Good video! I still have the KRK S8.4 sub with my Rokit 7 G4 audio monitors and it seems to work very well. The woofer in the Rokit 7 G4 is actually 6.5 inches so the 8 inch subwoofer is a good fit. I would have gotten the S10.4 if I had the room for it which I don't. I have the grilles on all of them and they fit easily and don't seem to hinder the sound at all. Now I have Rokit 8 G4s with my MacBook side of the studio and I don't feel they need a subwoofer for the music I record.
Thanks, GER. Yes, the 8.4 is a super match for your Rocket 7 with 6.5 inch woofers. Good to know about the grill fitting easily. Roket 8's have plenty of bass on their own, as you say, for use with your MacBook. Enjoy and keep being creative!
Now that you have made a review on the 8s and 10s, to complete the series we would like to see the 12s hopefully. You're the only youtuber that seems to stand out on these krk subwoofers along with 2 other english speaking folks. I believe it would sound good even in a small to medium room, there's people that consider the svs 1000 good for small to medium rooms and that subwoofer extends even lower than the krk 12s at -3db. The krk have more spl capability but less bass extension compared to other subs that don't have xlr connectors in the price category. I guess all you would have to do is keep the volume knob lower and enjoy even more extension from the krk 12s, I bet you will hear a difference regardless of initial theoritical thoughts. Maybe ask krk to send you one for review? I think they would. What we would like to know is a comparison between the 10s and 12s, is that extra bass extension really worth the extra budget. We all know the 10s are better than the 8s at this point, but the new 12.4s remain kind of mysterious on youtube. Nobody is talking about it except a salesman from a dj channel who doesn't describe it in detail but rather tries to sell it through emotional expressions. The krk range of subs all have high spl, but they also have little power. The 12s is only 220w. Usually 12 inch subs have way more wattage than that, I guess they have an efficient design.
Good points, Marc. I would not be able to review the S12.4 affectively in my small studio as the physics just would not allow for it, though you are right in what you say - the extra bass extension would surely be noticeable, but probably not in a 'flat' neutral way. Worth noting that SVS subs are designed more for home cinema than home recording studio in that they are tuned in such a way that they bring some extra sonic stuff to the party, stuff you don't want in a mixing studio. The KRK, although budget in price, are still aimed at the home studio market. Course, in higher end studios you'd also be looking at very different options to what I (and most others) use in my small home studio.
@@tecraven Thanks for the reply, always appreciated. The svs actually isn't like a typical hifi sub, it's got a very flat frequency response when you look at the frequency graph on their site. Like z reviews says, these "home studio" marketing companies are kind of ripping people off when it comes to the subwoofer as they are selling us on the fact they offer xlr connectors. Quality is nice, but they are cheaping out on giving a fuller proper bass extension. But regardless of these considerations I still keep looking at the krk as they are still a good sub to pair with monitors with decent kick. I am just halfly convinced by the krk 10s. I like the xlr connectors, i like the kick, but the bass extension part has been keeping me on hold. And if I would want a sub that extends to 20hz at -3db in the "home studio" world I would have to overpay thousands of dollars LOL.
@@marc3734 This is all true, Marc. To be honest, if I had a larger studio in a larger house and a load more money I would not use a sub at all, I'd just be buying some high-end pretty large ATC monitors. I always read about the SVS subs on home cinema forums, where they love them. Fact that I always read about them on home cinema forums kind of put me off even looking in their direction. Though I did look at SVS subs when I needed to replace my faulty REL Strata 5 in my own living room cinema system. I can't remember what it was about the SVS that put me off buying one for my living room, but in the end I just bought another used REL Strata 5.
Nicely, well explained review, thanks! I have the Rokit 5's and need to up the bass a bit. Is there any reason you would have the speaker facing inwards, i.e potentiially where your feet could hit the driver? I would think turning it the other way would be 'safer' lol.
It's fine to face the bass woofer away from your foot, just not towards a wall. You won't notice the sound difference if you turn it away so you don't kick it.
Yes the foot switch cuts the sub out of the system completely. There’s a good video showing this in action if you search Produce Like a Pro KRK s10.4 or something.
Now that you've heard both the 10" and 8", would you even go for the 12"? I'm thinking of buying the 10" or 12" to pair with my Genelec 8040Bs. I can set up shop in one of two rooms, other is 11sqm and the other 15sqm at 2.6meters height. EDM/trance music is my jam. The 12" is tempting.
