It just feels wrong that Raiden doesn't settle his score with Solidus here. After all that rage-filled struggle, he just gets knocked out, and Snake swoops in with unexplained blade prowess and casually stabs Solidus with a one-liner. Just wrong.
Personally I'd have gone the other way around. Snake faces Solidus in a desperate attempt for Raiden to wake up since he was unconscious, getting pretty badly beat all over the place, and then Raiden wakes up to find Snake bloodied and beaten. Then he grabs his sword, challenges Solidus, and then SWORDFIGHT. Call forwards to Rising mandatory.
well ppl hated not being snake in mgs2 but I bet they would have thought it was a horrible execution or a copy of the last game if they played as just him esp since most sequals don't do well so I would think this retelling was sort of like that idea that it was mature enough to be different but yes its bad enough they didn't do a crotch grab also maybe sequals are better if they complicate the storyline but then at that point you might as well do some other thing in life than try to figure all of those tropes and plans and ideas anyways
The parts where they replace Raiden with Snake is weird and just feels like pandering to people who were upset about Raiden but goddamn the stuff between Ocelot and Liquid and Liquid revealing the Sorrow to Ocelot is so good (though Liquid respond with Snake asking "BUT HOW" with "SURGICAL ARM GRAFT OF COURSE!" like that's an actual explanation is fucking hilarious. Like somehow it's even more absurd than "BUT I LIVE ON THROUGH THIS ARM!")
imagine that?, pandering to fans that were upset with something. Could have been worse, could have replace Raiden with Snake all together lol. This version of Raiden and later instalments are better then then MGS2
@@tobymcquire4628 Not really pandering, that's what their original intention was with Liquid's arm and Ocelot being The Sorrow's son before that overrated hack Kojima fucking stupidly retconned it because "oh we can't have anything supernatural in my series, everything is nanomachines." Fukushima was the true genius behind the story of that series.
@@loregasmicwait, what? I thought everything with the Sorrow and The Boss being Ocelot's parents was canon. When was that retconned? The spirit medium explanation is more speculation, but it makes sense to tie up this little detail that's never really cleared up.
They made a huge mistake by cutting Chinaman and Old Boy from the game. Those two would have made Dead Cell feel much more complete, like Foxhound from the first game.
The idea back in MGS2 was the Patriots were just US government and other relevant parties (mass media, big business) creating an AI to ensure society moves along in a direction suitable to them, not a superhero comic book supervillain scheme by a British man, Ocelot, and their minions to enact the will (or not) of some lady. The twist with Philanthropy after the credits was supposed to be the AI testing them to see if they actually had a shot at deposing them.
Man, I think this really cleared up a lot of the pacing, but having Snake take some of Raiden's moments away is kinda dumb. Snake killing Solidus is just gratuitous fanboyism that keeps Raiden from getting closure. Is Snake so fond of patricide that he has to kill other people's dads for them?
@@melvinjansen2338yes he is, Solid Snake became a mercenary after the Outer Heaven uprising in 95. He has a military experience in the US Army Special Forces aka the Green Berets
@@melvinjansen2338you're welcome when they called Snake "Dog of War" it does confirms my suspicions that Snake is a mercenary, which does make a perfect sense
I don't like Snake beating Solidus instead of Raiden. But DAMN, the idea of the last codec call being a kind of dream sequence sounds really cool, at least in a non interactive medium. I wish they could show the entire conversation like this, though it may be to much.
People are saying they prefer Raiden's VA in this more than in the game, but I think his whiny voice suits him a little more (especially for the first parts of the game) In contrast to Snake, he genuinely acted and spoke like a green bean on his first field mission who was pissed things weren't going his way, that his girlfriend was constantly bothering him about "DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT TOMORROW IS JACK??!!" and that his commanding officer was obviously keeping serious intel from him when it could have him killed. Also sad they didn't include the deathly embarrassing moments where Raiden just points his gun at everyone and Snake tells him to chill the fuck out.
Agree completely. Hideo Kojima made the game a bunch of conspiracy theories wrapped up in a nutshell on purpose because people completely missed the messages the first game had to offer and only cared about the "cool" things the gameplay implemented.
I guess you haven't listened to Metal Gear Solid 2 in japanese. Raiden has no whiny voice or anything near that. His voice sounds of a soldier who has seen battle but doesn't know it. youtu. be/ cq6GNbalhnk ?t=12312 and check to this video 1:12:23 big difference
@@ae86takumi oh, then that makes the Japanese version a little worse. Raiden's contrating voice and attitude in relation to Snake is more palpable in the American version.
My only problem with this is the fact that not only does Snake kill Solidus, denying Raiden his closure, but he also went against his own character; Snake's not a big fan of blades, so why does he use one here?
I admit, both graphic novels (referring to MGS1 and 2) are completely different from the games, but I also think they're pretty good. The reason I think they're good is because I see them as digital graphic novels, not adaptations of the Metal Gear canon.
In 2013 Kojima stated that the graphic novels are modern takes of MGS1 and MGS2, they can be used as canon alternate interpretations of the story. Like how in MGS4 he has both MGS1 and Twin Snakes as canon.
If you ask me, I think fortune should've seen it coming as supposed to what ocelot was up to. Sure she accused solid snake for killing her dad, but he wasn't the murderer that killed her father, it was really revolver ocelot that killed him and Fortune's husband too. So I guess revolver ocelot being the REAL murderer of Fortune's husband and father makes a lot of sense to me.
@@GeneFOX70 What's also interesting is that the MGS1 movie has Snake leave Shadow Moses with both Otacon and Meryl, which makes more sense with MGS4 than with any of the original endings in MGS1 and Twin Snakes. MGS2 also restores some of the deleted scenes that were originally removed from the game after 9/11, including a cameo from Karen Hojo from Policenauts.
That's because this is probably meant to be an easier way to digest the story. It's radically different from what actually happens in the game. It's different in a lot of big ways
1:51:55 Alright that was handled in such a badass way. They gave both characters a purpose. I always found it EXTREMELY unsettling how you can call Snake when Vamp is holding Emma hostage and he says and does literally nothing.
I think David Hayter did much better on the voice in this comic than the first comic...also Snake is Batman. It was cool seeing the Ocelot/Liquid conversations and the Sorrow was a nice touch too. I think overall it was "Okay"; story changes still kind of irk me, but it's not so bad if you think of this as its OWN series. I just hope people don't watch these thinking they're the official stories.
