Paige is right but also wrong at the same time, cole did become the source of all evil, after the seer tricked him. She even tells himself when it happens, after Cole questions her where the sources power went as they put the Nexus back and she even tells him into the void, which was apparently him
The Seer was played by Debbi Morgan. Debbi's voice sounds like she could be Eartha Kitt's sister/daughter (or a close relative). They both have similar "purr-y" voices.
The series finale Piper only looked and found phoebe, she never even checked on paige to see if she could be saved. Idk it still feels like shes not part if the family, just a half sister that's there cause they needed her. Paige always just seemed to get the short end if the stick in the show to me.
I honestly would’ve preferred it. Coop and Phoebe can still have two daughters so it would’ve shown more of a mixed family element not to mention that it would’ve made the argument in season 6 with the manticore baby more interesting since Wyatt has a “dark” cousin counterpart (it would’ve actually been interesting if Phoebe’s baby was the good one and Wyatt went evil).
@@mkwhite5054 And this would quash the nature vs nurture debacle they had all the time. First it was them discovering being witches and come to terms with it and whether being a witch meant evil. Piper even had a whole episode about entering the church. Piper could still get pregnant with Wyatt a few months later. I do think the plot of Chris vs Wyatt would be changed into Phoebe's child vs Wyatt in the future and Phoebe's child traveled back in time to prevent Wyatt become evil, thus nullifying Chris.
@jranthony04 ….. um no. Phoebe literally says when she’s trapped in the cage with Paige: “it’s okay, he was never mine, or Cole’s, from the moment he took over It just felt like a black hole of energy”. It’s literally in the episode. Phoebe says to the seer: “you took my baby” The seer: “he was never yours. Or Cole’s. From the moment of conception. This baby was mine” It’s in the writing of the episode. When the seer is trying to capture Phoebe from the penthouse. Phoebe says: “you can’t have him” The seer says: I ONLY WANT WHATS MINE. I’m not sure how much more explicit the writing has to get. The writers left no room for guessing
And that's why the baby hated Paige and attacks mostly her because of her dislike for Cole even though the baby was neither Cole's or Phoebe's baby It was the Seers.
And maybe it sees her as the one who got away since she turn to evil after and reconstituted the power of three and wants to finish what it’s father started
This is cool. So sad for Phoebe's baby(I know it wasn't hers or Coles).She played nice music to him. Nice how Piper played middle sister. Same as with Prue and Phoebe
Definitely. He was a child of a source and one of the most powerful witches ever. Wyatt is just an offspring of a whitelighter and a Charmed One. I mean look at Chris. I think actually the twice blessed child prophecy would have gone to Phoebe's baby if he was born.
No. Because his powers were pure evil. Nothing good about them. This wasn’t Phoebe baby they say It in the episode. She literally says “he was never mine from the moment he took over It felt like a black hole”. Wyatt was twice blessed as the first child of a charmed one and a white lighter, and born under a constellation and also born in the haliwell manor under the nexus. Making his powers dualistic in nature. This child powers were pure evil.
Yes bc it was the first child of a Charmed one. The first is always the most powerful. Then add in the sources power. That extra mumbo jumbo nonesense about a special day that occurred when Wyatt was born was just fluff
Seer's Magic: A seer's gift allowed them various 'sight' related abilities. When a seer saw a person they were able to naturally view a person's 'aura'. The aura of a person was described as being the 'physical form of that person's emotions and beliefs. •They are more powerful than regular psychics, able to see more than just the future. They can see the past, the present, and their skills of vision are deeper. They can see and contact the dead, see the emotions of others, sense location and powers others, and more.
1st here. I was hopeing for another funny scene of when Phoebe goes "The baby made me do it". The Tall Man is a giant demon whoes body is a portal to other worlds. Possibly literally swallowed worlds before; or just the inhabitants. Cause a whole world sound farfetch'd even for Charmed. Advanced Fire Throwing is an awesome power, later to b shown for the 1st and oly time. Emitting a blow torch flame. Blue fire is very hot, but white fires is the hottest of them all.
