Watching Hitch habitually push back his non-existant hair as he speaks is soul-crushing. What a great mind; a mind sorely-missed and greatly needed in today's world.
Watched the entire debate. I've been a fan of Christopher Hitchens for quite some time, and I honestly feel that this may have been his finest debate performance, at least out of those I've watched. Especially his closing argument; Dembski probably should have agreed to give over his time for more questions, because those final remarks by Hitchens were absolutely brilliant.
Dembski's a dope. Hitch was always a class act, anybody else and his RIGHTward shift would have been treason, but he must have had his reasons, soon after his shift, he learned ironically, his throat the device so important to him, his livelihood and to so many of us fans, and followers.
What a loss Christopher Hitchens As great today as he was in life . Today we can relive his critical thinking . This man has done more to make people think ,then any Pope ,ayatollah ,Archbishop , Buddha mistic , or Hindu preacher . What a loss to humanity
It’s so ridiculous how stupid people can be… there is no Jesus… there is no god… nothing happens when you die… when you understand this you will live life with a purpose…Love each other .. that’s all we have
A truly great man CH who I only recently discovered but have had the same train of thought on religion for years. No way I could put my points across in the same manner he so eloquently did., his tone alone garners interest, without the solid content. Religion is almost comical to me, the amount of people that die each year in its many names is shameful. When the doctrines of religion are dissected by clever, knowledgeable people like CH, it really does put in the comedic bracket. My comments on here are not to incite or belittle people of faith. I just wish that rational thought would be elevated above the brainwashing and hatred that is obviously passed down through the generations.
I know I am not going to live forever and neither are you, but until my furlough here on earth is revoked, I’d like to elbow aside the established pieties and raise my tumbler of Johnnie Walker Black 🥃 in honor of the brilliant intellect that was Christopher Hitchens, may his courageous ideals against oppression and delusions keep inspiring freethinkers until the end of human extinction. I sorely miss him. 💐
A great debate. Hitchens at his most polite, showing great respect to all. Hitchens left us too soon. His views make total sense to me. Never a true believer and became a deist or a secular person. If there is a “God”, we are a failed experiment. I believe are brains are too small so we invent. Human beings are barbaric and cruel. Who would make that?
Imagine arguing for the existence of Abraham Lincoln for ten minutes and concluding that you have taken the audience into the "ballpark" of his existence. That would be ridiculous. Why is the standard of for proving God's existence so much lower?
At 32:03 Dembski admits that evolution is part of reality, in the middle of trying to convince the audience that it's not. Regardless of whether his claim is true, that HE could write a computer program that evolves Richard Nixon into Christophe Hitchens, and regardless of whether he meant evolves an image of one into an image of the other or evolves one's DNA into the other's DNA or evolves one's 3D body shape into the other's 3D body shape or whatever he might have meant, the fact remains that he openly admitted that a computer program can evolve something. Not just simulate the evolution of something, but actually evovle something. That is to say, a computer program can make changes to something in such a way that the changes add up or accumulate. Such accumulation of change, a process commonly known as evolution, is a part of the reality we live in.... and William Dembski openly admitted that fact in the process of trying to refute that same fact.
14:39 - If a God exist he(?) is certainly not on our side. Just look how much pain and cruelty and injustice is in the world he threw us in. And he doesn't help us. EVERYTHING that helps us in this world comes from ourselves. Science, technology, understanding of nature. God gave us nothing.
I don’t understand how the the christian kept saying “there isn’t evidence for that. “ lol the irony in this statements just got under my skin so badly lol
The fact that, after *_hundreds of years_*, Christians *_STILL_* don't know the difference between a _theory_, a _hypothesis_, and a mere personal *_opinion_*....blows my mind. It's a simple thing to grasp and take on board; yet most people seem *_incapable_* of understanding the difference. I do not get it. I hold myself to a _very_ high standard of intellectual awareness, so I can't help but be amazed at the ignorance of others.
avedic Theists are (mostly) brainwashed as youths to fear a vengeful, tyrannical god and even worse to love said a crewel tyrant. Having been raised as a Catholic, I fully understand that desperate need to "believe". What a struggle it was to come to terms with my own mortality.
+65Z01 I haven't even really come to terms with it. I will die. Everyone does. That's ok. It honestly doesn't worry me much at all. I fear my loved ones dying...but the mortality of life is ok. What else could it be? I trust that the universe "knows" what it's doing....so to speak.
