), I can't agree more. But thankfully our teachers didn't have such an approach...
10th grader myself. I agree with you, there's no imagination or passion involved in the way that science is taught. We only ever do experiments because the board needs to see that we did something or when we have a good teacher. Otherwise, it's all about percentages, not true understanding. Hell, we aren't even told about the scientific method, all we do is memorize some facts and give exams.
Exactly
We are not taught how science works, we are just given some random things we are supposed to rattify and do numericals
Hell, I don't get good marks in Science yet I bet I know more about the scientific method and it's working than those who get full. It sucks honestly@@Revyy729
@leaDR356 XI grade student here who's pursuing PCM. maybe their approach for theory is as such because they just want good results in boards from you all so that their school prospers in reputation. as for practicals, thats BIZZARE as practicals are important for X grade. idk how they are neglecting practicals. does your school have PCB laboratories?
yes @@Revyy729. i too am fed up with this edu. system. there are only some teachers who try to make studying fun and actually teach good things outside of the syllabi, like most of my teachers were. still nevertheless, it's just a thirst for 95+%
Yes it sucks
Just like this channel
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@@Aston_martin69worse than that?
The more I see my teachers the more I want to be a teacher.
Not just Education system but almost everything sucks in here.
Quote from rudest book ever "If people were products we are seeing some bad ones here "
Exams don’t test your knowledge it test your memory.
You're absolutely right. As someone who scored good in my school life as well as got good marks in both NEET & JEE, I can say school is terrible. ( writing not to show off but to genuinely criticise our current education style from someone who got decent scores & was not a failure)
I usually donot write any comment but man i must say thank you to you. You see, you helped me(and others) a lot to think critically and apply skepticism. As someone who was completely brainwashed by the youtube videos your channel helped me a lot. I got to know you through science is dope and ever since i started following you. As teenager myself, although i may not be able to support yourself financially and such but man thanks a lot. Love from nepal❤
Thank you so much and i'm glad i was able to help!
@@DDRational_ You're welcome and keep making these videos. Lots of support🙏🥰
@@DDRational_ well lucky for us jee aspirants now , there is this channel called maths unplugged , he teaches everything from the basics to ISI JEE ADV level and he using historical elements like Bhaskaracharya or Pingala in his introduction lectures which stresses the importance of maths all the more , recently he made a philosophical series called Life unplugged where he gave a hypothesis of life to work on ( and this hypothesis has a lot of base , im waiting to find out where it fails) , and now he is planning to make a series called existence unplugged where he would talk about the history of the universe , his purpose is to penetrate into the indian youth using competitive exams , then lead them to maths , then lead them to a state of higherness ( a state of immense dedication to a purpose which we understand after gaining a large amount of world knowledge and self knowledge from neuroscience , psychology etc), and then there is Amit Gupta ( im sure u know of him he taught for more than 25 years) who teaches the scientific method and then teaches physics upto jee advanced level , AKK sir who made atomic structure easy for us by explaining it as an evolution of science ( rather than mocking it for no reason like the BM hedge guy did ) , alsoi suggest you make a video on ancient indian logic and resoning ( Pramanas (methods of proof) which r used by followers of Nyaya philosophy)
Amazing
Those encyclopedias were also my first love❤
I will become a good teacher one day.
Good luck
You will definitely be one !
Thank you bhai 🙏🤗
I am always with you, brother
Thank you!
Ooh, illustrated encyclopaedias brings back so many childhood memories! As also that phase of binge watching veritasium, Vsauce, etc!
I agree so wholeheartedly with what you're saying. As a student, physics seemed so boring, just the formulae and bland theory. It's only later in life, watching the channels above, talks by Sabine Hossenfelder, Royal Institution, etc, that have suddenly awakened a love for physics and chem, and now I find those subjects soo fascinating!
Bad systems do not need changing, they need replacing. Every teacher who has a passion to teach must teach at home and make schools irrelevant
@@Kartik-it2qc well it atleast opened up an alternative way to teaching other than school way but then the think they lacked was keeping the motive intact and improving refining and renovating their processes. All it became is a big business proposition for them.