I'm only in a box room so the 12 would not work due to physics, so the 10 is about as much as I could get away with in my small studio. If you have larger space the 12 is a beast!
@@tecraven What size is your room? I'm gonna move to a new house soon where the room is gonna be 4,5m x 3,5m x 2,6m. Usually door will be open to the room so I'm on the fence if the 12" would work or if I should just get the 10".
@@sampsalol My studio space is just 7 feet by 10 feet so way too small for the 12" as physics simply would not allow the low end to reproduce. I could put the 12" in here, but it would not go down anywhere near as low as the 26Hz spec, but then again I doubt it would go down that low in most spaces except those 'Deutsche Grammophon' type studios that are large and acoustically treated to the finest tolerances. In my small studio I doubt I'd get the S12.4 to go as low as 35Hz, my 10" does not go down to the 30Hz spec, I'm convinced of it.
Great overview, thanks for the effort. I'm a bit put off by this not coming with a grill though. Mine will be under the desk (knowing me I'll probably use it as a foot rest at times) and that's a kicking hazard. Plus I have cats and they may use it as a sharpening tool. I also read these have no indicator light showing it's on. I think since I have to buy a grill I may as well get a nice looking aftermarket one but now I'm worried, if I back out the screws on these, will the speaker drop into the box and if so, will I be able to take off the back panel to the point I have easy access to the speaker? Guess I'll find out, my S10 gets here Saturday
There is definitely a light on the back to show it is on, but it is on the back so depending on the position you may, or may not, see it. The woofer itself is really tough, but not sure about cat's claws. I'd get the KRK grill (in the UK you have to buy from Germany as nobody here stocks them, in USA easier, about 40 bucks I think) and there is no need to back off screws. There are loads of screws on the back so easy to open and get into, but no need to back off screws and risk it to fit grill.
@@tecraven Thanks so much brother. I already put an order for a generic grill on Amazon, Sweetwater doesn't carry the KRK nor does Amazon. B&H is out of stock. Figures. I shouldn't have to hunt for one to begin with but having it hard to locate is even worse. I don't know what KRK was thinking. It's a sub. Subs tend to go on the ground. Their discontinued 10" sub comes with a grill (and I'm told, a power on indicator light. So these type of de-evolutionary moves screams corner cutting. Fingers crossed it works out!)
@@ikigai47 Yes, it is crap that they cut such a cheap corner by charging for a grill. The grill probably cost 15p in parts and manufacturing costs - just annoys customers so I don't know why they do it.
@@tecraven - True. FYI I got it in the mail today, and sure enough there's no way to access the speaker by taking off the back panel. It's just this full wall of black plastic in there, which may hold the speaker into place, hard to tell. In the end it didn't matter because to put on my nice aftermarket grill (which was half price of the real one btw, $13.99), all I needed to do was back out 4 screws (leaving enough screws to hold the speaker in place), put the grill on, and the new grill holes lined up with the ones I backed out. Disaster averted haha
I am really pending between the 8 and the 10. Other videos say, if you like your neighbours, choose the s8.4. Also, what happens when you put the switch on high level instead of normal? The manual says high mode is for HiFi.
Neighbours thing has nothing to do with it really, it's what works for the existing monitors that you have. If you already have 8-inch near field monitors then getting an 8-inch sub will only make a tiny difference as the 8-inch near field monitors will go down pretty much just as low so if you have 8-inch near field monitors already go for the 10-inch sub. Even if you have 6 or 7-inch monitors I'd still go for the 10-inch sub. If you have 5-inch monitors or smaller then the 8 will be fine. However, it depends on the room size too. The 8-inch sub is fine for very tiny box rooms but anything bigger than that and the 8-inch sub won't fill the room so well. Hi-level or Low level is simply the input sensitivity so most pro grade recording equipment has a lower output so that's why you'd set this to low for recording studio environment. However, domestic hi-fi and cinema receivers etc have a high output so you'd simply flick the switch to high in these instances. If you left it on Low and connected it to domestic hi-fi equipment you'd overload the sub a little too much and you'd have to compensate by turning all the settings down much more so. Likewise if you set it to High and connected to your recording studio not much volume would come out of the sub and you'd have to turn everything on the sub up much higher. There is a manual here for the 12-inch, but same thing: krk.blob.core.windows.net/public/SUBS/KRK-S.4-SUBWOOFERS-USERS-MANUAL.pdf
Hey, i have a Setup of KRK RP5 G4s and of course they do not do well on very low bass frequencys. Should i go for the S8 or the S10 Sub? My Room is not that big (3x5 meters approximately) and it hasnt been sound isolated or anything like that.