Remember that one time hitch was an intellectual mass murderer? Hitch! "What is this ? This is like being an insect or a rodent in a laboratory of a very cruel & stupid person" hahaha I started thinking this when I was a teenager. Couldn't ever rebut that argument to myself. Still holds. Thank you Hitch. You were a force to be reckoned with.
Dembski has decent ideas but just can’t deliver them properly at all. Hitchens just whips the floor with him in likability and understandability. Dembski is awkwardly on his back foot the whole time. And this is critique coming from a theist. 😅
Christian guy gave some trash arguments. He basically has a God of the gaps argument, the gaps have just gotten smaller. He also focuses way too much on Hitchens previous publications instead of making an argument for God.
At the 1:27:58 mark: Dr. Dembski announces, "I would say intelligent design is friendly to Christian theism." Merely "friendly?" I'll go further than that. I'd say the two have been engaging in a biblically paired, mutually satisfying tryst for centuries. Freethinking and scientific discovery has the provided the oculars necessary to finally catch them in the act.
@1:25:15 shameless plugging @1:26:13 atheism was much more a minority position in the ancient world. -- When it is enforced by religion-infested governments what else can you expect? @1:33:36 are we conflating drought-mom's real existential crisis to prom-mom's perceived inconvenience? @1:37:00 this is a broken, fallen world -- how do the actions of the created totally break the intelligent design of an omnipotent, omniscient creator? @1:37:48 god is dealing with bad options -- god is neither omnipotent nor omniscient if he cannot deal with these options -- oh wait, he floods the planet and delivers multiple plagues -- that is how he deals with a broken, fallen world that he created! his grand plan? @1:53:25 the bible is not a book of systematic theology...it's messy -- but it is purportedly the divinely-inspired word of your god! Does this, then, mean that your god (and your god's word) is messy? @1:53:33 it's messy.. and the world is messy, but it captures that messiness -- because it is/was a man-made book @2:14:34 (wrt: dembski's challenge) why wouldn't you like to meet shakespeare? -- what makes you think that shakespeare is in heaven? what makes you think that shakespeare would like to meet me? would shakespeare have any choice in the likelihood of the encounter? @2:15:23 I will leave it to the viewer to incorporate the remainder of hitchen's closing remarks into your respective world-views.
I cringe every time I hear Hitchens translate “Gott mit uns” as “God is on our side.” It literally translates to “God with us,” word for word. He’s paraphrasing to give it more weight, but I don’t see any need for that-I wish he would’ve simply translated it literally instead, and then he could’ve followed that by saying, “in other words, ‘god is on our side.’”
I understand what you're saying. However, How did the German people interpret "Gott mit uns"? or "God with us." Back in the day? I think you'll find German people back then actually did interpreted literally as "God is on our side" So it's not that cringey. What's really cringey is Dembski and most of his arguments that he presented, waffle coming from a supposedly educated person like Dembski, concerning.
I simply love when fools make a comment, and then remove themselves from the chat so they don’t have to defend their (usually ignorant) remarks. Don’t fault me for saying CH now knows there IS a God and he is in hell now; those are the words from God himself. Take it up with Him when it’s your turn for that life review
Yeah, he was so smart, he knew there was no God. Always raging on Christianity, you know it's not the only Religion on the planet. I'd like to get an argument from some of these atheists on the '6 systems of Indian/Hindu Philosophy' (they probably know very little about it).
Hitchens (indeed, many of the "New Atheists like Harris, Dennett and Dawkins) has a great deal to say about Islam and a little less to say about Hinduism. Sam Harris is a fan of spirituality and often speaks well of Jains but not so well of Muslims. Dennett is a bit more up front with his disdain for all supernaturally-based belief systems. Dawkins tends to also speak up about Islam, quite a bit.
From the first 15 minutes: Hitches was a great speaker and an intelligent man, but he doesn't understand the biblical framework of creation, fall and and re-creation, or the character of a God who pours himself out for his creatures while granting them freedom to choose. These things are revealed, not induced or deduced. I'm looking forward to hearing the rest.
Astonishing how well Deists and Theists know the mind of their invisible undetectable unproven ancient mythical God which never hasa demonstrable correaltion with reality.