@@Kartik-it2qc only if we are able to again come up with some alternative teaching ways with focus on personalized teaching can this change and revolutionsed.
@@Kartik-it2qc yes, that is right. Coaching classes that are run by passionate teachers who refuse to accept investment to grow or do not look at this like a business are the ones that will have the best results.
Coaching classes are just businesses responding to market forces, not passionate teachers
Well said, I am good at technical skills like computers which helped me earn a living. Without that I would have doing some minimal job with low pay.
I'm learning to be a mobile technician
Schools here in India just helps us to pass our exams, nothing more than that. We should realise that knowledge and critical thinking cannot be taught by anyone and should be achieved by ourselves through skeptical inquiry
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I liked byjus but my parents would be like stop having fun with concepts and make time tables to do hard questions and micro-manage and destroy everything
byjus is shit lol . There are much better ways to have fun while studying . Yt has better content than scamjus
well i joined their course 3 years ago , worst desicion in my life , inexperienced teachers , outdated videos
@@bodiminds6571 it was best until they entered in jee/neet market
Then you would probably enjoy the organic chemistry tutor.
Instead of igniting passion in the students teachers ignite fear among them. It's like "If you don't pass the exams, if you don't bring good marks, be prepared to go to hell or get beaten badly". This is not how it works !!!!!
Why kids (in general) get afraid of going to school is what we really need to think of.
My parents interference spoil the fun of learning
Science should be a mandatory subject until at least the high school (if not beyond), at least as a supplementary subject for non science students. This can help instill scientific temper in the society
I love Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey (2014) with Neil deGrasse Tyson. It's the best thing I ever watched and it shaped me as a person I am today. I can't praise it enough. In my opinion, it should be compulsorily shown in schools.
It sure does
Wasting 12 years of your life learning nothing is worst
Plus point is that you make friends 😁
System mein kin logo ne kabja jama rakha hai, jo isko kharab karke rakhen hain, pata lagayen jara!
Keep the videos coming… 🫡
iI've been thinking about this for a long time. I have friends who are now teachers, and I don't think they should be teachers. They used to be the kind of students who would skip class and were not interested in studying. Seeing them become teachers feels disastrous to me. During my time in school, I witnessed this lack of passion in teachers so much that I ended up hating them.
Agreed. Teacher selection should be based on how well someone can teach. If someone can't teach then he / she shouldn't be a teacher.
Society sucks😅
i think the worst part about the rote memorization regardless of understanding to get a good grade model of education india has going on right now is that it *does* work in some specific ways that make it really hard to convince the people in power that a change is even necessary. engineering medicine and law which are the most highly valued and respected degrees do require a good deal of memorization and someone who has memorized everything to earn one of these degrees will probably do a decent job as an engineer doctor or lawyer. to do these jobs *well*, you need to have critical thinking skills and do those boring things like analysing a situation and problem solving, but you can still just get by even if you never think critically about anything. somehow, this even true for subjects like languages or philosophy where critical thinking should be the name of the game. years ago, we transformed these subjects to be about memorization. and that's all they're about now. even teachers don't need to have any critical thinking skills, because their jobs are also basically to get you to memorize a bunch of stuff.
and like, this model of education is fundamentally broken, but it's also stuck in this cycle of no soft skills ever being valued so no one wants to learn them so no one teaches them so no one has them and those who do don't get any material benefit out of having them. taking this issue to a school principal for example would a bust. "you aren't teaching your students critical thinking skills," we will say. "and so what," the principal will say "all of my students graduate and go to good universities and get good jobs. they don't need critical thinking skills." and this is basically the type of response everyone in power will give, because whatever is going on right now is working, because people are graduating and getting jobs. and changing a whole system is difficult and time consuming and an uphill battle.