You know what I never understood. It homies power was able to swallow folks and transport them. Why did none of the previous sources , the seer herself, or any evil doer ever think to use the guy locked up downstairs to defeat them. Why not use him to take out their family tree when the prophecy was written egos ago? 😅
1:23 everybody pities Paige because how she was treated in this season by her 'sisters' but this angry attitude towards Phoebe's child and really towards Phoebe herself was such a jerk move. Like it's Phoebe's fault all this is happening? Let's not forget how Paige herself distanced herself from sisters when it was HER turn to have a 'boyfriend'. Let's face it, every sister acts all sisterly but as soon as it becomes personal they turn on each other just like that!
What do you call a female seer? They are also referred to with many other names meaning "prophetess", "staff bearer" and "sorceress", and they are frequently called witches both in early sources and in modern scholarship. In Norse mythology the seeress is usually referred to as völva or vala.
This wasn’t Cole or Phoebe child. Also Not Cole Jr. they say It in the episode. It was the source & the seer. The seer: “he was never yours….. or Cole’s, from the moment of conception this baby was mine”. The episode is titled “womb raiders” for the evil energy trying to take over Phoebe body and womb. People keep getting It confused that Phoebe lost a child. She didn’t mourn him because this child wasn’t hers. Lol Phoebe literally says when she’s trapped in the cage with Paige: “it’s okay, he was never mine, or Cole’s, from the moment he took over It just felt like a black hole of energy”. Phoebe says to the seer: “you took my baby” The seer: “he was never yours. Or Cole’s. From the moment of conception. This baby was mine” When the seer is trying to capture Phoebe from the penthouse. Phoebe says: “you can’t have him” The seer says: “I ONLY WANT WHATS MINE”
That wasn't literally. It was , ifiguratively. The seer concocted the entire plan from the moment the source took the hollow. The ONLY reason the seer was allowed to gain the title of "the source" was bc the child belonged to him. No way are we to believe that the seer somehow created a baby powerful enough to kill a demon that the source himself couldn't vanquish...and was powerful enough to not only kill the some of the source best demons, but also most of the council. The baby was conceived by a charmed one and the source of ALL EVIL..and it's powers and "dark black personality" is proof. The seer was the mastermind behind the plan that led to its birth.
@bifa5414 you commented this already and that’s the personal opinion. What’s a fact is, It was LITERAL. It’s in the script and in the show. The baby was Phoebes or Cole’s. It’s stated 4 times throughout the script
What does it mean to be a seer? •A person endowed with profound moral and spiritual insight or knowledge; a wise person or sage who possesses intuitive powers. a person who is reputed to have special powers of divination, as a crystal gazer or palmist. •A person who sees something specified. •A person of supposed supernatural insight who sees visions of the future.
I hate that style of Pheobe's hair, what a waste of such a beaty that she owns. Pheobe was gorgeous in the first three season, but after Prue has "left" she gone chaos, the story sucks.
If this really Phoebe and Cole’s child if the Writers weren’t being Phoebe from Friends with Cole and Phoebe’s relationship I think the Child would be protecting his Aunty Paige
Seers Powers/Abilities: •In mythology, seers are able to see things that other people cannot and, based on their observations, can provide otherwise unseen insights into current events or potential future outcomes. •Gifted Seers have the ability to create Prophecies, which can determine the future of various witches and wizards, and in the case of Harry Potter, change the course of wizarding history. •A seer is a prophet who sees visions. They see what God is doing and revealing, rather than just hearing his words. So a seer is a prophet, but a prophet isn't necessarily a seer. It's not that a seer doesn't hear God's voice, or that a prophet doesn't see him in the spirit. •Premonition - Ability to see and experience the present, past, and future through visions. Seers have also been shown to be able to call forth visions and see prophecies. Enhanced Intuition - due to having premonitions, they have a sort of sense of things that are going to happen shortly without visions.
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I love how despite piper now being the eldest. She still plays the role of the middle sister.
30 years of experience, give or take xP
SAME! 😂
Paige was right all along. She trusted her gut instinct. But now Phoebe is preggos with Cole's demonspawn
Paige is right but also wrong at the same time, cole did become the source of all evil, after the seer tricked him. She even tells himself when it happens, after Cole questions her where the sources power went as they put the Nexus back and she even tells him into the void, which was apparently him
"You've been a little fresh all day" - Yesssss...
The Seer was one of the best recurring characters on charmed
Debbie Morgan is a phenomenal actress
She deserved an spin off
Phoebe was using this baby as an excuse 😂😂
Cause Paige was always right about cole
Even tho demon baby hates her guts
@@laurafabianmarrero fact
I agree
Excellent acting from all parties.