@@jaydenwilson9522 Gods, just like unicorns have no role to play in science. Your inability to grasp the concept of science does not add credibility to your imaginary friend. A demonstrable correaltion between your god and reality would...
@@derhafi Reductionism might die a slow death as the vatican of old did but the age of scientism will undeniably come to an end as fast as it rose... unfortunate that we were born in a time of pathological science. And it's not my inability to grasp science, I'm unable to grasp you and your ilk's dogmatic views of reality. A framework and model can only explain so much after all. And the thing about god is that it's all about faith...
Hitchens' description of wars and the evils of humanity eventually being rectified by the "progression" of evolution implies purpose and is contradictory to materialism. Hitchens' gift of rhetoric should not obscure his shallow answers to life's big questions.
Let me sum up Christopher's opinion; there are all sorts of things in the universe we don't understand. We can decide that God should not have made it this way, so God must not exist. After acknowledging how vast and mysterious the details of nature are, he assumes as true the latest trendy opinions in biology or speculations about prehistoric human history. These are once again taken as reasons to reject belief in God. The bottom line is that Hitchens' doesn't believe in God because he doesn't want to, and he will say as much.
@@GayorgVonTrapp I hold a PhD in Molecular/Cellular Biology. What are your credentials? I sure a job at McDonald’s doesn’t provide you the insight needed to even understand what is being discussed. So, bless your little heart.
@@johnhoey7717 Oh. One of the big guns is in the chat. I am honoured. This should be good. It’s gone a bit quiet in the Drive-Thru …, I’m just itching to know what part of the molecular biology curriculum deals with YOU knowing what conversations Christopher Hitchens is having NOW with some invisible spaceless being? Chicken nuggets? Btw .. The last qualification I obtained was in theology. A bit more pertinent to the subject matter than molecular thingywotsit majonkey. I am not impressed or convinced in any way that your qualification has fitted you well for reality.
Sorry hitch but the universe is not increasing its expansion rate that is an illusion of relativity. The velocity gained bye matter at the big bang is constant not accelerating.
Congrats on the absolute mangle of evidence-based science that you misdefine and clearly don’t understand in order to arrive at bereft nonsense. Well done, really.
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Watching Hitch habitually push back his non-existant hair as he speaks is soul-crushing. What a great mind; a mind sorely-missed and greatly needed in today's world.
neurotic any? like the person distracted by "and, um,da"
Soul crushing? Hardly
@@benhartart9487that’s because you have no soul, or a brain lol 😂
Hitchens last remarks is the most beautiful speech I've ever heard
Watched the entire debate. I've been a fan of Christopher Hitchens for quite some time, and I honestly feel that this may have been his finest debate performance, at least out of those I've watched. Especially his closing argument; Dembski probably should have agreed to give over his time for more questions, because those final remarks by Hitchens were absolutely brilliant.
Dembski's a dope. Hitch was always a class act, anybody else and his RIGHTward shift would have been treason, but he must have had his reasons, soon after his shift, he learned ironically, his throat the device so important to him, his livelihood and to so many of us fans, and followers.
His closing here always brings me to tears. Beautiful and courageous statement he makes that encapsulates his entire life philosophy.
if you havent you should watch the munk debate vs tony blair
IMO thats his best
What a loss Christopher Hitchens As great today as he was in life . Today we can relive his critical thinking . This man has done more to make people think ,then any Pope ,ayatollah ,Archbishop , Buddha mistic , or Hindu preacher . What a loss to humanity
Too bad he's in Hell!!
December the 15th 2011 - the day the world became a much dumber place. So missed, such a loss.
Smart people need dump people or else why be smart 😂
LMAO at 31 mins in when Dumbski is describing how 'perfectly created' the human eye is... THROUGH HIS GLASSES!
Christopher Hitchens.......My star of Bethlehem.
and water walker,,,
@@woodytheduke And water-to-wine transformer.
I thought this "paper professor" was going to prove God's existence and goodness... still waiting.
I would rather listen to hours and hours of Christopher Hitchens than minor minutes of William Dembski.
