Aaah yes, wish this video existed before! Really clear explanation. One more tip: if you're like me and sometimes forget to click "delete files permanently", you'll probably notice that you cannot delete them from you hard drive easily anymore. But you can add the whole media folder to the audio pool (drag n drop), and then use remove unused files with delete permanently again!
In your song drop down there's Locate missing devices that doesn't work like the Locate missing files please help its annoying have to keep asking my mixing engineer to snapshot plugin settings he made thank you
Can you do vid on finding existing plugins Example I send out session to be mixed I have all the plugins in the session but for some reason when I open the session from being mixed a few of the plugins might be in red and I have to have the mixing engineer send me a snapshot of what he did in that plugin
Keep in mind the "remove unused files" and agree to DELETE PERMANENTLY it can be a bit dangerous because if you didn't copy the file over to the PROJECT folder it will actually delete them flat out from your PC. So if you use a KICK sample from your KICK SAMPLES folder you can ACCIDENTALLY delete it permanently. So please make sure to keep track of the directory before you just blindly agree to delete it.
There is a bug with this. It does not work on a Mac if the files system is a NAS share (AFS/CIFS etc). It comes up with an error. It has been reported (and proven) as a bug and has not yet been fixed!!!! PLEASE GET IT FIXED!!!!
Thanks for the video Joe. One thing: you didn’t mention what happens when audio is deleted from the current version but it’s still used in a previous version. I suppose in this situation S1 will consider the file to be in use, right?
The bottom line is, do all this but make sure you have a full backup then you really can’t go wrong. I work on a PC and I have a robocopy script that copies all changed or added files in my folders to a big backup drive. I run this after each session and before I do any of this.
If you don't tick the delete box to delete unused files from the pool and your hard drive, then you have to manually go to your file system and delete the unused files from the song folder. It would be better if the software asked you upon exiting if you wanted to delete these.
You don’t want to make it too easy to delete these files as they might be referenced by other song projects - which would suddenly end up having orphaned audio clips. -GBY
How do we do when we removed unused files in the pool without deleting them and we want to delete them after while , how do we select them as they are already no longer showing up in the pool? I have plenty of songs which are clean in the pool but not in the media folder, as I thought It was deleting them there too.
Hey Joe! How are you? Something weird happened while mixing one of my songs... As usual once I have all my tracks done I start mixing them and after I'm done I export the mixdown to obtain a WAV file. I do this back and forth to listen to the song on my audio system, my car or my iphone. If it's not ok I reload my session to make my adjustments. During one of these actions I needed to change something on the bass track and when tried to reload the session, the SONG file just disappeared. I've been looking for it for almost 2 weeks now and it is nowhere to be found... Not on the Mac, not on the cloud and not on my external backup drive. I've been at the FB presonus community group for help, but nobody knows what could have been happened. Note: if I would have deleted it by accident it still should be in my trash folder, which can only be deleted manually. How is this possible????? I worked 3 weeks on this song and is gone now. I do have the latest exported WAV file which I can't correct anymore. Could you shed some light here. Thank you!!!
Joe is there a way to upload a "Collaboration" to Sphere and tell it NOT to upload "unused" files? Because I don't want to delete them locally, but I don't want to wait until tomorrow for the upload to finish. My collaborators don't need to "undo" or stuff like that.
When someone sends me audio files to mix, when I import the wav files does studio one copy the files to its project folder or do I have to manually copy these files after importing? I do remember few times I imported the files then I deleted from my download folder, then the files were missing when opening the project. Can you tell me how this works? Thank you!