Thanks for the video! I chose the 10.4 sub, but I’m concerned about the sound quality it sends to my mains. My setup has the sound card connected to the KRK sub, which then sends a low-cut signal to the mains. How good is the KRK’s AD-DA circuitry for this? I’m worried it might degrade the signal quality and detail. Any thoughts?
I had my Kali IN-8 monitors for about a year before I bought the sub and I didn't notice any quality hit to the main monitors. I would have thought the signal path is pretty clean. You could put a 'critical listening' test track through it - a high quality production that you are familiar with that has good detail and try with and without. I haven't noticed any difference though, but then again, I do my critical fine-tuning mixing and mastering with Neumann headphones and jump back-and-forth between cans and monitors just to nail the stereo width and placement and any ping-pong or stereo panning to make sure they sound good on monitors and cans. I just find it easier and better to mix and master with headphones rather than trying to spend tens of thousands on room acoustics etc. My Neumann's cost £550 and are the equivalent of £15,000 monitors in a perfect studio.
@@tecraven Thanks for the detailed answer! I too only mix with headphones. However my room is fairly treated to allow a good detailed sound above ±300hz and I just wanted to make sure this KRK sub isn't going to take a big toll on the signal chain. Did you always connect your mains to the sub like I do?
@@jozard Yes, main monitors come out of the sub, no other way to do it in my set up and if there was I'd still take mains from sub. My room has £600 of treatment in it with bass traps in corners etc, but it's no Deutsch Grammophon studio that's for sure.
Hello. I have a pair of Presonus eris 4.5 monitors. I purchased the Personus eris sub 8 to pair with the monitors, but it did not pack the punch that I was after. I'm not considering the 10.4 but I watched your video on the 8.4, would this be a good fit for my monitors? Or should I be looking at something else? Thank you
I have some smaller PreSonus Eris E3.5 with the Sub8 Eris sub connected up to my Nord Lead A1 synth and it is decent enough for that and I'm happy with the punch it provides. The KRK S8.4 will pack marginally more punch than the PreSonus Sub8, but not much more, the KRK S10.4 should be on your list as it packs a serious punch and it sounds like that's what you are after.
for someone who just enjoys good sound quality, would you recommend the 8inch or the 10inch? I have a pair of the krk rokit 5 but I really feel like I need a subwoofer.
Hello, I hope you are well, I am from Chile, please if you can guide me, I am between buying a gift for my husband on the 10th or 12th, the DJ room is 2.5 x 4.5 meters in size and has a couple of monitors krk 7, please, which subwoofer do you recommend?
This one. The S10.4 for sure. The smaller 8 won’t be enough and the 12 will be way too much and won’t sound good. This one will be a marriage made in heaven!
Hi again my friend! I also received my 10.4 about a week ago and first thing I noticed is bass extension of course, but also an increased clarity on my main speakers (Focal Alpha 65, the originals, not the EVO). I couldn't believe it! Feels like a treble boost but it's not... It's like better separation with massive low end. I'm very impressed! However I have couple of issues... When I have the switch of Standby to ON, the sub goes into standby after 30 minutes as normal, but the Focals (which also have Auto-Standby) stay on all the time. To be exact, when the sub enters Standby the speakers do the same but they come back on again after a second. It's like the sub is sending signal to the speakers and wakes them up, even though it's on Standby. BUT, if I turn off the Standby switch (like you), then the Focals go into Standby after 30 minutes as expected... Is this happening to your Kalis as well? I think both the speakers and the sub should go into standby together, at about the same time... Another problem I'm having is bass reverbaration in my small, untreated room. And it's getting worse when I increase the volume level, unfortunately... To compensate I put the sub's volume knob at the middle (maybe less), although the volume tests, according to the manual, tell me that the correct level is at 1 o' clock. So I would like to ask you if these foam absorbers on your desk will work in my case. Are they any good at killing boomy bass? Maybe put a bass trap in one of my corners (where this problem is more evident)? I know low frequencies are hard to control... Thank you!