It’s so ridiculous how stupid people can be… there is no Jesus… there is no god… nothing happens when you die… when you understand this you will live life with a purpose…Love each other .. that’s all we have
A truly great man CH who I only recently discovered but have had the same train of thought on religion for years. No way I could put my points across in the same manner he so eloquently did., his tone alone garners interest, without the solid content. Religion is almost comical to me, the amount of people that die each year in its many names is shameful. When the doctrines of religion are dissected by clever, knowledgeable people like CH, it really does put in the comedic bracket. My comments on here are not to incite or belittle people of faith. I just wish that rational thought would be elevated above the brainwashing and hatred that is obviously passed down through the generations.
I know I am not going to live forever and neither are you, but until my furlough here on earth is revoked, I’d like to elbow aside the established pieties and raise my tumbler of Johnnie Walker Black 🥃 in honor of the brilliant intellect that was Christopher Hitchens, may his courageous ideals against oppression and delusions keep inspiring freethinkers until the end of human extinction.
I sorely miss him. 💐
Tribute indeed - well said.
A great debate. Hitchens at his most polite, showing great respect to all. Hitchens left us too soon. His views make total sense to me. Never a true believer and became a deist or a secular person. If there is a “God”, we are a failed experiment. I believe are brains are too small so we invent. Human beings are barbaric and cruel. Who would make that?
Oh, my. Dembski is a real piece of work. “I can no longer get a job…” Hitch must have had a good laugh after this clash.
Imagine arguing for the existence of Abraham Lincoln for ten minutes and concluding that you have taken the audience into the "ballpark" of his existence. That would be ridiculous. Why is the standard of for proving God's existence so much lower?
Hitch crushed that lightweight Christian apologist.
At 32:03 Dembski admits that evolution is part of reality, in the middle of trying to convince the audience that it's not. Regardless of whether his claim is true, that HE could write a computer program that evolves Richard Nixon into Christophe Hitchens, and regardless of whether he meant evolves an image of one into an image of the other or evolves one's DNA into the other's DNA or evolves one's 3D body shape into the other's 3D body shape or whatever he might have meant, the fact remains that he openly admitted that a computer program can evolve something. Not just simulate the evolution of something, but actually evovle something. That is to say, a computer program can make changes to something in such a way that the changes add up or accumulate. Such accumulation of change, a process commonly known as evolution, is a part of the reality we live in.... and William Dembski openly admitted that fact in the process of trying to refute that same fact.
Take The MONEY out of Religion, and There wouldn't be Much of It ! Most of The Vocal Supporters of Religion , Exploit It For Easy Money !
14:39 - If a God exist he(?) is certainly not on our side. Just look how much pain and cruelty and injustice is in the world he threw us in. And he doesn't help us. EVERYTHING that helps us in this world comes from ourselves. Science, technology, understanding of nature. God gave us nothing.
I don’t understand how the the christian kept saying “there isn’t evidence for that. “ lol the irony in this statements just got under my skin so badly lol
The fact that, after *_hundreds of years_*, Christians *_STILL_* don't know the difference between a _theory_, a _hypothesis_, and a mere personal *_opinion_*....blows my mind. It's a simple thing to grasp and take on board; yet most people seem *_incapable_* of understanding the difference. I do not get it. I hold myself to a _very_ high standard of intellectual awareness, so I can't help but be amazed at the ignorance of others.
avedic Theists are (mostly) brainwashed as youths to fear a vengeful, tyrannical god and even worse to love said a crewel tyrant. Having been raised as a Catholic, I fully understand that desperate need to "believe". What a struggle it was to come to terms with my own mortality.
+65Z01 I haven't even really come to terms with it. I will die. Everyone does. That's ok. It honestly doesn't worry me much at all. I fear my loved ones dying...but the mortality of life is ok. What else could it be? I trust that the universe "knows" what it's doing....so to speak.
gotta give Dembski credit just for being up there and trying haha
I get tired of hearing apologists use science to prove anything.
you can't fix stupid,,,,but the best attempt I have ever seen! Nice try CH
Remember that one time hitch was an intellectual mass murderer? Hitch!
"What is this ? This is like being an insect or a rodent in a laboratory of a very cruel & stupid person" hahaha
I started thinking this when I was a teenager. Couldn't ever rebut that argument to myself. Still holds. Thank you Hitch. You were a force to be reckoned with.
Someone once tried to tell me my speech was heresy but he said heresay 😂😂
Crikey,a year old and only fifteen hundred viewers.Seems most people don't give a toss!