I find this story to make far more sense then mgs2 did on it's own. It fills in the blanks. And snake does shit. Which you know, he didn't in mgs2. Better then game imo.
I know alot of people loved the game as it was but I had seething hatred for parts of it (Raiden whining) (Snake doing nothing) (No scene transitions at the end. Hey im underwater.. now its raining, now i'm in the city on a roof..) I also completely adored parts of it that are missing. I think as a supplement to the game, it works.
@@dylansmith5161 6 years late to the thread but I just wanted to say if you put this graphic novel and the game together it makes for a pretty cohesive storyline
Nope, he sounded like an actual human being and what his thoughts and feelings on a mission like that would be, rather than "I'm such a badass who cares about absolutely fucking nothing" Solid Snake who was actually based off a movie character.
What the? Snake killing Solidus is bullshit! Why did they do that? And you were doing so well Graphic Novel! I wasn't even minding that I could barely tell one person apart from another
Could be the real story. The game was all about subjective realities for all we know when we played the game it could of been a simulation of the incident we played as a raiden? Not saying it's true but it can fit the story
@@himynameis3664 In 2013 Kojima stated that the graphic novels are modern takes of MGS1 and MGS2, they can be used as canon interpretations of the story. Like how in MGS4 he has both MGS1 and Twin Snakes as canon.
Uh, nope. Raiden killing Solidus was bullshit. I love how some people say "Snake just swooped in with unexplained sword mastery" when in fact it was already known that Snake was good with all kinds of weapons and in fact Raiden's sword prowess was never canonically explained. GG ez.
@@mrreyes5004 Solidus says that he taught Jack everything he knew which probably included skill with a sword. Snake on the other hand even says himself "I'm not a big fan of blades" which kind of implies he doesn't like to use them which in turn means he wouldn't be as good as somebody who has been practicing for years like Solidus or Raiden who was taught everything by Solidus. Raiden was also good with knives during the Liberian civil war and I assume some of this would translate over to the HF Katana along with watching movies like the other guy mentioned.
1:20:35 For those of you who doesn't know, the voice of Colonel Sergei Gurlukovich is Earl Boen who played the role of Dr. Peter Silberman in The Terminator series along with The former Governor of California, WWE Hall of Famer, the 7-time Mr. Olympia, 4-time Mr. Universe and Hollywood legend Arnold Schwarzenegger
That's what I was thinking,If they ever made of movie version of Metal Gear Solid they would make it more like the graphic novels.Not that I'm looking forward to a Metal Gear Solid film because they always make films different from video games.Take Silent Hill,Blood Rayne and Prince of Persia for example.
There's something I actually really love about the fact that this exists and that's that as an interpretation of the events of mgs2 this still works, think about comic book movies, if they just 1:1 scale copied shit from the comics there would be no point to their existence, this comic works as a good retelling of the mgs2 story Furthermore, there's actually good reasons why this could actually be a true canonical telling of the story when you consider that one of the largest themes in mgs2 is about "reality" what we played in mgs2 might not be accurate at all, for all we know we played a nameless foxhound soldier playing a simulation of the simulation that raiden went through. Simulation inception. No matter how you tell the story of mgs2 it's still always canon and yet not canon at the same time and that's fucking beautiful. Maybe raiden killed solidus, maybe he didn't, maybe he was a whiny little bitch, maybe he was a badass, who the fuck knows or cares? It's a Schrödinger's cat, in the sense that any outcome is both true and false simultaneously.
Well spoken man!!! That's why I don't really care what people think of The Twin Snakes. Sure it doesn't seem realistic that Snake would backflip off a missile, but the cutscenes are dope enough to keep me watching and they make me feel like I'm controlling a genetically modified super solider, cloned from the greatest warrior of the 20th century. In that context, Solid Snake is a goddamn badass in any game.
12:05 is a reference to Policenauts. The news music is directly from the 3DO remastered version, which was re-used in the PS1 version as well. Karen Hojo is a prominent character in the game, and brings everything full circle; as Meryl originally was part of the Vice Unit on Beyond Coast where Policenauts takes place. Kojima liked her and made her part of the Fox Unit.
I knew about Meryl in Policenauts, but I never played or watched it, so I didn't know that Karen Hojo was a pre-existing character, too! Thanks for sharing that!
This is really GOOD! It gives another alternate take to the game, and explains certain cut scenes that seemed to make 0 sense at all (Solidus choke sequence).
Ok, this is gonna be a hot take As someone who loves MGS2 game to death, my opinion with this graphic novel is a bit mixed. In one hand, i do appreciate some of the changes like Solid Snake having more screentime which is always appreciated since Snake is my favourite character in the series and David Hayter will always be Snake to me and perfectly nails that performance, not mention having one of the best lines of all MGS "Fine with me. I'd rather be a mistake than be the one that causes them. Also i do love some of the changes like Colonel complaining about Raiden and Stillman not doing their roles from the games was kinda funny and clever. I also like that Stillman and Fatman had lot more interaction with each other and we finally got to see what happened between Snake and Olga. Also, the bit with Ocelot hallucinating about Liquid and Sorrow was pretty good, although bit tacked on. Voice acting in general is top notch. Changes that i was bit mixed upon was the scenes where Snake basically replaces Raiden's scenes, although i kinda like Snake vs. Vamp fight, even though Raiden and Vamp are more sworn enemies from the games. Although i appreciate them giving Snake more to do than in the game, it was sadly at expense on Raiden's character. Also Rose is not nearly as enough in this novel, but i can sort of understand that because people find her annoying in the game. Oh, speaking of the changes i didn't like was removal of Otacon and Emma's dark family history and Emma barely having a character to her than she had in the game. And when she died in the novel, i just kept shrugging my shoulders because i barely knew this character. Granted, Emma wasn't super deep character in the game version, but at least there we learned about her family history, the trauma of almost drowning and her interaction with Raiden and her Otacon. Even though she said she hated him for abandoning him, she still missed him deep down after all these years. It's quite sad. Look, i'm not expecting 1:1 copy of the original game, but i expected the changes improve upon the narrative than being inferior to the ones in the game. Another change i didn't really like Raiden's character and him being nerfed in the graphic novel. Raiden seems bit too aggressive to me compared to how he was in the games. I kinda liked Raiden being bit of a dork, but with darker side in MGS2. One of the reasons why i like Cloud from original Final Fantasy 7. People call out Raiden being a whiny bitch from MGS2, but i don't think its warranted. For the most of the time it was justified, when he was constantly kept out of loop and having literal identity crisis and seeing all crazy shit. It also annoys me how Raiden felt kinda nerfed during this novel. Sure, Raiden is not legend like Snake, but he can handle on his own. He is not mere rookie as he spent his childhood as a child soldier and had impressive kill count. And lastly, i hate the change of Snake killing Solidus instead of Raiden. As some have said, it feels like fanboyism and pandering at worst even if i love Snake's character, but Snake hardly had any interactions or encounters with Solidus, so it feels really forced to have Snake have final duel with Solidus. Solidus's defeat by Raiden had much more meaning and they both share dark history. Overall this wasn't great, but somewhat decent Graphic Novel. I still think MGS1 novel was bit better in comparison.
therosewebbb ..pretty much, solid snake is really a bad guy without him knowing it. the one time he did something agiest the patriots is when the other side used him. that the funny thing about it all.