Agreed about the sub freeing up space for the main monitors to work more freely. My Kali monitors just seem to sound less strained and slightly more airy now. Regarding the standby issue, I never use it, not on that or monitors as the tech is too twitchy and I'd always fear that during very quiet, or even virtually silent passages that they would go into standby hence I never use this feature. Not even sure if my Kali's have standby to be honest. Sound treatment is everything. I've always said that sound treatment and the room combined are by far the most important piece of equipment: they are everything. I'd rather listen to budget monitors in a decent room that is acoustically treated than some £40,000 ATC monitors in St.Pauls Cathedral leaning up against some concrete pillars as the latter would not sound as good. Bass traps in (preferably) all eight corners of the room is ideal but you probably have a studio like mine where accommodating large bass traps in the four corners on the floor won't be practical, but at the very least stick them up in the four top corners as bass likes to go up there and hang around in the corners and make a total nuisance of itself and it does not want to go away once up in the corners hence a bass trap will kill that and stop it happening. Check out my other video here: th-cam.com/video/EQYRyQTqah0/w-d-xo.html
@@tecraven Room treatment is definitely a priority now... Since I'm low on budget I will try to build some acoustic panels myself. Thankfully there are many DIY guides and the cost per panel is a fraction of the ready ones. Plus I read that they do a far better job than foams. I'll start by making a couple of standing panels for the side reflections and then some thicker and denser ones placed in the corners for bass control. Thanks!
That's why standby is important for me, I don't want to turn everything on and off everytime, I often use PC just for media several times a day and it would be a pain :)
Depends on the size of the speakers you are putting with the sub and how big your room is. If you only have a very small room and are using monitors of up to 6-inches then the 8 will pack a punch. If you are using 8-inch monitors then there is every chance that the 8-inch monitors will go down just as low as the 8-inch sub, makes sense given they are the same size. So if using 8-inch monitors in a larger room go for the 10-inch sub, you'll notice the extra slam in the bottom.
Yes. It comes with a large mouse-mat type pad that is self-additive that sticks to the bottom, but if you are going to permanently have it on it's end then you could cut the pad down before sticking it to it, or just don't use it at all. Some people stick the sub on a small speaker stand or those absorbers on each corner.
@@jasonstl636 That I'm not sure about - I've never used the foot switch. If I were to guess I'd say yes, it does cut off the crossover, but don't quote me on it. Unfortunately, in the UK at least, KRK tech support is practically non-existent - not sure how it would be if you try and contact them via their official website? Try contacting KRK direct and do let me know how you get on, not only with your question, but KRK's customer and tech support in general because I had one very simple question for them and the UK rep has not responded at all - a bit naff in the UK to be honest.
Depends on room size. You will need a large room for the 12.4 and it's also worth remembering there are few rooms that can manage to get anywhere near as low as the manufactures spec, not even close.
@@tecraven The room it's 3x5,like an L ....before i had even a smaller room and the bass was better , now in this room sounds like crap....i am thinking to 12.4 because i want to be sure will be enough bass...maybe the floor is the problem because no i have wooden floor and before i had carpet🤔
@@smamas114 3x5 meters? That would be the 10.4 sub in my opinion. Yeah, wooden floor a big 'NO NO' in audio. Remember, the room and its acoustics and acoustic treatment is by far the most important piece of equipment, before you even buy anything. Wood will sound terrible as it is one massive reflection surface that will send the bass frequencies skating all around the floor - yuk!
I leave my 10.4 at about 20% volume at a 70hz crossover and with my KRK roket 8’s it is truly an experience!!!
Good video! I still have the KRK S8.4 sub with my Rokit 7 G4 audio monitors and it seems to work very well. The woofer in the Rokit 7 G4 is actually 6.5 inches so the 8 inch subwoofer is a good fit. I would have gotten the S10.4 if I had the room for it which I don't. I have the grilles on all of them and they fit easily and don't seem to hinder the sound at all. Now I have Rokit 8 G4s with my MacBook side of the studio and I don't feel they need a subwoofer for the music I record.
Thanks, GER. Yes, the 8.4 is a super match for your Rocket 7 with 6.5 inch woofers. Good to know about the grill fitting easily. Roket 8's have plenty of bass on their own, as you say, for use with your MacBook. Enjoy and keep being creative!