like, genuinely, i have so many friends who have no critical thinking skills at all. both my parents have science degrees and still believe in pseudoscience like astrology and go to homeopaths when they're sick. but that didn't stop any of them from getting good jobs and having careers. depending on who you're talking to, trying to apply any logic can be seen as being a contrarian who just loves to argue about things pointlessly. it can literally get in the way. when i was in 3rd, i got marked down for answering an interpretation question on an exam by actually trying to interpret the book we'd just read. the correct answer was to memorize the interpretation our teacher had told us in class and write that down on the exam.
we left india when i was 10 and i started going to an ib school. and i had plenty of bad teachers there too, but i also had plenty of good teachers. and for the first time, having a good teacher meant having a teacher who actually cared about how much we were learning. in my cbse school in india, i started taking french for my third language, and pretty much all we did in every single class was memorize lists of vocabulary and conjugation tables and so on. in my new school, our french teacher was a native speaker of french, and she spent the whole class speaking to us in french. she would explain every new activity in french. we would ask for clarification in french. we would watch a video in french and then talk about it in french. and i struggled with these classes every single day until i graduated, but i also learnt a lot of actual french that i could use. our exams in 12th grade were partly on grammar but also partly essay-type papers where we were given a prompt and had to spend about two hours writing a free response. we had oral exams where we would go in and were presented with an image or a topic, had a couple of minutes to prepare, and we just had to freely talk about it with our teacher for 15 minutes. for our science classes, we had to design and conduct an experiment and then write a lab report about it. and it was very beginner level stuff, like just doing a bunch of titrations with orange juice or something in chemistry class and then writing about what we found. but it's the beginner level stuff that teaches you how to do science. none of my friends who graduated 12th from india got to do anything remotely similar until university in the us. the ones who went to uni in india did nothing of the sort at all.
and it's bad enough in the sciences where i believe at least some institutions do have some sort of experiments and research exposure for their students, but what about the humanities? my parents complain constantly about how no one in the "west" takes indian literature seriously. or the same for indian history or philosophy or religion, and so on. but we don't take them seriously either. an indian student choosing to study english or hindi or tamil or so on for their undergraduate studies is considered stupid because they weren't good enough to do engineering or medicine or business. the curriculum is all memorization. the job opportunities are scarce and not well-regarded. college professors may be respected, but generally are not required to do any research at all. there are hundreds of years of academic writing on english literature, or russian literature, or french literature. compared to them, there is practically nothing on indian literature. and this is just literature, which a layperson can still read for free, even without any academic writings. what about history? the whole study of history is completely reliant on research. you can't teach history you don't know.
and like, we get that these are problems. but the people who can actually change things don't care. because it doesn't affect them. they've already got their lives sorted. and if you're the parent of a student right now, why would you go out of your way to teach them skills that genuinely have little to no bearing on their ability to secure a job when they could do just as well by memorizing everything for their exams? indian education is a snake eating its tail and no one who can do anything about it cares enough to try.
The only thing that can truly make a difference is a new education policy inspired by developed countries. I believe if the current ruling government successfully executes and implements this policy, it will significantly impact the country. The seamless execution of policy is more challenging and difficult than creating one.
I agree fully with this, as a child always inclined towards science and its principles. Motivated to learn more and more understanding the stuff for the love of it. But i never felt even then that our system from teachers methodologies or outdated boring syllabus help in maximizing and refining that passion and talent. Its very weird i used to think, like im one of the kids who has passion for a subject, yet our system is not recognizing it, its not even bothered by it. I so knew that if there was a better mechanism i would love and enjoy my learning process even more. With time i kept my passion alive but then again a time did came in higher standards where this was actually crushed, where i found that the child who enjoyed learning the subject is now disinterested in it just because of the way it is taught. as it lacks any passion for making us learn and the faith in the system was zero. Felt like a robot slave and thats when i stopped bothering about the system.