+therosewebbb I'd hardly call Solidus a good guy. Yeah, his intentions were good, but his methods would have involved the deaths of millions of people.
A.J. Patterson Not only would the bomb itself kill people, just think of all of the deaths a complete blackout of one of the most populated cities in the world. Tens of thousands of people in hospitals would die. People would not be able to get emergency transport, tens of thousands would die in traffic, etc.
Coming on October 2023, Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol.1 the games are Metal Gear Solid ((Original)) Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater It's coming on PS5, Nintendo Switch, Xbox Series X and Series S and Microsoft Windows
+TheAshOfOurFriends im sorry but replacing snake with raiden in so many scenes is what made it much better then the actual game call me a solid snake fanboy if you want i dont care but raiden was a terrible character i dont remind replacing snake in mgs 2 but kojima could have replaced him with someone much better then raiden. in mgs 3 we played as big boss and its one of the best games ever made so it has nothing to do with replacing solid snake the problem was that raiden was just a really bad character.
If this is any hint as to what we will see for the cinematic adaptations, I'm in, baby. I'm all in. After watching MGS 1 and 2 Graphic Novels, I am convinced that these can these stories can be cut to 2-3 hours and make excellent films, on par with The Dark Knight, Captain America 2, and other blockbuster comic book titles. It may not make as much money, but it will probably make Matrix money. My hope is they base the MGS film on the previous digital graphic novel, and the second on this graphic novel, perhaps pacing the story a bit more and splitting it into two parts. The film series would conclude Solid Snake's story with the third film, Guns of the Patriots This could allow for the actor, after four films, to then transfer the lead to another actor to play Big Boss. Big Boss would then continue the film series with another trilogy, Snake Eater and Phantom Limbs (2 parts). It would have the familiar scent of Marvel.
I already knew of the MG universe and played MGS3 Snake Eater, but this makes me want to go play through every pixel of every MG game and read through every wiki and article about the universe. This was AWESOME!
I think that's the same M9 Bretta that used in Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, that M9 Bretta that used in the Tanker and the Big Shell is modified, you gotta give credit to Italians because that gun is Italian made
2:50:20 "No more child abuse. Time to deal with a grown-up for a change." Fuuuuck, that's a good line. I am so glad that they gave Snake a bigger role in this. MGS2 was a great game, but I think it would have worked better if you played as Raiden and Snake throughout the game.
honestly this comic is pretty good.... up until Snake kill Solidus instead of Raiden that was Bullshit and I have no idea why they changed it. like others said it feels pandering because people didn't like that Snake was sidelined in this game, even to the point where they outright replace some of Raiden's moments for Snake
Some of the DGN music is original. I inferred this from the fact that some of the music you can download in MGS4 is labelled specifically as coming from the MGS2 DGN
Awesum Brando Interesting, and would you specifically need MGS4 to listen to the music, or is it available elsewhere? It's okay if you don't know, this stuff can be hard to track down.
I don't remember raiden being this ugly I don't really remember Fortune being sometimes white, sometimes black and sometimes even asian! Also making Raiden a badass and making snake kill Solidus completely misses the point of MGS2 But yeah, fanservice
Moonman I agree. Snake killing Solidus instead of Raiden kinda ruins his entire character arc. Since he's no longer the one who killed Solidus he no longer has any closure.
For real. Raiden just comes off like Axel from Kingdom Hearts. I must admit I loved hearing the original cast (sadly minus Rose) one last time, and the extended stuff with Fatman was cool, but the comic completely missed the point of the original game. Comparing the two would take like 79 paragraphs, but, tl;dr, it's MGS2 in name only.
As if that's a good thing? This comic serves to at least try to improve the original story at parts (Minus the kill steal Snake gives Raiden at the end). Raiden slipping into his "Jack the Ripper" persona at points, the Solidus foreshadowing, etc all added to this adaptation in really neat ways. The parody comic was just that, a parody. It wouldn't have been a particularly good one if the author just made up things to complain about.
I personally like this alot! The game is literally my favorite of all time so the stuff they added in pissed me off. Expect for Fat mans character being fleshed out
Even though it’s a bit different from the actual game, i wish Raider could have gotten his revenge on Solidus. I still enjoyed it. This was well written.
Not to criticise, but David Hayter's voice does sound a bit different in the comic novel version here, from the original video game. Still, excellent story. Raiden sounds a little bit different, too. A little. The one thing I preferred about THIS version over the original is where Snake says at the end, "I'd rather be a mistake, than be the one who makes them." Hey, not for nothing, I wonder how one gets into voice acting. THESE voice actors did a great job, I thought. And I hear it's a great job to have, but that it's not as easy to achieve as it sounds. A part of me always wanted to do voice acting because of the video game from 2001.
I read somewhere that Kojima made people play as Raiden as a little dig at all those fans who fantasised about being Snake while ignoring all the trauma and neuroses that all those guys got from being at war for so long. The whiny Raiden we see in the game IS the whiny us complaining when the fantasy gets shattered and is duly and often humiliated for it.
I like how this addresses story not seen in the game. Patriots telling Fatman to attack Raiden, Snake seeing Olga etc. It may take a different spin in some parts, but it elaborates on parts of the original story too. Johnson inputting the code, relating to Solidus about the Patriots control of them as president. Good stuff. Although it doesnt pack any of the quality or emotion the original scenes in the game have.
I've wondered if the original plan for MGS4 was to have Liquid really possess Ocelot. This video offers proof to that since nowhere in the games does the old cowboy know about his parentage but I can easily see Liquid knowing about them.
The MGS2 video game is still the definitive version of this story, for many reasons, but its dialogue is incredibly long-winded and meandering. I think the Digital Graphic Novel made a valiant effort at making the dialogue more concise and to-the-point.