What about the cache folder? For me, it's about 6 GB and that's quite a lot. What happens if I delete them? Will I be in trouble? I was originally hunting for a solution to this problem
Hi, deleting the cache can do no harm as the cache folder will be reconstructed anyway when you re-open the project. 6GB does sound like quite a lot...hopefully clearing the cache can solve the issues you're having! -GBY
Off topic a bit but noticed when u drag over files it rendered quickly, guess wav files. Is there a way to get mp3 files to render as quickly. Case example for me is setting out a radio show so in basic form 3 tracks, voice, jingle and music I need to have 30ish music files put in and it takes for ever due to wav conversion. Just wondered if there was an option to speed up the process. Thanks Terry
@@hallongview I could and I have started to use wav but have thousand of mp3 and not sure changing to wav ideal? Granted mp3 quality already poor starting point but Audition "cough" does the conversion in a matter of seconds. Just want to use one daw for all types of stuff but may have to swap between both. Radio in other and fun stuff in Studio 1. Thanks anyway.
Hi Joe. Loving all your videos, please keep it up. I hope you can help with an issue I'm just having. I've recorded multiple background vocals, double tracked, panned hard left and right but they're showing on my phase meter to be mostly out of phase, but not constantly. Each vocal was recorded separately not duplicated. Really hope you can help
The fact you can delete files from disc that are NOT in you S1 project folder, and the lack of quickly being able to see those in the unused manager, makes this deleting of physical files terrible. It is way too easy to, by accident, remove source samples that are shared amongst projects. And I simply cannot get my head around it that this was not yet improved, while the feature requests are there and anyone messing with this immediately feels this current workflow is risky and not well thought out!
Maybe I'm not understanding your comment, but the window clearly shows you the path for every unused file, so you can tell which files are in the song folder and which ones aren't. - Joe Gilder
@@presonus I'll try to explain in more detail. The window does indeed show the full path, and that is a way to filter out the right files indeed. But in a large project, the list can be quite long and filtering the ones you need to remove is a very tedious job. It would help if you could quickly only show project files or external files. The idea of using 'remove unused files' is for either 1 of 2 reasons: 1. You want to clean your session's pool 2. You want to optimize your projects footprint on disc It makes perfectly sense to delete unused files within your project folder, and it works perfectly as S1 knows exactly what's used and what's not. But S1 should not allow you to physically delete external files, for three important reasons: 1. There is no way, S1 can know if an external file is used in an other project, so it cannot know if it's really unused 2. Physically removing external files does not clean up you project folder, as the files aren't even in there. So for project management, it's pointless to delete them 3. It's very likely they external files are part of a sample library, potentially used in multiple projects If you by accident clicked an external file while doing a physical delete, you have probably lost a source sample. If you forget to click the checkbox to delete the physical files, in a bigger project it's nearly impossible to clean up the disc space afterwards (maybe the new zip function can help there).
Great feature. Imagine having a few hundred songs with unused files like these. Lot's of insert effects (and virtual instruments) so each song takes quite a while to open. A global cleaning feature would be much faster and easier. I think Cubase has a function where if you hit Ctrl Backspace) it deletes the event from the arranger and the hard drive while working on a song. Even better... How about adding a setting in Preferences that if flagged will delete events from the hard drive (send it to trash or recycle bin for safety), every time you delete and event. That would be super cool. How about having the ability to convert archived project media files to FLAC, also with a global function. No harm in dreaming.
Hi Joe, Sorry this is an off-topic question. But, I know that you use a Presonus Desk and I'm think about getting one, but I was wondering what the latency is like between desk and Studio One. I use Console 1 and Console 1 Fader most of the time and that is zero latency and my audio interface is zero latency and even my instrument tracks when using 'Direct Monitoring.' That's with 30 or more tracks, how would a Presonus mixer affect that and I'd hopefully also be able to send headphoone mixes with zero latency and without direct monitoring. Thanks in advance. Great Vid as usual.
Omgoodnesss...I wished this video was up last week before I messed 5 sessions :( I deleted unused files in one session and ticked "remove permanently", I didn't know that the other songs were referencing from the same directory :( I had to link the files one by one from the recycle bin :(
SIR, CAN YOU PLZ DEMONSTRATE HOW WE CAN CONFIGURE MULTI-I/O FROM THE SHOW PAGE? AND HOW IT COULD WORK IN A REAL ENVIRONMENT OF A LIVE STAGE SHOW WITH A STAGE BOX OR SOMETHING? AND HOW CAN WE CONNECT A STAGE BOX TO OUR MAIN SYSTEM (LAPTOP OR PC)? BY THE WAY, SENDING LOVE❤ FROM INDIA!