Now that you have made a review on the 8s and 10s, to complete the series we would like to see the 12s hopefully. You're the only youtuber that seems to stand out on these krk subwoofers along with 2 other english speaking folks. I believe it would sound good even in a small to medium room, there's people that consider the svs 1000 good for small to medium rooms and that subwoofer extends even lower than the krk 12s at -3db. The krk have more spl capability but less bass extension compared to other subs that don't have xlr connectors in the price category. I guess all you would have to do is keep the volume knob lower and enjoy even more extension from the krk 12s, I bet you will hear a difference regardless of initial theoritical thoughts. Maybe ask krk to send you one for review? I think they would. What we would like to know is a comparison between the 10s and 12s, is that extra bass extension really worth the extra budget. We all know the 10s are better than the 8s at this point, but the new 12.4s remain kind of mysterious on youtube. Nobody is talking about it except a salesman from a dj channel who doesn't describe it in detail but rather tries to sell it through emotional expressions. The krk range of subs all have high spl, but they also have little power. The 12s is only 220w. Usually 12 inch subs have way more wattage than that, I guess they have an efficient design.
Good points, Marc. I would not be able to review the S12.4 affectively in my small studio as the physics just would not allow for it, though you are right in what you say - the extra bass extension would surely be noticeable, but probably not in a 'flat' neutral way. Worth noting that SVS subs are designed more for home cinema than home recording studio in that they are tuned in such a way that they bring some extra sonic stuff to the party, stuff you don't want in a mixing studio. The KRK, although budget in price, are still aimed at the home studio market. Course, in higher end studios you'd also be looking at very different options to what I (and most others) use in my small home studio.
@@tecraven Thanks for the reply, always appreciated. The svs actually isn't like a typical hifi sub, it's got a very flat frequency response when you look at the frequency graph on their site. Like z reviews says, these "home studio" marketing companies are kind of ripping people off when it comes to the subwoofer as they are selling us on the fact they offer xlr connectors. Quality is nice, but they are cheaping out on giving a fuller proper bass extension. But regardless of these considerations I still keep looking at the krk as they are still a good sub to pair with monitors with decent kick. I am just halfly convinced by the krk 10s. I like the xlr connectors, i like the kick, but the bass extension part has been keeping me on hold. And if I would want a sub that extends to 20hz at -3db in the "home studio" world I would have to overpay thousands of dollars LOL.
@@marc3734 This is all true, Marc. To be honest, if I had a larger studio in a larger house and a load more money I would not use a sub at all, I'd just be buying some high-end pretty large ATC monitors. I always read about the SVS subs on home cinema forums, where they love them. Fact that I always read about them on home cinema forums kind of put me off even looking in their direction. Though I did look at SVS subs when I needed to replace my faulty REL Strata 5 in my own living room cinema system. I can't remember what it was about the SVS that put me off buying one for my living room, but in the end I just bought another used REL Strata 5.
Nicely, well explained review, thanks! I have the Rokit 5's and need to up the bass a bit. Is there any reason you would have the speaker facing inwards, i.e potentiially where your feet could hit the driver? I would think turning it the other way would be 'safer' lol.
It's fine to face the bass woofer away from your foot, just not towards a wall. You won't notice the sound difference if you turn it away so you don't kick it.
Yes the foot switch cuts the sub out of the system completely. There’s a good video showing this in action if you search Produce Like a Pro KRK s10.4 or something.
I suspected so. Good to know.
Thank you so much for this review!
You're welcome, Marc. I'm loving this one, a really good sub with lots of heft at the bottom end, but nice 'musical' heft.
Now that you've heard both the 10" and 8", would you even go for the 12"? I'm thinking of buying the 10" or 12" to pair with my Genelec 8040Bs. I can set up shop in one of two rooms, other is 11sqm and the other 15sqm at 2.6meters height. EDM/trance music is my jam. The 12" is tempting.
I'm only in a box room so the 12 would not work due to physics, so the 10 is about as much as I could get away with in my small studio. If you have larger space the 12 is a beast!
@@tecraven What size is your room? I'm gonna move to a new house soon where the room is gonna be 4,5m x 3,5m x 2,6m. Usually door will be open to the room so I'm on the fence if the 12" would work or if I should just get the 10".