Dembski has decent ideas but just can’t deliver them properly at all. Hitchens just whips the floor with him in likability and understandability. Dembski is awkwardly on his back foot the whole time. And this is critique coming from a theist. 😅
7:04 start
I'm still shocked that Christians gave a thunderous applause for Dembski's claim, "we're dead already." What repulsive, immoral rhetoric.
Hitchslaps galore.
Who's William Demski?
Suppos I'm about to find out
Oh, no! I'm viewer number 666!
kinda crazy how you can place them on top of each other and make a 3 petaled flower ;)
I dont like aThe Grammar Police but that was funny AF 😂😂😂
Christian guy gave some trash arguments. He basically has a God of the gaps argument, the gaps have just gotten smaller. He also focuses way too much on Hitchens previous publications instead of making an argument for God.
William is deeply deluded
Some animals like certain types of predatory birds have brilliant eyesight in the dark because their prey don't. Thats Evolution 😂😂😂
Good eyesight only needed for animals not nocturnal. That's Evolution! 😂😂
Why on Earth would you explain God to an Athiest? Human DNA is human DNA.😂😂
All animals communicate. They don't talk.
Only because they don’t have to in their particular niche but may in the future!
Loots of animals don't sense light. What about Bats? 😂
Dembski is one dishonest dude. All he did was scapegoat
Getting right on my last nerve, Dr 😂😂
soon as demski opened his lying trap he lost the debate.
At the 1:27:58 mark: Dr. Dembski announces, "I would say intelligent design is friendly to Christian theism."
Merely "friendly?" I'll go further than that. I'd say the two have been engaging in a biblically paired, mutually satisfying tryst for centuries. Freethinking and scientific discovery has the provided the oculars necessary to finally catch them in the act.
@1:25:15 shameless plugging
@1:26:13 atheism was much more a minority position in the ancient world. -- When it is enforced by religion-infested governments what else can you expect?
@1:33:36 are we conflating drought-mom's real existential crisis to prom-mom's perceived inconvenience?
@1:37:00 this is a broken, fallen world -- how do the actions of the created totally break the intelligent design of an omnipotent, omniscient creator?
@1:37:48 god is dealing with bad options -- god is neither omnipotent nor omniscient if he cannot deal with these options -- oh wait, he floods the planet and delivers multiple plagues -- that is how he deals with a broken, fallen world that he created! his grand plan?
@1:53:25 the bible is not a book of systematic theology...it's messy -- but it is purportedly the divinely-inspired word of your god! Does this, then, mean that your god (and your god's word) is messy?
@1:53:33 it's messy.. and the world is messy, but it captures that messiness -- because it is/was a man-made book
@2:14:34 (wrt: dembski's challenge) why wouldn't you like to meet shakespeare? -- what makes you think that shakespeare is in heaven? what makes you think that shakespeare would like to meet me? would shakespeare have any choice in the likelihood of the encounter?
@2:15:23 I will leave it to the viewer to incorporate the remainder of hitchen's closing remarks into your respective world-views.
why are these discussions so long? They are not so interesting.
its more of a debate format for opposing ideas..... gladiators of word... unfortunately it last longer than a fight lol
Maybe it’s the listener? 😊
I cringe every time I hear Hitchens translate “Gott mit uns” as “God is on our side.” It literally translates to “God with us,” word for word. He’s paraphrasing to give it more weight, but I don’t see any need for that-I wish he would’ve simply translated it literally instead, and then he could’ve followed that by saying, “in other words, ‘god is on our side.’”
I understand what you're saying. However, How did the German people interpret "Gott mit uns"? or "God with us." Back in the day? I think you'll find German people back then actually did interpreted literally as "God is on our side" So it's not that cringey. What's really cringey is Dembski and most of his arguments that he presented, waffle coming from a supposedly educated person like Dembski, concerning.
God's a bugger, eh? 😂😂😂
I simply love when fools make a comment, and then remove themselves from the chat so they don’t have to defend their (usually ignorant) remarks.
Don’t fault me for saying CH now knows there IS a God and he is in hell now; those are the words from God himself. Take it up with Him when it’s your turn for that life review
Ew.
Yeah, he was so smart, he knew there was no God. Always raging on Christianity, you know it's not the only Religion on the planet. I'd like to get an argument from some of these atheists on the '6 systems of Indian/Hindu Philosophy' (they probably know very little about it).