Fantastic video. Just experienced this after I almost 💩 my pants in front of a Client thinking I lost some samples I used from an external drive, but then disconnected the drive since it belonged to another computer, wheeew....
Hi Joe if you remove an unused layer but part of that layer was used in your final comp track, would you lose that portion of audio which was originally part of the unused layer you have deleted? Hope this makes sense
Hi, is there a function in Studio One to Remove Unused Tracks from a session? I typically start with a template, drag audio in and then delete the tracks that don't have any audio. I'd like a simple option that scans tracks that have no events and removes them.
Hello Joe thank you for your information and demonstrations of Many of the options Of the system. For me you’re just moving too fast just kind of clicking and moving and talking it’s just too fast for somebody who is relatively new to this
Aaah yes, wish this video existed before! Really clear explanation.
One more tip: if you're like me and sometimes forget to click "delete files permanently", you'll probably notice that you cannot delete them from you hard drive easily anymore. But you can add the whole media folder to the audio pool (drag n drop), and then use remove unused files with delete permanently again!
Nice, I found myself in this situation before several times. Appreciate it!
In your song drop down there's Locate missing devices that doesn't work like the Locate missing files please help its annoying have to keep asking my mixing engineer to snapshot plugin settings he made thank you
I think the main takeaway from this is: make sure you bring all files into your song project. Thanks Joe.
Can you do vid on finding existing plugins
Example I send out session to be mixed I have all the plugins in the session but for some reason when I open the session from being mixed a few of the plugins might be in red and I have to have the mixing engineer send me a snapshot of what he did in that plugin
Keep in mind the "remove unused files" and agree to DELETE PERMANENTLY it can be a bit dangerous because if you didn't copy the file over to the PROJECT folder it will actually delete them flat out from your PC.
So if you use a KICK sample from your KICK SAMPLES folder you can ACCIDENTALLY delete it permanently. So please make sure to keep track of the directory before you just blindly agree to delete it.
also if you mess up in the final or want another take to be used you can find it!!
There is a bug with this. It does not work on a Mac if the files system is a NAS share (AFS/CIFS etc). It comes up with an error. It has been reported (and proven) as a bug and has not yet been fixed!!!! PLEASE GET IT FIXED!!!!
Just installed 5.4 and it still has the issue!!!!!!!! Please could someone from Presonus explain why this bug is being ignored
Thanks for the video Joe. One thing: you didn’t mention what happens when audio is deleted from the current version but it’s still used in a previous version. I suppose in this situation S1 will consider the file to be in use, right?
The bottom line is, do all this but make sure you have a full backup then you really can’t go wrong. I work on a PC and I have a robocopy script that copies all changed or added files in my folders to a big backup drive. I run this after each session and before I do any of this.
When all is done, Safe to new folder is just the best option
If you don't tick the delete box to delete unused files from the pool and your hard drive, then you have to manually go to your file system and delete the unused files from the song folder. It would be better if the software asked you upon exiting if you wanted to delete these.
You don’t want to make it too easy to delete these files as they might be referenced by other song projects - which would suddenly end up having orphaned audio clips. -GBY
How do we do when we removed unused files in the pool without deleting them and we want to delete them after while , how do we select them as they are already no longer showing up in the pool? I have plenty of songs which are clean in the pool but not in the media folder, as I thought It was deleting them there too.
Hey Joe! How are you? Something weird happened while mixing one of my songs... As usual once I have all my tracks done I start mixing them and after I'm done I export the mixdown to obtain a WAV file. I do this back and forth to listen to the song on my audio system, my car or my iphone. If it's not ok I reload my session to make my adjustments. During one of these actions I needed to change something on the bass track and when tried to reload the session, the SONG file just disappeared. I've been looking for it for almost 2 weeks now and it is nowhere to be found... Not on the Mac, not on the cloud and not on my external backup drive. I've been at the FB presonus community group for help, but nobody knows what could have been happened. Note: if I would have deleted it by accident it still should be in my trash folder, which can only be deleted manually. How is this possible????? I worked 3 weeks on this song and is gone now. I do have the latest exported WAV file which I can't correct anymore. Could you shed some light here. Thank you!!!