In 2013 Kojima stated that the graphic novels are modern takes of MGS1 and MGS2, they can be used as canon alternate interpretations of the story. Like how in MGS4 he has both MGS1 and Twin Snakes as canon.
The comic probably was dubbed some time after MGS2, and Quentin Flynn was starting to get more comfortable with his new Raiden voice, similar to how David Hayter's Snake voice got better over the course of the series. But that's just a theory A GAME THEORY!
Regardless of Kiefer Sutherland's commendable performance as Big Boss, there is, and only will be, ONE true Snake (Solid Snake and Big Boss, specifically): DAVID HAYTER!
The art style was okay for me, but damn, the script. I'd have preferred an exact adaptation, so that even one that has not played the game can understand what is going on. Completely skipping Olga's intro/fight was an immediate red flag to me that liberties were taken with this, and I usually hate it when that happens. Pacing seems to be an issue too. Cutting a rant short, if the story is going to be different, don't call it Metal Gear Solid 2 Digital Graphic Novel. Give it it's own name so people will know there are differences between this and the actual game script.
This had it's cool moments that would've made the original game better. But others should've been left in that didn't mess with the continuity for fan service.
I don't get why people are complaining about this, in my opinion this is basically just the same story but told differently, an interpretation. Would we really watch this if we already played MGS 2 and know what was going to happen? They made it different so we would watch it and see the difference
[Soory for the bad language] Am I missing something from the game if i watch the novel , the game is like 5h but the novel is 3h sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo?
i dont get the comment of "if they didnt change the story, why would they even make it?", when the very obvious answer is that a new medium could bring new depth to the characters, simplify cutscene dialogue, flesh out story beats none of that requires transforming raiden and then just tossing him aside in favor of snake anyways, mgs2 is a perfectly fine story that deserves a better adaptation
I love the voice acting, really sounds improved. But I think Hayter Snake really regressed. I think his best work was MGS1 and 2. The raspier he got, the worse he got. Real bummer.
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Hmmmmm they editted out so much key info! Like Snake and Otacon's epic handshake and bro hug
"We've managed to avoid drowning!"
Saved me 5 years later
It just feels wrong that Raiden doesn't settle his score with Solidus here. After all that rage-filled struggle, he just gets knocked out, and Snake swoops in with unexplained blade prowess and casually stabs Solidus with a one-liner. Just wrong.
The one liner is cornier than, well, a corn field.
Personally I'd have gone the other way around. Snake faces Solidus in a desperate attempt for Raiden to wake up since he was unconscious, getting pretty badly beat all over the place, and then Raiden wakes up to find Snake bloodied and beaten. Then he grabs his sword, challenges Solidus, and then SWORDFIGHT. Call forwards to Rising mandatory.
I liked it.😁
I prefer thinking that Raiden blacked out and subconsciously went Ripper on Solidus, and Solid had to pacify Ripper (unknowingly using CQC doing it).
well ppl hated not being snake in mgs2 but I bet they would have thought it was a horrible execution or a copy of the last game if they played as just him esp since most sequals don't do well so I would think this retelling was sort of like that idea that it was mature enough to be different but yes its bad enough they didn't do a crotch grab
also maybe sequals are better if they complicate the storyline but then at that point you might as well do some other thing in life than try to figure all of those tropes and plans and ideas anyways
The parts where they replace Raiden with Snake is weird and just feels like pandering to people who were upset about Raiden but goddamn the stuff between Ocelot and Liquid and Liquid revealing the Sorrow to Ocelot is so good (though Liquid respond with Snake asking "BUT HOW" with "SURGICAL ARM GRAFT OF COURSE!" like that's an actual explanation is fucking hilarious. Like somehow it's even more absurd than "BUT I LIVE ON THROUGH THIS ARM!")
imagine that?, pandering to fans that were upset with something. Could have been worse, could have replace Raiden with Snake all together lol. This version of Raiden and later instalments are better then then MGS2
1:43:00
@@tobymcquire4628 Not really pandering, that's what their original intention was with Liquid's arm and Ocelot being The Sorrow's son before that overrated hack Kojima fucking stupidly retconned it because "oh we can't have anything supernatural in my series, everything is nanomachines." Fukushima was the true genius behind the story of that series.
@@loregasmicwait, what?
I thought everything with the Sorrow and The Boss being Ocelot's parents was canon. When was that retconned? The spirit medium explanation is more speculation, but it makes sense to tie up this little detail that's never really cleared up.
About time Fatman got some proper screen time.
Agree big time.
They made a huge mistake by cutting Chinaman and Old Boy from the game. Those two would have made Dead Cell feel much more complete, like Foxhound from the first game.
Redbird yeah but if China man was made there would be no vamp and if old boy was made the end and the boss would never be in mgs3
Fatman is my boyfriend
that line always gives me chills..... "about a 100 years ago"
There was ako
Chasing ghosts..
The idea back in MGS2 was the Patriots were just US government and other relevant parties (mass media, big business) creating an AI to ensure society moves along in a direction suitable to them, not a superhero comic book supervillain scheme by a British man, Ocelot, and their minions to enact the will (or not) of some lady. The twist with Philanthropy after the credits was supposed to be the AI testing them to see if they actually had a shot at deposing them.
i like how raiden does have his older gruff voice he has in mgr
Oh my go those Star Wars references during the Harrier fight... xD
Man, I think this really cleared up a lot of the pacing, but having Snake take some of Raiden's moments away is kinda dumb. Snake killing Solidus is just gratuitous fanboyism that keeps Raiden from getting closure. Is Snake so fond of patricide that he has to kill other people's dads for them?
+Rory Walker
And his own brothers.
Snake just fucking loves killing people's dads 😂😂
And his dad's body-doubles.
Arcade 1978 snake killed his whole family multiple times lol
Incase pls I'm trying to watch mgs here...
2:50:52
Solid Snake: "I'd rather be a mistake... than be the one who makes them" strong words from the legendary mercenary
Solid snake is a mercenary?
@@melvinjansen2338yes he is, Solid Snake became a mercenary after the Outer Heaven uprising in 95. He has a military experience in the US Army Special Forces aka the Green Berets
@@hamadhumaid1984 Thanks for the reply. I knew about Special forces and Green Berrets but damn
@@melvinjansen2338you're welcome when they called Snake "Dog of War" it does confirms my suspicions that Snake is a mercenary, which does make a perfect sense
@@hamadhumaid1984 Runs in the familly i guess
I don't like Snake beating Solidus instead of Raiden. But DAMN, the idea of the last codec call being a kind of dream sequence sounds really cool, at least in a non interactive medium. I wish they could show the entire conversation like this, though it may be to much.