@@sampsalol My studio space is just 7 feet by 10 feet so way too small for the 12" as physics simply would not allow the low end to reproduce. I could put the 12" in here, but it would not go down anywhere near as low as the 26Hz spec, but then again I doubt it would go down that low in most spaces except those 'Deutsche Grammophon' type studios that are large and acoustically treated to the finest tolerances. In my small studio I doubt I'd get the S12.4 to go as low as 35Hz, my 10" does not go down to the 30Hz spec, I'm convinced of it.
Great overview, thanks for the effort. I'm a bit put off by this not coming with a grill though. Mine will be under the desk (knowing me I'll probably use it as a foot rest at times) and that's a kicking hazard. Plus I have cats and they may use it as a sharpening tool. I also read these have no indicator light showing it's on. I think since I have to buy a grill I may as well get a nice looking aftermarket one but now I'm worried, if I back out the screws on these, will the speaker drop into the box and if so, will I be able to take off the back panel to the point I have easy access to the speaker? Guess I'll find out, my S10 gets here Saturday
There is definitely a light on the back to show it is on, but it is on the back so depending on the position you may, or may not, see it. The woofer itself is really tough, but not sure about cat's claws. I'd get the KRK grill (in the UK you have to buy from Germany as nobody here stocks them, in USA easier, about 40 bucks I think) and there is no need to back off screws. There are loads of screws on the back so easy to open and get into, but no need to back off screws and risk it to fit grill.
@@tecraven Thanks so much brother. I already put an order for a generic grill on Amazon, Sweetwater doesn't carry the KRK nor does Amazon. B&H is out of stock. Figures. I shouldn't have to hunt for one to begin with but having it hard to locate is even worse. I don't know what KRK was thinking. It's a sub. Subs tend to go on the ground. Their discontinued 10" sub comes with a grill (and I'm told, a power on indicator light. So these type of de-evolutionary moves screams corner cutting. Fingers crossed it works out!)
@@ikigai47 Yes, it is crap that they cut such a cheap corner by charging for a grill. The grill probably cost 15p in parts and manufacturing costs - just annoys customers so I don't know why they do it.
@@tecraven - True. FYI I got it in the mail today, and sure enough there's no way to access the speaker by taking off the back panel. It's just this full wall of black plastic in there, which may hold the speaker into place, hard to tell. In the end it didn't matter because to put on my nice aftermarket grill (which was half price of the real one btw, $13.99), all I needed to do was back out 4 screws (leaving enough screws to hold the speaker in place), put the grill on, and the new grill holes lined up with the ones I backed out. Disaster averted haha
I am really pending between the 8 and the 10. Other videos say, if you like your neighbours, choose the s8.4. Also, what happens when you put the switch on high level instead of normal? The manual says high mode is for HiFi.
Neighbours thing has nothing to do with it really, it's what works for the existing monitors that you have. If you already have 8-inch near field monitors then getting an 8-inch sub will only make a tiny difference as the 8-inch near field monitors will go down pretty much just as low so if you have 8-inch near field monitors already go for the 10-inch sub. Even if you have 6 or 7-inch monitors I'd still go for the 10-inch sub. If you have 5-inch monitors or smaller then the 8 will be fine. However, it depends on the room size too. The 8-inch sub is fine for very tiny box rooms but anything bigger than that and the 8-inch sub won't fill the room so well. Hi-level or Low level is simply the input sensitivity so most pro grade recording equipment has a lower output so that's why you'd set this to low for recording studio environment. However, domestic hi-fi and cinema receivers etc have a high output so you'd simply flick the switch to high in these instances. If you left it on Low and connected it to domestic hi-fi equipment you'd overload the sub a little too much and you'd have to compensate by turning all the settings down much more so. Likewise if you set it to High and connected to your recording studio not much volume would come out of the sub and you'd have to turn everything on the sub up much higher. There is a manual here for the 12-inch, but same thing: krk.blob.core.windows.net/public/SUBS/KRK-S.4-SUBWOOFERS-USERS-MANUAL.pdf
@@tecraven thx, very good information. Then I will save up a little more money and go for the 10 size.
Hey, i have a Setup of KRK RP5 G4s and of course they do not do well on very low bass frequencys. Should i go for the S8 or the S10 Sub? My Room is not that big (3x5 meters approximately) and it hasnt been sound isolated or anything like that.
S10 deffo. My room is smaller than yours and I have the 10.