Joe is there a way to upload a "Collaboration" to Sphere and tell it NOT to upload "unused" files? Because I don't want to delete them locally, but I don't want to wait until tomorrow for the upload to finish. My collaborators don't need to "undo" or stuff like that.
Is there a way to do this in a "batch" way without opening each song file individually?
When someone sends me audio files to mix, when I import the wav files does studio one copy the files to its project folder or do I have to manually copy these files after importing? I do remember few times I imported the files then I deleted from my download folder, then the files were missing when opening the project. Can you tell me how this works? Thank you!
what about when you hit "merge to audio part" and then remove unused files and your original files are gone?
Loooooooook how far we've come, a mother's only pride, somehow I have Joe Gilder's lyrics stuck in my mind
Hey Joe, How about an auto copy by default as I also ways do this. Then select the ask option if you don't or vice versa?
What is the R stands for??
What about the cache folder? For me, it's about 6 GB and that's quite a lot. What happens if I delete them? Will I be in trouble? I was originally hunting for a solution to this problem
Hi, deleting the cache can do no harm as the cache folder will be reconstructed anyway when you re-open the project. 6GB does sound like quite a lot...hopefully clearing the cache can solve the issues you're having! -GBY
@@presonus Awesome! Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply. I was still sitting on 6gb worth of cache and can finally clear it!
Off topic a bit but noticed when u drag over files it rendered quickly, guess wav files. Is there a way to get mp3 files to render as quickly. Case example for me is setting out a radio show so in basic form 3 tracks, voice, jingle and music I need to have 30ish music files put in and it takes for ever due to wav conversion. Just wondered if there was an option to speed up the process. Thanks Terry
Are you not able to just make a wave version of the tracks and use those so the process is a lot more smooth?
@@hallongview I could and I have started to use wav but have thousand of mp3 and not sure changing to wav ideal? Granted mp3 quality already poor starting point but Audition "cough" does the conversion in a matter of seconds. Just want to use one daw for all types of stuff but may have to swap between both. Radio in other and fun stuff in Studio 1. Thanks anyway.
Hi Joe. Loving all your videos, please keep it up. I hope you can help with an issue I'm just having. I've recorded multiple background vocals, double tracked, panned hard left and right but they're showing on my phase meter to be mostly out of phase, but not constantly. Each vocal was recorded separately not duplicated. Really hope you can help
The fact you can delete files from disc that are NOT in you S1 project folder, and the lack of quickly being able to see those in the unused manager, makes this deleting of physical files terrible.
It is way too easy to, by accident, remove source samples that are shared amongst projects. And I simply cannot get my head around it that this was not yet improved, while the feature requests are there and anyone messing with this immediately feels this current workflow is risky and not well thought out!
Maybe I'm not understanding your comment, but the window clearly shows you the path for every unused file, so you can tell which files are in the song folder and which ones aren't. - Joe Gilder
@@presonus I'll try to explain in more detail. The window does indeed show the full path, and that is a way to filter out the right files indeed. But in a large project, the list can be quite long and filtering the ones you need to remove is a very tedious job. It would help if you could quickly only show project files or external files.
The idea of using 'remove unused files' is for either 1 of 2 reasons:
1. You want to clean your session's pool
2. You want to optimize your projects footprint on disc
It makes perfectly sense to delete unused files within your project folder, and it works perfectly as S1 knows exactly what's used and what's not. But S1 should not allow you to physically delete external files, for three important reasons:
1. There is no way, S1 can know if an external file is used in an other project, so it cannot know if it's really unused
2. Physically removing external files does not clean up you project folder, as the files aren't even in there. So for project management, it's pointless to delete them
3. It's very likely they external files are part of a sample library, potentially used in multiple projects
If you by accident clicked an external file while doing a physical delete, you have probably lost a source sample.