People are saying they prefer Raiden's VA in this more than in the game, but I think his whiny voice suits him a little more (especially for the first parts of the game)
In contrast to Snake, he genuinely acted and spoke like a green bean on his first field mission who was pissed things weren't going his way, that his girlfriend was constantly bothering him about "DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT TOMORROW IS JACK??!!" and that his commanding officer was obviously keeping serious intel from him when it could have him killed.
Also sad they didn't include the deathly embarrassing moments where Raiden just points his gun at everyone and Snake tells him to chill the fuck out.
Agree completely. Hideo Kojima made the game a bunch of conspiracy theories wrapped up in a nutshell on purpose because people completely missed the messages the first game had to offer and only cared about the "cool" things the gameplay implemented.
Raidans noob
I guess you haven't listened to Metal Gear Solid 2 in japanese. Raiden has no whiny voice or anything near that. His voice sounds of a soldier who has seen battle but doesn't know it.
youtu. be/ cq6GNbalhnk ?t=12312 and check to this video 1:12:23 big difference
@@ae86takumi damn bro never realized how manly Raiden's Japanese voice is, I like it.
@@ae86takumi oh, then that makes the Japanese version a little worse.
Raiden's contrating voice and attitude in relation to Snake is more palpable in the American version.
My only problem with this is the fact that not only does Snake kill Solidus, denying Raiden his closure, but he also went against his own character; Snake's not a big fan of blades, so why does he use one here?
I admit, both graphic novels (referring to MGS1 and 2) are completely different from the games, but I also think they're pretty good. The reason I think they're good is because I see them as digital graphic novels, not adaptations of the Metal Gear canon.
I see it as shaving off details to focus on the main story. In essence, this is a movie adaptation with comic panels in the place of video.
@@cyan.6399 that sounds pretty shitty
In 2013 Kojima stated that the graphic novels are modern takes of MGS1 and MGS2, they can be used as canon alternate interpretations of the story. Like how in MGS4 he has both MGS1 and Twin Snakes as canon.
If you ask me, I think fortune should've seen it coming as supposed to what ocelot was up to. Sure she accused solid snake for killing her dad, but he wasn't the murderer that killed her father, it was really revolver ocelot that killed him and Fortune's husband too. So I guess revolver ocelot being the REAL murderer of Fortune's husband and father makes a lot of sense to me.
@@GeneFOX70 What's also interesting is that the MGS1 movie has Snake leave Shadow Moses with both Otacon and Meryl, which makes more sense with MGS4 than with any of the original endings in MGS1 and Twin Snakes.
MGS2 also restores some of the deleted scenes that were originally removed from the game after 9/11, including a cameo from Karen Hojo from Policenauts.
The solidus call to raiden at the beginning just gave away toomuch scare
That's because this is probably meant to be an easier way to digest the story. It's radically different from what actually happens in the game. It's different in a lot of big ways
1:51:55 Alright that was handled in such a badass way.
They gave both characters a purpose.
I always found it EXTREMELY unsettling how you can call Snake when Vamp is holding Emma hostage and he says and does literally nothing.
I think David Hayter did much better on the voice in this comic than the first comic...also Snake is Batman. It was cool seeing the Ocelot/Liquid conversations and the Sorrow was a nice touch too. I think overall it was "Okay"; story changes still kind of irk me, but it's not so bad if you think of this as its OWN series. I just hope people don't watch these thinking they're the official stories.
I find this story to make far more sense then mgs2 did on it's own. It fills in the blanks. And snake does shit. Which you know, he didn't in mgs2. Better then game imo.
Dylan Smith
lmao true, a lot more is seen behind the scenes but at the same time there were some things I liked better i the game than in the comic.
I know alot of people loved the game as it was but I had seething hatred for parts of it (Raiden whining) (Snake doing nothing) (No scene transitions at the end. Hey im underwater.. now its raining, now i'm in the city on a roof..) I also completely adored parts of it that are missing. I think as a supplement to the game, it works.
@@dylansmith5161 6 years late to the thread but I just wanted to say if you put this graphic novel and the game together it makes for a pretty cohesive storyline
It's a good introduction to the story for beginners. However, as MGS veterans that we are, it would be a good idea to also help all newbies into it
Oh cool, Raiden's suit is known as the Skull Suit.
*Plays MGSV*
................Holy continuity, Batman
+Trevor Tiger I KNOW!
It's called the parasite suit in MGSV ;)
Evan O Quigley
Basically the same thing
The Unit in MGSV is known as the Skulls
Uh wasn't it always called the skull suit? Highly doubt I has anything to do with The Skulls.
Damn Stillman's death here was even more tragic.
+parag3247 Olga's was to.
am i the only one here who loved Raiden in the mgs2 game? :c
+WasserLemone I Do
ME.
took me awhile to appreciate him for what he was, at least in-game.
Me? Another person against the unexpected protagonist bullies.
Don't hate the Lightning Transformed, b***hes.
Nope, he sounded like an actual human being and what his thoughts and feelings on a mission like that would be, rather than "I'm such a badass who cares about absolutely fucking nothing" Solid Snake who was actually based off a movie character.
What the? Snake killing Solidus is bullshit! Why did they do that? And you were doing so well Graphic Novel! I wasn't even minding that I could barely tell one person apart from another
Could be the real story. The game was all about subjective realities for all we know when we played the game it could of been a simulation of the incident we played as a raiden? Not saying it's true but it can fit the story
@@himynameis3664 In 2013 Kojima stated that the graphic novels are modern takes of MGS1 and MGS2, they can be used as canon interpretations of the story. Like how in MGS4 he has both MGS1 and Twin Snakes as canon.
Uh, nope. Raiden killing Solidus was bullshit. I love how some people say "Snake just swooped in with unexplained sword mastery" when in fact it was already known that Snake was good with all kinds of weapons and in fact Raiden's sword prowess was never canonically explained. GG ez.
@@mrreyes5004 Raiden said he learned from watching movies.
@@mrreyes5004 Solidus says that he taught Jack everything he knew which probably included skill with a sword. Snake on the other hand even says himself "I'm not a big fan of blades" which kind of implies he doesn't like to use them which in turn means he wouldn't be as good as somebody who has been practicing for years like Solidus or Raiden who was taught everything by Solidus. Raiden was also good with knives during the Liberian civil war and I assume some of this would translate over to the HF Katana along with watching movies like the other guy mentioned.