I always wanted Pheobe and Cole's baby to be on the show ....
Right, so many missed writing opportunities especially if they made the baby truly Phoebe's and Cole's
It wasn’t Phoebe and Cole child. It was the source & seer. They literally say It in the episode
@@COSMICCFREQUENCY144they acknowledge that, their point is it would’ve been more interesting had the baby actually been phoebes and coles.
@@COSMICCFREQUENCY144 yes Phoebe was a surrogate
@@COSMICCFREQUENCY144 It was
I always loved the seer’s teleportation/materialization look with the outlined rainbow
"Would rather listen to Ozzy." 😂
Funny that The Seer did all this to get the Source’s baby but when she got it she died 😂 Too weak to carry to term.
The Seer was played by Debbi Morgan. Debbi's voice sounds like she could be Eartha Kitt's sister/daughter (or a close relative). They both have similar "purr-y" voices.
Baby's nickname is Chucky and he's not offended of that name at all, he likes that name 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Paige was right about phoebe using the baby as an excuse
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Paige was abused so much in this show, specially season 4
I just said this the other day rewatching season four. 😢
Paige first thinking and understand what Cole this Evil , and Cole tried drive her crazy , and him baby hates Page
The series finale Piper only looked and found phoebe, she never even checked on paige to see if she could be saved. Idk it still feels like shes not part if the family, just a half sister that's there cause they needed her.
Paige always just seemed to get the short end if the stick in the show to me.
I always wished Phoebe delivered this child! It wouldve been so cool seeing how everything changed due to it
I honestly would’ve preferred it. Coop and Phoebe can still have two daughters so it would’ve shown more of a mixed family element not to mention that it would’ve made the argument in season 6 with the manticore baby more interesting since Wyatt has a “dark” cousin counterpart (it would’ve actually been interesting if Phoebe’s baby was the good one and Wyatt went evil).
@@mkwhite5054 And this would quash the nature vs nurture debacle they had all the time. First it was them discovering being witches and come to terms with it and whether being a witch meant evil. Piper even had a whole episode about entering the church. Piper could still get pregnant with Wyatt a few months later. I do think the plot of Chris vs Wyatt would be changed into Phoebe's child vs Wyatt in the future and Phoebe's child traveled back in time to prevent Wyatt become evil, thus nullifying Chris.
Ah Yes let’s make Perry Halliwell the New Source of evil after they Vanquished Cole. Phoebe would definitely have a problem
Me 2
Phoebe's baby was reincarnated and it was Wyatt
Piper being the peacemaker
always
Piper played the role of the eldest sister excellently in this scene
I've been watching charmed on Pluto TV it's been awesome ❤
I just wish pluto had the full screen version, hate seeing it on a square box in my tv, I feel like I miss everything on the sides
The baby wasn't human. It was a demon. It sensed that Paige was a threat and wanted to get rid of her
Welp, Cole Jr. definitely takes it after his dad
Not Cole Jr. they say It in the episode. It was the source & the seer.
The seer: from the moment of conception this baby was mine.
@@COSMICCFREQUENCY144probably bc she had a premonition of her ruling with the child in her belly and her ruling. Doesn’t mean she is bio mom tho
@jranthony04 ….. um no.
Phoebe literally says when she’s trapped in the cage with Paige: “it’s okay, he was never mine, or Cole’s, from the moment he took over It just felt like a black hole of energy”. It’s literally in the episode.
Phoebe says to the seer: “you took my baby”
The seer: “he was never yours. Or Cole’s. From the moment of conception. This baby was mine”
It’s in the writing of the episode. When the seer is trying to capture Phoebe from the penthouse.
Phoebe says: “you can’t have him”
The seer says: I ONLY WANT WHATS MINE.
I’m not sure how much more explicit the writing has to get. The writers left no room for guessing
@@Jranthony04 phoebe was a surrogate
And that's why the baby hated Paige and attacks mostly her because of her dislike for Cole even though the baby was neither Cole's or Phoebe's baby It was the Seers.
And Paige as a social worker could immediately spot the evil in people
And maybe it sees her as the one who got away since she turn to evil after and reconstituted the power of three and wants to finish what it’s father started
I love how Piper says Demonic fetuses.
Well, Phoebe is right because the cops will come right at her to know where is Cole and how he was turned into ashes.