Hitchens (indeed, many of the "New Atheists like Harris, Dennett and Dawkins) has a great deal to say about Islam and a little less to say about Hinduism. Sam Harris is a fan of spirituality and often speaks well of Jains but not so well of Muslims. Dennett is a bit more up front with his disdain for all supernaturally-based belief systems. Dawkins tends to also speak up about Islam, quite a bit.
From the first 15 minutes: Hitches was a great speaker and an intelligent man, but he doesn't understand the biblical framework of creation, fall and and re-creation, or the character of a God who pours himself out for his creatures while granting them freedom to choose. These things are revealed, not induced or deduced. I'm looking forward to hearing the rest.
Astonishing how well Deists and Theists know the mind of their invisible undetectable unproven ancient mythical God which never hasa demonstrable correaltion with reality.
@@derhafi amazing how scientists think their field of study disproves god but don't see that it's the language of god.
@@jaydenwilson9522 Gods, just like unicorns have no role to play in science. Your inability to grasp the concept of science does not add credibility to your imaginary friend. A demonstrable correaltion between your god and reality would...
@@derhafi Reductionism might die a slow death as the vatican of old did but the age of scientism will undeniably come to an end as fast as it rose... unfortunate that we were born in a time of pathological science.
And it's not my inability to grasp science, I'm unable to grasp you and your ilk's dogmatic views of reality. A framework and model can only explain so much after all.
And the thing about god is that it's all about faith...
biblical framework of creation?Who told you? The talking snake?
Hitchens' description of wars and the evils of humanity eventually being rectified by the "progression" of evolution implies purpose and is contradictory to materialism. Hitchens' gift of rhetoric should not obscure his shallow answers to life's big questions.
Let me sum up Christopher's opinion; there are all sorts of things in the universe we don't understand. We can decide that God should not have made it this way, so God must not exist. After acknowledging how vast and mysterious the details of nature are, he assumes as true the latest trendy opinions in biology or speculations about prehistoric human history. These are once again taken as reasons to reject belief in God. The bottom line is that Hitchens' doesn't believe in God because he doesn't want to, and he will say as much.
He doesn't believe in god because there is no evidence that god exists .
Way to go Dempsky ! Also Christopher Hitchens is no longer an atheist.
that is true,,,dead people can't take any position.jesus is no longer a theist!
I legit felt second-hand embarrassment from hearing Dembski. Also, Hitchens died an atheist, he did not convert
Actually he was anti theist ,do your homework before commenting,you could end up as blithering idiot as Clarkson would say……
Nothing quite like Creationists perpetuating lies...it's what they do best.
This is about as offensive a comment you can’t report
The Problem is people are still acting like children. We need the world to Grow Up and leave organized Religion and Lead by Example
And NOW Hitchens knows for sure there IS a God….sadly and too late for him though.
And NOW you know nothing.
@@GayorgVonTrapp I hold a PhD in Molecular/Cellular Biology. What are your credentials? I sure a job at McDonald’s doesn’t provide you the insight needed to even understand what is being discussed. So, bless your little heart.
@@johnhoey7717 Oh. One of the big guns is in the chat. I am honoured. This should be good.
It’s gone a bit quiet in the Drive-Thru …, I’m just itching to know what part of the molecular biology curriculum deals with YOU knowing what conversations Christopher Hitchens is having NOW with some invisible spaceless being?
Chicken nuggets?
Btw .. The last qualification I obtained was in theology. A bit more pertinent to the subject matter than molecular thingywotsit majonkey. I am not impressed or convinced in any way that your qualification has fitted you well for reality.
@@GayorgVonTrapp well-said. Now it’s just about time for your next shift; aren’t you on the fryer today 🤓?
@@johnhoey7717 I may be a fryer, but you are the one on the ropes with your bizarre claim.
I can get more sense out of a tub of Mayonnaise.
Poor Chritopher , supported War in Iraq , gone and forgotten, except by a few last gasp materialist nit wits
why you watching then dipshit!
Certainly not forgotten.
Sorry hitch but the universe is not increasing its expansion rate that is an illusion of relativity.
The velocity gained bye matter at the big bang is constant not accelerating.
Congrats on the absolute mangle of evidence-based science that you misdefine and clearly don’t understand in order to arrive at bereft nonsense. Well done, really.