1:20:35 For those of you who doesn't know, the voice of Colonel Sergei Gurlukovich is Earl Boen who played the role of Dr. Peter Silberman in The Terminator series along with The former Governor of California, WWE Hall of Famer, the 7-time Mr. Olympia, 4-time Mr. Universe and Hollywood legend Arnold Schwarzenegger
This is pretty much if Hollywood made this a movie
That's what I was thinking,If they ever made of movie version of Metal Gear Solid they would make it more like the graphic novels.Not that I'm looking forward to a Metal Gear Solid film because they always make films different from video games.Take Silent Hill,Blood Rayne and Prince of Persia for example.
@@TheGothprincess2 ha I loved that Silent Hill film. It was so shitty compared to SH, but it was a fun shit show
@@TheGothprincess2 I’m from the future, & I’ve got some bad news...
I'm sad Fatman is not saying "Laugh and grow fat" before dying.
I just LOVE how Fatman talks and sounds like Jim Sterling.
just pounding it
fuck you're so right... i deal in chungus
MrSpecter91 Hello you dummy C4s that need to be frozen. Fatman here and this is the Big Shell Incident.
Wow... Raiden is really awesome in this verson of MGS2.
There's something I actually really love about the fact that this exists and that's that as an interpretation of the events of mgs2 this still works, think about comic book movies, if they just 1:1 scale copied shit from the comics there would be no point to their existence, this comic works as a good retelling of the mgs2 story
Furthermore, there's actually good reasons why this could actually be a true canonical telling of the story when you consider that one of the largest themes in mgs2 is about "reality" what we played in mgs2 might not be accurate at all, for all we know we played a nameless foxhound soldier playing a simulation of the simulation that raiden went through. Simulation inception. No matter how you tell the story of mgs2 it's still always canon and yet not canon at the same time and that's fucking beautiful.
Maybe raiden killed solidus, maybe he didn't, maybe he was a whiny little bitch, maybe he was a badass, who the fuck knows or cares? It's a Schrödinger's cat, in the sense that any outcome is both true and false simultaneously.
Comic movies suck
Well spoken man!!! That's why I don't really care what people think of The Twin Snakes. Sure it doesn't seem realistic that Snake would backflip off a missile, but the cutscenes are dope enough to keep me watching and they make me feel like I'm controlling a genetically modified super solider, cloned from the greatest warrior of the 20th century. In that context, Solid Snake is a goddamn badass in any game.
So Liquid really did possess Ocelot in MGS2. Glad we've cleared that up.
12:05 is a reference to Policenauts. The news music is directly from the 3DO remastered version, which was re-used in the PS1 version as well. Karen Hojo is a prominent character in the game, and brings everything full circle; as Meryl originally was part of the Vice Unit on Beyond Coast where Policenauts takes place. Kojima liked her and made her part of the Fox Unit.
I knew about Meryl in Policenauts, but I never played or watched it, so I didn't know that Karen Hojo was a pre-existing character, too! Thanks for sharing that!
raiden and stillman in a stoner buddy comedy, with similar shit happening. written by seth rogen
I love how ocelot Laughs when everything gets serious. Man really played everyone.
This is really GOOD! It gives another alternate take to the game, and explains certain cut scenes that seemed to make 0 sense at all (Solidus choke sequence).
Little did solidus know, jack would actually become a metal gear killing ninja who doesn't even use stealth
Ok, this is gonna be a hot take
As someone who loves MGS2 game to death, my opinion with this graphic novel is a bit mixed. In one hand, i do appreciate some of the changes like Solid Snake having more screentime which is always appreciated since Snake is my favourite character in the series and David Hayter will always be Snake to me and perfectly nails that performance, not mention having one of the best lines of all MGS "Fine with me. I'd rather be a mistake than be the one that causes them. Also i do love some of the changes like Colonel complaining about Raiden and Stillman not doing their roles from the games was kinda funny and clever. I also like that Stillman and Fatman had lot more interaction with each other and we finally got to see what happened between Snake and Olga. Also, the bit with Ocelot hallucinating about Liquid and Sorrow was pretty good, although bit tacked on. Voice acting in general is top notch.
Changes that i was bit mixed upon was the scenes where Snake basically replaces Raiden's scenes, although i kinda like Snake vs. Vamp fight, even though Raiden and Vamp are more sworn enemies from the games. Although i appreciate them giving Snake more to do than in the game, it was sadly at expense on Raiden's character. Also Rose is not nearly as enough in this novel, but i can sort of understand that because people find her annoying in the game.
Oh, speaking of the changes i didn't like was removal of Otacon and Emma's dark family history and Emma barely having a character to her than she had in the game. And when she died in the novel, i just kept shrugging my shoulders because i barely knew this character. Granted, Emma wasn't super deep character in the game version, but at least there we learned about her family history, the trauma of almost drowning and her interaction with Raiden and her Otacon. Even though she said she hated him for abandoning him, she still missed him deep down after all these years. It's quite sad. Look, i'm not expecting 1:1 copy of the original game, but i expected the changes improve upon the narrative than being inferior to the ones in the game. Another change i didn't really like Raiden's character and him being nerfed in the graphic novel. Raiden seems bit too aggressive to me compared to how he was in the games. I kinda liked Raiden being bit of a dork, but with darker side in MGS2. One of the reasons why i like Cloud from original Final Fantasy 7. People call out Raiden being a whiny bitch from MGS2, but i don't think its warranted. For the most of the time it was justified, when he was constantly kept out of loop and having literal identity crisis and seeing all crazy shit. It also annoys me how Raiden felt kinda nerfed during this novel. Sure, Raiden is not legend like Snake, but he can handle on his own. He is not mere rookie as he spent his childhood as a child soldier and had impressive kill count. And lastly, i hate the change of Snake killing Solidus instead of Raiden. As some have said, it feels like fanboyism and pandering at worst even if i love Snake's character, but Snake hardly had any interactions or encounters with Solidus, so it feels really forced to have Snake have final duel with Solidus. Solidus's defeat by Raiden had much more meaning and they both share dark history. Overall this wasn't great, but somewhat decent Graphic Novel. I still think MGS1 novel was bit better in comparison.
The bad guy was actually the good guy. Damn the patriots :o
therosewebbb ..pretty much, solid snake is really a bad guy without him knowing it. the one time he did something agiest the patriots is when the other side used him. that the funny thing about it all.