Now think a child who had interest and passion with time grew less interested so think abt ppl who are less interested or not sure what they like. I think its time that system is improved with more practical, engaging, experimental, interactive and creative learning. I have learned with time that if these things are focused upon in learning any subject or topic becomes engaging and interesting be it science or history. And it improves the core understanding of the subject much better. Makes student more inclined towards learning it. Ai and tech can really help and will change learning radically. Students and parents need to focus on alternative ways of learning rather than mundane and outdated syllablus and system. I would also say that we need more discussions and debates on various topics and focus skillwork. Discussions and debates are the reason our ancient and gurus came up with whatever knowledge they did. Not that everything is accurate but atleast they had a system and way where students were motivated to think rationalize discuss debate and learn more from each other. Not confined to an outdated syllablus.
A teacher can make or break kids lives. There are very very few dedicated, passionate teachers these days . Teachers now a days focus mostly only on bright students and neglect the slow learners. But they don't understand by giving some extra effort how much difference sometimes they bring to these kids lives . Who has the time??
I used to hate my teachers and i still do
You are not alone bro
I do too. Especially arrogant ones.
Because in school we're taught what to think the syllabus never changes you cannot question the teacher
Not all teachers can be passionate about there subjects, and not all student should become doctors, engineers, or scientist. someone has to work as truck driver or garbage collect. Believe it or not but the world is like a hunting ground and instead of a deer we hunt each other's money(and time). If today world population shrink you 90%, we will still be having more people then in year 1700. So look after yourself. not climate change or politics or society.
education is the best but syllabus designer are the worst people
Education was never the problem, the problem is how it is being taught.
ADHD students are unacknowledged. :(
Well in my clg cheating happens so nobody likes to study . I liked about soace and evolution and maiinly dinosaurs
I'd rather not try to feed science to children. They need to develop a natural interest. The best route is for the parents to show interest in science and keep learning as a student. Children learn by example and not instructions
Yeah Parents at times should be at times a little hands of in their approach like if a Child asks a doubt don't discourage him if you don't know it , instead tell him/her to find the answer by themselves and even tell the parents what it is.
We got Pranav Rambles before GTA6! 😂❤
Me too from nit calicut bro
One of the reasons I love science is the video lectures of Aanand sir from Byju's❤
If you wont start teaching me Physics on TH-cam ill report you to the police
This kind of attitude towards science further helps a person to become a rational human being. Am I right Pranav?
One more thing to add is the cost of education is so ridiculously high that it almost becomes a dare.
How one is supposed to ask Indian parents who don't give a f*ck all about coaching, counselling and Idea of Passion for such expensive course costing in lakhs? I don't know.
I wish education should be free, all things considered. That's a good start.
My brother asked about how trigonometric tables are formed. To which that so called maths teacher replied "You need to memorise it".
I taught my brother elimination method to find and x and y but the so called maths teacher striked that entire problem and she asked "Why are you doing elimination method and I never taught you this".
You can assume what kind of teacher she really was.
fcuk passion, be calculative analyze your options get to know the system or game and play it. Always get money and take care of your finances not a degree.
I fell in love with science watching Dexter's laboratory, visual dictionary,i liked mechanical engineering, all the things which i suggested were laughed off, behold now most of them were proven right by other people. I am from nit too but the syllabus, research and people are very rigid, bull shit dont ask questions, just get me results thats it.
It is purposely designed that way.
Unfortunately
We need to put pressure on our government to spend around 6 to 7 % of gdp in to education,now its below 3 %😂
And put huge traiffs(around 30 percent) on private education industry
Book recommendations bro so that we can develop critical thinking.
Learn some mathematics like probability, statistics etc.
observe everything, and question everything Which you observed.
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it fucks
Kids are ambitious. Evolution has got that figured out. We have to create a new system to facilitate those ambitions so that they are beneficial to everyone. Only solutions worth exploring are systemic.
Also. I think that AI will destroy curiosity as it has destroyed google. Thought you'd know better.
If you don't pay the teachers enough, they are not going to do their jobs with full force. I am a temporary professor at Delhi University, I am paid peanuts after doing my BA, MA, MPhil and PhD, I cannot marry, start a family, and I have no stability, at 29, I still feel like an undergraduate student who is barely earning pocket money. I wish I had switched careers at the opportune moment.