I saw the dude in the cage and the first thing that popped into my head was, "Voldemort!" Haha
"chucky" 🤣🤣🤣
This is cool. So sad for Phoebe's baby(I know it wasn't hers or Coles).She played nice music to him. Nice how Piper played middle sister. Same as with Prue and Phoebe
The Seer was one smart evil lady.
I love to see Piper protective over Paige
If Chucky hates Paige, he would absolutely HATE Prue🤣🤣🤣
The real enemy of this season were those bangs
When I was in school I watch this show, when I saw Debbi Morgan I had a huge crush on her and i still do.
The seer was my favourite villain
I have a lot of issue with the Cole odyssey, but I always adored the seer's actress
Charmed sisters Love Shannon Doherty Rose Love my favorite one fan BIG 💖💖💖💖💖💖🎶🌁
I wonder if the baby would have been more powerful then wyatt?
Definitely. He was a child of a source and one of the most powerful witches ever.
Wyatt is just an offspring of a whitelighter and a Charmed One. I mean look at Chris.
I think actually the twice blessed child prophecy would have gone to Phoebe's baby if he was born.
No. Because his powers were pure evil. Nothing good about them. This wasn’t Phoebe baby they say It in the episode. She literally says “he was never mine from the moment he took over It felt like a black hole”. Wyatt was twice blessed as the first child of a charmed one and a white lighter, and born under a constellation and also born in the haliwell manor under the nexus. Making his powers dualistic in nature. This child powers were pure evil.
@TCt83067695 Wyatt was stronger though because he was the 1st born. He was born in the manor on an extremely spiritual day as well.
Yes because he was the first baby of charmed so he was powerful and the his father was the source
Yes bc it was the first child of a Charmed one. The first is always the most powerful. Then add in the sources power.
That extra mumbo jumbo nonesense about a special day that occurred when Wyatt was born was just fluff
What did Lurch do to end up in time out?
Love this show
Take a deep breath sweet Piper ^^
Obviously the baby doesn't like Paige , decent fruit, and potion. What next s lol 😅😅😅😅😅
Seer's Magic:
A seer's gift allowed them various 'sight' related abilities. When a seer saw a person they were able to naturally view a person's 'aura'. The aura of a person was described as being the 'physical form of that person's emotions and beliefs.
•They are more powerful than regular psychics, able to see more than just the future. They can see the past, the present, and their skills of vision are deeper. They can see and contact the dead, see the emotions of others, sense location and powers others, and more.
Such a sturdy, magical cage. It was bending, when he was barely touching it 😂
I actually remember this episode❤
It definitely would of attacked prue.
Too bad that the baby belong to the seer. The Seer was the instigator either that or she was using Cole and Phoebe to get what she wanted.
1st here. I was hopeing for another funny scene of when Phoebe goes "The baby made me do it".
The Tall Man is a giant demon whoes body is a portal to other worlds. Possibly literally swallowed worlds before; or just the inhabitants. Cause a whole world sound farfetch'd even for Charmed.
Advanced Fire Throwing is an awesome power, later to b shown for the 1st and oly time. Emitting a blow torch flame. Blue fire is very hot, but white fires is the hottest of them all.
You know what I never understood. It homies power was able to swallow folks and transport them. Why did none of the previous sources , the seer herself, or any evil doer ever think to use the guy locked up downstairs to defeat them. Why not use him to take out their family tree when the prophecy was written egos ago? 😅
Miss them
There was no spillage though I think the potion was airborne lol
3:44 So, she's really saying that it's just like light doesn't even escape a black hole's gravity?
1:23 everybody pities Paige because how she was treated in this season by her 'sisters' but this angry attitude towards Phoebe's child and really towards Phoebe herself was such a jerk move. Like it's Phoebe's fault all this is happening?
Let's not forget how Paige herself distanced herself from sisters when it was HER turn to have a 'boyfriend'.
Let's face it, every sister acts all sisterly but as soon as it becomes personal they turn on each other just like that!
What do you call a female seer?
They are also referred to with many other names meaning "prophetess", "staff bearer" and "sorceress", and they are frequently called witches both in early sources and in modern scholarship. In Norse mythology the seeress is usually referred to as völva or vala.
I'm amazed I never recognised the demon's accent before.
3:45 Not even magic. You know, it's just the same as not even light can escape a black hole. The magic can emit light.
This wasn’t Cole or Phoebe child.