+therosewebbb I'd hardly call Solidus a good guy. Yeah, his intentions were good, but his methods would have involved the deaths of millions of people.
+foxhound6364 One of those for the greater good situations. In his eyes anyway.
+foxhound6364 how so? wasnt Solidus planning to blow up a bomb high above NYC and cause and emp blackout?
A.J. Patterson Not only would the bomb itself kill people, just think of all of the deaths a complete blackout of one of the most populated cities in the world. Tens of thousands of people in hospitals would die. People would not be able to get emergency transport, tens of thousands would die in traffic, etc.
"You ruined my life!" A true father and son moment.
R.I.P. Metal Gear Solid. It died along with KONAMI
This novel came out before konami jumped the gekko.
Coming on October 2023, Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol.1 the games are
Metal Gear Solid ((Original))
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
It's coming on PS5, Nintendo Switch, Xbox Series X and Series S and Microsoft Windows
I'm sorry, but replacing Raiden with Snake in so many scenes is dumb fanservice and defeats the entire purpose of MGS2's actual story.
+TheAshOfOurFriends im sorry but replacing snake with raiden in so many scenes is what made it much better then the actual game call me a solid snake fanboy if you want i dont care but raiden was a terrible character i dont remind replacing snake in mgs 2 but kojima could have replaced him with someone much better then raiden. in mgs 3 we played as big boss and its one of the best games ever made so it has nothing to do with replacing solid snake the problem was that raiden was just a really bad character.
...shhhh
+TheAshOfOurFriends WAIT TILL YOU PLAY MGSV
Hodgy
Been playing it. I actually like it a lot...but I definitely do wish Kaz would STFU and Snake would talk more.
TheAshOfOurFriends Your opinion will change once you beat the game. I won't spoil but i can't believe what kojima did. Unforgivable
30:10 that is one respectable navy seal
1:40:45
Wait a minute, this isn't right.
They really took some liberties by adding Snake into scenarios he wasn't originally in.
I like it especially the alternate cutscenes and dialogs
If this is any hint as to what we will see for the cinematic adaptations, I'm in, baby. I'm all in. After watching MGS 1 and 2 Graphic Novels, I am convinced that these can these stories can be cut to 2-3 hours and make excellent films, on par with The Dark Knight, Captain America 2, and other blockbuster comic book titles. It may not make as much money, but it will probably make Matrix money.
My hope is they base the MGS film on the previous digital graphic novel, and the second on this graphic novel, perhaps pacing the story a bit more and splitting it into two parts. The film series would conclude Solid Snake's story with the third film, Guns of the Patriots This could allow for the actor, after four films, to then transfer the lead to another actor to play Big Boss. Big Boss would then continue the film series with another trilogy, Snake Eater and Phantom Limbs (2 parts). It would have the familiar scent of Marvel.
Thanks for posting it!
I already knew of the MG universe and played MGS3 Snake Eater, but this makes me want to go play through every pixel of every MG game and read through every wiki and article about the universe. This was AWESOME!
Why is Fortune white lmao
We CAN, because we have no other choice
44:10 Why doesn't the M9 shoot that fast lol
Seriously, i thought that because of the tranquilizer conversion, the slider is suppose to be locked, forcing it to be cocked by hand.
I think that's the same M9 Bretta that used in Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, that M9 Bretta that used in the Tanker and the Big Shell is modified, you gotta give credit to Italians because that gun is Italian made
2:50:20 "No more child abuse. Time to deal with a grown-up for a change."
Fuuuuck, that's a good line. I am so glad that they gave Snake a bigger role in this. MGS2 was a great game, but I think it would have worked better if you played as Raiden and Snake throughout the game.
honestly this comic is pretty good.... up until Snake kill Solidus instead of Raiden that was Bullshit and I have no idea why they changed it. like others said it feels pandering because people didn't like that Snake was sidelined in this game, even to the point where they outright replace some of Raiden's moments for Snake
Does anyone know the song that plays starting at 2:43:15? I've never heard it on the Solid 2 soundtrack, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Some of the DGN music is original. I inferred this from the fact that some of the music you can download in MGS4 is labelled specifically as coming from the MGS2 DGN
Awesum Brando
Interesting, and would you specifically need MGS4 to listen to the music, or is it available elsewhere? It's okay if you don't know, this stuff can be hard to track down.
"An anti-metal gear metal gear!" Fucking wat?
LOL my reaction exactly.
is this mostly mgs2 music? where can I get all this ambient music does anyone know the song names?
32:59 Raiden " Wait, I here something......oh no the jazz music! It only means one thing."
This was an awesome audiobook. For me it's great to see snake have more screen time in the story of MGS2.
I like the different prospective plus during the Raiden vs Fatman fight we see a little ripper come out
I don't remember raiden being this ugly
I don't really remember Fortune being sometimes white, sometimes black and sometimes even asian!
Also making Raiden a badass and making snake kill Solidus completely misses the point of MGS2
But yeah, fanservice
Moonman I agree. Snake killing Solidus instead of Raiden kinda ruins his entire character arc. Since he's no longer the one who killed Solidus he no longer has any closure.
Raiden's voice on this graphic novel sounded too much MGR Normal Raiden voice
Nanoha Takamachi that's because Quinton Flynn didn't have as much experience with the character in the actual game.
For real. Raiden just comes off like Axel from Kingdom Hearts. I must admit I loved hearing the original cast (sadly minus Rose) one last time, and the extended stuff with Fatman was cool, but the comic completely missed the point of the original game. Comparing the two would take like 79 paragraphs, but, tl;dr, it's MGS2 in name only.
3 years later. Its from Snake Tales, which are the true sidestories of the VR missions. Snake actually killed Solidus
That moment Hiimdaisy's silly web-comic parody is more accurate to the game than the official graphic novel
As if that's a good thing? This comic serves to at least try to improve the original story at parts (Minus the kill steal Snake gives Raiden at the end). Raiden slipping into his "Jack the Ripper" persona at points, the Solidus foreshadowing, etc all added to this adaptation in really neat ways.
The parody comic was just that, a parody. It wouldn't have been a particularly good one if the author just made up things to complain about.
I personally like this alot! The game is literally my favorite of all time so the stuff they added in pissed me off. Expect for Fat mans character being fleshed out
I love that voice actors got use new dialogue.. It becomes its own animal..
holy crap, this is a thing? I've never heard of this!
Awesome outro!
Even though it’s a bit different from the actual game, i wish Raider could have gotten his revenge on Solidus. I still enjoyed it. This was well written.