Totally agree. Our education system needs to inculcate a love for learning and encourage critical thinking. At the moment, it is oriented too heavily towards taught methodology and memorizing everything.
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Dude you really need to work on your efficiency of delivering your point of view...it's unnecessarily lengthy
I think you should be quiet
Hi pranav. I want to have a rational discussion with you about religion off the record.
I am a man of science but i also believe in God and Im a theist.
Why off the record? Because I have some personal screenshots of 100% right predictions done about me by astrologers and i do not want to make it public.
Please lets have a rational discussion.
Reply to this comment and I will share you how to contact me.
I have reassessed my teachers in the 1980s...I feel most of them were terrible. I did well in my education ... probably because I read multiple books on my own and developed a habit of self learning and critical thinking on my own. I turned to rational thinking during my teens. Once I did that...I was always questioning things that people took for granted
Another point is 75% attendance,they torture you to maintain that, why waste our 9 hours of life everyday in college if we can get the same education from internet in 3 to 4 hours, also modern students have many talents so we need time for other skills also,REMOVE 75% ATTENDANCE SYSTEM AND DON'T MAKE SAME ROPE TO JUDGE ALL STUDENTS(AS EVERY BEING IS DIFFERENT YOU CAN'T EXPECT FROM A FISH TO RUN)
Hey pranav, I totally can relate to this. To speak about myself, I was always fascinated by science, when I was a kid.
I always desired to be a physicist, but then mugging up something without understanding the core principle was never easy for me, because of that I used to just study for the sake of studying and passing the exam.
Fast forwarding to the teenage, where I struggled very much with my 12th grade, because I did not have the basic foundation of mathematics.
I thought college would be different, but no, in college as well the faculties just focus mainly on grades and mugging up the terminology without understanding the basics.
Same story my guy. Relate to every part, even I was interested in science but till the 12th standard the mugging up and not focusing on understanding or why I started enjoying science made me disinterested in the way the system taught.
I have a hard time mugging up things too. I need to understand the concept before it sticks in my brain. High school and college were tough for me because my classmates would just memorize everything without understanding it deeply. It was fascinating to see them memorize chemistry and physics( like how is that even possible), but when I asked them to explain anything, they couldn't even explain the basics. It was frustrating to get lower grades than them.
@@ashleyjad6420 Agreed! I still don't know how most of the mugging up works. You can mug up examples, you can mug up formulas but how to use them that way. I would only score in chapters I understood and not in others even after mugging up.
In India you do engineering first then decide what to do
Might be out of context, but weird stats that i always though off.....Based on a big state population An average 8 lk+ take 10th Exam, 4.5 lk take 12th......1/4th go for higher education....What happens to rest?
Just to add, the way tests are conducted in India is such a big turn off. I was one of those students who understood conceptually but failed miserably in exams. There is so much pressure to do well in an exam. My anxiety always ruined it. There should be more comprehensive tests than one final do or die kind of exams. Science especially is never done by an individual. Marks should be based on research, collaboration, communication, problem solving and of course knowledge. This what we end up doing at work anyway.
Also, kids need a positive environment to thrive. Our whole worth is determined by how much marks you get or how much money you make. This is so toxic. Even if someone is interested in a subject, the environment will push them away or they will end up having low self esteem.
Passion doesn't pay bills.. 😅. That's the reality for all the average students. Passion is only for top student's who can excell in it.
What are your thoughts on the theory multiple intelligences? Iam an experiential learner by the way
I'm glad videos like these really expose our education system but alas, things will not change for another century or so in this country...I will do my PG outside India if I really want to study again in future
It's a total mess
Not at all updated
Bro! You didn't vote?
Carlin already nailed some mahor reasons
those who makes yt videos should be avoided on talking such topics. Utterly bullshit.
Nobody is asking you to watch them, dislike and move on.
@@prodigious5766 well he is uploading on public platform.
Cry
@@jitendersharma8715 Is it NECESSARY to watch every video on the public platform?
Aren't you the one who chose to click and watch the video?
@@prodigious5766 so what I can watch what I want