Also Not Cole Jr. they say It in the episode. It was the source & the seer.
The seer: “he was never yours….. or Cole’s, from the moment of conception this baby was mine”.
The episode is titled “womb raiders” for the evil energy trying to take over Phoebe body and womb. People keep getting It confused that Phoebe lost a child. She didn’t mourn him because this child wasn’t hers. Lol
Phoebe literally says when she’s trapped in the cage with Paige: “it’s okay, he was never mine, or Cole’s, from the moment he took over It just felt like a black hole of energy”.
Phoebe says to the seer: “you took my baby”
The seer: “he was never yours. Or Cole’s. From the moment of conception. This baby was mine”
When the seer is trying to capture Phoebe from the penthouse.
Phoebe says: “you can’t have him”
The seer says: “I ONLY WANT WHATS MINE”
Non consensual surrogacy. Oh my.
@@ryanharrell931lol wicked right.
That wasn't literally. It was , ifiguratively. The seer concocted the entire plan from the moment the source took the hollow. The ONLY reason the seer was allowed to gain the title of "the source" was bc the child belonged to him.
No way are we to believe that the seer somehow created a baby powerful enough to kill a demon that the source himself couldn't vanquish...and was powerful enough to not only kill the some of the source best demons, but also most of the council.
The baby was conceived by a charmed one and the source of ALL EVIL..and it's powers and "dark black personality" is proof. The seer was the mastermind behind the plan that led to its birth.
@bifa5414 you commented this already and that’s the personal opinion. What’s a fact is, It was LITERAL. It’s in the script and in the show. The baby was Phoebes or Cole’s. It’s stated 4 times throughout the script
Rose McGowan was hot with long hair moreso when it was dyed red but it was Alyssa Milano who've I've fell in love with back in the day ❤️
The giant from twin peaks showing up on Charmed
Piper was better as older sister
What’s the seer real name?
Debbi Morgan
@ thanks
What does it mean to be a seer?
•A person endowed with profound moral and spiritual insight or knowledge; a wise person or sage who possesses intuitive powers. a person who is reputed to have special powers of divination, as a crystal gazer or palmist.
•A person who sees something specified.
•A person of supposed supernatural insight who sees visions of the future.
Does the baby hate paige because she hated daddy or because she is part angel?
Why that potion looking so dry? 👀
Carel Struycken?? nice
I hate that style of Pheobe's hair, what a waste of such a beaty that she owns. Pheobe was gorgeous in the first three season, but after Prue has "left" she gone chaos, the story sucks.
If this baby doesnt like paige bc she doesnt like cole then the baby would DEFINITELY hate prue-
If this really Phoebe and Cole’s child if the Writers weren’t being Phoebe from Friends with Cole and Phoebe’s relationship I think the Child would be protecting his Aunty Paige
Paige was spot on.
Phoebe was always selfish.
Wat season is dis
Season 4
Who was the peacemaker when Prue was on?
Piper because it was always Prue and Phoebe at each other’s throats.
Piper
@@BooneErica thanks
Paige is literally Prue😂❤
I dont not 😂
Seers Powers/Abilities:
•In mythology, seers are able to see things that other people cannot and, based on their observations, can provide otherwise unseen insights into current events or potential future outcomes.
•Gifted Seers have the ability to create Prophecies, which can determine the future of various witches and wizards, and in the case of Harry Potter, change the course of wizarding history.
•A seer is a prophet who sees visions. They see what God is doing and revealing, rather than just hearing his words. So a seer is a prophet, but a prophet isn't necessarily a seer. It's not that a seer doesn't hear God's voice, or that a prophet doesn't see him in the spirit.
•Premonition - Ability to see and experience the present, past, and future through visions. Seers have also been shown to be able to call forth visions and see prophecies. Enhanced Intuition - due to having premonitions, they have a sort of sense of things that are going to happen shortly without visions.
Prue y Piper forever
Why is the baby angry at Paige?
Doesn't Phoebe lose the baby?
The baby was never hers to begin with.
Thank God Phoebe never had a
Baby with Cole.
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Ive never liked Phoebe. Shes a selfish brat
True.
I never liked Cole
I wish charmed could have been piper, pru and Paige. Never liked Phoebe.
I love thhis show Beverly lendyak can we part waves you don't have two put up with a microscopic midget nomore Dean gurham back online Shawn Roderick rest inpeace rest in peace Trinity heafner