Not to criticise, but David Hayter's voice does sound a bit different in the comic novel version here, from the original video game. Still, excellent story. Raiden sounds a little bit different, too. A little. The one thing I preferred about THIS version over the original is where Snake says at the end, "I'd rather be a mistake, than be the one who makes them."
Hey, not for nothing, I wonder how one gets into voice acting. THESE voice actors did a great job, I thought. And I hear it's a great job to have, but that it's not as easy to achieve as it sounds. A part of me always wanted to do voice acting because of the video game from 2001.
Where was THIS Raiden in the game?
RIGHT!?
I read somewhere that Kojima made people play as Raiden as a little dig at all those fans who fantasised about being Snake while ignoring all the trauma and neuroses that all those guys got from being at war for so long. The whiny Raiden we see in the game IS the whiny us complaining when the fantasy gets shattered and is duly and often humiliated for it.
raiden has been a veteran since like 6 hes hardly a pussy
gwarfandoug107 tell that to Raiden lol
IKR. this made me actually like raiden again
Damn, I really liked a lot of how they did the first game, but they went and made just about every bad decision possible when adapting this one.
I like how this addresses story not seen in the game. Patriots telling Fatman to attack Raiden, Snake seeing Olga etc. It may take a different spin in some parts, but it elaborates on parts of the original story too. Johnson inputting the code, relating to Solidus about the Patriots control of them as president. Good stuff. Although it doesnt pack any of the quality or emotion the original scenes in the game have.
I actually listened to this in the office like an audiobook while I worked. Made my afternoon fly by.
I've wondered if the original plan for MGS4 was to have Liquid really possess Ocelot. This video offers proof to that since nowhere in the games does the old cowboy know about his parentage but I can easily see Liquid knowing about them.
I like how it's the original voice actors in this visual novel
The MGS2 video game is still the definitive version of this story, for many reasons, but its dialogue is incredibly long-winded and meandering. I think the Digital Graphic Novel made a valiant effort at making the dialogue more concise and to-the-point.
I only recently found out David Hayter is a director. I don't know how I missed it because he has done so much work on so many things I've seen
In 2013 Kojima stated that the graphic novels are modern takes of MGS1 and MGS2, they can be used as canon alternate interpretations of the story. Like how in MGS4 he has both MGS1 and Twin Snakes as canon.
@@GeneFOX70 "modern" is definitely the right word for it lol
lol i love how "The End" in the last bit is in green
I'd really love to see a Snake Eater and Guns of the Patriots version of this.
Drawing A guns of the patriots digital graphic novel would break someone wrist cus of how God damm long it is.
@@izaakdamon1979imagine the length, straight up more than half a day
Loved the intensity of 1:08:43-1:11:23
Why does Raiden sound so more badass in this?
The comic probably was dubbed some time after MGS2, and Quentin Flynn was starting to get more comfortable with his new Raiden voice, similar to how David Hayter's Snake voice got better over the course of the series. But that's just a theory
A GAME THEORY!
Too bad there is no comic version of MGS3 & MGS4
Thank God there is no comic version of MGS3/4
Can you imagine attempting to re-write the plot of MGS4 into novel form?
J.G. MGS4’s plot isn’t as convoluted as its 3 previous episodes. It’s feasible.
And in fact somebody did just that. You never read the Guns Of The Patriots novelization by Project Itoh?
Thank god not. Just imagine what It would look like if they seriously tried to write off the MGS4 ending.
“Ocelot, I’d like you to kill a hostage, please.” How presidential...
Regardless of Kiefer Sutherland's commendable performance as Big Boss, there is, and only will be, ONE true Snake (Solid Snake and Big Boss, specifically): DAVID HAYTER!
He was a decoy
@@ryanbarrie9143 I'm late to the party in responding by now, but still: we had no idea at the time!
1:14:56 why does the gun sound like that wheres the BRRRRRRRT?
I was loved the art style of these
Why is Fortune's gun going rapid fire shooting ammo and using fully charged shots ?
24:16 what music plays there?
Are there other things like this?
Books or graphic novels read by multiple people
The art style was okay for me, but damn, the script. I'd have preferred an exact adaptation, so that even one that has not played the game can understand what is going on. Completely skipping Olga's intro/fight was an immediate red flag to me that liberties were taken with this, and I usually hate it when that happens. Pacing seems to be an issue too. Cutting a rant short, if the story is going to be different, don't call it Metal Gear Solid 2 Digital Graphic Novel. Give it it's own name so people will know there are differences between this and the actual game script.
SoulConstruct it’s in 42:10
@@zerohunter01 lol youre stupid
This had it's cool moments that would've made the original game better. But others should've been left in that didn't mess with the continuity for fan service.
is there a version like this of mgs3 or 4 ????
I don't get why people are complaining about this, in my opinion this is basically just the same story but told differently, an interpretation. Would we really watch this if we already played MGS 2 and know what was going to happen? They made it different so we would watch it and see the difference
Idk I watched it thinking it would be the same, because of that nifty art style
Nineth Lion its much better than the game
Did I miss it or is “Scissors 61” not in this?
22:20 How does Vamp know snakes scent? I thought they never met?
Considering that Solid Snake and Solidus Snake are clones of Big Boss, they must share the same scent, and Vamp kinda figured it out on his own.
[Soory for the bad language] Am I missing something from the game if i watch the novel , the game is like 5h but the novel is 3h sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo?
Wow , the dialogue is so different !!!!!
It's so funny sometimes lol
i dont get the comment of "if they didnt change the story, why would they even make it?", when the very obvious answer is that a new medium could bring new depth to the characters, simplify cutscene dialogue, flesh out story beats
none of that requires transforming raiden and then just tossing him aside in favor of snake anyways, mgs2 is a perfectly fine story that deserves a better adaptation
Is some of this missing at the beginning?
1:58:44 that’s sweet of solidus giving raiden a knife to kill people for his birthday
Just out of curiosity why is this story different from the MGS2 game story? was this an original draft or something?
Awesome! Who else felt Rising Raiden in this? Hell of a lot cooler I'd say.
2:51:24 Patriot AI call
I love the voice acting, really sounds improved.
But I think Hayter Snake really regressed. I think his best work was MGS1 and 2. The raspier he got, the worse he got. Real bummer.
Honestly, I think the exact opposite. XD
how comes there is not a digital graphic novel for snake water and the phantom pain?
Where was the sorrow cameo?
2:48:46 what music plays there?
19:11 This line would've fit a lot better if Raiden wasn't so ugly in this version