If you forget to click the checkbox to delete the physical files, in a bigger project it's nearly impossible to clean up the disc space afterwards (maybe the new zip function can help there).
Hi! Thanks for the tuts! Quick question, does it also remove files that are used in other versions?
This was really enlightening!!! Yes, having all needed files copied within the project and practicing good project hygiene satisfies my OCD LOL!
Great feature. Imagine having a few hundred songs with unused files like these. Lot's of insert effects (and virtual instruments) so each song takes quite a while to open. A global cleaning feature would be much faster and easier. I think Cubase has a function where if you hit Ctrl Backspace) it deletes the event from the arranger and the hard drive while working on a song. Even better... How about adding a setting in Preferences that if flagged will delete events from the hard drive (send it to trash or recycle bin for safety), every time you delete and event. That would be super cool. How about having the ability to convert archived project media files to FLAC, also with a global function. No harm in dreaming.
OK, but is this unused files for this VERSION or files that are not used in ANY version of the project?
Such a helpful video! Thanks!
Hi Joe,
Sorry this is an off-topic question. But, I know that you use a Presonus Desk and I'm think about getting one, but I was wondering what the latency is like between desk and Studio One.
I use Console 1 and Console 1 Fader most of the time and that is zero latency and my audio interface is zero latency and even my instrument tracks when using 'Direct Monitoring.' That's with 30 or more tracks, how would a Presonus mixer affect that and I'd hopefully also be able to send headphoone mixes with zero latency and without direct monitoring.
Thanks in advance. Great Vid as usual.
Omgoodnesss...I wished this video was up last week before I messed 5 sessions :(
I deleted unused files in one session and ticked "remove permanently", I didn't know that the other songs were referencing from the same directory :( I had to link the files one by one from the recycle bin :(
SIR, CAN YOU PLZ DEMONSTRATE HOW WE CAN CONFIGURE MULTI-I/O FROM THE SHOW PAGE? AND HOW IT COULD WORK IN A REAL ENVIRONMENT OF A LIVE STAGE SHOW WITH A STAGE BOX OR SOMETHING? AND HOW CAN WE CONNECT A STAGE BOX TO OUR MAIN SYSTEM (LAPTOP OR PC)? BY THE WAY, SENDING LOVE❤ FROM INDIA!
Won-derrrrrrrr-ful topic and video!
Most of you, all you need here is from 7:00 to 7:03, ignore the rest
in studio one is there time warp/warp grid function like in cubase? What tool is it?
Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! I think this track is going to be a classic. :-)
Add to pool macro please..
Fantastic video. Just experienced this after I almost 💩 my pants in front of a Client thinking I lost some samples I used from an external drive, but then disconnected the drive since it belonged to another computer, wheeew....
Very useful, thank you.
A global washer would be useful either ... may be for a next version ...
Hi Joe if you remove an unused layer but part of that layer was used in your final comp track, would you lose that portion of audio which was originally part of the unused layer you have deleted? Hope this makes sense
Very helpful! Thanks again for all you do!
Oh yeah I got some decluttering to do,very helpful,thanks man!🤖🛸
Hi, is there a function in Studio One to Remove Unused Tracks from a session? I typically start with a template, drag audio in and then delete the tracks that don't have any audio. I'd like a simple option that scans tracks that have no events and removes them.
Very useful. Thank you so much. I‘ve forgotten the checkmark
Great informative video Thank you
Great video, as always. Thanks, bro
Thank you ❤️❤️❤️
I needed that.
Joe great info, however you move to fast for me in your Videos. There are so many options in the technology is great
Nice
joe choosing his 'blank' template
the voc track: o hello
In cakewalk you can do it globally and for all songs. That’s be neat.
🔥❤️❤️🔥🔥
Hello Joe thank you for your information and demonstrations of Many of the options Of the system. For me you’re just moving too fast just kind of clicking and moving and talking it’s just too fast for somebody who is relatively new to this
I want to uninstall it belongs to a hacker