Thanks for the video! I chose the 10.4 sub, but I’m concerned about the sound quality it sends to my mains. My setup has the sound card connected to the KRK sub, which then sends a low-cut signal to the mains. How good is the KRK’s AD-DA circuitry for this? I’m worried it might degrade the signal quality and detail. Any thoughts?
I had my Kali IN-8 monitors for about a year before I bought the sub and I didn't notice any quality hit to the main monitors. I would have thought the signal path is pretty clean. You could put a 'critical listening' test track through it - a high quality production that you are familiar with that has good detail and try with and without. I haven't noticed any difference though, but then again, I do my critical fine-tuning mixing and mastering with Neumann headphones and jump back-and-forth between cans and monitors just to nail the stereo width and placement and any ping-pong or stereo panning to make sure they sound good on monitors and cans. I just find it easier and better to mix and master with headphones rather than trying to spend tens of thousands on room acoustics etc. My Neumann's cost £550 and are the equivalent of £15,000 monitors in a perfect studio.
@@tecraven Thanks for the detailed answer! I too only mix with headphones. However my room is fairly treated to allow a good detailed sound above ±300hz and I just wanted to make sure this KRK sub isn't going to take a big toll on the signal chain. Did you always connect your mains to the sub like I do?
@@jozard Yes, main monitors come out of the sub, no other way to do it in my set up and if there was I'd still take mains from sub. My room has £600 of treatment in it with bass traps in corners etc, but it's no Deutsch Grammophon studio that's for sure.
hey, i have the krk rokit 8 g4, which subwoofer should i buy for these two? the s10.4 or the 12.4
Small to medium size room the 10 or if room is larger the 12
What about the 12” model?
Hello. I have a pair of Presonus eris 4.5 monitors. I purchased the Personus eris sub 8 to pair with the monitors, but it did not pack the punch that I was after. I'm not considering the 10.4 but I watched your video on the 8.4, would this be a good fit for my monitors? Or should I be looking at something else? Thank you
I have some smaller PreSonus Eris E3.5 with the Sub8 Eris sub connected up to my Nord Lead A1 synth and it is decent enough for that and I'm happy with the punch it provides. The KRK S8.4 will pack marginally more punch than the PreSonus Sub8, but not much more, the KRK S10.4 should be on your list as it packs a serious punch and it sounds like that's what you are after.
for someone who just enjoys good sound quality, would you recommend the 8inch or the 10inch? I have a pair of the krk rokit 5 but I really feel like I need a subwoofer.
10-inch, all day.
I have the Krk R7 G4. I want to buy the sub S10.4. Is that a good match? I don’t know of the S8.4 have enough bass. Want to feel the bass.
It will be too small, definitely get the 10 inch, which is what I now have.
@@tecraven oke, thanks !
Hello, I hope you are well, I am from Chile, please if you can guide me, I am between buying a gift for my husband on the 10th or 12th, the DJ room is 2.5 x 4.5 meters in size and has a couple of monitors krk 7, please, which subwoofer do you recommend?
This one. The S10.4 for sure. The smaller 8 won’t be enough and the 12 will be way too much and won’t sound good. This one will be a marriage made in heaven!
Hi again my friend! I also received my 10.4 about a week ago and first thing I noticed is bass extension of course, but also an increased clarity on my main speakers (Focal Alpha 65, the originals, not the EVO). I couldn't believe it! Feels like a treble boost but it's not... It's like better separation with massive low end. I'm very impressed!
However I have couple of issues... When I have the switch of Standby to ON, the sub goes into standby after 30 minutes as normal, but the Focals (which also have Auto-Standby) stay on all the time. To be exact, when the sub enters Standby the speakers do the same but they come back on again after a second. It's like the sub is sending signal to the speakers and wakes them up, even though it's on Standby. BUT, if I turn off the Standby switch (like you), then the Focals go into Standby after 30 minutes as expected... Is this happening to your Kalis as well? I think both the speakers and the sub should go into standby together, at about the same time...
Another problem I'm having is bass reverbaration in my small, untreated room. And it's getting worse when I increase the volume level, unfortunately... To compensate I put the sub's volume knob at the middle (maybe less), although the volume tests, according to the manual, tell me that the correct level is at 1 o' clock. So I would like to ask you if these foam absorbers on your desk will work in my case. Are they any good at killing boomy bass? Maybe put a bass trap in one of my corners (where this problem is more evident)? I know low frequencies are hard to control...
Thank you!
Agreed about the sub freeing up space for the main monitors to work more freely. My Kali monitors just seem to sound less strained and slightly more airy now. Regarding the standby issue, I never use it, not on that or monitors as the tech is too twitchy and I'd always fear that during very quiet, or even virtually silent passages that they would go into standby hence I never use this feature. Not even sure if my Kali's have standby to be honest. Sound treatment is everything. I've always said that sound treatment and the room combined are by far the most important piece of equipment: they are everything. I'd rather listen to budget monitors in a decent room that is acoustically treated than some £40,000 ATC monitors in St.Pauls Cathedral leaning up against some concrete pillars as the latter would not sound as good. Bass traps in (preferably) all eight corners of the room is ideal but you probably have a studio like mine where accommodating large bass traps in the four corners on the floor won't be practical, but at the very least stick them up in the four top corners as bass likes to go up there and hang around in the corners and make a total nuisance of itself and it does not want to go away once up in the corners hence a bass trap will kill that and stop it happening. Check out my other video here: th-cam.com/video/EQYRyQTqah0/w-d-xo.html
@@tecraven Room treatment is definitely a priority now... Since I'm low on budget I will try to build some acoustic panels myself. Thankfully there are many DIY guides and the cost per panel is a fraction of the ready ones. Plus I read that they do a far better job than foams. I'll start by making a couple of standing panels for the side reflections and then some thicker and denser ones placed in the corners for bass control. Thanks!
Have you resolved standby issue? I have exact same Focals and wanted to buy this KRK sub until I saw your comment... standby is crucial for me
@@maciejkobylarz7676 For me personally I turn the sub off using the power switch and turn the monitors off on the back with the power switches.
That's why standby is important for me, I don't want to turn everything on and off everytime, I often use PC just for media several times a day and it would be a pain :)
Hey Im using the kali lp-6 v2 should I go with the s10.4 or s8.4?
I’d personally go with the 10, even in a slightly smaller room.
thinking of buying a sub (between the 8s and 10s), does the 10s are worth the extra bucks?
Depends on the size of the speakers you are putting with the sub and how big your room is. If you only have a very small room and are using monitors of up to 6-inches then the 8 will pack a punch. If you are using 8-inch monitors then there is every chance that the 8-inch monitors will go down just as low as the 8-inch sub, makes sense given they are the same size. So if using 8-inch monitors in a larger room go for the 10-inch sub, you'll notice the extra slam in the bottom.
Can this be laid vertically with the port at the bottom or top?
Yes. It comes with a large mouse-mat type pad that is self-additive that sticks to the bottom, but if you are going to permanently have it on it's end then you could cut the pad down before sticking it to it, or just don't use it at all. Some people stick the sub on a small speaker stand or those absorbers on each corner.
Thanks for the quick reply. Also, does the foot switch cut off the crossover? I am planning on getting this or the 12 with Adam A4Vs.
@@jasonstl636 That I'm not sure about - I've never used the foot switch. If I were to guess I'd say yes, it does cut off the crossover, but don't quote me on it. Unfortunately, in the UK at least, KRK tech support is practically non-existent - not sure how it would be if you try and contact them via their official website? Try contacting KRK direct and do let me know how you get on, not only with your question, but KRK's customer and tech support in general because I had one very simple question for them and the UK rep has not responded at all - a bit naff in the UK to be honest.
10.4 or 12.4 ?? I have the Krk classic 7 .....hmm 12 is more expensive but has lower bass freq ....
Depends on room size. You will need a large room for the 12.4 and it's also worth remembering there are few rooms that can manage to get anywhere near as low as the manufactures spec, not even close.
@@tecraven The room it's 3x5,like an L ....before i had even a smaller room and the bass was better , now in this room sounds like crap....i am thinking to 12.4 because i want to be sure will be enough bass...maybe the floor is the problem because no i have wooden floor and before i had carpet🤔
@@smamas114 3x5 meters? That would be the 10.4 sub in my opinion. Yeah, wooden floor a big 'NO NO' in audio. Remember, the room and its acoustics and acoustic treatment is by far the most important piece of equipment, before you even buy anything. Wood will sound terrible as it is one massive reflection surface that will send the bass frequencies skating all around the floor - yuk!
@@tecraven I just moved to an new apartment ..... i am going to search for something to put over the wood floor , thanks for your help 👍
@@smamas114 - apartment? oh man, your neighbors probably hate you